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A79719 The declaration of the Commission of the General Assembly, to this whole Kirk and kingdom of Scotland of the fifth of May: concerning the present publike proceedings towards an engagement in warre, so farre as religion is therein concerned. Together with their desires and petitions to the Honourable Court of Parliament, the Parliaments answers. Their humble returnes and representations, and other papers that may give full and cleare information in the matter. Church of Scotland. General Assembly. Commission.; England and Wales. Parliament. 1648 (1648) Wing C4216A; Thomason E461_2; ESTC R29223 54,894 68

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