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A62668 To receive the Lords Supper, the actual right and duty of all church-members of years not excommunicate made good against Mr. Collins his exceptions against The bar removed, written by the author : and what right the ignorant and scandalous tolerated in the church have to the Lords Supper declared : many thing belonging to that controversie more fully discussed, tending much to the peace and settlement of the church : and also a ful answer to what Mr. Collins hath written in defence of juridical suspension, wherein his pretended arguments from Scripture are examined and confuted : to which is also annexed A brief answer to the Antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders / by John Timson ... Timson, John.; Timson, John. Brief answer to the antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders. 1655 (1655) Wing T1296; ESTC R1970 185,323 400

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11._o and_o that_o the_o rather_o it_o seem_v because_o as_o he_o say_v all_o my_o superstructure_n stand_v upon_o the_o foundation_n that_o i_o have_v there_o lay_v page_n 23._o at_o latter_o end_n i_o confess_v i_o judge_v the_o stress_n of_o all_o the_o controversy_n have_v be_v occasion_v upon_o mistake_n of_o the_o apostle_n scope_n &_o sense_n in_o that_o chapter_n and_o therefore_o have_v endeavour_v by_o severa_fw-la query_n upon_o the_o place_n answ_n with_o my_o answer_n to_o they_o conjoin_v pag._n 14_o 15_o 16_o 17._o of_o my_o book_n to_o give_v you_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o place_n which_o i_o hope_v have_v and_o will_v satisfy_v many_o distress_a conscience_n which_o have_v bee●_n perplex_v too_o much_o through_o some_o mistake_n of_o our_o latter_a divine_n former_a age_n an●_n church_n as_o some_o of_o my_o friend_n have_v tok●_n i_o since_o do_v much_o favour_n the_o sense_n that_o have_v give_v of_o the_o place_n and_o it_o seem_v t●_n i_o that_o mr._n collings_n 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to_o make_v difference_n between_o a_o pagan_a and_o a_o christian_n what_o 7.14_o 1_o cor._n 7.14_o do_v he_o forget_v that_o foederal_a holiness_n that_o difference_v the_o clean_a from_o the_o unclean_a he_o query_n whether_o every_o unregenerate_a man_n as_o such_o be_v personal_o unworthy_a he_o believe_v he_o be_v i_o seem_v to_o doubt_v he_o say_v without_o doubt_v that_o there_o be_v no_o personal_a unworthiness_n in_o the_o unregenerate_a in_o the_o church_n simple_o consider_v in_o itself_o answ_n for_o all_o such_o be_v in_o covenant_n relation_n the_o which_o relation_n be_v personal_a they_o be_v a_o consecrate_v people_n to_o the_o lord_n and_o be_v in_o that_o sense_n holy_a in_o opposition_n to_o the_o infidel_n world_n that_o still_o lie_v in_o profaneness_n those_o who_o god_n have_v choose_v to_o bear_v his_o name_n and_o be_v enter_v into_o covenant_n with_o god_n let_v no_o man_n account_v common_a and_o unclea●_n commonize_a such_o a_o call_v profess_v people_n 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