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A63144 The tryal and condemnation of George Busby for high-treason as a Romish priest and Jesuite, upon the statute of 27 Eliz., Cap.2, at the assizes and general goal-delivery held at Derby, for the county of Derby, the 25th day of July, in the 33th year of the reign of our Soveraign Lord King Charles the Second, &c : before the Honourable Sir Thomas Street, Knight, one of the barons of His Majesties exchequer / as it was faithfully taken, by a person of quality. Busby, George, 1638-1695, defendant.; Person of quality.; England and Wales. Court of Quarter Sessions of the Peace (Derby) 1681 (1681) Wing T2142; ESTC R28367 26,523 42

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beyond Sea where he was born but my Lord in discoursing with my Master and others of the late Wars I have heard Mr. Busby relate what hapned to their Family in those times and that their house was often plundered and his Father and Mother living at Coddington in Oxfordshire as he tells you the first time the Souldiers came to plunder the House he was about Two years old or more and being frighted at the Souldiers he hid himself behind the Bed in the Curtains so that while they were there none of the House knew where to find him which made them believe that the Souldiers had taken him or made him away but when the Soldiers were gone his Mother and some of the Family lamenting for him in her Chamber he hearing them appear'd so that with great joy they received him My Lord I think the place was Coddington where he tells you his Mother lived and that it was hers she being an Heiress At least I am very certain I have heard him speak of the place where he was born to be in or about Oxfordshire I think it was Coddington for it is the place where Mr. Charles Busby his Eldest Brother now liveth and he saith that from thence his Father and Mother went Beyond Sea Busby When did you hear me discourse any such thing as you have related and with whom you speak this by hear-say do you not Jos Dudley Several times with my Master and others as I said before when they have been talking how some Families have been ruined by the great oppressions of those times some being Plundered others Sequestred and forced to leave their Estates and Friends which you said was your Mothers Case for their great sufferings forced them to go from their own house And my Lord when he was about Five years old he did also say that he could remember Souldiers coming again to Plunder and he being at that time in the Garden or Orchard he did hide himself in the Hedge where he did continue till they were gone and then he came forth when it was late in the Evening but his Mother nor any of the Family knowing where he was did very much fear they had lost him but when he came to them they were not a little joy'd but after this they went immediatly beyond Sea and took him with them where his Mother continued several years and had several Children there the which I have heard her say of her self and of her being at Brussels Bar. Street Mr. Busby the Evidence says that you told a Story of your Mothers house being Plundered and how you hid your self in the Curtains when you was Two years old and in the Garden Hedge when Five years old for fear of the Souldiers and that soon after your Mother went beyond Sea where she had several Children which your self told from your own mouth and he had it not from other People Bar. Street But Mr. Dudley What can you say as to his being a Priest or Jesuit Jos Dudley My Lord My Master and his Family and all Papists that were acquainted with him ever owned him to be a Jesuit and several of them have many times told me so Besides he himself hath owned that he was of the Society of Jesus particularly one time when I should have been his Convert telling me While I was out of the True Faith I could not be saved and there was no way to be saved but by Believing the Catholick Church which was the Roman Catholick as Tradition makes appear for God help me I was a poor Heretick and led by weak and blind Pastors for they had their Religion only from Calvin and Luther and every silly Fellow was made now a Preacher of the Gospel before he understood it but that he and all Jesuits were Fifteen years labouring in their Studies and Degrees before they came to be Ordained Busby I pray you where and when was it I said all this to you Jos Dudley In the Gardens at West-Hallam where my Master Mr. William Powtrell and Mrs. Anne Smalley after great perswasions sent me to you and told me they had sent you before and that I should find you there where I did And your first Discourse was of the Gardens withal giving me a Description of the Gardens of the Jesuits Colledge in Liege where you did as I remember own your receiving Orders Besides I have heard my Master Mrs. Smally Mrs Winnifred Attwood and George Harrison who lived in the Colledges beyond Sea own it And your self said That Mr. Evers my Lord Aston 's Priest who hath been with you at West-Hallam was your Master and Tutor when as I think you were a Scholar at St. Omers Busby How long do you say you have lived at West-Hallam Jos Dudley Betwixt Six and Seven Years Busby When was that I talked of the Gardens at the Colledge of Liege And whether I told you I was a Jesuit when I spoke of Leige Gardens What time was it what year Jos Dudley I cannot say the time but 't was since I lived at Hallam and 't was when you perswaded me to be a Catholick Busby You take a compass of Six years this is a meer story pray what were my Arguments Bar. Street You were about to Convert him and then you told him this 't is enough you have endeavoured to make him change his Religion but it seems your Arguments were not of so much weight as to be remembred Busby I pray you was I ever with you alone to tell you I was a Jesuit Let me know the year and time and what induced me to say so Jos Dudley I cannot satisfie you when the Discourse was but I have been alone with you in the Garden a hundred times and more when you did satisfie me that you was a Jesuit was the time when you did move me to be of your perswasion the which I did so far condescend to that ever since there was none in the Family more trusted than I for my Lord I did give them all the assurance that might be of being of their Religion but the times being troublesome and the fear of disobliging my Friends particularly one or two who had the care and management of a house of mine which was then in trouble that I durst not consent yet my seeming inclination did very much please them and they did so far credit me that my Master did intend as he told me to take me beyond Sea with him nor did I know the contrary till I was upon the Road for Dover and then he told me that his Uncle Busby was Inserted in the Pass by the name of Thomas Jackson which he shewed me but he having no mind to go stayed in England and for the most part at Hallam so that my Master commanded me back to look after his Affairs there And for some time before he was to return he said he would send for me over Ever since he left Hallam Mr. Busby hath