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A50248 A defence of the answer and arguments of the synod met at Boston in the year 1662 concerning the subject of Baptism and consociation of churches against the reply made thereto, by the Reverend Mr. John Davenport, pastor of the church at New-Haven, in his treatise entituled Another essay for investigation of the truth &c. : together with an answer to the apologetical preface set before that essay, by some of the elders who were members of the Synod above-mentioned. Mather, Richard, 1596-1669. 1664 (1664) Wing M1271; ESTC W19818 155,430 150

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be_v a_o holy_a god_n and_o love_v the_o purity_n and_o glory_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n when_o he_o go_v in_o this_o way_n of_o a_o successive_a progress_n of_o the_o covenant_n we_o suppose_v this_o can_v be_v deny_v and_o therefore_o if_o a_o progress_n of_o the_o covenant_n do_v establish_v the_o church_n then_o why_o not_o so_o now_o shall_v we_o think_v that_o the_o holy_a god_n do_v not_o so_o regard_v the_o purity_n of_o his_o church_n in_o those_o time_n and_o therefore_o do_v then_o establish_v the_o church_n in_o this_o way_n which_o now_o he_o will_v not_o do_v as_o be_v now_o more_o careful_a of_o the_o purity_n of_o his_o church_n we_o fear_v that_o to_o say_v this_o will_v be_v to_o the_o dishonour_n of_o god_n holiness_n and_o glory_n and_o plain_o it_o be_v that_o it_o be_v the_o same_o kingdom_n of_o god_n that_o be_v the_o same_o church-estate_n for_o substance_n and_o kind●_n which_o be_v take_v from_o the_o jew_n and_o give_v to_o the_o gentile_n mat._n 21.43_o and_o therefore_o the_o gentile_n be_v say_v to_o be_v fellow-he●rs_a and_o of_o the_o same_o body_n with_o they_o ephes._n 3.6_o and_o therefore_o what_o shall_v hinder_v but_o that_o if_o a_o progress_n of_o the_o covenant_n be_v a_o mean_n to_o establish_v the_o church_n then_o it_o may_v be_v the_o same_o in_o ●hese_fw-mi 〈◊〉_d also_o the_o synod_n have_v say_v in_o the_o conclusion_n of_o their_o five_o argument_n for_o confirm_v this_o five_o proposition_n that_o the_o more_o holy_a reform_v and_o glorious_a that_o the_o ●●m●s_n be_v or_o shall_v be_v the_o more_o eminent_o be_v a_o successive_a continuation_n and_o propagation_n of_o the_o church_n therein_o design_v promise_a and_o intend_v and_o have_v for_o this_o allege_v these_o scripture_n isa._n 60.15_o &_o
set_v down_o for_o the_o substance_n of_o they_o as_o it_o seem_v he_o do_v by_o what_o he_o say_v pag._n 52._o why_o shall_v it_o be_v think_v a_o dangerous_a matter_n to_o agree_v thereunto_o for_o the_o substance_n thereof_o we_o have_v indeed_o find_v in_o our_o experience_n much_o good_a and_o benefit_n by_o communion_n of_o church_n as_o the_o reverend_a author_n acknowledge_v pag._n 58_o 61._o and_o his_o acknowledgement_n thereof_o we_o glad_o accept_v but_o we_o have_v also_o find_v that_o the_o want_n of_o ready_a agreement_n timous_o to_o attend_v and_o exert_v the_o act_n of_o communion_n have_v hazard_v the_o peace_n and_o wellbeing_a of_o sundry_a church_n and_o expose_v they_o to_o great_a trouble_n we_o do_v not_o desire_v by_o our_o propose_a consociation_n to_o add_v any_o thing_n to_o the_o communion_n of_o church_n but_o only_o a_o vigorous_a and_o timous_a exercise_n thereof_o 3._o that_o we_o express_o disclaim_v the_o subject_n of_o a_o church_n unto_o any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n whatsoever_o propos._n 1._o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v strange_a that_o the_o reverend_a author_n shall_v put_v that_o upon_o the_o consociation_n by_o we_o intend_v that_o it_o be_v a_o subject_n of_o church_n under_o classical_a jurisdiction_n pag._n 59_o it_o be_v not_o the_o bare_a consent_n or_o mutual_a agreement_n of_o church_n but_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o thing_n consent_v to_o as_o viz._n the_o power_n they_o agree_v to_o be_v state_v under_o that_o make_v it_o a_o classical_a combination_n or_o put_v those_o church_n under_o a_o classical_a jurisdiction_n what_o though_o the_o voluntary_a combination_n mention_v by_o by_o mr._n rutherfurd_n in_o his_o sense_n do_v infer_v a_o classical_a membership_n and_o jurisdiction_n sure_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o we_o do_v so_o when_o as_o we_o express_o disclaim_v it_o but_o be_v it_o true_a that_o wherever_o there_o be_v a_o voluntary_a combination_n of_o church_n they_o become_v a_o 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power_n which_o christ_n have_v leave_v to_o his_o church_n but_o only_o it_o serve_v to_o direct_v and_o promote_v the_o same_o 4._o let_v the_o reader_n please_v to_o peruse_v and_o consider_v the_o reverend_a author_n eleven_o and_o twelve_o premise_v position_n pag._n 6_o 7_o 8._o and_o compare_v they_o with_o what_o the_o synod_n have_v publish_v touch_v consociation_n of_o church_n and_o we_o suppose_v he_o will_v find_v such_o a_o agreement_n between_o they_o as_o that_o he_o will_v wonder_v as_o we_o do_v to_o see_v the_o reverend_a author_n appear_v as_o a_o antagonist_n in_o this_o matter_n it_o seem_v strange_a that_o brethren_n shall_v be_v willing_a to_o contend_v both_o where_o they_o do_v differ_v and_o where_o they_o do_v not_o also_o it_o may_v be_v consider_v how_o many_o reflection_n here_o be_v upon_o we_o as_o if_o we_o will_v cast_v a_o snare_n upon_o church_n by_o straighten_v they_o in_o the_o use_n and_o exercise_v of_o their_o church-power_n within_o themselves_o in_o re_fw-la propria_fw-la as_o if_o we_o will_v absolute_o bind_v church_n not_o to_o administer_v censure_n within_o themselves_o etc._n etc._n for_o which_o nothing_o publish_v by_o the_o synod_n do_v give_v any_o just_a occasion_n and_o whereas_o mr._n cotton_n be_v represent_v as_o be_v against_o our_o consociation_n pag._n 60.61_o let_v his_o print_a word_n be_v view_v in_o the_o key_n pag._n 54_o 59_o his_o solemn_a speech_n of_o it_o to_o sundry_a be_v remember_v and_o his_o draught_n of_o it_o a_o little_a before_o his_o death_n be_v consider_v and_o the_o reader_n will_v see_v whether_o he_o can_v join_v in_o belief_n with_o the_o reverend_a author_n about_o that_o matter_n the_o lord_n guide_v we_o by_o his_o spirit_n into_o all_o truth_n and_o help_v we_o to_o follow_v the_o truth_n in_o love_n finis_fw-la it_o be_v no_o very_o good_a sign_n of_o truth_n when_o there_o be_v many_o curious_a nice_a &_o dark_a distinction_n use_v to_o defend_v a_o thing_n 〈…〉_z eneru._n tom._n 2._o l._n 6._o cap._n 5_o quest_n ult_n and_o his_o fresh_a suit_n par_fw-fr 1._o pag._n 63_o 83_o 134_o 138._o vid._n rivet_n in_o genes_n 17.14_o ames_n medul_a lib._n 1._o cap._n 41._o thes._n 7._o 7._o his_o word_n be_v these_o any_o such_o notorious_a offender_n have_v name_v atheist_n mocker_n of_o religion_n witch_n idolater_n papist_n may_v have_v the_o essence_n and_o be_v of_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o visit_v ●e_n to_o wit_n in_o this_o sense_n a_o corrupt_a and_o rot_a member_n fit_a to_o be_v cut_v off_o a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n though_o former_o a_o in_o offensive_a professor_n of_o the_o faith_n may_v afterward_o fall_v away_o into_o any_o of_o these_o notorious_a scandal_n and_o yet_o for_o a_o while_n still_o retain_v the_o essence_n and_o be_v of_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o visible_a to_o wit_n till_o the_o church_n have_v orderly_o proceed_v against_o he_o otherwise_o the_o church_n shall_v want_v power_n to_o proceed_v to_o the_o excommunication_n of_o such_o a_o notorious_a delinquent_n for_o what_o have_v the_o church_n to_o do_v to_o judge_v man_n without_o 1_o cor._n 5.12_o but_o such_o within_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v cast_v out_o 1_o cor._n 5.11_o 5.11_o eadem_fw-la eeclesia_fw-la &_o pie_n habet_fw-la secum●●●_n forma_fw-la ●_o interat●●_n ad_fw-la se_fw-la pertinentes_fw-la &_o impy_v atque_fw-la hypocritas_fw-la se_fw-la undùm_fw-la extenam_fw-la adnascentes_fw-la jun._n animad_fw-la in_o bellarm_n p._n 1113._o 1113._o it_o may_v afford_v parker_n a_o argument_n as_o to_o manifestarii_fw-la peccatores_fw-la the_o notorious_o wicked_a that_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n but_o as_o excrementitious_a thing_n be_v purge_v out_o by_o the_o vigorous_a use_v of_o discipline_n as_o he_o there_o discourse_n but_o it_o touch_v not_o our_o question_n ●oll_n eneru._n tom_n 2._o lib._n 2._o cap._n 1._o 1._o calvin_n opuscul_n pag._n 346._o cartwright_n catech_n pag._n 185._o 185._o disciplina_fw-la subjacent_a omn●s_n in_o unitate_fw-la frae_n trum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d oblajante_a us●●al_n senem_fw-la rat._n discipline_n pag._n 71._o 71._o contradictio_fw-la caret_fw-la simpliciter_fw-la omni_fw-la medio_fw-la keck_n log._n pag._n 281._o hooker_n survey_v pag._n 17._o catabaptistae_fw-la decent_a non_fw-la posse_fw-la excommunicationem_fw-la in_o ecclesiam_fw-la reduci_fw-la nisi_fw-la ij_o baptizentur_fw-la qui_fw-la scientes_fw-la jugo_fw-la christi_fw-la collum_n submittant_fw-la bucer_n in_o joh._n fol_n ●5_n see_v mr._n cotton_n express_o hold_v forth_o excommunication_n to_o be_v applicable_a to_o such_o as_o the_o child_n in_o question_n in_o holiness_n of_o church-member_n pag._n 57_o 57_o medul_a lib._n 1._o cap._n 32._o thes._n 13._o and_o see_v cap._n 40._o thes._n 6_o 10_o 11_o 12_o 16_o 18._o and_o m._n shepherd_n late_o print_v letter_n pag._n 16_o 17._o 17._o catech._n explic_a in_o ●uast_o 81._o pag._n 426._o 426._o aim_n medul_a lib._n 1._o cap._n 38._o thes._n 41._o 41._o the_o scripture_n order_n be_v to_o ●ake_v the_o circumcise_n of_o the_o child_n part_n of_o the_o parent_n fitness_n for_o 〈◊〉_d passover_n and_o for_o admission_n hereunto_o let_v all_o his_o male_n be_v circumcise_v and_o then_o let_v he_o come_v 〈◊〉_d and_o keep_v it_o exod._n 12.48_o ra●●er_o than_o to_o make_v his_o admission_n to_o 〈◊〉_d passover_n a_o pre-requisite_a to_o 〈◊〉_d child_n circumcision_n gerhard_n de_fw-fr sacra_fw-la c●na_fw-la p._n 184._o 184._o see_v ratio_fw-la disciplina_fw-la fratrum_fw-la bobem_fw-la in_o hist._n praemissa_fw-la p._n 3_o 3●_n &_o 39_o ●3_n 52_o 53._o opuscul_fw-la pag._n 37._o syntag._n theolog._n pag._n 1149._o with_o pag_n 1167_o 1168._o 1168._o lec_n com._n de_fw-fr can●_n dom._n quaest_n 2._o pag._n 631._o 631._o 〈◊〉_d 137._o p●g_n 7●_n &_o vid._n quaest._n 142._o pag._n 743._o 743._o de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la quaest._n 33_o &_o 34._o pag_n 624_o 625._o see_v the_o leyden_n divine_v synops._n dis●ut_o 45._o thes._n 14._o &_o disput._n 48._o thes._n 35_o 36._o co●p●red_a with_o d●sput_n 44._o thes._n 50._o 50._o quaest._n &_o resp._n ●●_o sa●ramentis_fw-la quaest._n 120_o 122._o 122._o ibid._n quaest._n ●45_n syntag._n lib._n 6._o cap._n 36._o with_o cap._n 55._o 55._o vid._n dutch_n annot._n on_o 1_o cor._n 11.26_o 11.26_o de_fw-fr sacra_fw-la 〈◊〉_d pag_n 18●_n 18●_n de_fw-fr baptism_n pag._n 581_o 582._o 582._o explicat_fw-la catech_n in_o quaest_n 74._o pag._n 372_o 372_o in_o quaest_n 75._o pag._n 380._o 380._o so_o much_o parker_n learned_a labour_n among_o other_o show_v and_o our_o congregational_a brethren_n in_o england_n meet_v at_o the_o savoy_n in_o their_o preface_n do_v well_o express_v and_o see_v beverly_n examen_fw-la hoornb_n pag._n 43._o 43._o consider_v whether_o it_o be_v not_o a_o great_a detract_n from_o the_o sacredness_n of_o baptism_n when_o we_o make_v but_o a_o light_a matter_n of_o that_o membership_n and_o covenant_n that_o be_v seal_v therein_o if_o man_n have_v be_v once_o admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n they_o count_v their_o membership_n stand_v firm_a &_o good_a through_o all_o decay_n and_o degeneracy_n until_o excommunicate_v but_o the_o solemn_a covenant_n &_o engagement_n between_o god_n and_o the_o baptise_a that_o be_v ratify_v in_o holy_a baptism_n wear_v away_o and_o be_v a_o kind_n of_o forget_a thing_n by_o that_o time_n they_o become_v adult_n to_o be_v difficult_a in_o admission_n unto_o baptism_n and_o yet_o easy_a in_o let_v go_v the_o benefit_n of_o baptism_n or_o the_o membership_n thereby_o seal_v and_o to_o allege_v the_o sacredness_n of_o the_o ordinance_n for_o the_o former_a and_o forget_v in_o the_o latter_a seem_v not_o well_o to_o cohere_v 〈…〉_z lib._n 1._o ●_o p._n ●2_n examen_fw-la h●ornb_n pag._n 20._o 20._o it_o be_v not_o the_o qualification_n of_o one_o in_o full_a communion_n but_o his_o membership_n that_o give_v his_o child_n right_a to_o baptism_n for_o suppose_v he_o decay_v in_o qualification_n and_o grow_v formal_a and_o loose_a yet_o while_o he_o continue_v a_o member_n uncensured_a he_o have_v his_o child_n baptize_v as_o well_o as_o the_o best_a in_o the_o church_n act_n 8.27_o 28_o 36_o 37._o &_o 10._o ●_o 22_o 47_o 48._o chemnit_fw-la in_o mat._n 3.6_o 3.6_o holin_n of_o church-member_n pag._n 41._o b●nè_fw-la auten_v 〈◊〉_d nos_fw-la in_o genere_fw-la de_fw-la ii●_o omnibus_fw-la qui_fw-la ex_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la noscuntur_fw-la &_o f●e_fw-la deris_fw-la formula_fw-la indefinita_fw-la jub●●_n &_o cha●ita●_n monet_fw-la bez_n quast_o de_fw-fr sacram._n ●●_o 123._o 123._o de_fw-fr polit._n eccles._n lib._n 3._o pag._n 168_o 169._o 169._o de_fw-fr polit._n eccl._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 29._o &_o lib._n 3._o pag._n 167._o protestat_fw-la before_o treat_v of_o the_o cross._n cross._n de_fw-fr polit._n lib._n 3._o pag._n 171._o 171._o ibid._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 13._o &_o 14._o &_o lib._n 3._o pag._n 166._o and_o of_o the_o cross_n cap._n 9_o sect_n 2._o holiness_n of_o church-member_n pag_n 92._o 92._o medul_a lib._n 1._o cap._n 40._o thes._n 13_o 13_o magdeb_n cent._n 3._o pag._n 83._o 83._o sicut_fw-la ergo_fw-la tempere_fw-la illius_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la de_fw-fr c●●cumcison_fw-fr qui_fw-fr nasceretur_fw-la circumcide●dus_fw-la ●ait_fw-fr sic_fw-la nune_fw-la de_fw-la baptizato_fw-la qui_fw-la n●tus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la baptizandus_fw-la est_fw-la august_n tom_fw-mi 7._o cont_n pelag._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 25._o see_v also_o tom._n 2._o epist._n 23._o ad_fw-la bonifacium_fw-la &_o epist._n 75._o ad_fw-la auxilium_fw-la and_o de_fw-fr grat._n &_o lib._n arbitr_n cap._n 22._o 22._o ame●_n medul_a lib._n 1._o cap._n 40._o ●hes_n ●_o ●_o ground_n and_o end_n of_o infant-baptism_n p._n 28_o 29._o prov._n 14_o 28._o psa._n 110.3_o 110.3_o see_v essay_n first_o pag._n 13_o 4._o in_o exam_n of_o prop._n 4._o
59.21_o ezek._n 37.25_o 28._o psal._n 102.16_o 28._o jer._n 32_o 39_o the_o reverend_a author_n apply_v all_o these_o very_a text_n to_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n under_o the_o new_a jerusalem_n which_o church_n he_o say_v must_v consist_v for_o the_o matter_n of_o it_o of_o elect_a and_o sincere_a believer_n only_o both_o they_o and_o their_o child_n successive_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n for_o which_o he_o allege_v the_o text_n aforementioned_a pag._n 33._o ans._n it_o be_v free_o grant_v that_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n when_o they_o shall_v be_v call_v and_o convert_v shall_v be_v very_o holy_a and_o glorious_a and_o yet_o it_o may_v be_v question_v whether_o that_o church_n shall_v have_v none_o in_o it_o but_o only_o elect_v and_o sincere_a believer_n both_o they_o and_o their_o child_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n for_o when_o christ_n shall_v come_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o church_n though_o it_o be_v compare_v to_o 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