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A52036 An answer to a booke entitvled An hvmble remonstrance in which the originall of liturgy, episcopacy is discussed : and quares propounded concerning both : the parity of bishops and presbyters in Scripture demonstrated : the occasion of their imparity in antiquity discovered : the disparity of the ancient and our moderne bishops manifested : the antiquity of ruling elders in the church vindicated : the prelaticall church bownded / written by Smectymnvvs. Smectymnuus.; Milton, John, 1608-1674. 1641 (1641) Wing M748; ESTC R21898 76,341 112

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conformable_a to_o the_o heathen_a magistrate_n both_o these_o historian_n relate_v the_o sad_a consequence_n that_o follow_v upon_o this_o that_o orestes_n the_o roman_a governor_n see_v his_o power_n much_o weaken_v by_o the_o bishop_n interpose_v in_o secular_a affair_n 19_o
the_o french_a church_n who_o in_o their_o confession_n speak_v thus_o credimus_fw-la veram_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la gubernari_fw-la debere_fw-la ea_fw-la politia_fw-la quam_fw-la dominus_fw-la noster_fw-la jesus_n christus_fw-la sancivit_fw-la ita_fw-la videlicet_fw-la ut_fw-la sint_fw-la in_o ea_fw-la pastor_n presbyteri_fw-la sive_fw-la seniores_fw-la &_o diaconi_fw-la ut_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la puritas_fw-la retineatur_fw-la etc._n etc._n ar._n 29._o credimus_fw-la omnes_fw-la pastor_n ubicunque_fw-la collocati_fw-la sunt_fw-la cádem_fw-la &_o aequali_fw-la potestate_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la esse_fw-la praeditos_fw-la sub_fw-la uno_fw-la illo_fw-la capite_fw-la summoque_fw-la &_o solo_fw-la universali_fw-la episcopo_fw-la jesu_fw-la christo_fw-la art_n 30._o gallicae_n confessionis_fw-la credimus_fw-la veram_fw-la hanc_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la debere_fw-la regi_fw-la ac_fw-la gubernari_fw-la spirituali_fw-la illâ_fw-la politiâ_fw-la quam_fw-la nos_fw-la deus_fw-la ipse_fw-la in_o verbo_fw-la svo_fw-la edocuit_fw-la it_o a_o ut_fw-la sint_fw-la in_o ea_fw-la pastor_n ac_fw-la ministri_fw-la qui_fw-la pure_a &_o concionentur_fw-la &_o sacramenta_fw-la administrent_fw-la sint_fw-la quoque_fw-la seniores_fw-la &_o diaconi_fw-la qui_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la senatum_fw-la constituant_fw-la ut_fw-la his_fw-la veluti_fw-la mediis_fw-la vera_fw-la r●ligio_fw-la conservari_fw-la hominesque_fw-la vitiis_fw-la dediti_fw-la spiritualiter_fw-la corripi_fw-la &_o emendari_fw-la possint_fw-la tunc_fw-la enim_fw-la ritè_fw-la &_o ordinate_a omne_fw-la siunt_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la cum_fw-la viri_fw-la fiddle_n &_o pii_fw-la ad_fw-la ejus_fw-la gubernationem_fw-la deliguntur_fw-la juxta_fw-la divi_z pauli_n praescriptum_fw-la 1_o tim._n 3._o confes._n belgic_a art_n 30._o caeterum_fw-la ubicunque_fw-la locorum_fw-la sunt_fw-la verbi_fw-la dei_fw-la ministri_fw-la eandem_fw-la atque_fw-la aequalem_fw-la omnes_fw-la habent_fw-la tum_fw-la potestatem_fw-la tum_fw-la 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