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A79660 The Catholick doctrine of transubtantiation proued to be ancient and orthodoxall against the sclanderous tongue of D. Iohn Cozens a Protestants minister auouching the sayd doctrine neuer to haue been knowne, in the Church before the Councels of Latteran and of Trent. Campion, William, 1599-1665. 1657 (1657) Wing C410; ESTC R42675 41,340 187

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