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A67437 The history & vindication of the loyal formulary, or Irish remonstrance ... received by His Majesty anno 1661 ... in several treatises : with a true account and full discussion of the delusory Irish remonstrance and other papers framed and insisted on by the National Congregation at Dublin, anno 1666, and presented to ... the Duke of Ormond, but rejected by His Grace : to which are added three appendixes, whereof the last contains the Marquess of Ormond ... letter of the second of December, 1650 : in answer to both the declaration and excommunication of the bishops, &c. at Jamestown / the author, Father Peter Walsh ... Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. Articles of peace.; Rothe, David, 1573-1650. Queries concerning the lawfulnesse of the present cessation. 1673 (1673) Wing W634; ESTC R13539 1,444,938 1,122

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may_v upon_o the_o same_o ground_n exempt_v such_o minister_n from_o secular_a iudicatories_n the_o answer_n be_v that_o the_o reason_n be_v vain_a first_o because_o we_o know_v that_o no_o man_n be_v bind_v to_o be_v a_o clerk_n not_o even_o albeit_o the_o pope_n shall_v elect_v or_o appoint_v he_o for_o clerkship_n or_o which_o be_v that_o i_o mean_v that_o it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o pope_n power_n to_o fix_v on_o this_o or_o that_o mere_a layman_n and_o force_n or_o command_v he_o to_o clerkship_n at_o least_o to_o such_o clerkship_n as_o have_v so_o many_o burden_n annex_v to_o it_o by_o the_o positive_a canon_n of_o the_o church_n only_o although_o i_o confess_v it_o be_v in_o the_o pope_n power_n as_o belong_v proper_o to_o his_o office_n to_o choose_v out_o of_o the_o whole_a number_n of_o such_o as_o free_o offer_v themselves_o who_o he_o shall_v think_v fit_a and_o have_v these_o order_v and_o appoint_v minister_n of_o the_o church_n second_o because_o we_o know_v and_o that_o 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delegate_a other_o or_o sit_v himself_o alone_o or_o with_o other_o in_o judgement_n on_o this_o cause_n of_o cecilian_a a_o bishop_n the_o other_o excuse_n of_o baronius_n tom_n 3._o a_o 316._o n._n 58._o be_v no_o less_o vain_a and_o frivolous_a than_o his_o former_a pretence_n for_o now_o he_o say_v that_o constantine_n yield_v to_o or_o admit_v of_o such_o unlawful_a unjust_a appeal_n to_o the_o end_n the_o schismatic_a donatist_n be_v so_o in_o all_o tribunal_n overcome_v shall_v at_o last_o desist_v from_o that_o cause_n and_o be_v ever_o after_o quiet_a and_o the_o african_a church_n so_o then_o divide_v by_o schism_n may_v be_v sometime_o again_o unite_v in_o peace_n and_o concord_n and_o because_o he_o think_v africa_n can_v otherwise_o hardly_o be_v continue_v under_o the_o roman_a empire_n be_v so_o powerful_a a_o faction_n as_o that_o of_o the_o donatist_n do_v shake_v the_o african_n already_o as_o to_o their_o allegiance_n ut_fw-la sic_fw-la victi_fw-la say_v he_o speak_v 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particular_a that_o the_o politic_a rule_n of_o some_o worldly_a prince_n for_o govern_v or_o contain_v their_o people_n in_o obedience_n can_v excuse_v a_o pious_a prince_n if_o the_o true_a liberty_n of_o the_o church_n be_v hurt_v by_o the_o practice_n of_o such_o and_o i_o say_v moreover_o it_o be_v very_o strange_a that_o baronius_n a_o priest_n and_o a_o cardinal_n priest_n shall_v admit_v here_o of_o such_o politic_a reason_n of_o constantine_n or_o rather_o in_o and_o for_o constantine_n against_o ecclesiastical_a immunity_n which_o yet_o himself_o maintain_v all_o along_o also_o here_o to_o have_v be_v usurp_v upon_o and_o unjust_o hurt_v by_o such_o procedure_n of_o constantine_n yea_o notwithstanding_o that_o pretence_n of_o danger_n in_o africa_n in_o his_o five_o tome_n a_o 400._o n._n 41._o he_o himself_n praise_n and_o perhaps_o just_o too_o praise_v the_o vigour_n and_o piety_n of_o st._n john_n chrysostome_n in_o dissuade_v the_o emperor_n arcadius_n from_o grant_v to_o to_o gainas_n the_o arian_n rebel_n that_o only_o one_o church_n which_o he_o desire_v for_o the_o people_n of_o his_o sect_n within_o constantinople_n theodoret._n l._n 5._o c._n 32._o albeit_o the_o emperor_n be_v otherwise_o and_o vehement_o too_o incline_v as_o consider_v the_o power_n of_o gainas_n and_o suspect_v he_o aim_v at_o the_o empire_n and_o therefore_o pray_v chrysostome_n consent_n for_o give_v he_o that_o one_o church_n to_o try_v if_o that_o will_v lessen_v the_o rage_n of_o gainas_n for_o he_o be_v already_o in_o the_o head_n of_o a_o army_n but_o all_o be_v in_o vain_a for_o chrysostome_n will_v not_o be_v move_v but_o whether_o this_o be_v in_o the_o case_n rather_o too_o much_o rigour_n then_o true_a vigour_n in_o chrysostome_n according_a to_o prudential_a maxim_n and_o pious_a too_o i_o leave_v other_o to_o judge_v i_o be_o sure_a other_o good_a churchman_n and_o even_o great_a bishop_n have_v also_o in_o our_o own_o age_n and_o some_o former_a too_o consent_v to_o the_o give_v away_o from_o catholic_n to_o protestant_n and_o to_o the_o use_n of_o protestant_a minister_n and_o their_o divine_a service_n not_o one_o church_n only_o but_o some_o hundred_o if_o not_o thousand_o of_o church_n in_o germany_n france_n flanders_n etc._n etc._n and_o this_o also_o for_o ever_o and_o even_o by_o public_a article_n of_o pacification_n and_o i_o be_o sure_a also_o if_o this_o be_v not_o lawful_a and_o i_o mean_v in_o point_n of_o conscience_n or_o of_o god_n law_n i_o see_v not_o how_o caholicks_n live_v under_o the_o dominion_n of_o protestant_a prince_n or_o state_n now_o at_o present_a in_o europe_n may_v with_o any_o colourable_a argument_n of_o reason_n urge_v the_o restore_n or_o bestow_v on_o themselves_o some_o or_o any_o of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v at_o present_a and_o have_v be_v so_o long_o in_o the_o possession_n and_o make_v use_v of_o by_o protestant_n minister_n and_o bishop_n for_o these_o prince_n state_n minister_n bishop_n and_o their_o protestant_n people_n must_v at_o least_o for_o the_o generality_n of_o they_o be_v suppose_v to_o hold_v the_o roman_a religion_n and_o rite_n to_o be_v profanation_n of_o those_o church_n as_o chrysostome_n hold_v of_o the_o arrian_n religion_n and_o rite_n so_o that_o until_o they_o be_v convince_v that_o the_o present_a roman_a religion_n and_o rite_n be_v the_o true_a ancient_a and_o true_a rite_n of_o the_o true_a christian_a apostolic_a church_n or_o that_o their_o own_o religion_n or_o rite_n be_v false_a no_o man_n will_v be_v able_a to_o persuade_v that_o be_v to_o convince_v they_o by_o reason_n it_o may_v be_v safe_a in_o point_n of_o conscience_n for_o they_o to_o permit_v free_o in_o their_o own_o dominion_n where_o they_o can_v otherwise_o avoid_v it_o the_o use_n of_o any_o church_n to_o roman_a catholic_n if_o i_o say_v chrysostome_n just_o and_o prudent_o speak_v not_o according_a only_o to_o his_o opinion_n but_o according_a to_o the_o verity_n of_o thing_n in_o themselves_o deny_v his_o own_o consent_n to_o the_o emperor_n arcadius_n for_o give_v that_o one_o church_n in_o constantinople_n to_o the_o arrian_n at_o that_o time_n or_o in_o that_o conjuncture_n and_o deny_v it_o just_o and_o prudent_o i_o mean_v still_o upon_o that_o only_a account_n of_o be_v against_o conscience_n or_o against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n other_o politic_a and_o wise_a consideration_n he_o may_v have_v have_v indeed_o as_o i_o believe_v he_o have_v and_o as_o i_o believe_v also_o whether_o he_o have_v or_o not_o he_o advise_v that_o herein_o which_o he_o think_v most_o pious_a but_o such_o concern_v we_o not_o here_o as_o no_o more_o do_v this_o whole_a instance_n itself_o nor_o any_o part_n of_o it_o but_o only_o to_o argue_v ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la out_o of_o baronius_n himself_o against_o himself_o and_o to_o show_v that_o if_o chrysostome_n be_v praise_v worthy_a for_o choose_v rather_o to_o let_v the_o whole_a empire_n nay_o the_o whole_a 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nothing_o in_o this_o whole_a procedure_n or_o any_o other_o of_o judge_a churchman_n in_o criminal_a cause_n and_o such_o dangerous_a variance_n but_o what_o become_v and_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o a_o pious_a prince_n who_o carry_v the_o sword_n and_o minister_n vindicative_a justice_n for_o by_o actual_a and_o effectual_a instance_n to_o appease_v the_o tumult_n of_o the_o very_a sacerdotal_a order_n and_o to_o assume_v the_o protection_n of_o the_o faith_n peace_n and_o tranquillity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o force_v also_o when_o necessary_a the_o churchman_n themselves_o to_o live_v in_o peace_n among_o themselves_o and_o with_o other_o be_v part_n of_o this_o princely_a royal_a and_o imperial_a duty_n i_o say_v nothing_o here_o of_o john_n the_o meletian_a bishop_n or_o of_o those_o many_o other_o egyptian_a bishop_n command_v and_o actual_o send_v by_o constantine_n to_o exile_n of_o who_o baronius_n tom_n 3._o a_o 336._o n._n 16_o 17._o but_o forasmuch_o as_o baronius_n say_v ibid._n n._n
say_v theodorecus_n l._n 2._o c._n 9_o 10._o maximè_fw-la omnium_fw-la caepit_fw-la clamare_fw-la orare_fw-la imperatorem_fw-la ut_fw-la de_fw-la iniquo_fw-la indignoque_fw-la ejus_fw-la facinore_fw-la non_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la concilio_n sed_fw-la pro_fw-la tribunali_fw-la judicium_fw-la quaeratur_fw-la seque_fw-la pollicetus_fw-la primum_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la clericos_fw-la qui_fw-la facinoris_fw-la conscij_fw-la erant_fw-la supplition_n coercendos_fw-la traditurum_fw-la stephani_fw-la quoque_fw-la ministros_fw-la ait_fw-la eodem_fw-la medo_fw-la puniendos_fw-la esse_fw-la at_o cum_fw-la stephanus_n petulanti_fw-la ore_fw-la illis_fw-la contradiceret_fw-la affirmaretque_fw-la plagas_fw-la non_fw-la infligendas_fw-la esse_fw-la clericis_fw-la placuit_fw-la imperatori_fw-la &_o magistratibus_fw-la ut_fw-la quaestio_fw-la de_fw-la facto_fw-la in_o regius_fw-la haberetur_fw-la ad_fw-la hunc_fw-la modum_fw-la ergo_fw-la intellecta_fw-la stephani_fw-la improbitate_fw-la primum_fw-la 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the_o real_a execution_n of_o both_o sentence_n that_o be_v the_o actual_a and_o corporal_a expulsion_n of_o stephen_n from_o antioch_n nor_o be_v it_o material_a to_o object_v here_o that_o constantius_n be_v a_o arrian_n for_o the_o arrian_n bishop_n stand_v as_o much_o for_o the_o immunity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o churchman_n and_o so_o do_v the_o arrian_n prince_n advise_v by_o they_o as_o any_o catholic_n bishop_n or_o prince_n do_v when_o the_o crime_n object_v be_v not_o diversity_n in_o religion_n and_o this_o crime_n of_o stephanus_n be_v a_o mere_a lay_v crime_n and_o consequent_o a_o crime_n that_o by_o the_o very_a law_n of_o even_a constantine_n the_o great_a himself_o nay_o and_o of_o all_o other_o catholic_n prince_n after_o he_o and_o after_o constantius_n his_o arrian_n son_n for_o many_o hundred_o of_o year_n and_o even_o too_o by_o the_o very_a express_a law_n of_o justinian_n himself_o so_o long_o after_o constantine_n and_o constantin_n be_v even_o when_o commit_v by_o any_o ecclesiastic_a whosoever_o to_o be_v try_v and_o judge_v by_o the_o civil_a judge_n that_o be_v by_o the_o praetor_n of_o the_o province_n but_o however_o this_o matter_n be_v of_o constantius_n whether_o he_o be_v then_o a_o down_o right_a arrian_n or_o not_o albeit_o this_o be_v not_o material_a as_o i_o have_v now_o prove_v i_o be_o sure_a his_o brother_n emperor_n constans_n who_o rule_v in_o the_o west_n be_v ever_o a_o zealous_a consubstantialist_n and_o orthodox_n in_o all_o preciseness_n and_o yet_o our_o often_o mention_v athanasius_n bishop_n of_o alexandria_n and_o paulus_n bishop_n of_o constantinople_n be_v depose_v from_o their_o see_v by_o other_o bishop_n and_o have_v their_o refuge_n to_o he_o that_o be_v to_o this_o emperor_n constance_n in_o the_o west_n he_o at_o their_o instance_n and_o earnest_a petition_n and_o even_o in_o a_o cause_n mere_o ecclesiastical_a but_o for_o the_o relief_n of_o innocency_n oppress_v wrongful_o send_v letter_n to_o his_o say_a brother_n constantius_n wherein_o as_o socrates_n write_v l._n 2._o c._n 12._o and_o sozom._n l._n 3._o c._n 9_o he_o signify_v his_o pleasure_n that_o three_o bishop_n be_v send_v from_o the_o east_n to_o give_v he_o a_o account_n of_o the_o cause_n why_o athanasius_n and_o paulus_n have_v be_v depose_v nay_o and_o threaten_v otherwise_o or_o if_o the_o say_v athanasius_n and_o paulus_n upon_o account_n give_v be_v find_v to_o have_v be_v unjust_o depose_v and_o shall_v not_o be_v restore_v again_o to_o make_v war_n on_o constantius_n which_o to_o avoid_v constantius_n send_v he_o narcissus_n the_o cilician_n theodorus_n the_o thracian_a maris_n the_o chalcedonian_a and_o marcus_n the_o syrian_a four_o bishop_n as_o after_o also_o when_o constans_n be_v not_o satisfy_v with_o the_o cause_n which_o these_o four_o bishop_n allege_v he_o actual_o restore_v paulus_n and_o athanasius_n though_o for_o a_o time_n only_o for_o he_o again_o banish_v they_o in_o which_o procedure_n of_o constance_n i_o believe_v our_o very_a antagonist_n will_v not_o have_v the_o confidence_n to_o say_v there_o be_v any_o usurpation_n be_v that_o such_o religious_a orthodox_n bishop_n as_o this_o paul_n and_o athanasius_n and_o so_o rigid_o observant_a as_o they_o of_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n be_v his_o author_n and_o petitioner_n to_o reassume_v the_o judgement_n of_o themselves_o albeit_o in_o a_o cause_n pure_o ecclesiastical_a or_o which_o only_a or_o at_o least_o chief_o concern_v a_o spiritual_a sentence_n of_o deposition_n of_o two_o bishop_n from_o their_o episcopal_n see_v pronounce_v against_o they_o by_o a_o council_n of_o other_o bishop_n but_o whether_o our_o say_a antagonist_n will_v or_o not_o pretend_v therein_o any_o usurpation_n i_o be_o sure_a the_o matter_n of_o fact_n be_v true_a as_o i_o be_o sure_a also_o that_o even_o natural_a reason_n itself_o will_v force_v they_o to_o confess_v there_o be_v a_o supreme_a right_n in_o constans_n to_o relieve_v by_o all_o due_a mean_n oppress_a innocy_n and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o way_n so_o ready_a just_a and_o equitable_a as_o this_o which_o he_o take_v valentinianus_n a_o catholic_n emperor_n also_o shall_v make_v up_o the_o four_o of_o those_o instance_n of_o prince_n to_o our_o purpose_n for_o he_o condemn_v by_o his_o own_o imperial_a sentence_n bishop_n chronopius_fw-la to_o the_o silver_n mine_n for_o have_v appeal_v from_o a_o ecclesiastical_a sentence_n of_o 70_o other_o bishop_n l._n 2._o quorum_fw-la appel_n c._n theod●s_o and_o force_v he_o according_o to_o suffer_v it_o by_o go_v to_o and_o labour_v in_o the_o say_a mine_n the_o very_a same_o valentinian_n punish_v by_o diverse_a banishment_n the_o bishop_n vrsicinus_n gaudentius_n vrsus_fw-la ruffus_n and_o several_a other_o bishop_n too_o because_o their_o schysme_n trouble_v the_o public_a peace_n and_o tranquillity_n jure_fw-la mansuetudinis_fw-la nostrae_fw-la sensibus_fw-la say_v he_o vel_fw-la divinitus_fw-la 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the_o very_a ecclesiastic_n themselves_o if_o they_o disturb_v that_o peace_n or_o tranquillity_n gratianus_n the_o emperor_n likewise_o in_o all_o point_v orthodox_n as_o the_o darling_n of_o s._n ambrose_n however_o only_o a_o catechumen_n banish_v on_o the_o same_o account_n the_o bishop_n instantius_fw-la salvianus_n and_o priscillianus_n and_o banish_v they_o not_o only_o out_o of_o their_o episcopal_a see_v or_o city_n wherein_o and_o whereof_o they_o be_v bishop_n but_o out_o of_o all_o country_n subject_n to_o he_o though_o after_o be_v ill_o advise_v he_o
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second_o and_o this_o holy_a praelat_n so_o i_o confess_v also_o that_o if_o in_o any_o of_o those_o particular_n or_o in_o altogether_o my_o grand_a thesis_n or_o any_o part_n of_o my_o doctrine_n hitherto_o in_o pursuance_n of_o that_o my_o thesis_n may_v be_v find_v and_o that_o it_o be_v clear_a also_o that_o st._n thomas_n of_o canterbury_n suffer_v death_n therefore_o and_o be_v therefore_o canonize_v a_o martyr_n by_o the_o pope_n and_o as_o such_o be_v therefore_o venerate_v and_o invocate_v ever_o since_o or_o at_o any_o time_n by_o the_o catholic_n church_n then_o i_o must_v consequent_o grant_v the_o objection_n to_o be_v very_o well_o or_o at_o least_o very_o probable_o ground_v as_o no_o man_n can_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v syllogistical_o form_v or_o deny_v the_o conclusion_n to_o follow_v of_o necessity_n if_o both_o the_o premise_n be_v certain_o true_a and_o for_o the_o first_o of_o they_o we_o have_v already_o see_v it_o pretty_a well_o drive_v home_o at_o least_o by_o 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