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A47851 Dissenters sayings the second part : published in their own words, for the information of the people : and dedicated to the Grand-jury of London, August 29, 1681 / by Roger L'Estrange. L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704. 1681 (1681) Wing L1245; ESTC R2228 59,550 94

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of our Estates I iberties and Consciences Burroughs to the Commons Sep. 7. 1641. P. 40. 16 I profess that I cannot Expecta Complete deliverance from these and other like Oppressions but by the Extirpation of the Frame of Prelatical Government Ash to the Commons Mar. 30. 1642. P. 61. 17 The Violence that is done to me and my Flesh be upon thee O Papacy shall the Inhabitants of Ireland say And my Bloud upon Thee O Prelacy shall England say Newcomen to the Commons Nov. 5. 1642. P. 38. 18 Prophane sons of Belial the Clergy who like Ely's Sons made the People Abhor the Offering of the Lord. Love Ian. 30. 1644. P. 18. The two Plague-Sores Episc pacy Common-Prayer-Book P. 22. Episcopacy Iure Diabolico P. 28. 19 The Church Committed to Persons Illiterate and Insufficient Dumb Dogs Men swallowed up with wine and strong Drink whose Tables are full of Vomit and Filthyness Whoremongers and Adulterers who as fed Horses neigh after their Neighbours wives Priests of Baal Bacchus and Priapus Sons of Belial c. Whites first Century Epistle to the Reader 20 Of all the Nations that have Renounc'd the Whore of Rome there is none in the world so far out of Square as England in retaining the Popish Hierarchy Epist. before the Demonst. 21 The English Prelacy is the Product of proud Ambition and Arrogancy and Contrary to the Express Command of Christ. Baxters 5. Disputations P. 45. 22 Bishops are Thorns and Thistles and the Military Instruments of the Devil Baxters Concord P. 122. 23 Prelacy is a Government which Gratifieth the Devil and wicked men 5 Disputations P. 36. Contrary to the word of God and Apostolical Institution Ibid. P. 51. Against the will of Christ and the wellfare of the Churches Ibid. Pref. 16. 24 Your Churches bear with Drunkards Whoremongers Railers Open Scorners at Godlyness 5 Disputations P. 37. The most Ungodly of the Land are the forwardest for your ways You may have almost all the Drunkards Blasphemers and Ignorant haters of Godliness in the Country to Vote for ye 5. Disp. Pref. P. 17. to the Adherers to Prelacy 25 What is this Prelacy A mere Anti-Christian Encroachment upon the Inheritance of Christ. D. Owen Thanksgiving Sermon Oct. 24. 1651. P. 5. 26 They the Episcopal Clergy are as zealous for Crosses and Surplices Processions and Perambulations reading a Gospel at a Cross-way the Observation of Holy days the Repeating of the Litany or the like Forms in the Common Prayer the Bowing at the Name of the word Iesus while they Reject his Worship the Receiving of the Sacrament when they have no Right to it and that upon their Knees as if they were more Reverent and Devout then the true Laborious Servants of Christ with a Multitude of things which are only the Traditions of their Fathers I say they are as zealous for these as if Eternal Life Consisted in them Where God forbids them there they are as forward as if they could never do enough and where God Commands them there they are as backward to it yea as much against it as if they were the Commands of the Devil himself And for the Discipline of Christ though all parts of the world have much opposed it yet where hath it been so fiercely and Powerfully resisted The Lord Grant that this Harden'd willfull Malitious Nation fall not under that Heavy Doom Luke 19. 27. But those mine Enemies which would not that I should reign over them bring them hither and Slay them before me Baxters Saints Rest. Part 3. P. 91. 27 If the Parliament should hereafter see a Convenience in Prelacy for this Kingdom were not this Oath then Prejudicial either to the Parliaments Liberty or the Kingdoms felicity This Objection Supposes that the most Wicked Anti-Christian Government may be a Lawfull Government in Point of Conscience Coleman at St. Margarets Westminster upon Entring into the Covenant Sep. 29. 1643. P. 37. 28 Who cannot witness the Superstitious abuse of Englands Liturgy Superstitious say I nay Idolatrous What was by the Smectymnuan Episcopo-Mastix alledg●…d of the Liturgy twenty year ago I doubt is verify'd of it still Ierubaal Ridivivus P 22. 1663. 29 The Church of England Evidently Declare themselves Limbs of Anti-Christ Therefore there is no Communion to be kept with such in their Publique worship Vindicia Cultus Evangelici 1668. P. 39. 30 The Ministry of the Church of England is False Superstitious and Idolatrous therefore it is Unlawfull for the People of God to Joyn in it Ibid. P. 42. The Persons Performing the Publique worship in the Church of England are no Officers appointed by Christ but an Anti-Christian Ministry such as Design'd the Ruine of Godlyness and Idolaters Ibid. 31 I mean to make the Godly Reader see the distress and Danger we were Plunged in by the Nefarious Plots of Iesuiticall Priests and Perfidious Prelates for I may most Justly link them together like Simeon and Levi brothers in Iniquity Combining and Complotting to reduce us to the accursed Romish Religion Vicars Iehovah Iireh P. 6. 32 How comes it to pass that in England there is such Encrease of Popery Superstition Arminianism and Prophaneness more then in other Reformed Churches Doth not the Root of these Disorders proceed from the Bishops and their Adherents being forced to hold Correspondency with Rome to uphold their Greatness and their Courts and Canons wherein they Symbolize with Rome and whether it be not to be feared that they will rather consent to the bringing in of Popery for the Upholding of their Dignities then part with their Dignities for the Upholding of Religion Smectymnuus P. 66. 33 The Prelates Late Canonsand Oath purposely contrived for the perpetuating of their Hierarchy and their other Treacherous Endeavours against the State joyning with the Papists and with them labouring to bring all into Confusion hath helped thus far toward the taking them away Root and Branch Marshall to the Commons Iune 15. 1643. P. 19. The Roman Emperors wasted the Saints in Ten several Persecutions but all these were nothing in Comparison of this Destroyer all their loins not so heavy as the little finger of Anti-Christ Ibid. P. 25. 34 We may answer all Queries about the Reign of Christ thus the Blind begin to have their Eyes Unseal'd the Lame do walk at Liberty Proud ones are abas'd the Mighty ones are put from their Seats Errors Discountenanc'd Truths Enquir'd after Ceremonyes and Superstitions are cast out Monuments of Popery and Paganil●…i cast down Caryl to the Commons April 23. 1644. P. 35. 35 Never were there Grosser Idols in Rome then those things as they were used by some and what is abus'd by Superstition ought not to be retain'd Sedgwick I●…n 6. 1643. P. 33. 36 Such a Generation of men there were amongst us that by Complyances with Idols and Idolatry went about to Drive God away and what Consistence can there be between the Ark and Dagon between God and Idols Strickland No. 5. 1644. P. 32.
you Who Oppresses you Where is the least shew of Oppression or Cause of Complaint Minister'd to you except it be because you are not suffer'd to oppress your Brethren Can you feed upon nothing but Bloud yea the Bloud of your Brethren that though you have every thing else you so complain of sorrow and Oppression Is this your sorrow and Oppression that you cannot Oppress Pulpit-Incendiary 1648. P. 45. P. 3 Our Sectaries in their Sermons Prayers Pamphlets Discourses Petitions all cry out of Persecution and accuse the Orthodox Presbyterians of Persecution yea when for their Seditious Tumultuous Libellous Scoffing Wicked Lying Scandalous Reports Books and Practices they have been Questioned there 's nothing in their Mouths but Persecution and of Unheard-of Prosecution of the Godly I am of the mind if any of them should come to be Imprison'd and Hang'd for Stealing Killing a Godly Presbyterian Plotting against the Parliament and City in seizing upon their Forts or some Parliament-men One or other of them would cry out of Persecution Edwards Gang. P. 37. I. 4 The way Sirnamed Presbyterian conjures all mens Gifts Parts and Industry into a Synodical Circle and suffers them only to Dance there Jo. Goodwins Theomachia P. 33. P. 5 Independents are Beasts Grolls Puffoists Wild-Geese a Company of Juglers sticklers against Parliament and Presbytery a Generation of cunning Deceivers and Fighters against God Violaters of all the Laws of God and Nature the most dangerous Sect that ever yet the world Produc'd a Company of Rats among Joyn'd-stools Despisers of Magistracy a Generation of men not worthy to give guts to a Bear Moon-Calves All the Independents put together have not so much learning as one of a thousand other Ministers A Wheel-Barrow such as they trundle white-wine Vinegar on fitter for them then a Coach Bastwick Cited by Burton in his Brief answer P. 28. I. 6 That Reformation which is forward Rough Peremptory Impatient Imperious and will gather where it hath not strewed and reap where it hath not sow'd exact Obedience and Subjection from those to whom it hath not Effectually taught or Perswaded Obedience and Subjection nor ever gave any tolerable account unto truly Conscientious and Considering and Disinteressed men of any worthyness in it why it should be submitted unto and cannot be Iudg'd a Reformation according to the word of God Jo. Goodwins 12 Cautions P. 5. P. 7 The Independents are Railers Revilers Slanderers Covenant-Breakers with God and man Ordinary Lyers Notorious Calumniators and False accusers such as in holy Scripture are call'd Diaboli Devils Heretiques open Seducers and Causers of Division and Offences contrary unto the Doctrine of Christ such as all Christians have a special Command to take heed of and to shun and are prohibited to receive into their Houses or bid God speed or so much as to eat with they are no Visible Saints nor Good Daemons and therefore no True Form'd Churches nor to be Communicated with in Holy things Burton Cited by Bastwick Independency not Gods Ordinance P. 310. I. 8 Mr. John Goodwin says in his Theomachia That the presbyterian is a Bloudy Unpeaceable and Persecuting way a way much Damping and Deading the Flourishing Improvements of the Gifts and Graces of the Saints Picture of Independency P. 12. P. 9 Independency a Seminary of Schisms and Dangerous Divisions in Church and State A Floud-Gate to let in an Inundation of Heresyes Errots Sects Libertinism and Lawlessness without means of Suppressing them when Introduc'd Prinn Cited by Burton Vindication of Independency P. 40 41. Pharisaical Spiritual Pride Vain-Glory Singularity Self-conceitedness of Superlative Holiness Ib. 43. I. 10 If Ephraim be against Manasseh is it any ways like but Manasseh will be against Ephraim And God himself Prophecying of Ishmael told his mother that he would be a wild man and that his hand should be against every man and Every mans hand against him Undoubtedly that way whose hand shall be against every way will find that the hand of every way will be against it and then what manner of Peace can reasonably be expected under the Predominancy of such a way Goodwins Theomachia P. 30. P. 11 The Independents have now the sword in their hands and they think their party strong enough to Encounter any adverse and Opposing Party and they Profess they care not how soon they come to cutting of throats and speak of nothing but the slaughtering and butchering of the Presbyterians Bastwicks Postcript to Burton I. 12 At the beginning of this Parliament the whole Kingdom sided with Both Houses in the Vindication of their Liberties and so it continued untill such as did overmuch Idolize Presbytery prevail'd for a Bill to Damn Episcopacy Root and Branch that Presbitery might succeed it with it 's Fascibus and Fustibus with its Pontificalibus and Synodalibus nothing to be ahated which concern'd either Wealth or Iurisdiction only an Episcopall Tyranny to be Exchanged for a Presbyteriall Slavery Answer to Prinnes 12. Queryes P. 19. P. 13 With what Faces and Consciences can ye think to Obtrude your Independent ways and Fancies upon us c. Picture of Independency Licensed by Cranford 1645. I. 14 As the Bishops would call men Puritans and Non-Conformists and so Persecute them so will the Presbytery call men Schismaticks Heretiques Antinomians Separatists and do the like Jo. Goodwins Answer to Mr. Prinns Full Reply P. 15. P. 15 The Assembly of C●…renton judging the Sect of Independents to be not only Prejudicial to the Church of God in so far that it endeavours to bring in Confusion opening a Gate to all kinds of Singularities and Extravagancies and taking away all means of any remedy to the Evil but also most Dangerous to the State where if it had place there might be as many Religions set up as there be Parishes or particular Congregations doth enjoyn to all the Provinces and particularly to the Maritimes to take heed that the Evil takes no foot in the Churches of this Kingdom to the end that Peace and Uniformity as well in Religion as in DISCIPLINE may be Inviolably Preserv'd and that nothing be brought in amongst us which may alter in any kind the Service due unto their Majesties An Extract of the Act. Dec. 26. 1644. I. 16 The Spirit of the Ten-horned Beast Rev. 17. is now making war with the Lamb which is likely to be his last War Babylons fall following in the next Chap. and this Spirit warreth under new Colours not red but white whose word is Reformation and this under a Fair Colour of a Covenant by Virtue whereof pretending a just Title to the War he hopes by the help of the Remonstrance and the Prime Authors thereof and their Adherents to enact a New Bestiall Tyranny over Souls Bodies and Estates under new Names and Notions Burton's Conformities Deformity Ep. Ded. P. 17 The Independents worse then Diotrephes or the Pope most Diabolicall Tyranny Lording it over Gods Clergies Fellows of Goatham College not knowing their
Colemanstreet Conclave Visited P. 1. 1648. P. 33 The Congregationall men swore to Endeavour Uniformity and yet practice this day Multiformity of Religions have put to the sale the Bloud of many Gallant men in Scotland that so they may buy with their lives Cursed Liberty of Conscience But will it not be bitterness in the End Rutherfords Free Disputation 1649. P. 256. We know no service to the State done by these men but that they set up with the sword all the Blasphemous and Hereticall Sects and Religions that Tho. Muncer or Iohn of Leyd●…n fancy'd contrary to the Oath of God Ib. 259. I. 34 Was there ever any thing done in the Bishops time or any thing attempted to be done by this Generation of men in the day of their Greatest Interest and Power in the Kingdom of that Bloudy Consequence to those Godly Persons Ministers or others whom they most hated and sought to crush as this Ord'nance to Prevent the Growing and spreading of Heresies c. if once Establish'd is like to be to far greater numbers of truly Pious and Conscientious Men. Some Modest and Humble Queries P. 7. Notes upon §. 3. I Shall not need to cut up this Section by Paragraphs but rather recommend it whole to the Consideration of any Indifferent Reader These are the People that assume to themselves the Title of the Kings best Subjects and the Church of Englands True-Protestants when yet at the same time they do with their own Lips and Pens declare themselves the Implacable Enemies of Order and of One another They call for Indulgence contrary to Law from those whom they themselves destroy'd for Living and Acting according to the Law and to whom so far from Mercy they never shew'd so much as Humanity or Common Pity They demand a Comprehension with that Church which they do Ioyntly pronounce to be Anti-Christian They make use of Religion and Tenderness of Conscience as their Plea for a Common Union with the Church and yet what is it but the same Pretense of Religion and Conscience that Causes all those Mortal Feuds among themselves What Religion can be expected from men of these Outragious Principles What Peace with so many Implacable Antipathies and Oppositions What Truth from such a Medly of Pernitious Errors and what Trust can be given to those that never kept Faith either with God or Man Nor ever agreed but in order to the Ruine and Confusion of the State Would they be United ye see 't is Dangerous and Impossible Dangerous in respect of the Publique and Impossible among Themselves for they make it no less then Matter of Damnation to Suffer one Another Now according to these Practices and Positions let the world Iudge of the Design §. 4. The Dissenters Behaviour toward the Government and first the Clergy 1 PErnicious Deceivers Presumptuous Shepherds Baalamites Blazing-Stars Glosing Hypocrites with God Fasting-Pharisaicall Preachers Miserable Guides Counterfeit-False Prophets Sycophants Trencher-Priests Conscience-Brokers Dangerous and Pestilent Seducers Sectary-Precise Preachers Trecherous Watchmen Sworn Soldiers of Anti-Christ c. Barrow and Greenwood Cited in Bancrofts Survey of Holy Discipline P. 355. 2 This new Parcell of Mockery and Iesuited Popery as bad as any in the Mass-book i. e. A Collection of Prayers and Thanksgivings used in his Majesties Chappel c. and publish'd by his Majesties Command 1644. 3 Croaking Frogs Clergy that crept into the Kings Chambers who are known by the Gutter whence they came out of the Dragon out of the mouth of the Beast and the False Prophet They are the Spirits of Devils who go forth unto the Kings of the Earth to gather them to Battle c. The Frogs Heads are like their Caps Quadrata Ranarum Capita Here is work for the Parliament that the King may have no more Croakers in his Chambers Wilson to the Commons Sep. 1642. 4 A Stinking Heap of Atheisticall and Roman-Rubbish a Rotten Rabble of Slanderous Priests and Spurious Bastard sons of Belial who by their Affected Ignorance and Laziness their False Doctrines and Idolatrous Superstitious Practises in Gods worship by their most Abominable Evil Lives and Conversations had like Hophni and Phinehas made the Lords Ordinances to be even abhorr'd by the People Vicars Iehovae Iireh P. 88. 1644. 5 Who among us 7. years ago Imagin'd that this Land should be healed of the two Great Plague-Sores of this Land viz. The Common-Pruyer Book and Episcopacy of the lesser Scabs of Deans and Prebends Chancellors Arch-Deacons Queristers Promoters c. Together with the Spiritual Courts and all the Trumpery of their Superstitious Ceremonies Loves Sermon at Uxbridge Ian. 30. 1944. P 29. 6 If Justice be at a stand and cannot take hold of Living Delinquents to keep the Ax from rust Let Justice be Executed upon Liveless Delinquents Are there no Altars no High-Places no Crucifixes c. Greenhill to the Commons Ap. 26. 1643. P. 37. 7 Throw away the Rubbish out with the Lords Enemies and the Lands Vex the Midianites Abolish the Amalekites else they will vex you with their Wiles as they have done heretofore Let Popery find no favour because it is Treasonable Prelacy as little because it is Tyrannicall but Establish God his Truth and ways Coleman to the Commons Au. 30. 1643. P. 64. 8 God was weary of our New-Moons and Sabbaths and the Calling of our Assemblies He could not smell in our Common Feasts our Sacrifices were an Abomination to him through the Noisomness of those Corruptions which Hophni and Phinehas Superstitious and wicked men in the Priesthood mingled with them Strickland No. 1944. P. 33. 9 The Hierarchy is become a Fretting Gaugreen and Spreding Leprosy an Insupportable Tyraany Up with it Up with it to the Bottom Root and Branch Hip and Thigh Destroy these Amalckites and let there Place be no more found Coleman to the Par. Au. 30. 1643. P. 39. 10 Our Cathedralls are in a Great part of late become the Nest of Idle Drones and the Roosting Place of Superstitious Formalities Coleman to the Commons Au. 30. 1643. P. 39 11 How was this Honourable and Famous City of London furnish'd Even just as Ieroboam furnish'd Bethel with the Idlest the most Superstitious of all the rest Id. Ibid. 12 An Ungodly Generation that weep with a Loud Voice and Complain their Gods are gone their God Episcopacy their God Liturgy the Organ and the Surplice the Cross c. Stanton to the Commons Ap. 24. 1644. Epistle 13 Our Religion and Liberties are setled by the Laws of the Land not so Israels in Egypt And therfore the Anti-Christian Party in their attempts to wrest them from us are more Unjust and cruell then of Old was Egypt Ibid. P. 5. 14 How many Dumb Devils are now casting out of many Parishes in the Land Bond to the Commons Mar. 27. 1644. P. 44. 15 What had we got if the Prelaticall Party had been set up What could we have Expected from them but superstitions Innovations Illegalities Bondage