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more_o such_o may_v have_v deceive_v a_o man_n that_o judge_v by_o his_o word_n and_o his_o argue_v that_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o preach_v to_o they_o because_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o hear_v what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o all_o this_o if_o not_o silence_v we_o sect._n 34._o p._n 140._o the_o next_o crime_n be_v plea_n p._n 42._o as_o long_o as_o they_o suppose_v the_o term_n of_o our_o communion_n to_o be_v sinful_a they_o say_v the_o schism_n do_v not_o lie_v on_o those_o that_o separate_v but_o on_o those_o that_o do_v impose_v such_o term_n and_o therefore_o they_o may_v lawful_o separate_v from_o such_o imposer_n ans_fw-fr it_o be_v hard_a to_o know_v what_o word_n to_o use_v to_o detect_v all_o these_o historical_a untruth_n without_o be_v think_v passionate_a 1._o i_o never_o say_v that_o suppose_v they_o sinful_a will_v justify_v a_o false_a supposer_n but_o have_v oft_o say_v the_o clean_a contrary_n their_o suppose_n be_v of_o his_o forge_n 2._o i_o say_v not_o the_o schism_n do_v not_o lie_v on_o those_o that_o separate_a but_o only_o that_o its_o schism_n in_o the_o imposer_n this_o also_o be_v his_o fiction_n 3._o and_o i_o say_v not_o and_o therefore_o they_o may_v lawful_o separate_v from_o such_o imposer_n but_o all_o reader_n will_v not_o stay_v to_o find_v out_o his_o forgery_n but_o how_o much_o of_o this_o he_o say_v once_o himself_o see_v in_o my_o chap._n 1._o sect._n 49._o but_o here_o he_o come_v to_o some_o close_a distinction_n which_o shall_v have_v go_v before_o between_o term_n of_o communion_n plain_o and_o in_o themselves_o sinful_a and_o such_o as_o be_v only_o fancy_v to_o be_v so_o through_o prejudice_n or_o wilful_a ignorance_n or_o error_n of_o conscience_n ans_fw-fr what_o a_o deal_n of_o labour_n may_v he_o have_v spare_v himself_o and_o we_o if_o he_o have_v here_o fix_v the_o controversy_n in_o the_o beginning_n we_o thankful_o accept_v your_o late_a distinction_n we_o ever_o desire_v here_o to_o put_v it_o to_o the_o issue_n if_o it_o be_v through_o prejudice_n wilful_a ignorance_n or_o error_n that_o we_o judge_v conformity_n a_o sin_n not_o only_a separation_n but_o nonconformity_n be_v a_o sin_n if_o we_o do_v not_o prove_v some_o part_n of_o conformity_n for_o one_o be_v enough_o to_o be_v plain_o sinful_a which_o be_v impose_v as_o condition_n of_o our_o ministerial_a communion_n and_o somewhat_o impose_v on_o the_o people_n as_o condition_n 〈◊〉_d all_o that_o part_n of_o your_o communion_n which_o i_o ever_o dissuade_v they_o from_o let_v the_o blame_n be_v we_o sect._n 35._o he_o pass_v next_o to_o they_o that_o deal_v more_o ingenuous_o than_o i_o in_o own_v separation_n and_o then_o return_v to_o i_o p._n 151._o and_o he_o over_o and_o over_o repeat_v his_o false_a accusation_n that_o i_o think_v it_o lawful_a to_o communicate_v with_o they_o occasional_o but_o not_o as_o church_n as_o think_v they_o want_v a_o essential_a part_n viz._n a_o pastor_n with_o episcopal_a power_n but_o as_o oratory_n and_o so_o that_o i_o renounce_v communion_n with_o their_o church_n as_o church_n answ_n if_o these_o untruth_n have_v be_v make_v without_o evidence_n only_o and_o not_o also_o against_o evidence_n they_o have_v be_v the_o more_o excusable_a in_o a_o man_n of_o consideration_n but_o now_o they_o be_v not_o so_o when_o i_o have_v so_o often_o declare_v that_o i_o take_v the_o parish_n church_n that_o have_v true_a pastor_n for_o true_a govern_v church_n and_o prove_v that_o they_o have_v true_a bishop_n episcopos_fw-la gregis_fw-la whether_o the_o diocesan_n will_v or_o not_o because_o god_n will_v and_o not_o the_o invester_n institute_v their_o office_n and_o measure_v their_o power_n and_o the_o people_n show_v their_o consent_n by_o constant_a communion_n sect._n 36._o then_o because_o i_o never_o gather_v a_o church_n nor_o baptize_v any_o in_o 20_o year_n nor_o give_v the_o sacrament_n in_o 18_o he_o will_v know_v what_o church_n i_o have_v be_v of_o all_o this_o time_n and_o he_o suppose_v of_o no_o church_n ans_fw-fr i_o think_v he_o have_v do_v with_o this_o before_o but_o he_o think_v it_o a_o advantage_n not_o to_o be_v so_o easy_o let_v go_v will_v he_o know_v 1._o what_o my_o thought_n be_v 2._o or_o my_o church-covenant_n 3._o or_o my_o actual_a communion_n he_o shall_v know_v all_o 1._o i_o think_v divers_a minister_n where_o i_o live_v true_a pastor_n and_o the_o church_n true_a church_n i_o can_v say_v so_o of_o every_o curate_n 2._o i_o make_v no_o covenant_n with_o any_o of_o they_o if_o i_o have_v mr._n cheny_n will_v have_v condemn_v i_o of_o atheism_n infidelity_n and_o what_o not_o 3._o with_o divers_a of_o they_o i_o go_v constant_o to_o the_o liturgy_n sermon_n and_o sacrament_n as_o with_o true_a church_n with_o some_o of_o they_o i_o only_o join_v in_o prayer_n and_o hear_n i_o hear_v dr._n rieves_n till_o he_o cause_v i_o to_o be_v send_v to_o jail_n and_o then_o i_o can_v not_o and_o though_o i_o be_v accuse_v by_o many_o for_o hear_v a_o swearer_n i_o tell_v they_o he_o swear_v not_o in_o the_o pulpit_n i_o hear_v his_o poor_a curate_n constant_o when_o i_o be_v accuse_v for_o hear_v a_o drunkard_n and_o tell_v they_o that_o he_o be_v not_o drink_v in_o the_o pulpit_n but_o i_o must_v tell_v you_o i_o communicate_v also_o with_o some_o nonconformist_n and_o now_o account_v i_o of_o a_o church_n or_o no_o church_n as_o you_o please_v i_o doubt_v you_o be_v renew_v the_o independent_a question_n with_o i_o which_o i_o be_o loath_a to_o dispute_v 1._o qu._n whether_o a_o ordain_a minister_n must_v be_v a_o private_a member_n of_o another_o man_n church_n q._n 2._o whether_o when_o a_o nonresident_a dean_n leave_v his_o parish_n to_o a_o ignorant_a drunken_a curate_n the_o parish_n church_n be_v essentiate_v by_o its_o relation_n to_o the_o resident_n curate_n or_o the_o nonresident_a dean_n q._n 3._o whether_o a_o minister_n not_o degrade_v but_o silence_v live_v in_o such_o a_o parish_n be_v bind_v 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as_o they_o have_v from_o the_o king_n as_o magistrate_n and_o a_o mere_a general_n help_v instruct_v care_n of_o many_o church_n can_v make_v i_o 5._o so_o far_o also_o i_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o diocesan_n church_n where_o i_o live_v 6._o and_o i_o be_v a_o member_n of_o some_o parochial_a church_n so_o far_o as_o constant_a communion_n can_v make_v or_o prove_v i_o and_o of_o other_o two_o at_z once_o so_o far_o as_o partial_a and_o movable_a communion_n can_v prove_v i_o if_o this_o will_v not_o satisfy_v you_o i_o have_v prove_v before_o and_o oft_o to_o some_o independent_n that_o many_o man_n be_v under_o no_o obligation_n to_o be_v fix_v member_n of_o any_o parish_n church_n whether_o the_o
far_o to_o heal_v we_o can_v we_o obtain_v it_o he_o say_v that_o any_o one_o that_o have_v see_v they_o know_v it_o to_o be_v a_o mistake_n to_o say_v it_o be_v publish_v by_o john_n fox_n ans_fw-fr his_o reader_n must_v be_v a_o strong_a believer_n and_o take_v much_o on_o his_o word_n 1._o i_o have_v see_v they_o and_o speak_v with_o man_n of_o great_a understanding_n that_o have_v see_v they_o that_o yet_o judge_v it_o no_o mistake_n 2._o the_o preface_n of_o the_o publisher_n be_v like_o his_o style_n 3._o it_o be_v call_v praefatio_fw-la i._n f._n and_o can_v every_o reader_n know_v that_o i._o f._n mean_v not_o john_n fox_n 4._o ordinary_a tradition_n say_v it_o be_v fox_n and_o what_o shall_v i_o soon_o believe_v in_o such_o a_o case_n instead_o of_o prove_v that_o they_o have_v all_o a_o power_n to_o their_o condemnation_n which_o we_o see_v they_o exercise_v not_o let_v he_o procure_v a_o real_a power_n declare_v and_o grant_v and_o it_o will_v do_v more_o than_o these_o word_n sect._n 23._o but_o when_o it_o come_v to_o the_o question_n whether_o i_o may_v so_o much_o as_o call_v a_o sinner_n to_o repentance_n by_o name_n before_o the_o church_n who_o reject_v all_o more_o private_a admonition_n he_o put_v the_o question_n whether_o the_o obligation_n to_o admonish_v public_o a_o offender_n or_o to_o deny_v he_o the_o sacrament_n if_o he_o will_v come_v to_o it_o be_v so_o great_a as_o to_o bear_v he_o out_o in_o the_o violation_n of_o a_o law_n make_v by_o public_a authority_n etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr the_o first_o question_n be_v whether_o christ_n have_v not_o make_v his_o church_n so_o different_a a_o thing_n from_o the_o world_n that_o they_o shall_v be_v open_o difference_v by_o a_o communion_n of_o saint_n 2._o and_o whether_o he_o have_v not_o institute_v a_o office_n to_o judge_v of_o this_o and_o by_o government_n execute_v it_o and_o 3._o whether_o any_o man_n have_v authority_n to_o suspend_v this_o law_n or_o office_n and_o then_o 4._o i_o shall_v grant_v that_o not_o only_a discipline_n but_o preach_v and_o prayer_n and_o sacrament_n may_v be_v forbear_v hic_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la in_o the_o present_a exercise_n when_o else_o the_o exercise_n will_v do_v more_o hurt_n than_o good_a 5._o but_o be_v these_o law_n good_a that_o forbid_v it_o and_o shall_v we_o covenant_n never_o to_o endeavour_v a_o alteration_n sect._n 24._o he_o next_o tell_v we_o of_o the_o great_a difficulty_n of_o exercise_v true_a discipline_n which_o be_v most_o true_a and_o seem_v thence_o to_o defend_v the_o forbearance_n of_o it_o with_o we_o answ_n i_o have_v in_o my_o treatise_n of_o episcopacy_n and_o oft_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v of_o great_a importance_n to_o christ_n end_n and_o that_o he_o will_v have_v it_o continue_v to_o the_o last_o and_o that_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n be_v a_o practical_a article_n of_o faith_n and_o that_o make_v small_a difference_n between_o the_o church_n and_o the_o world_n tend_v to_o church_n destruction_n and_o to_o the_o reproach_n of_o christianity_n and_o the_o utter_a undo_n of_o million_o of_o soul_n and_o though_o pope_n and_o prelate_n have_v abuse_v it_o to_o captivate_v prince_n and_o nation_n the_o just_a use_n of_o it_o he_o know_v be_v mention_v by_o the_o universal_a church_n and_o visible_o record_v in_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o several_a age_n though_o some_o erastians_n be_v of_o late_a against_o it_o and_o jesuit_n and_o worldly_a protestant_n can_v dispense_v with_o it_o when_o it_o will_v hurt_v their_o worldly_a interest_n and_o turn_v it_o chief_o against_o god_n servant_n that_o displease_v and_o cross_v they_o sect._n 25._o p._n 284._o he_o say_v the_o want_n of_o discipline_n in_o the_o parish_n church_n be_v never_o think_v by_o old_a nonconformist_n destructive_a to_o the_o be_v of_o they_o answ_n they_o do_v not_o confound_v the_o power_n and_o the_o exercise_n nor_o what_o the_o minister_n office_n be_v indeed_o and_o from_o god_n and_o what_o it_o be_v by_o the_o bishop_n mind_n and_o rule_n of_o conformity_n i_o say_v as_o they_o 1._o the_o exercise_n may_v be_v suspend_v without_o null_v the_o power_n or_o policy_n 2._o they_o be_v true_a pastor_n and_o church_n by_o god_n will_n against_o the_o will_n of_o those_o that_o will_v degrade_v they_o sect._n 26._o but_o suppose_v every_o man_n leave_v to_o his_o own_o conscience_n for_o communion_n 1._o he_o say_v the_o great_a offender_n general_o excommunicate_v themselves_o answ_n 1._o and_o be_v it_o your_o way_n to_o leave_v all_o the_o rest_n to_o their_o conscience_n and_o yet_o to_o preach_v and_o write_v against_o and_o lay_v in_o jail_n dissent_v godly_a people_n that_o communicate_v not_o with_o you_o 2._o and_o be_v not_o all_o these_o offender_n still_o member_n of_o your_o church_n albaspineus_n complain_v of_o their_o roman_a french_a church_n that_o he_o never_o know_v any_o further_a cast_n out_o than_o from_o the_o sacrament_n and_o leave_v still_o to_o other_o part_n of_o communion_n as_o member_n and_o so_o do_v you_o by_o thousand_o who_o be_v all_o son_n of_o your_o church_n but_o we_o be_v none_o he_o be_v again_o at_o it_o what_o church_n i_o be_v of_o and_o i_o have_v tell_v he_o oft_o enough_o chap._n viii_o what_o the_o national_a church_n of_o england_n be_v sect._n 1_o according_a to_o the_o doctor_n method_n we_o come_v now_o to_o the_o explication_n of_o one_o of_o the_o term_n of_o our_o controversy_n so_o long_o and_o loud_o call_v for_o viz._n what_o the_o national_a church_n of_o england_n be_v which_o we_o must_v obey_v and_o from_o which_o we_o be_v say_v to_o separate_v p._n 287._o and_o the_o answer_n be_v such_o as_o may_v tell_v dr._n fulwood_n and_o he_o that_o its_o time_n to_o give_v over_o wonder_v that_o i_o understand_v not_o what_o they_o mean_v by_o it_o sect._n 2._o our_o question_n be_v of_o the_o church_n policy_n and_o political_n form_n all_o writer_n of_o politic_n difference_n a_o mere_a 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