Selected quad for the lemma: religion_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
religion_n	church_n	england_n	reform_a	4,212	5	9.5265	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A86003	Male audis or An answer to Mr. Coleman his Malè dicis. Wherein the repugnancy of his Erastian doctrine to the word of God, to the solemne League and Covenant, and to the ordinances of Parliament: also his contradictions, tergiversations, heterodoxies, calumnies, and perverting of testimonies, are made more apparent then formerly. Together with some animadversions upon Master Hussey his Plea for Christian magistracy: shewing, that in divers of the afore mentioned particulars he hath miscarried as much, and in some particulars more then Mr Coleman. / By George Gillespie, minister at Edinbrugh. Published by authority.	Gillespie, George, 1613-1648.	1646 (1646)	Wing G754; Thomason E317_16; ESTC R200545	44,904	65

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minister_n who_o work_n shall_v be_v only_o to_o preach_v the_o word_n and_o weekly_o meet_v in_o school_n of_o divinity_n here_o be_v a_o double_a contradiction_n to_o the_o ordinance_n of_o parliament_n for_o in_o the_o direction_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o commons_o for_o choose_v of_o rule_v elder_n and_o speedy_a settle_n of_o presbyterial_a government_n it_o be_v appoint_v that_o roll_a elder_n shall_v be_v member_n both_o of_o class_n and_o synodical_a assembly_n together_o with_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n again_o the_o ordinance_n about_o suspension_n of_o scandalous_a person_n from_o the_o sacrament_n appoint_v other_o work_n to_o class_n beside_o preach_v and_o dispute_v namely_o the_o receive_n and_o judge_v of_o appeal_n from_o the_o congregational_a eldership_n mr._n coleman_n in_o maledicis_fw-la pag._n 12._o profess_v that_o he_o exclude_v rule_v elder_n from_o church_n government_n yet_o he_o can_v hardly_o be_v ignorant_a that_o as_o the_o parliament_n have_v vote_v that_o many_o particular_a congregation_n shall_v be_v under_o one_o presbyterial_a