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A94297
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Of the government of churches; a discourse pointing at the primitive form.
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Thorndike, Herbert, 1598-1672.
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1641
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Wing T1055; Thomason E1102_1; ESTC R203782
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learned_a of_o the_o reform_a church_n abroad_o have_v profess_v of_o the_o state_n of_o our_o church_n and_o our_o charity_n in_o excuse_v the_o necessity_n of_o they_o and_o acknowledge_v the_o efficacy_n of_o the_o ministry_n which_o they_o use_v will_v be_v sufficient_a through_o god_n goodness_n to_o actuate_v the_o correspondence_n we_o desire_v to_o preserve_v with_o they_o without_o those_o innovation_n which_o they_o never_o require_v at_o our_o hand_n to_o such_o purpose_n but_o he_o that_o acknowledge_v and_o be_v glad_a to_o see_v these_o head_n stand_v in_o their_o right_a place_n look_v back_o upon_o their_o beginning_n which_o be_v to_o succeed_v the_o apostle_n over_o several_a presbytery_n in_o the_o place_n which_o they_o hold_v over_o all_o for_o the_o time_n must_v needs_o miss_v their_o relative_n the_o body_n of_o these_o presbytery_n in_o the_o government_n of_o church_n and_o though_o that_o alteration_n can_v be_v charge_v upon_o any_o man_n which_o be_v come_v 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