our aduersaries owne confessions the true and Orthodox Church did reiect those Apocryphall bookes which our Church refuseth which the Trent Councell allowes at this day for Canonicall And thus briefly I haue produced a Catalogue of ancient Fathers and moderne Writers in the Romane Church who haue witnessed with vs the same Canon of Scripture which wee professe at this day whereby I haue giuen you a taste of that challenge which God willing I purpose heereafter to make good in the principal points of our Religion that our Church and doctrine hath continued Visible in all ages euen to the dayes of Luther SECT VI. Our Aduersaries pretences from the authorities of Fathers and Councels to prooue the Apocryphall bookes Canonicall answered THe former Testimonies are so true and pregnant in our behalfe that our learned aduersaries are inforced to confesse that most of those Authours did reiect the bookes in question for Apocryphall To say nothing of the Trent Anathema layd vpon those reuerend Fathers and learned Doctors of the ancient and moderne Churches who reiected those bookes in all ages let vs weigh their chiefest reasons and arguments for defence of their cause and it will appeare there are no solid and certaine authorities to proue the Apocryphall books in question for canonicall Bell. lib. 1. de verbo Dei c. 12. To instance in particulars Bellarmine saith the booke of Iudith was held by Hierome for Canonicall and withall pretended this reason for it This booke hath a singular testimony from the famous and first generall Councell of Nice It is true that both contending parties subscribe to this first and best Councell of Nice but I pray where is that Canon to be found and sure I am there is no such testimony extant Asseruit esse ApocryphuÌ„ Salm. Com. in Hebr. disp 2. Acost lib 2. de Christo Reuel c. 13. Quod mihi dubituntis suspicionem subindieare videtur naÌ„ Nicena Synodus olim hunc libruÌ„ in Canonem redegerat cur annis 80 post non accenset eum Synodê° Laodicena cur Nazianzenus eius non meminit quid sibi vult quod idem c. Lind. Panopl lib. 3. cap 3. as is pretended by the Cardinall nay more Salmeron his fellow Iesuite protesteth Saint Hierome affirmed the booke of Iudith Apocryphall And Acosta the Iesuite professeth è Canone exemit hee exempted it out of the Canon and as touching the Councell of Nice their owne Lindanus proclaimeth that this assertion giues him great cause of doubting for if the Nicene Councell did anciently reckon the booke of Iudith in the Canon why did not the Councell of Laodicea reckon it why did not Nazianzene make mention of it what meant hee to say the Church at that time did reade the bookes of Iudith Tobie and the Maccabees but did not receiue them amongst the Canonicall Scriptures Againe looke vpon the Councell of Laodicea called in the yeare 364 there you shall finde the booke of Iudith Bin. Not. in Concil Rom sub Syluest by the testimony of Binius himselfe reiected for Apocryphall and this Councell is confirmed by the second Canon of the sixt Generall Councell of Trullo which the Fathers of that Councell would neuer haue done if the first Generall Councell of Nice had decreed the contrary I proceed to the examination of the chiefest ground and principall cause of their Trent Decree The third Councell of Carthage called in the time of Siricius Bishop of Rome about the yeere 399 Placuit vt praeter scripturas Canocas nihil in Ecclesiâ legatur sub nomine diuinarum scripturaruÌ„ sunt autem Canonicae Scripturae Tobias Iudith Hester Esdrae libri duo MachabeoruÌ„ libri duo Conc. Carth. 3. circa tempora Syriâ—ij Canone 47. touching the Apocryphall bookes makes this declaration It pleaseth vs that nothing be read in the Church besides the Canonicall Scriptures and there they publish for the Canonicall bookes Tobie Iudith Hester Esdras and the two bookes of Maccabees And to this Councell say the Romanists Saint Austen subscribed This testimony I confesse is extant in the 47. Canon of this Councell but giue mee leaue to tell you the Church of Rome doth not generally avowe that Canon of that Councell It is the confession of Cardinall Baronius Haud omnes Haudomnes Canones in hâc Synodo sanciti probantur sed diuersisaliis coÌ„ciliis Carthaginensibus vt inter alios iste quo sacroruÌ„ libroruÌ„ certus numerê° definitur Baron An. 397. nuÌ„ 46. Canones 50. quoruÌ„ tituli hîc assignaÌ„tur non omnes in hâc Synodo sed diuersisaliis coÌ„ciliis CarthagineÌ„sibê° sanciti probaÌ„tur inter alios 19.30 et 47. which last Canon is the CanoÌ„ in question Bin. in CoÌ„cil Carth. 3. c. Not all the Canons of this Councell are established but they are allowed in diuers other Councels of Carthage as namely that Canon wherein the number of sacred bookes were defined And Binius the publisher of the Councells makes the like acknowledgment that the 50 Canons which were intituled to that Councell were not all confirmed by it but by other Councells of Carthage as namely the 47 Canon and that which argues suspition of a forged Canon the bookes of Maccabees which are inserted in the Latine copie of that Councell are not to bee found in all or any of the ancient Greeke copies or Manuscripts Hic Canon Carthaginensis Concilii extat in collectione CanonuÌ„ Cresconii Africani Episcopi nonduÌ„ edita sed ibi Machabee ruÌ„ libri non recensentur ne in omnibê° Gracis codicibus editis Mss Christ Iustellus obseru Not. in Cod. CanonuÌ„ Eccle. Africanae Bell. de Roman Pont. lib. 2. ca. 31. Quintum Bell. de CoÌ„cil author lib. 2. cap 8. Decimo Neither is this Councell of that authoritie as the Romanists themselues pretend for when our learned Protestants doe otherwise produce this Councell against the head of their Church Bellarmine makes answere This Prouinciall Councell ought not to bind the Bishop of Rome nor the Bishops of other Prouinces If wee oppose against it the Councell of Laodicea which decreed those bookes for Apocryphall Bellarmine makes answere The Councell of Carthage is of greater authoritie then that of Laodicea because it is later and because it was Nationall but the Councell of Laodicea was prouinciall In the one place when it seemingly makes for him hee termes it a Nationall Councell in the other when it plainely makes against him hee termes it Prouinciall But Oportet esse memorem Falsehood had need haue a good memory It is vsuall with Bellarmine with Canus with Costerus and the best learned Romanists to excuse Saint Hierome Saint Austen Saint Gregorie and many others which denied the Apocrypha for part of the diuine Canon with this generall Answere It was no sinne Bell de verbo Dei lib. 1. cap. 10. no heresie in them to reject those bookes because no Generall Councell in their dayes had decreed any thing touching them If therefore no Generall Councell had decreed
VIA DEVIA THE BY-WAY Mis-leading the weake and vnstable into dangerous paths of Error by colourable shewes of Apocryphall Scriptures vnwritten Traditions doubtfull Fathers ambiguous Councells and pretended Catholike Church Discouered By HVMFREY LYNDE Knight Scriptura Regula credendi certissima tutissimáque est Bell de Verb. Dei 40 1 cap 2. LONDON Printed by Aug. M. for ROB. MILBOVRNE and are to be sold at his Shop at the Grayhound in Pauls Churchyard 1630. TO THE INGENVOVS AND Moderat Romanists of this Kingdome H. L. Wisheth the knowledge of the Safe way that leadeth to eternall Happinesse CHristian is my name and Catholique is my Sirname the one I challenge from my Baptisme in Christs Church the other from my profession of All sauing Truâ—th in Gods Word If you question this my right or claime I will produce my Euidence out of ancient and vndoubted Records and ioyne Issue with you vpon the marks of your owne Church Antiquitie Vniuersalitie Succession and if I prooue not the Faith which I professe to bee Ancient and Catholike I will neither refuse the name nor punishment due to Heresie As touching the Visibilitie of our Church I haue answered your Iesuites Challenge by the Title of Via Tuta the Safe Way wherein I haue appealed to the best learned of your owne side both for the Antiquitie of our Religion and the Noueltie of your owne If you require further satisfaction in this point read peruse the Articles of our Church tell me without a preiudicate opinion if our Church was not Ancient Visible long before Luthers dayes Our 22. Bookes of Canonicall Scripture were they not published and receiued in all ages before Luther Our three Creeds The Apostles Nicene Athanatius Creed were they not anciently beleeued and generally receiued in the Church before Luther Our Liturgie and Book of Common Prayer was it not the same for substaÌ„ce which was taught and professed in the bosome of the Romane Church before Luther Our two Sacraments of Baptisme and the Lords Supper were they not instituted by Christ were they not published and receiued in all ages before Luther These are the Foundations of our Church and all these in despight of malice it selfe must bee acknowledged by our aduersaries that they are taught by vs and were vniuersally receiued long before Luthers dayes And as touching the particular tenets of our Church opposite to your Trent Creed our spirituall receiuing of Christ by faith onely whereby wee are made truely and really partakers of Christs body crucified is agreeable to all Christian Confessions and taught by all antiquitie before Luther Our publique Communion of Priest with people had Antiquitie and Vniuersalitie in the best and first ages Bel. de Missa lib. 2. ca. 9 10. by Bellarmines confession long before Luther Our Prayer and Seruice in a knowne tongue was publiquely deliuered and anciently taught by Bellarmines confession long before Luther Bell de verbo Dei lib. 2. cap. 16. Our Communion in both kinds was instituted by Christ and continued in the Primitiue Churches by Bellarmines confession long before Luther Idem de Euch. lib. 4 cap. 24. Nay more the Psalmes of Dauid which vvee sing and some of you blasphemously tearme Geneua Iigges were in ancient vse amongst the common people long before Luther In Bethlem where Christ vvas borne turne whither thou wilt saith Hierome the Husbandman holding his Plough Hier. in 1. Epist 17. ad Marcel continually singeth Alleluia the Mower when hee sweateth and is wearie refresheth himselfe with Psalmes the Gardiner as hee dresseth his Vine with his hooke hath some piece of Dauid in his mouth These I say are the chiefe principles of our Religion these vvee holde vnder the Charter of the great King and all these by the testimonies of our aduersaries themselues were publikely known and generally practised long before Luthers dayes Doe you looke for an outvvard Forme of a glorious and Visible Church in obscure ages Doe you looke for A Citie vpon a Hill in the darke night of errour and ignorance I appeale to your ovvn consciences to vvhat purpose were the prophecies of Christ and his Apostles that the Church should flie into the wildernesse and lie hid there that Faith should not bee found on the earth that the time will come when they will not suffer wholsome doctrine but shal be giuen to Legends fables that some should giue heed to the spirit of errour and doctrine of Deuills that after a thousand yeeres Sathan should be let loose and deceiue the foure quarters of the earth were all these things foretold that it might bee fulfilled what was spoken are the thousand yeeres long since expired and yet shall vve thinke that none of these prophesies are accomplished Admit the man of Sinne bee not reuealed yet the Mysterie of iniquitie began to vvorke in the Apostles time and the Euangelist tells vs the tares vvhich the thiefe fovved in the night had almost choaked the good corne and lest there might be some expectation of a great multitude which shold assume the Title of an eminent and glorious Church our Sauiour himselfe by way of preuention cals his Church by the name of A little flocke Luke 12.32 as if a small number were the ancient Character of the true Church The malignaÌ„t Church hath many heretikes and hypocrites which indeed make a great noyse for a visible Church when as those wicked persons saith Austen although they seeme to bee in the Church August de Bapt. lib. 6. cap. 3. yet they appertaine not to the true Church That many are called is the Church visible that few are chosen is the Church inuisible Neither doe vvee hereby make two churches when we consider this Church after a two fold maner Bellar. de Eccles li. 3. cap. 15. In the Church something is beleeued some thing is seene we see that company of men which is the Church but that this coÌ„pany is the true Church we do not see it but beleeue it this is Bellarmines confession this is ours Againe looke back and take a briefe Suruey of the Church in seuerall ages It began with two in Paradise there remained in the flood but eight persons in that number there vvas an accursed Cham. In Sodome not ten persons nay scarce three righteous to be found there was but one Ioshua and Caleb of many thousands that entred the land of Canaan In the fiery trial but three children at the comming of Christ there was Simeon and Anna Ioseph and Mary Zacharie and Elizabeth and not many more knowne to bee sincere professours of Gods Trueth in the Church of Hierusalem In the Colledge of the Apostles there were but twelue and one was the sonne of perdition In the time of persecution for three hundred yeres after Christ Eusebius tels vs Euseb lib. 8 cap 2. the Church was ouerwhelmed to the ground and the Pastors of the Churches hid themselues heere
most of their erronious Doctrine vpon vnwritten Traditions and yet frequently alledge the written Word for them p. 144 Sect. 8. The most generall pretended Traditions of the Romane Church were vtterly vnknown to the Greeke Church and want Antiquitie Vniuersalitie and Succession the proper markes of true Traditions in the Roman Church p. 167 Sect. 9. The Scriptures are a certaine safe and euident direction to the right way of Saluation and consequently to ground Faith vpon vnwritten Traditions is an obscure vncertaine and dangerous By way p. 245 Sect. 10. Our Aduersaries make great boast of the Testimonies of the ancient Fathers in generall yet when they come to fifting particular poynts either by secret evasion they decline them or openly reiect them p. 280 Sect. 11. The most substantiall poynts of Romaine Faith and Doctrine as they are now taught and receiued in the Church of Rome were neuer taught by the Primitiue Church nor receiued by the ancient Fathers p. 307 Sect. 12. Saint Augustine in particular is much disparaged by the Romanists and for instance in many seuerall poynts of moment wherein hee professedly concurreth with vs is expressely reiected by them p. 335 Sect. 13. Saint Gregorie pretended to be the Founder of the Romane Religion in England by sending Austen the Monke for conversion of this nation in his vndoubted writings directly opposeth the Romish Faith in the maine poynts thereof p. 347 Sect. 14. Councels which are so highly extold and opposed against vs were neither called by lawfull authoritie or to the right ends as is confessed by the ingenuous Romanists p. 370 Sect. 15. Councells which our Aduersaries pretend as a chiefe Bulwark of their faith giue no support at all to the Romish Religion as it is proued by particular obiections made against seuerall Councels in all ages by the Romanists themselues p. 386 Sect. 16. The Councell of Trent which is the maine Pillar and last resolution of the Roman faith is of small or no credit at all because it was neither lawfully called nor free nor generall nor generally receiued by the Romanists themselues p. 420 Sect. 17. In the Roman Church which our aduersaries so highly extoll aboue the Scriptures there is neither safetie nor certaintie whether they vnderstand the Essentiall or Representatiue or the Virtuall or the Consistoriall Church p. 452 Sect. 18. The most common Plea of the Romanists drawne from the Infallibilitie Authoritie and Title of the Catholike Church is proued to bee false vaine and friuolous p. 468 Sect. 19. The Church which our Aduersaries so much magnifie among themselues is finally resolued into the Pope whom they make both the Husband and the Spouse the Head and the Body of the Church p. 496 Sect. 20. The Church is finally resolued into the Pope who wants both Personall and Doctrinall succession as appeares by seuerall instances and exceptions both in matters of Fact and matters of Faith p. 513 Sect. 21. The infallibilitie of the Popes Iudgement which is made the Rule of Faith to determine all Controuersies is not yet determined by the learned Romanistes amongst themselues p. 545 Sect. 22. The Church vpon which the learned Romanists ground their Faith is no other then the Pope and the Church vpon which the vnlearned Romanists doe relie is no other then their Parish Priest p. 572 Sect. 23. Eminent and perpetuall Visibilitie is no certaine Note of the true Church but the contrary rather as it is prooued by instances from Adam to Christ p. 592 Sect 24. The Latencie and obscuritie of the true Church is pâ—ooued by pregnant testimonies of such who complained of corruptions and abuses and withall decreed a Reformation in all ages from the time of Christ and his Apostles to the dayes of Luther p. 610 Sect. 25. The aforenamed corruptions and most remarkable declination of the Church of Rome in the later ages was foretold by Christ and his Apostles in the first Age. p. 666 Sect. 26. The Conclusion of this Treatise shewing in sundrie particulars the certaintie and safetie of the Protestant and the vncertaintie and danger of the Romish Way p. 675 VIA DEVIA THE BY-VVAY SECT I. The safest and onely infallible way to finde out the true Church is by the Scripture WHen the Donatists in the most flourishing times of Christian Religion arrogantly and presumptuously appropriated the Catholique and Vniuersall Church to their haereticall and particular faction St. Austen encountring them Quaestio est vbi sit Ecclesia quid ergo facturi sumus an inverbis nostris eaÌ„ qua situri an in verbis capitis sui Dom. nostri Iesu Christi Puto quod in illius potius verbis eam quaerere debemus quia veritas est nouit corpus suuÌ„ Aug. de vnit Eccles cap. 2. states the poynt of Controuersie in this maner The question is where the Church should bee what then shall we doe shall wee seeke it in our owne wordes or in the words of our Lord Iesus In my iudgement we ought rather to seeke the Church in his owne words for that he is the truth and knoweth his owne body You haue heard the question propounded and answered by the Oracle of that age Such is the difference at this day betwixt the Church of Rome and vs and I heartily wish wee might ioine issue with them vpon the like tearmes and both agree with one vnanimous consent to seeke the Church of God in the word of God then should wee be gathered as sheep to one sheep-fold and the weake in faith should be receiued not to doubtfull disputations but to the reading of the Scriptures and they that now question the Visibilitie of our Church before Luther would first examine the infallibilitie of their owne by the Touchstone of the Gospell and the rather because it is agreed on both sides that whatsoeuer Church professeth that faith and doctrine which Christ and his Apostles taught in the first age the same Church and doctrine hath continued more or lesse visible in all ages But to returne to the Donatists Cant. 1.7 When Christ in the Canticles demanded of his Spouse where she rested Meridie at Noone-day the Donatists concluded Christs question with their owne answere that the Church did rest Meridie and that was in the South from this ground excluded all other Churches but their owne in the South of Africk The Donatists claime was seemingly deriued from the authoritie of the Scriptures for Donatus and Austen heretique and Catholique both vrge the Scriptures but obserue the difference Saint Austen puts the whole issue of his cause vpon the Scripture the Donatists claimed their doctrine by the publique voyces of the Africans they assumed to themselues the title of the Catholike Church they magnified the Councels of their Bishops they gloried in their frequent though fained miracles these were the principall grounds of their Church Remotis ergo omnibus talibus Ecclesiam suaÌ„ demonstrant si possunt non in sermonibus rumoribus Afrorum
of people almost all the Apostolique Seas most of the Patriarchs seuen Vniuersall Councells the Syrian language wherein Christ spake the Greeke wherein the Scripture of the New Testament was written and withall a personall Succession euen from the Apostles themselues without interruption and that which is knowne to the meanest Grecian 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the words of Church of Bishop of Priest of Deacon of Baptisme of Eucharist of Christian are al deriued from the Greekes and proue that Religion came from them from whom those termes were borrowed This doctrine is so true that it inforced the Bishop of Bitonto to professe openly in the Councell of Trent Eia igitur Graecia Mater nostra cui id totuÌ„ debet quod habet Latina Ecclesia Conc. Trid. orat Episc Bitont It is our Mother Grecia vnto whom the Latine Church or the Church of Rome is beholding for all that euer she hath And thus much touching the foundation of the Greeke Church Now that we may the better discerne the Antiquitie of our Religion and the Noueltie of the Romane let vs examine the Tenets of the Greeke Church and by them wee shall discerne whether the Roman church hath continued visible in that doctrine which shee now teacheth and consequently whether their pretended Apostolike Traditions haue Antiquitie Vniuersalitie and Succession in all ages Matthias Illiricus being borne in Dalmatia not farre from the confines of Graecia and therefore may bee thought to be well acquainted with their orders tells vs The Churches of Grecia the Churches of Asia Macedonia Misia Valachia Russia Muscouia and Africa ioyned thereunto that is to say in a manner the whole world or at least the greater part thereof neuer granted the Popes Supremacie neuer allowed either Purgatorie or Priuate Masses or the Communion vnder one kind wee may adde to these Transubstantiation Prayer in an vnknowne tongue Forbidding of marriage to Priests and Popish Inuocation of Saints as it is now beleeued were vtterly vnknown to the Greeke Church and consequently want Antiquitie Vniuersalitie and Succession the proper markes of true Traditions in the Roman Church To examine them in order The Popes Supremacie is a Tradition Apostolicall and declared for an Article of Faith in the Romane Church yet this Tradition wants Antiquitie Vniuersality and Succession Nemo decessoruÌ„ meoruÌ„ hoc tam prophano vocabulo vti coÌ„sueuit-Nullus Romanorum Pontificum hoc singula ritatis nomeÌ„ assumpsit Greg. lib. 4. ep 76. 80 Touching Antiquitie Pope Gregorie 600 yeeres after Christ professeth publiquely That none of his predecessors did euer assume that profane Vniuersall title Touching Vniuersalitie Aluarez tells vs that Prester Iohn sent vnto him to know why the Pope diuided the Churches of Antioch and Rome seeing the Church of Antioch was in a manner the chiefe and head of all Churches Cathol Trad. pag. wherein St. Peter gouerned dwelt 5 yeres Whereunto when hee answered they were obliged by an Article of their faith hee replied If the Pope would vsurpe so great a prerogatiue as to command things vnlawfull they would make no reckoning of it and if by such meanes their Abuna their Primate would presume so far they would burne the copie of such a command In like maner Nilus Archbishop of Thessalonica tells vs Nilus lib. 1. de Primat Papae The Greeke Church though it neuer denyed the primacy of Order to the Pope of Rome yet their assumed predominance of authoritie it alwayes resisted Touching Succession Bellarmine himselfe confesseth Bell. in Praefat de Rom. Pontif. The first who most earnestly withstood the Supremacy of the Bishops of Rome seeme to bee the Grecian Fathers for since the yeere 381 they laboured to preferre the Bishop of Constantinople the three Patriarkes of the East in the second place next to the Bishop of Rome and this saith he may bee vnderstood by the second Generall Councell And as in this Councell of Constantinople there was a resistance made against the power and iurisdiction of the Bishop of Rome so likewise hee telleth vs further that in the yeere 451 Bell. ibideÌ„ the Greeke Fathers not being content with their determination laboured to make the Bishop of Constantinople equall with the Bishop of Rome for in the Councell of Chalcedon the Greeke Fathers decreed it but deceitfully in the absence of the Popes Legat that the Bishop of Constantinople should haue the second place after the Bishop of Rome notwithstanding hee should haue equall priuiledges with the other Thus two generall Councells the one consisting of 150 Bishops the other of 630 by the testimonies of the Popes Cardinall opposed the Supremacie of the Bishop of Rome the which Supremacie if in those dayes it had been receiued for an Article of faith or a Tradition Apostolique without doubt those two famous Councels would haue subscribed to it without any resistance or opposition to the vniuersall Head of the Church And that you may yet further know the Churches of Asia and Grecia continued their Resolution in this poynt Conc. Florentinum An. 1436. looke vpon the late Councell of Florence and there you shall obserue Paulus Aemilius Pantalcon that Michael Palaeologus by reason hee submitted himselfe to the Pope in that Councell was hated of all the people while hee liued and being dead was forbidden Christian buriall And Isidorus the Archbishop of Kiouia in Russia Math à Michonia in Nouo Orbe Iewel p. 411 for that he began for Vnities sake to mooue the people to the like submission was therefore deposed of his Bishoprick and put to death Thus the Popes Supremacie wants Antiquitie Vniuersalitie and Succession the proper markes of Romane Traditions and consequently can bee no Article of Faith no Apostolique Tradition as is pretended in this first poynt Purgatorie is reputed a Tradition Apostolicall and receiued in the Romane Church for an Article of Faith yet this doctrine wants Antiquitie Vniuersality and Succession Touching Antiquitie Nilus Archbishop of Thessalonica professeth in the name of the Greeke Church that it could bee no Tradition Apostolicall for saith hee Wee haue not receiued by Tradition from our Fathers Nil de Purgat igne Câ—th Trad. q. 16. that there is any fire of Purgatory or any temporall punishment and we know that the Easterne Church doth not beleeue it And amongst other reasons why Purgatory was not receiued by them Marcus Ephes in Graecorum Apolog. de igne Purgatorio ad Concil Florentinum they render this for one that whereas their Fathers had deliuered vnto them many visions and dreames and other wonders concerning the euerlasting punishment in hell yet none of them had declared any thing concerning the temporary fire of Purgatory Legat qui velit GraecoruÌ„ veteruÌ„ CoÌ„mentarios et nullum quantum opinor aut quaÌ„ rarissimè de Purgatorio sermoneÌ„ inueniet Sed neque Latini simul omnes at sensim huius rei veritatem conceperunt neque taÌ„ necessaria fuit
reforme the corrupt state of the Church which if hee did not performe he should returne home againe with dishonour and God would reserue the honour of his worke to some other and so saith he it fell out This holy man thirsted for a Reformation Hee complained against their Communion in one kinde against Iustification by Works against the manifold Traditions and Constitutions of their Church against the Popes Supremacie and withall proclaimed that the Roman Church taught not the Doctrine of Christ and his Apostles and this was counted to him for Heresie and for this hee was first hanged and then burnt About this time there was likewise written by Doctor Vicelius a Booke called Methodus Concordiae Ecclesiasticae Vicelius Wherein hee complaines also of Traditions contrary to the word of God hee calls for the translation of the Bible and wished the Seruice were deliuered in a knowne tongue hee complained of the worship of Images of Prayers to Saints of Purgatory as a doubtfull opinion he wished that Priests and people should rather marry then liue loosely as they doe and for these and the like Articles wherin he desired a Reformation Index libr. prohib de Sandoual Madril 1612. his Booke is condemned inter libros Prohibitos among the Books prohibited certainly the errors both in Doctrine and Discipline were grown to that height insomuch as Erasmus professeth it was commonly argued in the Schooles Whether the Pope might not abrogate that which was decreed in the Apostles Writings Eras Annot in 1. Tim. 1. Whether hee might ordaine any thing contrary to the Doctrine of the Gospel Whether he might create a new Article of the Creed Whether hee had greater power then Peter or equall Whether hee might command Angels and take away Purgatory altogether Whether hee were a meere man or God or participat of both natures with Christ Whether hee were more mercifull then Christ was seeing it is not read that Christ called any man out of the paines of Purgatorie Sixe hundred things saith hee of that sort were disputed and published in great volumes by great Diuines especially famous for profession of Religion and these things in the Schooles of Diuinitie were seriously handled And without doubt abuses were growne so exorbitant in the Church that Machiauell Protested The Kingdom of the Clergie had beene long since at an end if the reputation and reuerence towards the pouertie of Fryars had not borne out the scandall of the Bishops and Prelates Amidst these manifold errors and corruptions in the Church arose Martin Luther and desired a Reformation as his predecessors had done and at that time things were in so bad estate saith Guicciardine that the blood of Christ was profaned Guicciard hist lib. 13. the power of the keyes was made contemptible and the redemption of soules out of Purgatory was set at a stake at dice by the Pardon sellers to be played for This was so notorious and visible to the world that by the testimony of their own Historian there were that yeere many meetings at Rome to consult what was best to be done The more wise and moderate sort wished the Pope to reforme things apparantly amisse and not to prosecute Luther This reformation was long before wished for as wee see by the complainants in their own Church neither did Luther as some pretend oppose the errours of the Roman Church out of any prepensed malice Tem. 7. Wittemb 22. for Wee plainly and expressedly professe saith hee as our Bookes doe witnesse that if they would not constraine vs to Articles openly impious and blasphemous wee would defend them in other things Nec prodiit solus Lutherê° c. Alp. à Castre ep Nuncup ad Phil 2 Hisp Regem Neither came Luther alone saith Alphonsus such is the vnhappinesse of this age but garded with a great troope of Heretikes who seemed to looke for him that afterwards they might fight vnder his banner for presently Philip Melancthon Faber Capeto Lambertus Conradus Pellican Andreas Osiander Martin Bucer entred their names in his Booke and many other in processe of time in great numbers inserted themselues into his family And as it is obserued by their learned Cassander the Church Doctrine and discipline was so farre out of order at his coÌ„ming and before that many learned Writers published and declared their long wished for Reformation of the Church Thus briefly in the Apostles times you haue seene the glorious rising of the Sunne in the ages following the Sunne at highest from after 600 yeeres you haue seene the Sun towards setting In the first age shee was like the Moone in the first quarter and daily increasing in the ages following shee was in the full in succeeding ages shee was in the wane In the first age shee was like the Starre that appeared in the East and guided the Wisemen in the ages following the Fathers were the fixed stars and gaue light in the midst of Heresies in the latter ages there were Stellae erraticae wandring starres that fell from heauen such as St. Iohn speakes of Priests and professors that left their faith their first habitation And thus we see there is one glory of the Sunne another of the Moone another of the Starres and to all these the Church is rightly compared by Saint Austen Ecclesia est Sol Luna et Stellae quaÌ„do Sol ob scurabitur et Luna noÌ„ dabit luceÌ„ et Stellae cadent de coelo Ecclesia non apparebit impiis vltra moduÌ„ saevientibê° Aug. Ep. 80. The Church is the Sunne and the Moone and the Starres and as the Sunne shal be darkened and the Moone not giue her light and the starres shall fall from heauen so the Church shall not appeare by reason of persecution and worldly securitie then the power of heauen shal be moued and they that seeme to shine in grace shall fall and those that are most strong in faith shall be troubled These things premised wee may rightly inferre for a conclusion of this poynt that there was alwayes a remnant of true beleeuers in the bosome of the Romane Church who resisted the Papacie and noted the abuses neither were they ignorant lay men or an illitterate sort of Priests but they were Bishops Cardinals and learned Pastors that complained of the latencie and obscuritie of the true Church they longed for a Reformation in Doctrine and Discipline they wished that the true Religion might be restored to her first Integritie the Church to her ancient libertie her Faith and Doctrine to the Primitiue sinceritie and for this cause a continuall voice and lamentation was made by many of her children and shee would not be comforted because they were not such as shee first bred them From these and the like testimonies who constantly and continually wished a Reformation in Faith and Manners we may certainly conclude that eminent and perpetuall Visibilitie is no certaine Note of the true Church I proceed in the next place
particulars We say the Scripture is a sure euident perfect rule of Faith and this is Via Tuta a certaine and Safe way They say the Scripture is ambiguous obscure and insufficient and this is Via Deuia an vncertaine and By-way Wee say all Traditions concerning Faith and maners that can bee proued by Scriptures are of equall authority with the Scriptures and this is Via Tuta a certaine and Safe way They say that diuers Traditions of faith and manners wherof there is no ground nor euidence in the Scriptures are to bee receiued with equall reuerence religious respect as the Scriptures themselues and this is Via Deuia an vncertaine and By-way Wee say the vndoubted writings of the ancient Fathers are to be followed according to their owne rule so farre as they disagree no from the Scriptures and this is Via Tuta Bulla Pij 4 pro Forma Iuramenti c. a certaine and Safe way They say and take an oath to follow the iudgement of the Fathers making no distinction of true and doubtful Authors nor limiting their doctrine to the Scriptures and this is Via Deuia an vncertaine and By-way Wee say that Generall Councells lawfully called are of great authoritie and singular vse in the Church to determine Controuersies of Religion but yet are subiect vnto errour and this is Via Tuta a certaine and Safe way They say that Generall Councells called and confirmed by the Pope are of an infallible auhoritie and their Decrees are to be obeyed vnder a curse by all Christians and this is Via Deuia an vncertaine and By-way We say the Church is a Congregation of Pastors people wherin the word of God is truely preached and the Sacraments rightly administred and these are Essentiall marks of the true Church and this is Via Tuta a certaine and Safe way They say sometimes a Councell sometimes a Pope and his Consistorie sometimes the Pope alone is the Church the marks of their Church are amplitude and splendor and miracles c. and this is Via Deuia an vncertaine and By-way Wee say the Rocke vpon which the Church is built is Christ and this is Via Tuta a certaine and Safe way They say the Rocke is the Succession of Popes deriued from Peter and this is Via Deuia an vncertaine and By-way We say the effect of the Sacraments depends vpon the Institution of Christ and this is Via Tuta a certaine and Safe way They say the efficacie of the Sacraments depends vpon the Intention of the Priest and this is Via Deuia an vncertaine and By-way We say we ought to call vpon God by Christ and that he is our Mediator who onely knowes the secrets of our hearts and sits at the right hand of God to make intercession for vs And this is Via Tuta a certaine and Safe Way They say wee ought to vse Saints and Angels for Intercessors when as they haue no commission from God to present our prayers nor can know the secrets of the heart nor haue wee any assurance that they heare us at all and this is Via Deuia an Vncertaine and By-Way We say wee ought to adore Christs bodily presence in Heauen where he sits at the right hand of the Father according to the Apostles Creed and this is Via Tuta the certaine and Safe Way They say wee ought to adore Christs very body and bloud in the Pix vnder the accidents of Bread and Wine according to their Trent Creed and this is Via Deuia an vncertaine and By-Way Lastly we say that we are all vnprofitable seruants and no man liuing can bee iustified in the sight of God by his owne merits and therefore all that expect saluatiō must lay hold on Christ by a liuely faith and wholly rely vpon his merits only this is Via Tuta a certaine and Safe way They say that the Law of God may be fulfilled in this life and that they can merit and performe workes of Supererrogation and accordingly they rely partly vpon their merits partly vpon their superabūdant satisfaction of Saints for their Saluation and this is Via Deuia an vncertaine and By-Way Thus I haue set before you Truth and Error Light and darkenesse the Safe Way and the By-Way Giue Me leaue therefore by way of Conclusion to adiure You in the sacred forme of words sometimes vsed by the great Prophet Deut. 30.19 and faithfull Seruant of God I call Heauen and Earth to record this day against you that I haue set before you life and death blessing and cursing therefore chuse life that both thou and thy seed may liue 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉
interpretation of holy Scripture I doe admit so that by the latter part of the Article they allow the Fathers to bee interpreters of the Scriptures and by the first part they make themselues sole interpreters of the Fathers to which addition an ignorant Priest will sweare with a mentall reseruation that he doeth not receiue nor expound the Scripture but with the vniforme consent of Fathers that is according to the sense and iudgment of the Roman church for it is not to bee doubted but the Church will allow of that sense which is most agreeable to that doctrine and of that interpretation although it bee farre different from the Ancients which is most consonant to their Religion and the rather I incline to this opinion for that Cardinall Hosius doth protest it for a vniversall and Catholike doctrine of his Church Si quis habet interpretationeÌ„ Ecclesia Romana de loco aliquo Scriptura etiamsi nec sciat nec intelligat an quomodo cuÌ„ Scriptura verbis conueniat tamen habet ipsissimum verbuÌ„ Dei. Hos de expresso verb. Dei If a man haue the Interpretation of the Church of Rome of any place of Scripture hee hath the very words of God though he neither know nor vnderstand whether and how it agreeth with the words of Scripture Now if it happen that those which are better instructed by comparing of Scriptures and Fathers doe make a doubt of some place of Scripture which the Church teacheth different from the Fathers Cardinall Cusanus by way of preuention giues him to vnderstand Non est miruÌ„ si praxis Ecclesiae vno tempore interpretetur Scripturam vno modo et alio teÌ„pore alio modo naÌ„ intellectê° currit cum praxi intellectus enim qui cuÌ„ praxi coÌ„currit est spiritus vinificans sequuntur ergo scripturae ecclesiam et non è conuerso Nich. Cusan ad Bohem. Epist 7. that there is Fides Temporum a faith that followeth the time Neither is it any maruell saith hee though the practise of the Church expound the Scripture at one time one way and at an other time another way for the vnderstanding or sense of the Scripture runneth with the practise and that sense so agreeing with the practise is the quickening Spirit and therefore the Scriptures follow the Church but contrariwise the Church followeth not the Scriptures This learned Romanist tells vs it is no wonder that the Scripture is at diuers times diuersly expounded hee tells vs the Scripture attends the Churches pleasure and lastly which is most true hee professeth the Romish Church followeth not the Scripture but the times That this Cardinall speaketh truth I think no Protestant doth make a question but that you may be witnes also of the practise of these times you shall obserue how fitly these men haue applyed the Scripture to their Church whereas it is said to Peter in a vision Arise In voto Baronij contrà Venetos kill and eate Cardinall Baronius being Interpreter will tell you The Pope is Peter and the Venetians are the meate which must bee killed and deuoured In like manner whereas Saint Paul saith Haereticum deuitâ Auoyd an heretique the sillie Fryar applies it to times and persons with this Exposition Erasm Encom Moriae Haereticum de-vitâ tolle kill the heretique meaning the Protestant and in this manner according to the times the sense runneth with the practise or at leastwise I am sure this practise runneth with these times Thus then you haue Fides Ecclesia an Exposition of Scriptures according to the Article of the Romish Creed and Fides tempâ—rum an Exposition sutable to the times and their owne doctrine If therefore we appeale to Scriptures they account them dumbe Iudges without the Exposition of their Church if we require an Exposition with the consent of Fathers they tell vs we must admit that sense which the Church holdeth whose right is to iudge of the true sense of Scriptures If wee shew them that their Expositions are senselesse and disagreeing from the Ancients they tell vs the Scriptures may receiue different Expositions according to the times And thus they make the Scriptures sound like Bells according to their fancies and violate their oath with a Saluo Iure sauing a right to the sense and meaning of their owne Church This way therefore is Via Deuia a Wandring and By-way It resteth in the last and chiefest place to obserue the difference bewixt the Church of Rome and vs touching the intire Canon of Scriptures for without doubt this is the onely and infallible rule of faith and there is a curse denounced by God himselfe against all those that adde to his word Deut. 4.2 Reu. 22.18 or diminish ought from it It shall appeare therefore by many pregnant and infallible testimonies of our aduersaries themselues that the Canon of Scripture which we professe and beleeue was the same which was taught and declared by Christ and his Apostles in the first age the same which was published generally receiued by the ancient Fathers in succeeding ages the same which continued in the bosome of the Romane Church in all ages till the dayes of Luther SECT V. The intire Canon of Scriptures which wee professe without the Apocryphall additions is confirmed by pregnant testimonies in all ages and most of them acknowledged by the Romanists themselues IT was the complaint of Campian the Iesuite that the ancient Canon of Scripture was altered at the comming of Luther and thereupon as a man inraged against the Lutherans Camp Rat. 1. hee makes this open out-crie What incensed Luthers whelps to put out of the true Canon of Scripture Tobias Ecclesiasticus and the two bookes of Maccabees Desperation for by these heauenly oracles they are expressely conuinced as often as they dispute against the defence of Angels as often as they dispute against Freewill as often as they dispute against Praying for the dead as often as they dispute against Praying to the Saints Surely if this Romanist had beene as reall in his proofes as he was vaine glorious in his speeches he had gone beyond all the Romish Proselytes of our age for neuer man made greater flourishes with poorer proofes for it shall appeare that wee haue published no other Canon of Scripture then Christ and his Apostles taught and receiued no other then the ancient Fathers declared to be diuinely Canonicall and those onely Canonicall none other then the learned Doctors and Professors intirely preserued in the bosome of the Roman Church in all ages so that if any curse be denounced against vs for renouncing doctrines of faith deduced from Apocryphall Scriptures I say it shall appeare by the same Decree they haue layd an Anathâ—ma vpon Christ and his Apostles and haue cursed the ancient Fathers and the principall members of their owne Church In the first age to Ann. 100. First then wee must obserue Rom. 3.2 Factique sunt Iudaei depositarii et custodes
siue Purgatorii fiue IndulgentiaruÌ„ fides in Primitiuâ Ecclesia at que nunc est Roffen Aâ—t 18 p. 496. Touching Vniuersalitie It is the confession of Fisher their owne Bishop of Rochester Whosoeuer will reade the Commentaries of the ancient Greekes so farre as I see he shall finde very seldome mention of Purgatory or none at all and the Latins in the Westerne Church did not receiue the truth of this matter altogether but by little and little neither indeed was the faith either of Purgatorie or Indulgences so needfull in the Primitiue Church as now it is A strange confession of a learned Bishop that two principall Articles of Faith viz. Purgatorie and Indulgences were scarce knowne in the ancient Church nor yet very necessary to bee receiued at all times and of all persons Let it suffice many poynts of the now Romane Religion were vtterly vnknowne to the Greeke Church which in the first ages did wholly communicate with the ancient Romane Faith and therefore their Alphonsus à Castro thinkes it the best way to solue the poynt in question with this answere Vnus ex notissimis erroribus GraecoruÌ„ et ArmenoruÌ„ est quo docent nullum esse purgatoriuÌ„ locum quo animae ab hac luce migrantes purgentur à sordibus Alph. à Cas aduers haeres lib. 12. It is one of the most knowne errours of the Grecians and Armenians whereby they teach there is no place for Purgatorie where soules after this life are purged from their offences Touching Succession St. Chrysostome Gregorie Neocaesaria Olympiodorus and diuers ancient Fathers were vtterly ignorant of it and Saint Austen a Latine Father was so farre from receiuing it as a poynt of Faith that doubtingly hee professeth Tale aliquid etiam post haÌ„c vitaÌ„ fieri incredibile noÌ„ est et vtrù ita sâ— quaerâ— potest aut â—â—enâ—â—â—uâ—latere Aug. in Enchirid. ad Laurent cap. 69. It is not incredible that some such thing should bee after this life and whether it bee so or no it may beâ— a question and it may bee either found or bee hidden 〈◊〉 we all know and confesse that if Saint Austen and the Romane Church had receiued the doctrine of Purgatory in his dayes as it is now taught for an Article of Faith certainely hee would neuer haue told vs perhaps it is so it may be or it may not bee and it is a doubt whether there be any such place or no. And howsoeuer it is pretended that the Greeke Church at the Councell of Florence for peace sake was content to yeeld that the middle sort of soules were in a place of punishment but whether that were fire or darknesse and tempest or something else they would not contend yet I say if they had assented to this or the like doctrine it was 1400 yeeres after Christ and therefore most vnfit to be receiued for an Article of Faith but the truth is Marcus Bishop of Ephesus who was one of the Legats of the Patriarchs of Antioch Hierusalem would neuer consent to this Doctrine neither could the Greeke Church afterwards by any meanes bee drawne to yeeld to it Besides within two yeeres after Cardinall Cusanus and the Deputies of the Councell of Basil in the yeere 1438 doe sufficiently manifest the opinion of the Greek Church wherein the Grecians begin their disputation in this maner Mart. Crus in Turc Graec. p. 186 A Purgatory fire and a punishment by fire which is temporall and shall at last haue an end neither haue wee receiued from our Doctors neither doe wee know that the Church of the East dâ—eth maintaine it And from these and the like propositions they make this peremptory conclusion 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Ibid. Sacran c. 2. For these reasons therefore neither haue wee hitherto affirmed any such thing neither will wee at all affirme it I may adde to these Testimonies the opinions of the Muscouites who affirme that there is no Purgatory but onely two receptacles for soules Heauen and Hell Againe the Cophites and the Abissines the Georgians and Armenians together with the Syrians and Caldeans that are subiect to the Patriarkes of Antioch and Babylon from Cyprus and Palestina vnto the East Indies neuer made discouery of the new found land of Purgatory This doctrine therefore wants the proper markes of the Romane Church viz. Antiquitie Vniuersalitie and Succession and therefore can bee no Article of faith no Apostolique Tradition as is pretended in the second poynt Priuate Masse wherein the Priest alone doth communicate without the people hath neither Antiquity Vniuersalitie nor Consent and consequently hath not the true markes of Romish Traditions Touching Antiquitie it is the confession of their owne Cochleus Coch. de sacrif Missae contra Musculum Anciently all the Priests and people did communicate together as appeareth by the Canons of the Apostles and writings of ancient Fathers Odo in Exposit Canonis And Odo Cameracensis professeth that in the Primitiue Church they neuer had Masses without the conuention of the people to communicate together Touching Vniuersalitie it is the confession of Iohannes Hoffmeistenus Cassand Consult de solit Miss pag. 906. The thing it selfe doeth speake and crie aloud both in the Greeke and Latin Church that not onely the sacrificing Priest but the other Priests and Deacons and the rest of the people or at least some part of the people did communicate together and how this custome ceased it is to bee wondred and it is to be endeauoured that this good custome may bee restored to the Church Touching Succession St. Chrysostome speaking to the lay people of his time Chrys in 2. Thessal Hom. 4. saith Neither doe we receiue more and you lesse of the holy table but we taste therof equally both together And St. Basil an other Greeke Father witnesseth the common vnion of Priests and people expressely in these words Liturg. Basilii All wee receiuing of one bread and one cup c. the Quire singeth the Communion and so they communicate together I will adde to these the confessions of their owne learned Authors Cardinall Bessarion a Greeke borne declareth the maner of the Communion in his time PrimuÌ„ consecrare deinde fraÌ„gere postea distribuere quod nos in praesenti facimê° Bessar de sacr Euch. An 1450. The very order of the things required first that we should consecrate or blesse bread next that we should breake it last of all that wee should diuide or deliuer it to the people which thing we Grecians doe at this present day And for a conclusion of this poynt Iustinian and Durand publikely declare and professe that in ancient times Iustin in 1. Cor 10. Durand Rat. 4 c. 53. diuers parts of one consecrated loafe were distributed to all the which the Greeke Church vseth at this day that by their Communion their vnion with Christ might bee more plainely expressed Thus Priuate Masse wants the requisite conditions of the Romane
scrip Eccles. ann 290. Gregorie Nyssen his eight Bookes De Philosophia are cited by Bellarmine for Free-will yet in his Catalogue aforesaid he confesseth they seeme not to be the bookes of Gregory Nyssen Lactantius Verses are cited by Bellarmine for Adoration of the Crosse and yet he confesseth elsewhere that it is doubted whether Lactantius were the Author Bell. li 1. de ver Dei ca. 14. Nec librum illum esse Augustini vt erudit fatentur Bell. de Mis lib. 2. c. 12. Ad locum Saint Austen is cited ad Orosium by Bellarmine to prooue Ecclesiasticus Canonicall Scripture but elsewhere when he is obiected in our behalfe in that Tract hee answeres it is not Saint Austens worke as learned men confesse Iustin Martyr Bell lib de Bap c. 25. Idem lib. de Confir c. 5. Idem lib. de Euch. c. 2. Idem lib. 1. de Sanct. 1. 4 § 3. his Questions are alleadged by Bellarmine for Vnction in baptisme for the Sacrament of Confirmation for Transubstantiation but elsewhere hee declareth them to be the work of some new Authour and not the workes of Iustin Martyr Origen in his Homilies on the Gospels Lib. 2. de Euch. c. 8. lib 3. de paenit ca 7. is cited by Bellarmine for the Reall presence and his Homilies on the Psalmes he cites for Auricular confession In lib. de Script Eccles yet the one he disclaimeth as none of Origens the other he freely confesseth it is doubted of who is the Author Cassianus is cited by Bellarmine for an ancient Author Bell de Iustif l. 1. c. 13 for the poynt of Iustification Idē de bon oper cap. 2. lib. 2. and set times of fasting yet elsewhere hee acknowledgeth the booke for Apocryphall and counterfet Bell li. 6. de lib. arb ca. 4 § accedat and condemned in a Roman Councell vnder Pope Gelasius Bell li. 2. de Pont. c. 14. Eusebius his third Epistle is cited by Bellarmine for the Supremacie yet he professeth elsewhere Idem de Confirm lib. 2. c. 7. it is not certaine who is the Author thereof Hee that shall reade these and many such like authorities of pretended Fathers in behalfe of the Roman Religion might at first sight happily bee induced to beleeue that all or most of the ancient Doctors of the Church belong to them when as in truth our aduersaries vse them but as Merchants vse their Counters sometimes they stand with them for pence sometimes for pounds as they bee next and readiest at hand to make vp their account Thus one while they muster vp their forces by multitudes of authorities as if they would make that good by number which they want in weight Sometimes they condemne them as counterfet sometimes they purge them as if they were full of corruptions according to seuerall occasions they haue their seuerall deuices to produce them or auoyd them at their pleasure Si conficta historia non est vllius authoritatis Bell. lib. 2. de Pont. cap. 9. whereas if they bee counterfeit as they are confessed to bee they are of no authoritie if Catholique and Orthodoxe they make nothing for the points in Controuersie as shall bee presented in the next place SECT XI The most substantiall poynts of Roman Faith and Doctrine as they are now taught and receiued in the Church of Rome were neuer taught by the Primitiue Church nor receiued by the ancient Fathers NEither are these men content to challenge a right to all the Fathers although they confesse they are not all orthodox and true Fathers but they likewise charge vs that Sebast Flash in profess Cath. we make no more account of them then wee doe of the Turkes Alcaron or Aesops Fables Nay saith Bristow it is well known to such as heare the Protestants Sermons Bristow Mot. 14. or bee in place to heare them talke boldly and familiarly among themselues are not afrayd to confesse plainely that the Fathers are all Papists A strange and senselesse fiction deuised by these men when not onely our learned Diuines but the vulgar people are all eye-witnesses that the Booke written by the Iewel of our age is published in all the Churches of our kingdom whose challenge for the principall points of our Religion is made good and will euer remaine vnanswerable out of the Writings and Authorities of the ancient Fathers But admit some Protestants were so ignorant or senselesse as to say priuately All the Fathers were Papists what stupiditie then may we think it in the chiefe Pastors of the Romane Church which by their publike writings and open confession acknowledge the principall poynts of Controuersie yea their chiefe Articles of Faith were vnknowne to the ancient Fathers We confesse it for a truth that the ancient Fathers St. Austen S. Ambrose St. Hierome and the rest were learned men they were Instruments of Grace and Mercy we read them we reuerence them we giue God thankes for them but withall wee learne this lesson frō them Wee weigh not the writings of men August ad Fortunat. Epist 111. bee they neuer so worthy and Catholique as wee weigh the Canonicall Scriptures but yeelding that reuerence that is due vnto them Wee may mislike and refuse something in their writings if we find they haue thought otherwise then the trueth may beare and such saith Austen am I in the writings of others and such I would wish others to be in mine Saint Austen thought it no preiudice to the Romane Church nor disparagement to his own learning to haue his writings examined by the rule of Scripture Nay more saith he that which in my bookes thou thinkest to bee vndoubtedly true Quod certū non habebis nisi certum intellexeris noli firmè retinere Aug in Proae lib 3. de Trinit vnlesse thou perceiue it to bee true indeed hold it not resolutely St. Ambrose was so farre from wishing Prince or people to rely vpon his doctrine that by way of preuention hee writes to Gratian the Emperour Nolo argumento eredas sancte Imperator nostrae disputationi Scripturas interrogemus c. Ambros de Fide ad Grat l 1 c. 4 Beleeue not O Emperour our Arguments and our Disputations let vs aske the Apostles let vs aske the Prophets let vs aske Christ. Now admit a doubtfull Recusant at this day repaire for instruction to a Romish Priest or Bishop will he answer him with Austen Examine my doctrine by the rule of Scripture and if you find it not agreeable to that Word hold it not resolutely or will he answer him with Ambrose Heare not my arguments beleeue not vs that are the professed Priests and Pastors of the Church but read the Scriptures consult with the Oracles of God let Christ the Head of the Church resolue the doubts and controuersies of Religion Surely nothing is more to bee wished for by vs nothing is lesse to be hoped for from them True it is that St.
and his associates haue taken great paines to little purpose but I submit my opinion to the iudgment of the learned proceed from the Fathers in generall to particulars wherin I wil instance in two principall Lights of the Westerne Church St. Austen and St. Gregory the one Bishop of Hippo the other Bishop of Rome whereby you shal plainly discerne how the later Popes and Bishops doe differ from the former and how these two Fathers of the Church concurre expresly with the doctrine professed in the Reformed Churches different from the Roman SECT XII Saint Austen in particular is much disparaged by the Romanists and for instance in many seuerall poynts of moment wherein he professedly concurreth with vs is expresly reiected by them TOrrensis the Iesuite hath abbreuiated all St. Austens workes and published them in honour of his Church by the name of Augustiniana Confessio Austens Confession Brerely the Priest hath contracted his doctrine into a lesser modell and more particularly applyed it to the Roman faith by the name of Saint Austens Religion as if Saint Austen and the Romanists did professe one and the same Religion made one and the same confession of their faith To say little of their great brags of this holy Father I will giue you but one instance and so descend into particulars Is Author est Augustinus vt eius sententia si vel nulla scriptura nulla ratione nullis aliis authoribus probaretur sola personae reuerentia satis magna authoritatem meretur Mal. in Ioh. 6. num 68. Maldonat the Iesuite tels vs that Saint Austen is an Author of that esteeme that his opinion were it neither proued by â—cripture nor reason nor any other Author yet the sole reuerence of his person deserues sufficient authoritie of it selfe Here is an ample testimony touching the great light of the westerne Church but look we backe to the Iesuits proceeding in that very Tract vpon the same Chap. within six foregoing Verses of the same Text where he giues this free full approbation of this learned Father and finding that S. Austens Exposition of an other Scripture did disagree from the Romane Church Non nego me huim interpretationis authorem nemineÌ„ habere sed hanc eò magis probo quaÌ„ illaÌ„ alteraÌ„ Augustini caeteraâ—uÌ„alioqui probatissimam quòd haec cuÌ„ Caluinistarum sensu magis pugnat Mald. in Ioh. 6 n 62. and accord wholly with the Protestant faith instantly as it were with the same breath cryes out against him I confesse I haue no author for my Exposition but I rather allow it then that of Austens although his of the rest be most probable because this of mine doeth more crosse the sense of the Caluinists I will descend into particulars and notwithstanding our aduersaries great brags of St. Austen I will giue you instances in many principal poynts of doctrine wherein they plainely intimate by their owne confessions he is wholly ours 1. Touching the proofe of Purgatory whereas Saint Paul saith 1 Cor. 3. The fire shall trie euery mans worke of what sort it is for the day shall declare it Aug. de fide oper c. 16 St. Austen interprets by this fire is meant the fire of tribulation in this world Bell de Pur. lib. 1. cap. 5. but this opinion of his we haue reiected saith Bellarmine 2. Saint Austen saith When Peter receiued the keyes hee represented the holy Church § Quarto Aug. Tract in Ioh. 50. and therefore the power of the keyes was not giuen to Peter onely Albertus Pigghius is a witnesse against him that hee is the onely man De Augustino possem dicere quod vnus homo fuerit hâc in re nec firmitèr secum nec cuÌ„ aliis consentiens Hier. Eccles lib 6 cap. 4. who in this poynt neither agreeth constantly with himselfe nor with others 3. Saint Austen saith by the daily sacrifice spoken of in the Prophet Malachie is meant the prayers and praises of Saints Azorius makes answere Aug. lib. 2 contr lit cap â—6 Reliquum veteruÌ„ PatruÌ„ coetum atponimê° et Concil Tridentini testimonium Azor. Instit Moral part 1. l. â—0 c. 11. Aug contr Adim c. 12. Iewel Art 12 pa 346. Wee oppose against him the generall consent of other Fathers and the testimonie of the Councell of Trent 4. St. Austen saith Christ spake these words This is my body when hee gaue a signe of his body Master Hardin makes answere that St. Austen fighting against the Mâ—nichees oftentimes vseth not his owne sense and meaning but those things which by some means howsoeuer it were might seeme to giue him aduantage against them so as he might put them to the worst 5. St. Austen saith Those words of Saint Luke August de Consens Evang lib. 3. cap. 1. I will not hencefoorth drinke of the fruit of the Vine are to be vnderstood of the Sacramentall Cup and consequently the fruit of the vine was wine in substance after consecration Dico Augustinum non expendisse hunc locum diligenter Bellar. de Eâ—ch li. 1. cap 11. Bellarmine is a witnesse against him that hee did not well consider of that text which appeares by this that hee passed it ouer lightly 6. Saint Austen saith The Israelites eate of the same spirituall meate Aug in Ioh. Tract 26. but not the same corporall which wee eate for they eate Manna wee an other meat but both the same spirituall meat Maldonat confesseth this is the doctrine of the Caluinists Hoc dicopersua um me habereâ— D. AugustinuÌ„ si nostrâ fuisset aetate longè alitèr censurum Mâ—ld in Ioh. 6. n. 50. but saith he I am verily perswaded that if Austen had been liuing in these dayes and had seene the Calutnists so interpret Saint Paul he would haue beene of an other mind especially being such an vtter enemy to heretikes 7. Saint Austen saith Sine fide etiaÌ„ quae videÌ„tur bona opera in peccata vertuntur Aug. contr duas Ep. Pelag. ad Bonif l. 3. c. 5. Non sequeÌ„da illa opinio quam TridentinuÌ„ Concilium nuper merito damnauit omnia infidelium opera esse peccata quaÌ„uis maximuÌ„ authorem DiuuÌ„ AugustinuÌ„ habuisse videatur Mald. Com. in Math. 7.18 The workes which are done without faith though they seeme good are turned into sinne Maldonat answers Wee may not defend that opinion which the Councell of Trent did of late iustly condemne although the great Father S. Austen seeme to be of that opinion 8. Saint Austen saith He crowneth thee Coronat te quia dona sua coronat non merita tua Aug. in Psal 10â— Bish in his Refor of a Cathol deformed because he crowneth his owne gifts not thy merits M. Bishop protesteth that Saint Austen was too wise to let any such foolish sentence to passe his pen. 9. Saint Austen saith I know certaine worshippers of Tombes and Pictures August de Mor. Eccles li. 1. c. 34. Bell.
de Imag c. 16. whom the Church condemneth Bellarmine answers This booke was written in the beginning of his first conuersion to the Catholike Faith Aug. de corrept gra cap 1. D. Augustinus duÌ„ toto spiritus ac verboruÌ„ ardore pro defensione diuinae gratiae pugnat aduersus Pelagianos liberuÌ„ arbitriuÌ„ cuÌ„ iniuria diuinae gratiae exâ—olleÌ„tes in alteraÌ„ quasi foueam delaâ—s vtdetur minusque interdum iribuere quam par sit liberae hominis volâ—tati Sixt. Seneâ—â— in Bib. sanct l. 5 in Prefat Nos noÌ„ moueat Augustinus vel tantillum c. Episc Bitont comment in Ep. ad Rom. ca. 5. p. 270. 10. Saint Austen saith In doing good none can bee free in will and act vnlesse hee be free by him that said If the Sonne free you you are truely freed Sixtus Senensis saith Whilst Saint Austen doth contend earnestly against the Pelagians for the defence of diuine Grace hee doth seeme to fall into an other pit and sometimes attribute too little to Freewill But saith the Bishop of Bitonto Let not Saint Austen mooue vs at all for it is proper ana peculiar to him that when he opposetth any errour hee doeth it with that vehemencie that hee seemes to fauour an other errour euen so when hee prosecutes Arrius hee seemes to fauour Sabellius when Sabellius Arrius when Pelagius the Maniches when the Maniches Pelagius and this is very considerable and ought especially to be noted in him Lastly Saint Austen vpon the words of Christ saith Thou art Peter August de verb. Dom. Serm. 13. and vpon this Rocke which thou hast confessed vpon this Rock which thou hast knowne saying Thou art Christ the Son of the liuing God will I build my Church for the Rocke was Christ. Stapl. princip doct lib. 6. c. 3. Stapleton answers It was lapsus humanus an humane errour caused by the diuersitie of the Greek and Latin tongue which either hee was ignorant of or marked not Bell. li 1. de Pont. ca. 10. Bellarmine replies Saint Austen was deceiued by the ignorance onely of the Hebrew tongue But Albertus Pigghius concludes with a witnes against him Nusquam hanet nusquam figit sed vbique explorat vbique tentat et suberatur omnia et quicquid probabile occcurrit alicubi amplectitur qd coÌ„tinuò post displicet retractatur Ociose secum inquireÌ„tu et tentaÌ„tis omnia Alb. Piggh. Hier. Eccles lib. 3. c. 5. Nusquam haeret nusquam figit He neuer resolues certainly vpon any thing but as if he were idle-headed giuen to crotchets hee fetcheth about this way and that way and at length lighting vpon some probabilitie layeth hold on it and then dislikes it and presently retracts it Thus if wee may credit their best learned Romanists St. Austen did not agree constantly with himselfe nor others his doctrine is opposed by the consent of Fathers in the Trent Councell hee vsed not his owne meaning in fighting against heretiques If hee had been liuing in these dayes he would haue been of an other mind He is inconstant and fixeth in certaine vpon nothing but as an idle-headed man full of crotchets one while hee resolues an other while he retracts it You haue heard Saint Austens confession and our aduersaries solution touching the chiefe poynts in question betwixt vs wherby as yet I see no cause why the Romanists should brag of the ancient Fathers in generall nor of St. Austen in particular I proceed in the next place to examine the faith of Austen the Monke that it may appeare whether that doctrine which hee published heere in England aboue a thousand yeeres since bee consonant to our Religion or the doctrine of the Roman Church SECT XIII Saint Gregory pretended to bee the Founder of the Romane Religion in England by sending Austen the Monke for conuersion of this Nation in his vndoubted writings directly opposeth the Romish faith in the maine poynts thereof AVsten the Monke was sent into England by Gregorie the Great about the yeere 600 and is tearmed by the Romanists of this latter age Englands Apostle To say nothing of the haughtinesse of his person through whose pride and contempt twelue hundred poor Christians and holy men of Bangor were murdered as it is related by Venerable Bede Bede Hist Ang l. 2. c. 2 let vs obserue the doctrine of that age and because we haue no Records of the Monkes doctrine let vs reflect vpon Gregory the Great whose writings are extant and who without doubt professed the substance of that Faith which by his Warrant and Commission was then published in England by Austen the Monke It is the generall vote of the Romanists in this latter age that the Faith which Gregorie deliuered in his dayes was so true and Catholike that If an Angell from heauen should teach other doctrine then that we haue receiued from Gregorie wee are not to heare him Canus the Bishop of Canaries well vnderstood that this Assumpsit was of too large an extent and therfore wisely by way of preuention giues this caueat to the Reader Canus li. 11 loc Theol. c. 6. p. 540. It is fitting for a Diuine to bee admonished and not suddenly to bee perswaded that all things are perfect which great and learned Authors haue written as for example Gregorie and Bede the one in his Historie of England the other in his Bookes of Dialogues haue published such miracles commonly receiued and beleeued which the censurers of this age will thinke to be doubtfull and vncertaine I speake not this to decline the doctrine of Gregorie Quid est hoc quaeso te qd in hiâ— extremis temporibus tâ—m multa de animabus c Greg. Dial lib 4. cap. 40. for howsoeuer many ceremonies and strange opinions through visions and apparitions of dead men which Gregorie in his Dialogues complained of sprung vp in his dayes yet the principall poynts of doctrine did as yet remaine sound and stable so that setting aside his Dialogues which are but Aniles fabulae no way fit to prooue Articles of Faith In his vndoubted Writings there will bee found few or no substantiall points which are not agreeable to the Tenets of our Church and altogether different froÌ„ the Roman and that this may become more manifest to the Reader I haue compared the Trent Doctrine and ours with Gregorie that by parallelling the Articles on both sides the Antiquitie of the true Church may visibly appeare by the faith of Gregory The Canonicall Bookes of Scripture Gregorie We doe not amisse Non inordinatè agimê° si ex libris licet noÌ„ Canonicis sed tamen ad edificationeÌ„ Ecclesia editis testimonium proferamê° Greg. Moral lib. 19. ca 13. Artic 6. if wee bring forth a testimony out of the bookes of Maccabees which though they are not Canonicall yet are they set forth for the edification and instruction of the Church Church of England The books of Maccabees the Church doeth reade for
nihilo minùs Ecclesia Ioh. Rag. orat in Conc. Basil de CoÌ„mun sub vtraque specie it is the confession of Iohannes Ragusius in his Oration at the Councell of Basil Licet in Lege c. Although in the old time the visible Images of God yea and of his Saints were forbidden by the Law of God and no libertie was since granted either in the Old or New Testament to make any such yet the Church taught by the holy Spirit hath not onely permitted but decreed and ordained it Touching the Communion in both kinds it is the confession oâ— the Generall Councell of Constance Conc. Constant Sess 13. Conc. Trid. Sess 5. Can. 2. and the Councell of Trent Licet Christus c Although Christ did instituâ— the Sacrament in both kinds yet saith the Trent Councel he that shall say the Catholikâ— Church hath not altered it foâ— good causes or that they errâ— in so doing let him bee accursed These are speciall poinâ— with them and the denyaâ— of any of these make a maâ— heretike in the Church 〈◊〉 Rome yet by their owâ— confession are decreed wiâ—â— Non obstante Notwithstaâ—ding Christ and his Apostles taught the contrary Obserue then the difference betwixt the Gospell of Christ and the doctrine of the Roman Church the Spirit of God denounced a curse both against men and Angels that should teach any other doctrine then that they receiued from the Scriptures the Church of Rome pronounceth Anathema against all those that do not teach and beleeue the doctrine of their Church although it be different from the Scriptures I confesse the name of the Church is honourable and her credit singular but that which stickes with mee and as I conceiue is worthy of all mens obseruation the name of the Church which is so much magnified and adored of all Romanists and Romish Proselytes I say that Romane Church is neither vnderstood by the ignorant what it is neither is it resolued by the learned amongst them in certaine what is properly meant vnderstood by it First then we must know as the Church hath many parts to act Ecclesia Essentialis Representatiua Virtualis CoÌ„sistorialis Bell. de Eccles li. 3. c. 2. so likewise the Romanists make her of foure seuerall sorts The Essentiall Church and this saith Bellarmine is a company of men professing the same Christian Faith and Sacraments and acknowledging the Bishop of Rome to bee the chiefe Pastor and Vicar of Christ vpon the earth The Representatiue Church and this is an Assembly of Bishops in a generall Councell representing the whole bodie of the Church The Vertuall Church and this is the Bishop of Rome who is said to bee the chiefe Pastor of the whole Church and hath in himselfe eminently and vertually both truth and infallibilitie of iudgment and vpon whom dependeth all that certaintie of truth which is found in the whole Church The Confistoriall Church and this consisteth of the Pope and Cardinals and is termed by the Sâ—rbonists The Court of Rome Curia Romana Touching these seuerall acceptions of the Church there are seuerall and different opinions The Glosse vpon Gratian put the first question Quaero de quâ Ecclesiâ intelligas quoà hic dicitur quod non possit errare Res Ipsa congraegatio fideliuÌ„ hîc dicitur Ecclesia Causa 24. q. 1. c. A recta ConciliuÌ„ legitimuÌ„ omniuÌ„ consensu maximè propriè dici possit Ecclesia Bell de Conc. et Eccles l. 1. c. 18 Per EcclesiaÌ„ intelligimê° Pontif. Romanum qui pro teÌ„pore Ecclesia nauiculaÌ„ moderatur et EcclesiaÌ„ PapaÌ„ interpretantur non abnuo Desp ca. 10 lib. 3. de verbo Dei Greg. de Val. disp Theol. ToÌ„ 1. disp 1. q. c. Apud moder nos maximè importat hoc nomen Ecclesia quemadmodum hoc Ecclesia Rom. vrbis duduÌ„ obtinutt cuius ministri et Presidentes sunt Papa et Cardinales ipsius qui iam ex vsu quodam obtinuerunt dici Ecclesia Defens pacis part 2. cap. 2. Cerem li. 1 Sect 8 c. 6. and thus resolues it I would know what Church you vnderstand when you say It cannot erre I answere It is the congregation of the faithfull that is heere meant by the Church To the second Bellarmine replies A lawfull Councell by the most generall consent is most properly termed the Church To the third Gretzerus the Iesuite makes this confession I deny not but by the Church wee vnderstand the Bishop of Rome for the time being who guides the Ship of the militant Church and Gregory de Valentia by the Church wee meane her Head that is to say the Romane Bishop in whom resideth the full authoritie of the Church To the fourth Marsilius Patauinus giues his free assent that the name of the Church is of great consequence amongst the moderne Writers whose Ministers and Presidents are the Pope and Cardinalls which now by vse and custome haue at last obtained to bee called the Church and of this Church the Pope himselfe hath made this declaration Yee shall bee the Senatours of my citie and like vnto Kings the very hookes and stayes of the world vpon whom the very doore of the Church Militant must bee turned and ruled Now amidst these different opinions it must needes seem questionable to which of these Churches a poore ignorant soule who desires satisfaction in matters of Religion should addresse himselfe if hee require iudgement of the Essentiall Church there is little comfort and lesse assurance to be had from them for they consist most of the ignorant and common people and haue chiefest need of instruction themselues besides it is impossible to know the iudgment of all Christians who make the vniuersall Church in all or any particular poynts of Religion If he appeale to Councells their right calling is vncertaine their Decrees and Canons are doubtfull for many of them are adiudged by themselues erronious many spurious and counterfet If hee would consult with the Pope and Cardinals in their Consistorie it is a iourney too costly and tedious besides it will appeare they are subiect vnto errour It resteth then that we examine the infallibilitie of particular Churches and in particular that wee enquire whether the Roman church be that Church which wee are commanded to heare and obey by the authoritie of the Scriptures SECT XVIII The most common Plea of the Romanists drawne from the Infallibilitie Authoritie and Title of the Catholique Church is prooued to be false vaine and friuolous TO giue the Church of Rome her due let vs take a briefe suruay of her first foundation and let vs fee what priuiledge did ancienly belong vnto her and what authoritie shee claimeth at this day First the Apostle St. Paul in his Epistles to the Romans congratulates with them and sendeth them this greeting Rom. 1.7 To all that bee in Rome beloued of God called to be Saints hee testifieth further with prayer thanksgiuing Vers 8. that their Faith was
iudgement of the Church for saith Stapleton Although the Church by reason of her Ministerie and Mastership receiued of God Stapl. lib. 3. de author Scrip. c. 12. doth cause vs to beleeue yet the reason wherefore wee beleeue is not the Church but God speaking within vs and witnessing his trueth vnto vs by his holy Spirit Thus briefly touching the authoritie of the Church now I proceed to our aduersaries claim touching the Vniuersalitie of it Lessius the Iesuite tells vs The Church of Rome Sola Ecclesia Romana eique adhaerens multitudo Ecclesia Catholica c. Less in Consult Consid 6. and that Church onely and the multitude adhering to it is the Catholique Church the Religion of this Church is Catholique the faith is Catholique the doctrine is Catholique and their followers are tearmed Catholikes What is properly vnderstood by the Catholike Church St. Austen deliuers in these words Non haec aut illa It is not this Church Toto orbe diffusa Aug. de rudibus Catech c. 20. or that Church but the Church dispersed throughout the whole world Maiores nostri Catholicā nominarunt vt ex ipso nomine ostenderent quia per totum est Aug de Vnit Eccles cap. 2. and from hence Our Ancestours named the Church Catholique that by that name they might demonstrate the Vniuersall If then the Church of Rome can prooue their Church Vniuersall there would be an end of all controuersies for we professe our selues to bee members of the vniuersall Church wee say that Church can neither erre totally nor finally and wee willingly grant that out of that Church there is no saluation But certainly this last Tenet doeth strongly euince that the Roman Church is not Vniuersall for Saint Stephen and St. Iames and others suffered Martyrdome and were saued in the Church of Hierusalem and in the Church of Antioch before the Church of Rome was euer heard of and they were all members of the vniuersall Church But let the Church of Rome claime what title or prerogatiue she list shee is in danger to fall vpon a Rocke for if shee confesse that shee is a particular Church shee stands subiect vnto errour if shee assume the title of Vniuersall she is altogether invisible for Vniuersale sentitur non videtur That which is Vniuersall is vnderstood not seene It is the Article of our Creed I beleeue the Catholique Church and Hoc enim veracitèr dicitur credi quod non potest videri Greg. Dial. 4. c. 4. that is truely said to bee beleeued which is inuisible saith Gregorie And that the world may know the Romanists are Nominals such as vaunt of the name of Catholikes as the Donatists did in the Primitiue Church when they want the nature of the thing it selfe their owne Waldensis who well vnderstood how to make a difference betwixt the particular Roman and the Vniuersal Catholike Church tels vs Wald. de doctr Fidei lib. 2. art 2. cap. 19. The Church whose faith neuer faileth according to the promise made to Peter is not any particular Church as the Church of Africa nor the particular Romane Church but the Vniuersall Church not gathered together in a Generall Councell which hath sometimes erred but it is the Catholique Church dispersed through the whole world from the Baptisme of Christ vnto our times which doeth hold and maintaine the true Faith and faithfull testimony of Iesus Neither was this the particular opinion of one priuate man but many Bishops and learned Doctors did professe publikely in the Councell of Ferara Quacunque facultate Romana Eccles praedita sit vniuersali Ecclesiae inferior sit Concil Ferar Sess 10 With whatsoeuer power the Church of Rome is indued yet it is inferiour to the Vniuersall Church And if wee require a cloud of witnesses behold both Princes and Cardinalls and Bishops in the great Councell of Basil resolued and declared Ecclesia Romana non est vniuersa sed est de vniuersalitate corporis mystici Concil Basil in Appendice That the Church of Rome is not Vniversall but a part of that vniversall mystical body of Christ as appeareth by Gregorie Therefore for as much as it is a member of the said body it is not neither can it be the Head of the same body since there is a difference betwixt Head and members Thus if wee looke for Infallibilitie it is not found in the Romane Church If wee looke for the Authoritie of the Church it is inferiour to the Scriptures vnlesse they say the Scripture is vnder the Church as some say the Sunne is vnder a cloud when it is aboue it If wee looke for Vniuersalitie the Romane Church is but a member and no sound member of the Vniuersall Let vs therefore examine in particular where or in whome wee shall finde this Church which doeth assume those great and glorious Titles to her selfe SECT XIX The Church which our Aduersaries so much magnifie amongst themselues is finally resolued into the Pope whom they make both the Husband and the Spouse the Head and the Body of the Church SAint Matthew tels vs that our Sauiour Christ gaue charge to Saint Peter as well as to the rest of his Disciples that if any dissention did happen which they could not well reconcile among themselues they should tell the Church If Saint Peter himselfe was commaunded to tell the Church and the Pope bee St. Peters Successor it would somewhat trouble a doubtful Recusant how to vnderstand and beleeue the Pope for the Church for if Christ had taken Peter for the Church it is not probable hee would haue bid him tell the Church for that had beene all one as to bid the Church tell the Church Yes Postremò dicere Ecclesiae id est sibi ipsi Bel. de Concil author lib. 2. cap. 19. saith Bellarmine the Pope ought to tell it to the Church that is to himselfe I take not vpon me to answer this learned Cardinall but I dare avowe that this Exposition of Scripture is not according to the Article of his faith with the vniforme consent of Fathers Howbeit by this solution of Dic Ecclesiae wee are informed where and in whom wee may finde the Romane Church Gretzerus the Iesuite puts the question touching the Pope and returnes his answere in this manner Ais tertio interpretátur Ecclesiam Papā non abnuo quid tum Gretz def c. 10. l. 31. de verbo Dei Thou saiest they interpret the Church the Pope I graunt it what then yet wee may doubt of his sentence for how can wee bee certaine that he erres not Yes saith hee from these sayings I will giue thee the keyes c. The gates of Hell shall not preuaile c. Whatsoeuer thou bindest shall bee bound c. But who shall iudge of the sense of these places How shall I know those things are spoken of the Pope From Ecclesiasticall Tradition from the consent of our Elders from the Suffrage of
all Antiquitie from the Text it selfe if there bee brought no peruerse or preiudicate opinion against it to conclude whether thou wilt or no thou shalt beleeue it from the Popes owne Sentence and determination To this Church then lyeth an appeale from Scriptures from Councels from the Essentiall Church and for that cause Cardinall Bellarmine proclaimes it as the Popes Champion Bellar. de Concil author lib. 2. cap. 17. Nos defendimus Wee maintaine that the Pope is simply and absolutely aboue the vniuersall Church and aboue Generall Councells and as great men sometimes loue to bee soothed vp in their greatnesse and are led with opinion of their Parasites to beleeue that for a trueth which is but a suggestion of falsehood so it came to passe touching the Popes power in these latter dayes they did so much atatribute to his Authoritie and Infallibilitie deriued from Peter that Cardinall Zabarella rightly obserued and ingenuously confessed They haue made the Popes beleeue Persuaserunt Pontificibus quod omnia possunt sic qd facerent quicquid liberet etiam illicitet sint plusquaÌ„ Deus Zabarella that they might doe all things whatsoeuer they listed yea notwithstanding they were things vnlawfull and thus saith he they haue made him more then God Bishop Begnius in the last Councell of Lateran speaking to Pope Leo cryes out in admiration of his Holinesse Ecce venit Leo Behold heere commeth a Lyon of the Tribe of Iuda the Root of Dauid Te Leo beatissime saluatoreÌ„ expectauimus apprehende scutum c Concil Later 5. Sess 6. in orat Begn ad Leon. 10. behold hee hath raised vp a Sauiour which shall deliuer the people of God from the hand of the destroyer Thou art hee O most blessed Leo whom we haue expected as a Sauiour take vp thy sword and buckler and arise in our defence And thus by degrees first Vox populi the common people by admiring his greatnesse then Bishops Cardinals by their flattering suggestions haue at last ascribed infallibilitie of Iudgement to his Authoritie which I am verily perswaded neuer Pope did beleeue in himselfe and hereby they haue aduanced him aboue Fathers aboue CouÌ„cels aboue the Church and now at last made him the whole Church in so much that some of his own side are not ashamed to professe Beard Mot. 6. vide in Iewel p. 49. that the Pope may dispense against the Apostles yea against the new Testament vpon good cause and also against all the precepts of the Old Syluester Prierias Master of the Popes palace goeth further hee giues vs to vnderstand that the authoritie of the Roman Church QuicuÌ„que noÌ„ innititur doctrinae Romanae ecclesiae ac Romani Pontificis tanquaÌ„ Regulae Dei infallibili à quâ etiam sacra Scriptura robur trahit et authoritatem hereticê° est Sylu. Prier contra Luther and of the Bishop of Rome is greater then the authoritie of Gods Word and therupon he concludes Whosoeuer leaneth not to the doctrine of the Roman Church and of the Bishop of Rome as vnto the infallible Rule of God of which Doctrine the holy Scripture taketh force and authoritie he is an heretike And for a further confirmation of this beliefe Gretzerus the Iesuite makes this conclusion Id solum pro verbo Dei veneramur ac suscipimus qd nobis Pontifex ex Cathedra Petri c. Def c. 1. l. 1. de Verbo Dei p. 16. Wee doe receiue and reuerence that onely for the Word of God which the Pope as supreame Master of the Christians and Iudge of all controversies doth determine in the Chaire of Peter Now if it happen that some Proselyte of a tender conscience should make some scruple whether the Pope ought to be heard and obeyed when hee is a murderer a Sorcerer and a wilfull subuerter of the truth as some Popes haue been Hosius their Doctour wisheth them not to trouble theÌ„selues with such idle curiosities Iudas ne sit an Petrus au Paulus Deus atteÌ„di non vult sed soluÌ„ hoc qd sedet in Cathedrâ Petri de cuius ore legem requirere iussus est Hoc soluÌ„ spectari vult Hos in Confess Petricouien ca. 29. God will neuer haue thee consider saith he whether the Pope bee a Iudas or a Peter or a Paul it is sufficient onely that he sitteth in Peters chaire that hee is an Apostle that he is Christs Ambassadour that he is the Angell of the Lord of Hostes from whose mouth thou art commanded to require the Law This thing onely Christ would haue thee to consider Againe admit a Councel a whole congregation of men should make a doubt whether the Pope may erre and by reason of that scruple would not readily obey him Cardinall Bellarmine by way of preuention Si autem Papa erraret praecipiendo vitia vel prohibendo virtutes teneretur Ecclesia credere vitia esse bona et virtutes malas nisi vellet contra conscientiaÌ„ peccare Bell de Pont. li. 4. c. 5. giues them this lesson If the Pope should so farre foorth erre as to command vices and forbid vertues the Church were bound to beleeue that vices are good and vertues are euill vnlesse shee will sinne against her owne conscience Heere is an implicite faith commanded let the Popes doctrine bee true or false if the Romanists will resigne vp their senses and vnderstanding to this Vertuall Church which is the Pope they shall haue a Priest Cardinall for their Tutors but by their leaue they may make shipwracke of their faith by being their Disciples I proceed from an implicite faith to a blinâ— obedience and therein I will giue you a remarkeable example from another Schooleman who aboue all things doeth honour and commend a blinde obedience to the Church that is to the Pope Gregorie de Valentia tells vs of an Italian Merchant of Placentia who reasoned and resolued with himselfe in this manner I hold it is better to professe the Romane Religion Laurent disceptatio Theolog. pag. 5. then the Lutheran First because I can briefly learne the Roman faith for if I say what the Pope sayes and deny what the Pope denies and if he speake and I hearken vnto him this alone is sufficient for mee but if I should bee a Lutheran I must learne a Catechisme I must search the Scriptures which in trueth I cannot intend when I must look after the Ships of Italy and my Merchandise beyond the Seas You haue heard the reason why this Layman did dislike the Protestants Religion and what was the rule of his Roman faith now heare what iudgement this learned Schooleman giues concerning this Merchant DeuÌ„ nihil habiturum God saieth he will haue nothing to lay to the charge of this man at the dreadfull day of Iudgement To say nothing of this presumption I pray God that Pagans Infidels who knew not Christ arise not vp in Iudgment against them that teach such doctrine for whereas
all men by the Apostles rule should be ready to giue an account of their Faith and must bee iudged by the Word of God this man by not knowing the Scriptures nor the articles of his faith but onely for intending his Merchandise with a blinde obedience and an implicite faith shal be free both from guilt and punishment and no doubt from this general beliefe of the Popes authoritie and infallibilitie the saying of Gregorie the 13. is verified D. 40 Si Papa in Annot. Men doe with such reuerence respest the Apostolicall See of Rome that they rather desire to know the ancient Institution of Christian Religion from the Popes owne mouth then from the holy Scriptures and they onely inquire what is his pleasure and accordingly they order their life and conversation He therefore that will appeale to the Bishop of Rome to Rome let him goe but woe to the Recusants of England other countreys remote from Rome which cannot heare the Church being so farre distant from him nay woe to them at Rome that liue in his Sea for how can they heare him if hee neuer preacheth But withall most miserable is the condition of the hearer notwithstanding he should preach for his owne Cardinall assures vs that if his Holinesse teach not the whole Church Bell lib. 4. de Rom. Pont. lib. 4. cap. 14. hee is in as much possibilitie to erre as Innocent the eight was when hee permitted the Norwegians to celebrate the Eucharist without wine Thus from the multitude of beleeuers which is the Essentiall Church we are sent to the Councell from the Councell which is the Representatiue Church wee are sent to the Pope which is the Virtuall and now at length being arriued at the Pope Consistory his Cardinal giues vs to vnderstand that a man may returne happily as wise as he went but withall intimate◠〈◊〉 vs that there are noâ— oracles â—o infallible doctrine to bee learned from his mouth vnlesse hee will first declare by publike decree that hee intends to preach to the Vniuersall Church Besides how the Vicar of Christ should bee the Spouse of Christ how a particular member of the Church should become a Vniuersall Head of the Church how Papa the Pope anciently a Father should become the Church which is alwayes a Mother it is a mysterie vnsearchable past finding out for sure I am if the Pope be the Church let them pretend whomsoeuer they will for their Father they can haue no Church except Pope Ioane for their Mother It remaineth then that in the next place wee examine the certaintie of that faith which must be learned from the Pope for if the Pope haue not Infallibilitie of Iudgement then is hee not that rule of faith then is he not that Church which is the pillar and ground of truth and consequently miserable is the condition of those poore Christians that relie vpon his opinion as vpon the infallible Doctrine of the Church and first I will proceed to the Popes Succession in doctrine and person compare the doctrine of the ancient Bishops of Rome with the Popes of these later times that thereby wee may discerne whether the Popes Infallibilitie bee priuiledged by his Chaire or whether the ancient Roman faith bee successiuely deriued from the ancient Bishops of Rome to the Popes of these latter ages SECT XX. The Church which is finally resolued into the Pope wants both Personall and Doctrinall Succession as appeares by seuerall instances and exceptions both in matters of fact and matters of faith HOsius the Romanist tels vs for certaine Hos in CoÌ„fess Petricou c. 29. that if we reckon all the Popes that euer were from Peter vntill Iulius the third there neuer sate in his Chaire any Arrian any Donatist any Pelagian or any other that professed any manner of Heresie The reason of this as I conceiue is deliuered by Card. Cusanus Veritas adhaeret Cathedrae vniuersa Catholica Ecclesia ad Petri CathedraÌ„ conglobata à Christo nuÌ„quam recedit Cusan ad Bohem. Epist 2. The trueth cleaueth fast to Peters Chaire the whole vniuersall Catholike Church is rolled vp to Peters chaire shal neuer depart from Christ I wil not take vpon mee to examine the Pope in what Office in what religion in what piece of his life he hath succeeded Peter but that you may know howsoeuer the Popes faith is annexed to the Chaire hee hath errâ—â— and is subiect to error as â—e is Pope I will compare the doctrine of the ancient Bishops of Rome with the faith of the later Popes and the later Popes Decrees and definitiue Sentences with their flat contradictions and contrary Decrees amongst themselues whereby it shall appeare that the later Popes haue not onely erred in disclaiming the decrees of their Predecessours but haue digressed wholly from the ancient Roman Bishops both in faith and manners and withall they want that Infallibilitie that personall and doctrinall Succession which they so much magnifie amongst themselues Anacletus Bishop of Rome in the yeere 103 decreed that after Consecration Dist 1. Episcopus 2. Peracta all present should communicate or else bee thrust out of the Church for so saith hee the Apostles did set downe and the holy Church of Rome obserueth On the contrary at this day it is made lawfull for the Priests to receiue alone the people onely gazing and looking on and withall Pope Iulius the fourth hath decreed in the Councell of Trent Conc. Trid. Canon 8. Sess 22. If any shall say that Masses in which the Priest alone doeth communicate are vnlawfull and therefore ought to be abrogated let him be accursed Leo the Great Bishop of Rome in the yeere 440 speaks of the death of Martyrs in this maner Leo. Epist 81. Although the death of many Saints hath been pretious in the Lords sight yet the death of no innocent person hath beene the propitiation for the world that the righteous receiued crownes but gaue none that of the fortitude of the faithfull haue grown examples of patience not gifts of righteousnesse that their deaths as they were seuerall persons were seuerall to euery of themselues and that none of them by his death paid the debt of any other man because it is only our Lord Iesus Christ in whom all were crucified all dead all buried all raised againe from the dead On the contrarie Haec opinio reprobata est à Pâ—o 5. Pontifice et à Gregorio 13. Bel. de Indul. lib. 1 cap. 40. Pope Pius the 5 and Gregorie the 13 both condemned saith Bellarmine the Diuines of Lovaine and others who defended that the sufferings of the Saints cannot bee true satisfactions but that our punishments are remitted onely by the personall satisfactions of Christ Nay more saith he If the sufferings of Saints may not bee applied to vs to free vs from the punishment due for our sinnes lest they should seeme to bee our Redeemers then certainly wee our selues cannot
that the Pope can do more then God can do for God cannot lye saith the Apostle Howsoeuer the Pope in this is much beholding to this Cardinall for without this exception of sinne the Pope could not haue beene Antichrist since hee must bee The man of Sinne. Neither is this man different in opinion from his fellow Romanists for Cornelius Bitonto pronounced openly in the Councell of Trent Conc. Trid. sub Paulo 3. Orat. Cornel. Ep. Bitont Who will so vniustly weigh things but he will say the Pope is the light that commeth into the world Thus the Cardinal hath equalled him with God the Father excepto peccato and the Bishop hath giuen him the proper attribute of Christ and that an Infallibilitie might be granted him Salmeron the Iesuite proclaimes it for a certaine trueth Tom. 1. prolog 9. princ 5. Can. 1. c. 1. ad Hier. The Lord promised his Spirit to Christs Vicar and the successor of Peter and by his authoritie hee determines all matters of Faith So that from these seuerall assertions wee may confidently affirme that either the Pope hath the Office of the holy Ghost giuen him to leade him into all truth Reuel 13.5 7. or certainly There was giuen vnto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies to make warre with the Saints and to ouercome them First therefore let vs examine vpon what ground the Popes infallibilitie may be prooued and whether it bee receiued as a doubtfull opinion or as an Article of faith Touching the first according to their seuerall fancies Non Cathedra facit SacerdoreÌ„ sed Sacerdos CathedraÌ„ Chrysost the Romanists haue deuised seuerall reasons some pretend that the truth is annexed to the Chaire as if Christ had prayed for his Tribunals Courts Consistories others deriue it from the example of Caiphas who being High Priest by vertue of his office rightly prophecied of Christ and consequently QuaÌ„do Deus voluit etiaÌ„ matuÌ„ immentum rationabilitèr loquutuÌ„ est Nec ideò admoniti sunt homines in deliberationibê° suis etiam Asinina expectare consilia Aug Epist 58. the Pope cannot faile in Iudgement A wittie argument no doubt and available for the Deuill himselfe for by the same reason the Deuil may conclude that he hath also the Spirit of God for he testified of Christ I know thou art Christ the Son of the liuing God Now the Apostle doth witnesse accordingly that No man can say the Lord Iesus but in the spirit of trueth 1 Cor. 12. He therfore that shall reade in the 11. of Iohn that Caiphas did not speake of himselfe but as High Priest was guided by the spirit of prophesie let him take his answere from Saint Matthew Math. 26. that Caiphas himselfe the very same yeere being high Priest did publikely and Iudicially pronounce our Sauiour a blasphemer and I thinke none will say that this iudgement of his proceeded froÌ„ the holy Ghost vnlesse he wil say when the Pope speaketh the truth he doth it vnawares like Caiphas when his heart and purpose was bent to ouerthrow the truth There are others that coÌ„fesse the Pope may erre as man but not as Pope as if his Manhood his Popedome had two capacities and were in two distinct persons Plato a heathen Philosopher did note it as a thing ridiculous that one in his dayes did maintaine Plato de Repub. lib. â—â—thuasm A Magistrate could not erre as Magistrate nor Prince as Prince And their owne Alphonsus à Castro scoffes at the Dominicans Eos non vereri coram â—opulo iactare et dicere qui semel habitum illius Ordinis susceperit non posse in fide errare deficere Alph. lib 1. de haeres cap 9. for that they were wont to brag before the people that those which haue once vsed the habit of their Order could not erre nor faile in faith Shall we say then that this new Diuinitie was learned from some old Philosopher or that the Pope is chosen out of the Order of Dominicans which haue the gift of Infallibilitie Glaber Rodolphus who was liuing in the time of Benedict the Ninth tells vs that Benedict was chosen Pope at ten yeeres olde shall wee say then that this child had infallibilitie and could not erre or must wee beleeue the Trueth was annexed to his Chaire and that he was able to guide the whole Church and direct a whole Councell when hee knew not the principles of Religion Againe what shal we say of hereticall and wicked Popes who haue neither Faith nor Religion If we peruse the Councell of Basil Eugenium contemptorem sacroruÌ„ Canonum pacis et veritatis Ecclesiae Dei perturbatorem notorium c. Conc Basil Sess 34. Baron ann 985. n 1. we shall find Pope Eugenius condemned and deposed for a despiser of the holy Canons a Symonist a forsworne man a man incorrigible a schismatike a man fallen from the faith and a wilfull heretique Boniface the seuenth saith Baronius was a verie villaine a Church-robber a sauage thiefe the cruell murderer of two Popes and the invader of Peters Chaire Iohn the 13 was accused and detected in a Synode of Bishops Sigon reg Ital lib. 7. ann 963. for murders adulteries incests periuries and other vices of all sorts Alexander the sixth Mach. de Princ c. 18. gaue his mind to nothing but villeny and fraud Mart. Pol. ann 986. Platin. in Syluest 2. whereby to deceiue men Syluester the second leauing his Monastery betooke himselfe wholly to the Deuil by whose helpe hee gate the Popedome vpon condition that after his death he should be the deuils both body and soule Must wee beleeue these Popes were guided by the holy Spirit and led into all truth that the trueth was annexed to their Chaire and not to their Persons must wee acknowledge for what vertue wee know not that these Bishops were the Virtuall and totall Church were these the right successors of Peter in faith and doctrine or shall we say they erred as men but not as Popes they erred in their Pallace but not in their Consistorie they erred in matters of fact but not in matters of Faith These things are so groundlesse in themselues that they rather deserue laughter then an answer Aliud stans Aliud sedens they are riddles without sense that a man not a Pope in a stoole not in the Chaire in a company not in a Councel may failâ— and not erre wander but not goe astray misse the trueth but not doe amisse Cardinal Cusanus was so far from the beliefe of this new doctrine that hee ieasted at Pope Eugenius and vnder that pretext derided the Infallibilitie of the Pope Quomodo potest Papa Eugenius dicere hoc veruÌ„ esse si ipse velit et non alitèr Cusan de Concord Cath. lib. 2. cap. 29. How can Pope Eugenius saith heâ— tell this is true if he will haue it so and not otherwise as though the inspiration
and Aquinas Bellarmine tells vs Bellarm. de Euch. lib. 5. cap. 15. They were not carefull of that which is now in question viz. the daily renewed reall sacrificing of Christ Touching Scotus their own Suarez tels vs Suar. in 3. Tho. Euch. disp 5. sect 2. he was to bee corrected for his opinion of the Sacrament Touching Durand Bellarmine professeth That saying of Durand is hereticall Bellar. de Euch. lib. 3. cap. 13. although hee is no heretike because hee is ready to submit to the iudgement of the Church Thus for want of that sure rule of faith which is squared by the Word of God both Priests and people rest doubtfull of the issue and their successe in controuersie 1 Cor. 14.8 and if the Trumpet giue an vncertaine sound who shall prepare himselfe vnto the battell saith the Apostle It is no difficult matter to runne through all ages and all points in difference betwixt vs and to shew that many Priests and Bishops who liued and died members in the Roman Church taught different doctrine from the now Roman faith This way therefore is certainly vncertaine and this was easily discouered by their Superiors insomuch that Stapleton by way of preuention prescribeth this direction for the common people Non quid sed quid loquatur fidelis populus attendere debet Ordinarius Ecclesiae Doctor audiendus est non indicandus Stapl. princ fid doct contr 4 lib. 8. c. 5. 9. They must not intend what is spoken but attend to him that speaketh for hee is to be heard and not iudged And because through such blind obedience and implicit beliefe it might be thought a poore lay man will not bee able to render an account of his faith the Rhemists proclaime it for sound and Catholike doctrine that if an ignorant Papist be conuented before the Commissionere for his Religion he shall appeale onely to the Romane Church and his owne Church shall sufficiently warrant his beliefe Rhem. Annot in Luk. 12.11 He saith enough and defendeth himselfe sufficiently say they when hee answereth he is a Catholike man and that hee will liue and die in that Faith which the Catholique Church throughout all Christian Countreys hath and doeth teach and that his Church can giue a reason of all the things which they demaund of him How poore an Apologie he makes for his Religion that saith he is a Catholike and thinkes to be saued by another mans faith who doeth not vnderstand Saint Peter who is pretended to be the Popes predecessor taught the Catholiques of former ages an other lesson 1. Pet. 3.15 Be ready saith hee alwayes to giue an answere to euery man that asketh you a reason of that hope that is in you with meekenesse and feare But obserue the policie of the Church of Rome they pretend that Ignorance is the Mother of Deuotion and therefore say they it will be sufficient for the lay people to beleeue the Priest and to rest vpon the authoritie of the Church and for that purpose Bellarmine instructeth his Disciples that the learned must labour and search out the mysteries of Religion but the ignorant may sit and take their ease The oxen did plow and labour Roues arabāt et asinae pascebantur iuxta eos docet per boues significari homines doctos per asinas homines imperitos qui simplicitèr credentes in intelligētia maiorum acquiescunt Bell. lib. 1. de Iustif c. 7 saith Gregorie and the asses fed by them By the oxen saith the Cardinall are meant the learned Doctors of the Church by the asses are meant the ignorant people which out of simple beliefe rest satisfied in the vnderstanding of their Superiors I will not applie the Cardinalls illustration for I speak not this out of scorne and disgrace but out of shame and pitie to see the poore ignorant soule not onely abused in the name but in the nature of that thing which concernes the saluation of his soule Canus their owne Bishop of Canaries professeth openly that it was the custome of vnlearned men of Saracens of Pagans of Heretiques Canus loc Theol. lib. 12. cap. 4. to receiue the blind and senselesse opinions of their Sects without iudgement and examination And Espenceus tells vs Espenc in 2 Tim. 3. Num. 17. It was the Colliers faith who being demanded what hee beleeued made answere he beleeued what the Church beleeued and the Church beleeued what hee beleeued Is not this the practise of the church of Rome at this day Are they not fully perswaded that without deepe ignorance of the people it is not possible for their Church to stand doe they not in this point particularly vrge these the like Scriptures Obedience is better then sacrifice Heare the Church The Priests lips preserue knowledge and the like How fitly may I say prophetically doth St. Hierome reflect vpon the Priests of these latter times wherein they chase the people from the Scriptures and suffer them vtterly to know nothing Nolint discipulos ratione aiscutere sed se Praecursores sequi Hier. in Esay lib. 9 cap. 30. These men saith hee challenge vnto themselues such authoritie that whether they teach with the right hand or the left whether they teach good things or bad they will not haue their disciples with reason to examine their sayings but onely for to follow them being their leaders And certainly herein they much resemble the Iewes who as Lyra reporteth had that conceit of their great Rabbies in so much they made it their open profession Respōdendū est quicquid hoc modo proponitur etiamsi dicant dextrā esse sin strā Lyra in Deut. ca. 11. Whatsoeuer they say vnto vs we must needs receiue it yea although they tell vs the right hand is the left And this is the actiue authority the Bishop or Parish Priest doth exercise toward the people and this is the passiue obedience with an implicite faith the people submits vnto the Priest Giue me leaue therefore to speake vnto the Roman Bishop or Parish Priest in the words of St Austen the ancient Father Aug. contr Epist Manich c. 5. Athanas Tom 2 in Serm. contr eos qui iubent simplicitèr credere quae ipsi dicunt Vsque adeò me stultum putas c. Doest thou thinke mee such a foole without reason rendred I should beleeue what you would haue mee and what you dislike I should not beleeue Shall I beleeue without iudgement or reason shall I not inquire nor consider what is what may bee what is profitable what is decent what acceptable to God what sutable to Nature what agreeable to Truth Since then no humane authoritie can bee the Rule of faith since there can bee no certaintie no infallibilitie foūd in any particular Priest or Bishops for particular men may erre I will conclude with that safe and infallible rule which St. Chrysostome gaue to the Christians of his time Let vs not haue the opinions of
where hee was fed with bread and water And hence we may obserue that if the Pope of Rome bee the Virtuall and totall Church if he be that Rule of Faith vpon whose infallibilitie the whole Christian world must relie in matters of beliefe as the Church of Rome teacheth then certainly the Church at this time was driuen into great straights when as the Head of the Church or rather the totall Church fell into dangerous heresie and consequently eminent and perpetuall Visibilitie can be no sure Note of the true Church But as it was rightly obserued by Isidorus Pleasitota the declination of the true Church from the Apostles time was caused through the distemperature of the Head and thereupon hee makes this ingenuous confession Isid lib. 3. Ep. 408. In the dayes of the Apostles and afterwards when the Church flourished and laboured of no disease the diuine Graces of God went as it were in a ring round about it but afterward it grew diseased and was troubled with faction then all those things fled away not through his carelesnesse and negligence that first inriched her but through their naughtinesse that gouerned not things as they should haue done Ann. 600. to 700. In the seuenth Age Iohannes de Molinis tells vs In Speculo Carmelit cap 6. from the time of Heraclius the Emperor after the yeere 600 the day inclined towards the euening and the Church hauing been in an ecclipse set in the West and became almost deficient And Gregorie himselfe complaines Greg. Ep. 4. l. 1. Iud. 9. that the Ship of the Church was in danger of shipwracke Nay more Diabolê° ita valdè in qui busdam necessaris Ecclesiae membris dentes figit vt omne quod absit citius ouile dilaniet Greg. lib. 4. Ep 36 The Devill saith he so strongly fastneth his teeth in the necessarie members of the Church that vnlesse by Gods grace the prouident company of Bishops ioyne together hee will soone destroy the whole flock of Christ Flens dico gemens denuntio I speake it with teares Quia cum Sacerdotis ordo intus cecidit foris diu stare non potuit I tell it with sighs of heart seeing the Order of Priesthood is fallen within it cannot now stand long without The chiefe reason of this complaint was caused by Iohn Bishop of Constantinople who at this time assumed the Title of Vniuersall Bishop and as new Lords are commonly said to make new Lawes so from and after this time many alterations succeeded in Faith and Manners both in Head and members of the same house Thus wee haue heard in the first age The mysterie of iniquitie began to worke In the second there was a conspiracie against the Trueth In the third Heretikes arose and assaulted her In the fourth the Church was darkened by the multitude of Heresies In the fift she was most flourishing in her members but knowne only by the Scriptures In the sixt the Head of the Church was diuided by heresie from the body In the seuenth there was a declination towards the West and consequently there followed a darkenesse and obscuritie more or lesse in succeeding ages Now as you haue heard complaints against heretikes and persecutors that inuaded the ancient Church in her first best ages so likewise you shall obserue there followed corruptions and errours in Doctrine and Discipline whereby Obscuritie became the proper mark of the true Church almost in all ages till the dayes of Luther In the eight Age Paulus Diaconus calls to the Christians of that time to awake and listen vnto him for saith he You haue buried in contempt and obliuion the word of God Wolph Tom. 1.203 you haue made the Temple a denne of theeues and instead of sweet melody you resound blasphemies against God himselfe and therefore verie shortly the vniuersall Catholike Cittie will fall to ground And Venerable Bede calles to them of his time Nec sine lachrymis rem lachrymis dignam coÌ„templeÌ„tur quantuÌ„ Ecclesiae flatus ad petora quotidiè vel vt mitius dicaÌ„ ad infirmiora gereÌ„da deuol uatur Bed ii 4 in Sâ—m cap. 2. p. 30â— to behold the lamentable estate of the Church Neither saith he let them behold it without teares which is worthy to bee lamented in that it is growne worse and worse or to speake more fauourably it is at least fallen into great infirmities And Charles the Great makes this generall complaint touching the doctrine and Doctors of the Church Carolus Magnus de Imag. in Praefat. The Priests laying aside all sound and wholesome doctrine and little regarding that of the Apostle If an Angell preach other doctrine let him be accursed they transgresse the commandements of the Fathers and bring into the Church such doctrine as was neuer knowne to Christ and his Apostles In the ninth Age Arnulphus Bishop of Orleance an eye witnesse of those times professed openly There is made a departure not onely of Nations but of Churches the Man of Sinne now begins to bee discouered Religion is ouerthrowen and the seruice of God is contemned by the chiefe Priests themselues and that which is more Rome it selfe now almost left alone is departed from her selfe Ann. 900. to 1000. In the tenth Age Christ saith Baronius lay asleepe in the Ship of the Church Bar. Tom 10. ann 912 num 8. ann 900. Sect 1. and which is worse there was not any found amongst his disciples who awaked our Lord all of them being in a snorting sleepe It was the age next to that wherein the Deuill was let loose Infaelix dicitur hoc saeculuÌ„ exhaustuÌ„ hominibus ingenio et doctrinâ claris siue etiam claris Princitibus et Pontificibus Geneb Chron. Vbr. 4. That vnhappy age saith Genebrard which was exhausted both of men for wit and learning and of worthy Princes and Bishops In this time saith Wernerus Christian faith began much to decline from her first virilitie when as in many Christian prouinces neither the Sacraments nor Ecclesiasticall Rites were obserued And Ioachim Abbot complaineth Est et alia sicus quae malidictione praeuarâ—cationis exarnit Latina Ecclesia siue nâ—â—icula Petri. Morn c. that the Latin Church was another Fig tree dryed vp which did beare nought else but temporall leaues and bid her selfe vnder the Title of the Church to the shame of the Pope and his Sea In the eleuenth Age Ann. 1000. to 1100. Who will let me see the Church before I dye saith Bernard as in the dayes of olde Bernar in Cant. Serm 33. when the Apostles did cast foorth their Netts not to take siluer and gold but to take soules There creepeth saith hee an ougly Rott at this present through the whole body of the Church yea the wound of the Church is inward and past recouery And a Canonized Saint of the Romish Church Morn de Eccl p â—â—2 Virgo â— Mathilda tells them of that Age The
Church of Rome which of long time did reuolt from Christ secretly was neere revolting from him openly And in the Raigne of Henry the first Ann. 1100. inseratur The Church of Leodium sends forth this complaint In time past I was wont to Interpret Fulke in Rhem. Testam p 892. that Peter by Babylon did signifie Rome because at that time it was confused with Idolatrie and filthynesse but now my sorrow doth interpret vnto mee Plerique omnes boni iuâ—i aperti ingenuâ— simplices tum imperiuÌ„ Antichristi coepisse quod ea quae Christê° seruator no fleâ— tot antè annos praecixerat euenisse teÌ„pore cernebant c. Auent de Tyrannide Pontificis that Peter calling the Church together in Babylon foresaw by the Spirit of Prophecie that confusion of dissention wherwith the Church at this day is rent in peeces And saith Sigebert All good men and iust and honest and ingenious men held that the Kingdome of Antichrist was then begunne because they saw the accomplishment of those things which our Sauiour had so long time foretold In the twelfe Age Ann. 1100. to 1200. Honorius of Authun in France openly cries out Verte te ad ciues Babiloniae et vide veni hâ—c ad supercilii montes vt cuncta possis cernere aed ficia damnatae ciuitatis verte te ad CleruÌ„ et in uenies ibi Bestia tentortum Dei seruitiuÌ„ negliguÌ„t sacerdotium per inunditiam postuunt populum per simulationeÌ„ seducunt omnes Scripturas ad salâ—teÌ„ pertinentes ab dicant c. Honor. August in Dialog de Praedest lib. Arbitr Mat. Paris in Hent 3. Turne thee to the Citizens of Babylon and see what they are ascend to the toppe of the Mountaine from whence thou mayest behold all the buildings of that damned Citie consider the principall persons there and thou shalt find the Sea of the Beast In the Cleargie thou shalt find the Beasts Tent for they neglect the seruice of God pollute his Priesthood seduce his people reiect all the Scriptures which belong vnto Saluation And Mathew Paris describeth the state of the Church of England vnder Gregory and Innocent In those dayes Faith waxed cold and scarsely seemed to sparkle being almost brought to ashes Religion is become base and vile and the Daughter of Sion is a bold faced Harlot without shame He further complaines that the Monkes and Fryars of that Age did wholly neglect the Preaching of Gods Word and for that cause he pretends there was a deuised Epistle sent from Hell to the holy Fraternities Math. Paris in Will Conquer Wherein Sathan and all the company of Hell did s nd thankes to the whole Ecclesiastical Order that wheras in nothing they were wanting to their owne pleasures they suffered by their neglect of Preaching such a number of soules vnder them to go to hell Lat. abbots Bishops p. 383. as no Ages past had seene the like And Robertus Gallus reputed a famous Preacher in those times amongst certaine visions of his owne shewes vs That in those dayes there was scarse any bloud or life remaining in the members of the Church when as the Doctrin which is the soule and life of the Church OrabaÌ„ flexis genibus erecta facie ad coeluÌ„ iuxta Altare Sancti Iacobi Parisiis c Robertus Gallus was altered and decayed I did pray saith hee on my knees with my face towards heauen neere to the Altar at St. Iames at Paris on the right hand and I saw in the ayre before me the body of the onely high Priest clad in white Silken robes and his backe was towards the East with his hands lifted up towards the West Morney Myst of Iniqu pa. 401 or 434. as Priests vsually stand while they say Masse I did not see his head and beholding wishly whether he were altogether without a head or no I saw his head leane and withered as if it had bene all of wood and the Spirit of the Lord said this signifieth the state of the Roman Church Ann. 1200. to 1300. In the thirteenth Age Grosted Bishop of Lincolne complained of many errors in the Church Innocent 4. in Math. Paris in Henr. 3.844 847. 848. and sought for a reformation and for that cause we may read in Mathew Paris the Pope resolued to Excommunicate and accurse him but this Bishop withstood the Popes Bulles and for his courage in that good cause was termed Romanorum malleus the Hammer of the Roman Church neither did hee oppose those abuses alone but the Cardinalls at that time withstood the Pope in his behalfe affirmed that the things wherewith hee charged the Pope were most true and thereupon they answered the Pope it was not safe for him so to proceede lest a tumult should follow especially say they seeing it is knowne there must bee a departure from vs and a forsaking of the Roman See Petrarch who well vnderstood the Doctrine of those times in his Latine Epistles which are full of wisdome and grauitie tells them Noui expertus c. I speake of my knowledge Noui expertus vt nulla ibi pietas nulla charitas nulla fides nulla Dei reuerentia in the Pope and his followers there is neither Faith godlinesse nor Truth the Popes Chaire is the Chaire of lying that is a defection a reuolt an apostacie of people which vnder the Standard of Christ rebell against Christ and fight for Satan they esteeme the Gospell for a Fable and the promises of the life to come for lyes About the same time Michael Cecenas Generall of the Order of Franciscans affirming the different opinions of different Members in the same Church Mich Cecenas contr Tyrannid Papae proclaimeth There were two Churches the one of the wicked sort flourishing in which the Pope raigned the other of godly and good men and this Church he presecuted In the fourteenth Age Ann. 1300. to 1400. Occham a learned Schooleman makes this complaint Alas the time of which the blessed Apostle prophecied when men will not suffer wholesome doctrine c. This Prophecie is altogether fulfilled in our dayes for behold there are many that peruert the holy Scriptures deny the sayings of the holy Fathers reiect the Canon of the Church molest persecute and bring into bondage and without mercy torment and afflict euen vnto death them that defend the trueth so that wee may rightly say of our times Occham procl com err Iohan. 22. that which Daniel long since pronounced Iniquitie is gone from Babylon from the Elders and Iudges which seemed to gouerne and rule the people for many that should bee Pillars in the Church of God and defend the trueth euen vnto blood cast themselues headlong into the pit of Heresies Ann. 1400. to 1500. In the fifteenth Age Gerson the Chancellour of Paris bids you open your eyes Gers declarat defect virorum and see if the Houses of
Nunnes be not Stewes of filthy Harlots if the consecrated Monasteries be not Faires Markets and Innes Cathedrall Churches dennes of theeues Priests vnder pretence of mayds keepe harlots consider whether so great variety of pictures and Images be fit and whether it occasion not Idolatrie in the simple looke vpon the number and varietie of religious Orders the Canonizing of new Saints though there bee too many already as Bridget of Swetia Charles of Britain the feasts of new Saints more religiously kept then those of the blessed Apostles enquire if there be not Apocryphall Scriptures and prayers in processe of time eyther of purpose or of ignorance brought into the Church to the great hurt of the Christian Faith consider the diuersitie of opinions as the conception of Marie sundry other things Againe in his Consolatory tract of Rectifying the Heart amongst many other considerations hee complaineth There is intolerable superstition in the worshipping of Saints innumerable obseruations without all ground of reason vaine credulitie in beleeuing things concerning the Saints report in their vncertain Legend of their liues superstitious opinions of obtaining pardon and remission of sinnes by saying so many Pater nosters in such a Church before such an Image as if iâ— the Scriptures and authentical writings of holy men there were not sufficient direction for all actes of Pietie and Deuotion without these friuolous addititions nay which is worse see if these obseruations in many countreys and kingdomes of the world be not more vrged then the Lawes of God euen as wee shall finde in the Decrees and Decretals a Monke more seuerely punished for going without his Cowle then committing Adultery or Sacriledge and more grieuously corrected in going against one of the Popes Decrees IdeÌ„ de Directione cordis Consid 29. c. then offending against the diuine precepts and the Gospell of Christ This learned Author was Director of the Councell of Constance and there complained of 75 exorbitant abuses and errours that were crept into the Roman Church but found no amendment nay more saith hee Wee must not looke for a Reformation in things that concerne Faith and Religion or doctrine or manners except the Secular powers do seriously take it in hand Experto crede Experto crede c. Idem in Dial Apologetico Beleeue me in what I say I haue tryed it dispute no more of it speake not to deafnesse it selfe thou shalt neuer bee heard Lastly when hee found there was little hope of reducing Religion to the former purity of the Primitiue Church in Christs time yet hee wished at least a restoring of the ancient Faith in the Fathers time Ecclesia si non ad statuÌ„ Christi et ApostoloruÌ„ saltem ad statum Syluestri resti tuenda Gers de Concil Gener vnius obedientiae In diebê° istis in ore cuius libet bonum fuit argumentuÌ„ tenens tam de formâ quaÌ„ materiâ Hic est Frater ergo est mendax Wals Hist Angl. in Rich. 2. p. 281. and saith he If the Church may not bee reformed according to the stateâ— it was in the time of Christ and his Apostles yet at least it should be brought to the state it was in the time of Syluester which was about 300 yeeres after Christ. To let passe the obseruation of Tho. Walsingham that in those dayes it was the common argument in euery mans mouth He is a Fryar Ergo a lyar At this time Aluarez Pelagius wrote a Booke De Planctu Ecclesiae of the Churches complaint wherein hee tells vs The Church which in her Primitiue state was adorned of her Spouse with many royall graces Aluar. de planctu Eccles l. 2. art 5. lit Aleph was clouded and ecclipsed with the blacke mists of ignorance iniquitie and errour In like manner Et prasertim qd magis prodigiosum est Pontificibus qui suas Traditioneâ— diuinis longè mandatis anteponunt Clem. de Corrup Eccles statu ca. 14. 26 Nicholaus Clemangis Archdeacon of Baieux wrote a Booke of the corrupt estate of the Church wherein he complaines The studie of Diuinitie was made a mocking stocke and which was most monstrous for the Popes themselues they preferred their own Traditions farre before the CoÌ„maundements of God What doest thou thinke saith he of the prophecie of the Reuelation of St. Iohn doest thou not thinke that in some sort it belongs to thee thou art not grown so shamelesse as to deny it consider therefore of it and reade the damnation of the Great Whore sitting vpon many waters there contemplate thy worthy actes and thy future fortune Abusiones quoque Paganica superstitiones Diabolica taÌ„ multa Romae qd diuinari benè non possuÌ„t Camer de Squaloribus Rom. Eccles p. 34. Cardinall Cameracensis wrote a Booke De Squaloribus Romanae Ecclesiae touching the Deformitie of the Roman Church which book is to be seene in the Library at Westminster wherein amongst many other complaints touching the Roman Church he tells vs That Pagan abuses and diabolicall superstitions were so many at Rome that they could not well bee imagined Câ—mer de Reform Ecclesiae but saith hee as there were seuen thousand which neuer bowed to Baal so it is to bee hoped that there are some who desire the Churches Reformation and accordingly it happened Consil Pisan Sess 20. for Pope Alexander the Fift in this age and in the yeere 1411 Dixit quod ipse volebat vacare circa reformationeÌ„ Ecclesia c. promised solemnly to intend a Reformation and for that purpose to assemble the most learned of all nations and at the Councel of Senes 1423 the proposition of Reformation was reuiued but withall it was adiourned de die in diem and the Reformation is not yet come In the sixteenth Age Ann. 1500. to 1600. Hieronymus Sauanarola a Dominican by Profession and for his Doctrine and sanctitie of life termed a Prophet was examined with tortures saith Guicciardine for inueying against the Cleargie and Court of Rome Vpon which examination a Proces was publishd to this purpose that he was not moued thereunto out of any euill intent but this one thing he onely respected that by his meanes a Generall Councell might be called wherein the corrupt manners of the Clergie might bee reformed Guicciard lib. 3. in fine and the degenerate state of the Roman Church as farre foorth as was possible might be reduced to the likenes of that it was in the Apostles time or those that were neerest vnto them and if hee could bring so great and so profitable a worke to effect hee would thinke it a farre greater glory then to obtaine the Popedome it selfe Comin lib. 8. cap. 2. And Philip de Comines giues vs likewise to vnderstand that hee told the French King Charles the eight He should haue great prosperity in his voyage into Italy and that God would giue the sword into his hand all this to the ende he should