Selected quad for the lemma: religion_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
religion_n	church_n	doctrine_n	reform_a	3,582	5	9.8202	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A07486	Luthers predecessours: or an ansvvere to the question of the Papists: Where was your church before Luther?	Bedford, Thomas, d. 1653.	1624 (1624)	STC 1787; ESTC S114052	16,219	32

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