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authority_n of_o the_o church_n the_o conference_n scripture_n express_o say_v that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n the_o same_o say_v catholics_n protestant_n express_o say_v that_o the_o church_n do_v not_o sustain_v or_o conserve_v the_o truth_n that_o faith_n rely_v not_o upon_o her_o authority_n that_o truth_n do_v not_o rely_v upon_o her_o authority_n as_o a_o foundation_n no_o not_o in_o regard_n or_o respect_n of_o us._n the_o sum_n of_o this_o chapter_n of_o the_o church_n what_o have_v be_v repeat_v in_o this_o chapter_n do_v make_v manifest_a that_o protestant_n describe_v unto_o we_o a_o church_n quite_o different_a from_o that_o which_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o catholic_n propose_v for_o the_o scripture_n and_o catholik_o teach_v that_o the_o church_n be_v but_o one_o protestant_n say_v there_o be_v twoe_o church_n they_o say_v she_o contain_v both_o bad_a and_o reprobate_n that_o she_o endure_v for_o ever_o be_v always_o visible_a 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name_n and_o shall_v pray_v in_o this_o place_n thou_o shall_v hear_v in_o heaven_n in_o the_o firmament_n of_o thy_o habitation_n and_o shall_v do_v all_o thing_n for_o which_o the_o stranger_n shall_v invocate_v thou_o 2._o paralipoman_n 6._o vers_fw-la 21._o whosoever_o shall_v pray_v in_o this_o whosoever_o for_o whosoever_o place_n hear_v out_o of_o thy_o habitation_n that_o be_v from_o the_o heaven_n and_o be_v propitious_a matthew_n 21._o vers_fw-la 13._o it_o be_v write_v my_o house_n shall_v be_v call_v a_o house_n of_o prayer_n luc._n 2._o five_o 37._o who_o depart_v not_o from_o the_o temple_n by_o fasting_n anne_n for_o s._n anne_n and_o prayer_n serve_v night_n and_o day_n c._n 24._o v._n 53._o and_o they_o be_v always_o in_o the_o temple_n praise_v and_o bless_v god_n catholik_o express_o affirm_v cardin._n bellarm._n lib._n 3._o de_fw-mi santis_z cap._n 4._o the_o church_n of_o christian_n be_v right_o institute_v for_o to_o pray_v also_o private_a prayer_n protestant_n express_o deny_v tindal_n in_o fox_n act_n 1610._o pag._n 1138._o church_n be_v for_o preach_v only_o for_o preach_v only_o only_o and_o fox_n add_v this_o article_n contain_v nether_a error_n nor_o honesty_n vorstius_n in_o antibellarm_n p._n 327._o nether_a be_v this_o a_o lawful_a end_n prayer_n not_o for_o private_a prayer_n of_o church_n that_o the_o faithful_a pray_v privacy_n in_o they_o luther_n in_o festo_fw-la dedicat._n templi_fw-la fol._n 447._o the_o people_n which_o believe_v in_o christ_n be_v all_o just_a and_o subject_a to_o no_o law_n especial_o prayer_n not_o dedicate_v to_o prayer_n that_o pertain_v to_o ceremony_n of_o temple_n and_o therefore_o now_o among_o they_o there_o be_v no_o temple_n dedicate_v to_o prayer_n and_o hereupon_o protestant_n in_o confess_v heluet._n c._n 23._o bid_v they_o beware_v that_o they_o weary_a not_o the_o people_n with_o to_o long_a prayer_n and_o in_o confess_v argentinen_n cap._n 21._o they_o detest_v our_o long_a paier_n as_o also_o do_v caluin_n in_o matth._n 6._o ver_fw-la 7._o and_o final_o in_o their_o synod_n at_o dordrach_n art_n 46._o they_o define_v that_o public_a evening_n prayer_n be_v not_o to_o be_v bring_v in_o where_o they_o be_v not_o in_o use_n and_o to_o be_v take_v away_o where_o they_o be_v so_o well_o these_o man_n love_v prayer_n in_o church_n the_o conference_n scripture_n express_o say_v that_o god_n church_n be_v the_o house_n of_o prayer_n for_o all_o people_n a_o place_n of_o prayer_n where_o the_o stranger_n may_v make_v his_o prayer_n and_o be_v hear_v that_o anna_n night_n and_o day_n pray_v in_o the_o temple_n that_o the_o apostle_n be_v always_o in_o the_o temple_n praise_v god_n the_o same_o say_v catholics_n protestant_n express_o say_v that_o church_n be_v only_o for_o preach_v that_o be_v no_o lawful_a end_n of_o church_n to_o pray_v private_o in_o they_o that_o christian_n have_v no_o temple_n dedicate_v to_o prayer_n and_o forbid_v long_o and_o evening_n prayer_n in_o church_n art_fw-la ii_o whether_o church_n be_v to_o be_v adorn_v scripture_n express_o affirmeth._n exod._n 35._o be_v describe_v the_o wonderful_a adorn_v of_o the_o tabernacle_n adorn_v church_n be_v to_o be_v adorn_v make_v by_o god_n commandment_n and_o 3._o reg._n 6._o the_o most_o rich_a ornament_n of_o the_o temple_n make_v by_o solomon_n psalm_n 25._o v._n 8._o i_o have_v love_v the_o beauty_n of_o thy_o house_n marc._n 14._o v._n 15._o say_v to_o the_o master_n of_o the_o house_n that_o the_o master_n say_v where_o be_v my_o refectorie_n where_o i_o may_v eat_v my_o paske_n with_o my_o disciple_n and_o he_o will_v show_v you_o a_o great_a chamber_n adorn_v and_o there_o prepare_v for_o us._n catholik_o express_o affirm_v d._n stapleton_n in_o joan._n 12._o v._n 3._o sumptuous_a dâ—cking_v and_o honourable_a adorn_v when_o they_o be_v do_v in_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n and_o for_o his_o worship_n either_o in_o the_o adorn_v or_o magnifencie_n of_o church_n or_o in_o solemn_a administration_n of_o sacrament_n do_v please_v god_n protestant_n express_o deny_v perkins_n in_o problemate_fw-la c._n de_fw-fr ornatu_fw-la templorum_fw-la the_o error_n adorn_v not_o to_o be_v adorn_v of_o adorn_v temple_n begin_v to_o be_v strange_a in_o constantins_n time_n and_o the_o father_n they_o be_v carry_v away_o with_o the_o custom_n do_v exact_v the_o adorn_v of_o temple_n caluin_n in_o math._n 26._o v._n 11_o let_v we_o not_o devise_v sumptuous_a worship_n of_o god_n with_o the_o papist_n in_o joan._n 12._o v._n 6._o sure_o god_n care_v not_o for_o external_a pomp_n wherefore_o they_o be_v preposterous_a interpreter_n who_o out_o of_o christ_n answer_n do_v infer_v that_o costly_a and_o magnifical_a whorship_n do_v please_v god_n tigurini_fw-la apud_fw-la hospin_n part_n 2._o hist_o fol._n 24._o the_o ornament_n of_o church_n belong_v not_o to_o the_o true_a worship_n of_o god_n vorstius_n in_o antibellarm_n p._n 327._o it_o be_v not_o only_o superfluous_a but_o also_o vain_a and_o superstitious_a and_o in_o part_n ethnicall_a also_o and_o jewish_a to_o make_v great_a and_o unprofitable_a expense_n in_o adorn_v church_n as_o every_o where_o use_v to_o be_v do_v in_o popery_n for_o that_o theatrical_a bravery_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o simplicity_n of_o christian_a religion_n the_o conference_n scripture_n express_o teach_v that_o god_n himself_o comcommand_v the_o tabernacle_n to_o be_v adorn_v that_o solomon_n by_o his_o instinct_n adorn_v the_o temple_n that_o david_n love_v the_o beauty_n of_o god_n house_n that_o christ_n make_v choice_n of_o a_o great_a and_o adorn_v chamber_n wherein_o he_o shall_v celebrate_v the_o eucharist_n the_o same_o say_v catholics_n protestant_n express_o say_v that_o the_o adorn_v of_o church_n be_v a_o error_n superfluous_a vain_a superstitious_a ethnicall_a and_o judaical_a and_o contrary_a to_o christian_a religion_n that_o magnifical_a and_o costly_a worship_n please_v not_o god_n art_fw-la iii_o whether_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o put_v the_o image_n of_o angel_n or_o saint_n in_o church_n scripture_n express_o affirmeth._n exod._n 25._o v._o 18._o god_n thus_o command_v two_o cherubin_n temple_n image_n in_o the_o temple_n also_o thou_o shall_v make_v of_o beat_a gold_n on_o both_o side_n of_o the_o oracle_n and_o vers_fw-la 22._o and_o i_o will_v speak_v to_o thou_o over_o the_o propitiatory_a and_o from_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o two_o cherubin_n which_o shall_v be_v upon_o the_o ark_n of_o testimony_n all_o thing_n which_o i_o will_v command_v the_o child_n of_o israel_n by_o thou_o 3._o reg._n 6._o vers_fw-la 23._o and_o he_o solomon_n make_v in_o the_o oracle_n two_o cherub_n of_o olive_n tree_n of_o ten_o cubit_n in_o height_n and_o v._o 27._o and_o he_o put_v the_o cherub_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o inner_a temple_n catholik_o express_o affirm_v council_n of_o trent_n session_n 25._o c._n de_fw-fr inuocat_fw-la the_o image_n of_o christ_n and_o other_o saint_n
mouth_n math._n 3._o v._n 4._o and_o he_o s._n ihons_n meat_n be_v locust_n and_o wild_a baptiste_n and_o s._n john_n baptiste_n honey_n luc._n 1._o v._n 15._o and_o wine_n and_o sicer_n he_o shall_v not_o drink_v c._n 7._o ver_fw-la 33._o for_o john_n baptist_n come_v nether_a eat_a bread_n nor_o drink_a wine_n the_o like_a be_v say_v of_o the_o mother_n of_o samson_n judic_n 13_o v._o 4._o and_o of_o the_o rechabit_v hieremie_n 35._o rom._n 14._o v._n 21._o it_o be_v good_a not_o to_o eat_v flesh_n and_o not_o to_o drink_v wine_n good_a not_o to_o eat_v flesh_n or_o drink_v wine_n wine_n nor_o that_o wherein_o thy_o brother_n be_v offend_v or_o scandalize_v or_o weaken_v catholik_o express_o affirm_v c._n bellarm_n de_fw-fr bonis_fw-la operibus_fw-la in_o part_n l._n 2._o c._n 7._o if_o jonadab_n can_v for_o ever_o forbid_v his_o child_n and_o nephew_n wine_n and_o both_o his_o commandment_n and_o their_o obedience_n please_v god_n why_o can_v our_o mother_n the_o church_n forbid_v 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express_o affirm_v council_n of_o trent_n sess_n 25._o c._n 1._o the_o catholic_a church_n teach_v that_o the_o soul_n detain_v in_o purgatory_n be_v holpen_v by_o the_o suffrage_n of_o the_o faithful_a protestant_n express_o deny_v jewel_n art_n 18._o sect_n 3._o p._n 433._o this_o kind_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a superstition_n it_o be_v superstition_n be_v mere_a superstitious_a and_o utter_o without_o warrant_n of_o god_n word_n confessio_fw-la seotica_n generalis_fw-la we_o detest_v his_o pope_n prayer_n detestable_a detestable_a for_o the_o dead_a caluin_n epistola_fw-la 366._o that_o form_n of_o prayer_n god_n give_v the_o pray_v one_o may_v wish_v well_o to_o the_o dead_a but_o not_o pray_v dead_a a_o good_a and_o happy_a resurrection_n because_o it_o be_v not_o fit_v to_o the_o rule_n of_o good_a prayer_n be_v to_o be_v reject_v yet_o i_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o one_o may_v make_v such_o a_o wish_n brentius_n in_o dom._n 12._o post_fw-la trinit_fw-la albeit_o 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de_fw-fr de_fw-fr divite_fw-la &_o lazaro_n to_o 7._o f._n 268._o de_fw-la captivit_fw-la babylon_n f_o 72._o and_o count_v catharin_n f._n 151._o et_fw-la in_o hospin_n concordia_fw-la discor_fw-la f._n 225._o apologia_fw-la confess_v augustan_n c._n de_fw-fr vocabulis_fw-la missae_fw-la agenda_fw-la anglica_n apud_fw-la bucerum_fw-la p._n 427._o 449._o zuinglius_fw-la art_n 60._o vrbanus_n regius_n and_o other_o allow_v pray_v for_o the_o dead_a art_fw-la x._o whether_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o pray_v for_o that_o which_o god_n have_v not_o promise_v scripture_n express_o affirmeth._n math._n 26._o ver_fw-la 39_o christ_n thus_o pray_v my_o father_n if_o it_o be_v david_n christ_n pray_v for_o that_o which_o be_v not_o promise_v to_o he_o and_o s._n paul_n and_o abraham_n and_o david_n possible_a let_v this_o chalice_n pass_v from_o i_o 2._o cor._n 12._o vers_fw-la 8._o for_o the_o which_o thing_n thrice_o i_o beseech_v our_o lord_n that_o
all_o man_n because_o it_o be_v say_v 1._o tim._n 2._o v._n 6._o one_o mediator_n of_o god_n and_o man_n the_o man_n jesus_n christ_n they_o limit_v this_o to_o the_o elect_v faithful_a beza_n epist_n 28._o it_o be_v false_a that_o christ_n be_v mediator_n also_o of_o the_o infidel_n in_o like_a sort_n hunnius_n the_o justif_a pag._n 179._o restrain_v that_o saying_n hebr._n 5._o ver_fw-la 9_o he_o be_v make_v to_o all_o that_o obey_v he_o cause_n of_o eternal_a salvation_n to_o obedience_n in_o faith_n if_o we_o prove_v that_o unwritten_a tradition_n of_o faith_n be_v to_o be_v tradition_n touch_v tradition_n believe_v because_o s._n paul_n say_v without_o limitation_n 2._o thessaly_n 2._o ver_fw-la 15._o stand_v and_o hold_v the_o tradition_n which_o you_o have_v learn_v whether_o it_o be_v by_o word_n or_o by_o our_o epistle_n they_o limit_v this_o to_o only_a tradition_n of_o rite_n or_o ceremony_n whitaker_n contr._n 1._o q._n 6._o cap._n 10._o other_o protestant_n think_v that_o 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hill_n and_o all_o nation_n shall_v flow_v unto_o it_o et_fw-fr c._n 61._o ver_fw-la 9_o and_o they_o shall_v know_v their_o seed_n in_o the_o gentile_n and_o their_o bud_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o people_n and_o miche_n 4._o v._n 8._o and_o the_o remanent_fw-la of_o jacob_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o gentile_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o many_o people_n as_o a_o lion_n among_o the_o beast_n of_o the_o forest_n whitaker_n contr._n 2._o q._n 2._o c._n 2._o answer_v the_o prophet_n foretell_v that_o no_o kingdom_n shall_v be_v so_o glorious_a no_o city_n so_o ample_a no_o empire_n so_o large_a as_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o messiah_n but_o we_o never_o read_v that_o the_o lord_n have_v promise_v that_o this_o majesty_n and_o glory_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v constant_a and_o perpetual_a et_fw-la morton_n in_o apolog._n part_n 1._o l._n 1._o c._n 13._o the_o league_n be_v indeed_o perpetual_a but_o this_o so_o admirable_a success_n be_v not_o always_o so_o universal_a but_o in_o a_o manner_n peculiar_a to_o the_o age_n of_o the_o apostle_n if_o we_o prove_v that_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n be_v always_o visible_a because_o christ_n say_v of_o they_o math._n 5._o v._n 15._o a_o city_n can_v be_v hide_v situate_v upon_o a_o mountain_n whitaker_n loc_fw-la cit_fw-la answer_v albeit_o christ_n say_v that_o godly_a doctor_n and_o pastor_n shall_v not_o be_v obscure_a nor_o escape_v the_o sight_n of_o man_n yet_o he_o say_v not_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v always_o such_o doctor_n which_o may_v be_v as_o visible_a as_o mountain_n if_o we_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n of_o all_o truth_n of_o faith_n because_o s._n paul_n 1_o timoth._n 3._o for_o 15._o without_o any_o limitation_n call_v she_o the_o pillar_n and_o strength_n of_o truth_n whitake_v contr._n 2._o q._n 4._o c._n 2._o answer_v in_o this_o place_n be_v mean_v not_o simple_o all_o truth_n but_o only_o necessary_a truth_n and_o vorstius_n in_o antibel_n p._n 143._o the_o apostle_n speak_v not_o of_o every_o truth_n that_o howsoever_o pertain_v to_o religion_n but_o only_o of_o wholesome_a truth_n or_o which_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o that_o conditional_o also_o to_o wit_n so_o long_o as_o she_o shall_v remain_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n if_o we_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n be_v always_o infallible_a in_o faith_n because_o without_o limitation_n to_o any_o time_n she_o be_v call_v loc_n cit_fw-la the_o pillar_n and_o strength_n of_o truth_n p._n martyr_n in_o locis_fw-la clas_fw-la 4._o c._n 4._o §_o 21._o say_v i_o grant_v she_o be_v indeed_o the_o pillar_n of_o truth_n but_o not_o always_o but_o when_o she_o rely_v upon_o the_o word_n of_o god_n confessio_fw-la heluet._n c._n 17._o she_o err_v not_o as_o long_o as_o she_o rely_v upon_o the_o rock_n christ_n and_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n daneus_fw-la contr._n 4._o p._n 717._o the_o place_n of_o paul_n speak_v of_o the_o visible_a church_n which_o on_o earth_n be_v the_o keeper_n of_o heavenly_a doctrine_n so_o long_o as_o she_o be_v true_a bullinger_n dec_n 4._o serm._n 5._o the_o church_n err_v not_o so_o long_o as_o she_o hear_v the_o voice_n of_o her_o spouse_n and_o pastor_n herbrandus_fw-la in_o compend_v loc_fw-la de_fw-fr eccles_n she_o err_v not_o so_o long_o as_o she_o hould_v and_o follow_v the_o word_n of_o god_n of_o we_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v hear_v simple_o in_o all_o thing_n because_o our_o saviour_n without_o anielimitation_n say_v math._n 18._o v._n 19_o if_o he_o will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o as_o a_o ethnik_n and_o publican_n whitaker_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-la scriptura_fw-la c._n 13._o sect_n 1._o answer_v the_o son_n of_o god_n himself_o command_v to_o hear_v the_o voice_n of_o the_o church_n but_o not_o preach_v any_o thing_n but_o scripture_n herbrand_n loc_fw-la cit_fw-la say_v the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v hear_v as_o long_o as_o she_o preach_v heavenly_a and_o incorrupt_a doctrine_n moulins_n in_o his_o buckler_n p._n 84._o limitate_v this_o speech_n of_o christ_n to_o quarrel_n betwixt_o particular_a man_n and_o not_o to_o question_n of_o religion_n the_o like_a say_v feild_n l._n 4._o de_fw-fr eccles_n c._n 4._o and_o other_o if_o we_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n in_o teach_n can_v err_v because_o isaias_n say_v c._n 59_o v._n 21._o this_o be_v my_o covenant_n with_o they_o say_v our_o lord_n my_o spirit_n be_v in_o thou_o and_o my_o word_n which_o i_o have_v put_v in_o thy_o mouth_n shall_v not_o depart_v out_o of_o thy_o mouth_n and_o out_o of_o the_o mouth_n of_o thy_o seed_n and_o out_o of_o the_o mouth_n of_o thy_o seed_n seed_n say_v our_o lord_n from_o this_o present_a for_o ever_o whitaker_n libr._n 1._o de_fw-la scriptura_fw-la cap._n 11._o sect_n ult._n answer_v this_o promise_n be_v not_o make_v to_o the_o teach_a church_n but_o to_o the_o whole_a church_n that_o be_v to_o the_o elect_a 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