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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A17036	An ansvvere to Master Cartvvright his letter for ioyning with the English Churches: whereunto the true copie of his sayde letter is annexed.	Browne, Robert, ca. 1550-1633.; Cartwright, Thomas, 1535-1603.; Harrison, Robert, d. 1585?, attributed name.	1585 (1585)	STC 3909; ESTC S109433	77,571	102

the name of God figured the visible Church of god so that this matter toucheth M. C. very neerely For if it be true that as all sacrifices then so all sacraments now are rebellion against the Lord being ministred without the visible Church of God then that sinne which he calleth a fault shalbe found to be more then a fault euen rebellion falling away from the Lord. And this is a sinne of execration euen abomination in the eies of the Lord to measure the visible church of god by a compasse of ground by a nuÌ„ber of housholdes by slint of tythes tenthes as we see in our parishes For the place maketh not the church neither is the church or true religioÌ„ to be measured by the place as Christ him selfe teacheth vs for neither in the mountaine where the father worshipped neither yet at Ierusale the citie of god was God any more to be worshipped but the true worshippers shall worship the father in spirit truth By which words Christ meaneth thus much first that the spirit trueth being shewed by the outward good profession declare the outwarde Church of God and not the places neither temples nor cities nor parishes For in whome we see the spirit that is the graces of the spitit by their outward good works and the trueth that is the lawes and word of Christ which is true to be kept obserued them only we must call the Church of God And therefore in Isaiah it was shewed beforeâ— that with those only which turne from iniquitie in Iacob will the Lord make his couenant euen his spirite which is vpon them and his words which he hath put in their mouth Secondly by those wordes Christ teacheth that al the Iewish ceremonies shuld be abolished because the chiefest euen Ierusalem and the Temple should be no more For the temple at Ierusalem circumcision were the chiefest How great the citie and the Temple were it appeareth by that prayer of Salomon 1. Kinges 8. 29. And by sundry other places Deuteronom 12. 11. Ierem. 3. 17. Ezek. 43. 7. c. And of circumcision Paul reasoneth with the Galatians That if they be circumcised they are bounde to keepe the whole ceremoniall lawe for it being one of the chiefest ceremonies if they still obserued it they should also obserue all the rest but if they reiected the chiefest they should also reiect all the rest And to that ende Christ reasoneth that seeing all things are nowe to be verified in spirit and trueth therefore all ceremoniall and superstitious worship shoulde cease As also Paul reasoneth That if they be led by the spirit they are not vnder the ceremonies of the lawe So then it appeareth that tithings because they were ceremonies belong not to the Church And because such abomination is committed by them namely the due planting and gathering of the church is hindred and the libertie of the Church for remouing euil ministers stopped they are euen the execrable things which Achan did steale For if the common wealth as it ought had long agoe taken from the ministerie those tenthes and Popish liuings then Iericho being once destroyed I meane the Antichristian churches once put downe had not so soone bene built againe but nowe such tythings benefices and Bishoprickes remaining they haue builded by them an other Iericho in steade of the first in deede somewhat differing from the first but as contrary to Gods church and holy citie as was the first yea and Master Cartwright also wil iustifie that execrable stealth of Achan and call Iericho I meane those woefull assemblies and Parishes the visible church and citie of God But cursed be the man before the Lord saith Ioshua that riseth vp and buildeth againe this citie Iericho he shall lay the foundation thereof in his eldest sonne in his yongest sonne shall he set vp the gates of it Satan is that enuious and malitious man which hath builded againe this citie his eldest sonnes were the first beginners of this lamentable state whome God did afterwarde scourge and cal to repentance in the time of Queene Marie and brake their enterprise and his youngest sonnes are these latter reformers whome God also will certainely plague except they repeÌ„t But to come againe to Master Cartwrights proofe let him not say that we count any assembly whether they haue a dumbe minister oâ— haue none to be the outwarde Churches of God except they keepe the couenant by the outwarde discipline and gouernement of the Church Further Master Cartwright saith that in such assemblyes the dumbe minister is not chiefe but Christ and that wee make nothing of the dumbe minister and yet will needes haue him to be the head of those Churches Indeede we make nothing of him concerning any goodnes that is by him for he helpeth nothing thereto but concerning the mischiefe and hurt which he doeth or the sinne that is by him let him not say wee make nothing of it For if they be beastes as it is written so that by their want of vnderstanding and conscience the flockes of the pastour be scattered and perish shall we say it is nothing If they be those foolish shepheardes whome the Lorde saith by Zecharie he will raise vp in iudgement to sell and to slay the sheepe to eate the flesh of the fat and to teare them in pieces which also shall not looke for them that are lost nor seeke the tender lambes nor heale that is hurt nor feede them but rather feede them selues vpon their flesh shall we make nothing of such ministers But go to he sayeth that Christ is the head of those assemblyes and not the dumbe ministers That Christ is their head or fouÌ„dation he can not prooue as was shewed before wherefore for any thing he can prooue the dumbe ministers in the absence of the Bishops and their officers are the chiefe and heades ouer them That they are alwayes chiefe we saide it not for when the Bishoppes which are greater vsurpers are present then they are heades and both the dumbe ministers and hireling preachers may serue well ynough to bee the tayle For Satan hath all wayes by such as by the taile of the dragon drawing the third part of the starres of heauen and cast them to the earth What shall we vnderstande by heauen but the shewe of the church as it were set in heauen by the starres but the children of the church falling to wickednes and loosing their light Such are the people of those assemblies whom Satan hath cast vpon the earth as starres â—out light He bringeth another proofe by Corah and his company For they saith he were not cast foorth of the lords host by Moses therefore should not these assemblyes also which haue a dumbe minister thrust vpon them be reputed for runnegates from the Lorde well let vs see was not in deede Corah with those that claue to him put apart from the hoste

things is described the ioy of Dauid in that Psalme namely That the people should go into the house of the Lorde that their feete shoulde stande in the gates of Ierusalem and that there were thrones set for iudgement Nay sayeth Master Cartwright the houses fayre buildings did figure the Church of God and the walles did figure discipline only This is his owne dreame euen an imagination of his owne head For not the houses of the city did figure the spirituall house of God or his citye but the Temple Neyther was the city without the walles any figure but onely by the walles And therefore doth Nehemiah say in the seconde Chapter That he woulde builde the Citie because hee meant to builde the walles of the Citie But let Master Cartwright remember himselfe and shewe any place in the worlde that is called a city and yet hath not the walles of a City Or an orcharde garden or close so called without a hedge a wall or some safe inclosing of fensing Are a clump of fruite trees called an orcharde yf they stande open in the fielde without any fence or is a fayre piece of grasse grounde named a close if it be not enclosed So by his owne vayne reason he ouerthroweth him selfe And wheras he sayeth that after their returne from Babylon the Citie is called the Citie of the great king euen before the walles were builded what proofe bringeth he for that It is called a city indeede by Nehemiah but a destroyed and waste Citie hee meaneth that it had bene a Citie but nowe is destroyed and waste and he saith he would builde the citie not that it was nowe a citie for then it had bene buylded to his hande but the vse of speach is that where a city hath bene to call the place and the ruinous heape of stones by the name of the Citie And so in Ezra before their returne from Babylon The Heathen King Cyrus calleth the place of Ierusalem by the of Ierusalem yet was neither the people of God there nor the Temple of God Yea Zion was plowed like a fielde and Ierusalem was an heape and the mountaine of the house was as the high places of the forest And being in that case it figured rather the desolation of the spirituall Ierusalem which in the Reuelation is called Sodome and Aegypt and howe then could it be the City of God saue onely in Name for that it had bene so Likewyse his descantyng about a vineyarde is against himselfe For there can be no yarde or court except it haue the walles or fence of a yarde or count and so where no yarde is there may be vynes growing but there can bee no vineyarde And so where discipline is wanting there may be some graces of God appearing as knowledge and an outwarde subiection to mens lawes and to Magistrates yea there may be Gods secrete elect children and an outwarde false shewe of religion and deuotion and yet no true shewe nor face of an outwarde and visible Church of God Nowe Master Cartwright commeth to that poynt concerning the dumbe minister of whome as he so wee also haue spoken before But here he prooueth the Sacraments ministred by such to be Gods Sacraments and that men may receiue them lawfully His proofes are like wynde blowen out of a bladder he myght rather laugh at them him selfe then offer them to others to take viewe of his folly His first proofe is they are ministers but no lawfull ministers and they are ministers though they be Idol mynisters therefore he concludeth that though they be Idoles and vnlawfull ministers yet wee may heare thenâ— and receyue the Sacraments of them He confesseth them to bee vnlawfull and Idol ministers and yet their ministration or mynisterie must be good and lawfull This is as much as if one shoulde condemne a theefe and iustifie hys theft For if they be not messengers nor ministers from Christ then their message and ministerie is not from Christ but from the deuill For these be coniugates an vnlawfull minister and his vnlawfull ministerie a messenger from the diuell and his message from the diuell a wicked man to be abhorred and his wickednes to be abhorred Euen so it must needes followe that a minister being vnlawfull and of the diuell his action and deedes of ministration are vnlawfull and of the deuill And so the Lorde reasoneth that the people shoulde not heare the prophets that prophecied peace vnto them for he had not sent nor commanded them as who say because they were vnlawfull messengers therefore their message also was vnlawfull and to be refused But Master Cartwright sayeth that though they bee vnlawfull messengers and Ministers not of God yet their message and ministerie is of god For it is not a false or euil message or ministerie as was that of the false prophetes but good and necessarie for the Churche For that that is of Christ sayeth he is good and by their ministerie they giue vs that that is of Christ hee meaneth the Sacramentes and their reading of Common seruice And so hee concludeth that they are Ministers of good thinges Yea and hee addeth a further distinction that to vs they are ministers of god but to them selues or in respect of them selues they are vnlawfull ministers Surely these are trimme distinctions to carrye him blyndefolde hee can not tell whether For whether will hee wander in his vanities or howe many deuelish doctrines will hee heape vp together First hee sayeth they are vnlawfull ministers and yet ministers of god then that they are ministers of god but not lawfull ministers of god Thirdly that they haue their calling and allowaunce by the Church and yet are thrust vpon the Church Fourthly that eyther such dumbe ministers and theyr ministerie is of GOD or if they bee of the Diuell yet if the Bishoppe and his officers doe authorize them then the Churche doeth authorize them and noe man ought to refuse them Fiftely that their reading of seruice is to bee heard as being a good thing from christ sixtly that their sacraments are to bee receiued as good thinges from Christe Whereby also it followeth that Christe doeth sende such dumbe or blynde reading ministers to take charge of the people also that for a neede reading ministers may bee in the Churche in steade of preaching ministers Further that the Byshoppes maye thrust vpon the flocke what Ministers they lyst and giue them that authoritie and calling which God can not giue them Also that the people shall bee counted Gods people and Churche though they bee vnder the deuilles messenger and subiect to his guyding Howe vngodly and foolishe doctrine is all this and yet hee heapeth much more vnto it before his letter bee ended It is written that the Lorde is ryghteous in all his wayes and holy in all his workes If then anye Minister bee of God howe shall he bee an vnlawfull minister or if he bee vnlawfull howe

An ansvvere to MaSTER CARTVVRIGHT HIS LETTER FOR IOYNING with the English Churches whereunto the true copie of his sayde letter is annexed Ye are deceiued not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God Matth. 22. 29. Search the Scriptures for in them ye thinke to haue eternall life and they are they which testifie of me Iohn 5. 39. Let euery one that calleth on the Name of Christ depart from iniquitie 2 Tim. 2. 19. And these things that I say vnto you I say vnto all men watch Marke 13. 37. Imprinted at LONDON TO THE CHRISTIAN READER GRACE AND PEACE from God the Father and from the Lord Iesus Christ c. DEARELY beloued in the truth you haue in this booke an answere to an answere written vnto Master Harrison at Middleborough by Master Cartwright vpon occasion of controuersie betweene them concerning the true spouse of Christ or his ordinarie visible Churches in Englande And it is thought good to put this aunswere before the saide aunswere of Master Cartwright And although the godlywise and such as haue onely the glorie of God before their eyes and his pure Religion and seruice together with the saluation of their brethren will easily perceiue the reasons and causes yet least anye might take offence in this offence in this behalfe it is though meete to shewe some The first reason therefore is this Our corrupt nature is more prone and readie to imbrace the errour of man then the trueth of God Another cause was for that our vntowardenesse is so great that if an vntrueth be once receiued it worketh such a preiudice in the heades and mindes of men that they will heare neither God his worde neither reason or argument to the contrary be it neuer so good and effectuall A thirde cause mooued to place this answere first for that it shoulde bee an occasion vnto the Reader to vse more diligent conferring of this aunswere with the other for the better discerning and finding out of the trueth in this controuersie It is not necessarie that any man interpose his iudgement at this tyme but to attende by prayer the good euent which God will giue for the further manifestation of his trueth and abolishing of the contrary Nowe these fewe lynes are thought in this matter sufficient least it might seeme to foreiudge any trueth in either of these answeres or else by accepting of persons to foster corruption or a lye in any thing set foorth in the Name of the Lorde It is expedient therefore that the scriptures be faithfull searched by the godly Reader to see whether these thinges be euen so or not For no man that feareth God is ignorant of the doctrine of our Sauiour christ that whosoeuer breaketh the least of the commaundements of God and teacheth men so is least in the kingdom of heauen Neither yeâ— of this generall vniuersal doctrine of god his word true repentance vnfeined faith with amendment of life to be necessarie vnto saluation But it is said before these fewe things suffice Therefore the faithfull Reader is to be commended to the grace of God for his further direction in this behalfe farewell deare brother in the Lord. AN ANSVVERE TO MASTER CARTWRIGHT HIS LETTER FOR ioyning with the English Churches Whereunto the true Copie of his saide Letter is annexed AS there be alwayes both friendes and enemies to the Church of God so some doe giue their handes vnto it as friendes and some being enemies will giue it their left hande of friendshihpe to turne it cleane out of the way Howe friendly Master Cartwright is to it let vs examine by this his Letter and by the grace of God let vs trie out the trueth betwixt him and vs his letter is in many mens handes and was seene abroade vnsealed and open as if he cared not who shoulde reade it wherefore I may the more boldely answere it and the rather because the matter thereof is publike and pertaining to the Church of God It came but lately to my handes and was written as they tell me more then fiue or sixe weekes agoe wherein if he and others that prouoke him sought not to take vs tardie in the trueth and to worke vs trouble we would the lesâ—e haue regarded his letters but seeing he will needes make vs enemies to the common and ordinarie good lawes of the Realme to the Church of god in the Realme and to the peace and welfare of the common wealth Let vs answere his cauilles and for so much as we haue so small respite of time let vs shortly gather vp his vntrueths and errours and hurle them out by manifest knowen markes least any man doe beleeue them as trueth Master Cartwright doeth mooue the first question thus That the outwarde profession made by the lawes of the lande and the assemblyes of the Church helde accordingly are condened as vnlawfull this is the short saith he of M. Harrisons loÌ„ger discourse if he vse to make such shorts he is not meete to deale with short or with long Let him lappe vp his shortes in his budget and not sende them abroade in steade of our lengths or larger syse For at the first brunt he would set against vs all these enemies 1. The lawes of the lande 2. The outwarde profession by the lawes 3. The apparant Churches of Christ 4 and the lawfull assemblyes thereof First for the lawes he knewe well ynough what Lawes we meane namely certaine Popish Cannon lawes which though the Magistrates doe tollerate for a time yet the common good lawes of the lande are wholy against them Wherefore let him not deale doubly with vs as hauing our true meaning in his heart to fumble out of his mouth or to shuffle vp in his letter a contrary meaning we know that the lawes doe punish all outward grosse wickednesse or suffer it to be punished as namely Idolatrie forswearing vsurping of Lordshippe rebellion murther fleshly filthinesse theft oppression raylings grieuous slanders drunkennes c. and if there be any vice not punishable by the lawe yet the lawes doe suffer either the Church or euery housholder or gouernour to correct so it be not against lawe such as are vnder their charge So then the lawes are a wall to the Church rounde about they stande vp for it as an armed man that it may shewe it selfe openly without shame or feare For when they put downe all outwarde grosse wickednesse and will not suffer it they doe as it were scatter and driue awaye darkenesse from the Church that men may see it visible and cleare as the Sunne Likewise for the outwarde profession by the lawes Master Cartwright woulde playe at handie dandie with vs and yet not giue vs that hand which we doe choose for there is an outwarde profession after the olde Popish traditions and orders let him holde this profession in his left hande and there is a profession more syncerely by some after some better Lawes and Orders this he shoulde houlde in his

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