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A53674 A brief vindication of the non-conformists from the charge of schisme as it was managed against them in a sermon preached before the Lord Mayor by Dr. Stillingfleet, Dean of St. Pauls. Owen, John, 1616-1683. 1680 (1680) Wing O723; ESTC R30840 37,860 60

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church_n however_o establish_v and_o may_v we_o not_o think_v that_o those_o many_o warning_n and_o call_n of_o god_n may_v have_v some_o respect_n unto_o these_o abomination_n that_o be_v find_v in_o the_o nation_n yea_o such_o as_o without_o a_o due_a reformation_n of_o they_o will_v issue_v in_o our_o desolation_n i_o do_v know_v that_o with_o the_o nonconformist_n also_o there_o be_v sin_n against_o the_o lord_n their_o god_n and_o it_o will_v be_v a_o great_a addition_n unto_o their_o sin_n as_o also_o a_o aggravation_n of_o their_o guilt_n if_o they_o comply_v not_o with_o the_o warning_n of_o god_n as_o they_o be_v here_o express_v by_o this_o reverend_a author_n so_o as_o to_o reform_v whatever_o be_v amiss_o in_o they_o and_o return_v whole_o unto_o god_n from_o all_o their_o wander_n but_o as_o unto_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v usual_o charge_v on_o they_o they_o be_v such_o as_o interest_n hatred_n and_o the_o desire_n of_o their_o ruin_n suggest_v unto_o the_o mind_n of_o their_o adversary_n or_o be_v use_v by_o some_o against_o their_o science_n and_o conscience_n to_o further_a that_o end_n without_o the_o least_o pretence_n to_o be_v raise_v from_o any_o thing_n in_o they_o their_o opinion_n practice_n or_o conversation_n in_o the_o world_n do_v atheism_n abound_v among_o we_o it_o be_v from_o the_o difference_n in_o religion_n make_v by_o nonconformist_n be_v there_o danger_n of_o popery_n it_o be_v because_o of_o the_o nonconformist_n be_v the_o judgement_n of_o god_n come_v on_o the_o nation_n it_o be_v for_o nonconformity_n so_o be_v it_o of_o old_a with_o the_o christian_n si_fw-mi tiber_n ascendit_fw-la in_o maenis_fw-la si_fw-la nilus_n non_fw-la ascendit_fw-la in_o arva_fw-la si_fw-la coelum_fw-la stetit_fw-la si_fw-la terra_fw-la movit_fw-la si_fw-la fame_fw-la si_fw-la lues_fw-la statim_fw-la christianos_n ad_fw-la leonem_fw-la 4._o the_o immediate_a introduction_n unto_o the_o open_n of_o his_o text_n be_v a_o account_n of_o the_o difference_n and_o division_n that_o be_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n occasion_v by_o the_o judaize_v christian_n who_o contend_v for_o the_o observation_n of_o the_o ceremony_n of_o the_o law_n but_o some_o thing_n may_v be_v add_v unto_o his_o account_n which_o be_v necessary_a unto_o the_o right_n state_v of_o that_o case_n as_o it_o may_v have_v any_o respect_n unto_o our_o present_a difference_n and_o we_o may_v observe_v 1_o that_o those_o with_o and_o concern_v who_o the_o apostle_n deal_v in_o his_o epistle_n be_v principal_o those_o of_o the_o jewish_a church_n and_o nation_n who_o have_v own_a the_o gospel_n profess_a faith_n in_o christ_n jesus_n have_v receive_v many_o of_o they_o spiritual_a gift_n or_o taste_v of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o world_n to_o come_v and_o do_v join_v in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n in_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o christian_n i_o only_o mention_v
this_o because_o some_o place_n quote_v usual_o in_o this_o matter_n do_v relate_v direct_o unto_o the_o unbelieve_a jew_n which_o go_v up_o and_o down_o to_o oppose_v the_o preach_a of_o christ_n and_o the_o gospel_n in_o rage_n and_o fury_n stir_v up_o persecution_n everywhere_o against_o they_o that_o be_v employ_v in_o it_o 2_o this_o sort_n of_o person_n be_v free_o allow_v by_o the_o apostle_n to_o continue_v in_o the_o use_n of_o those_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n which_o they_o esteem_v themselves_o oblige_v unto_o by_o virtue_n of_o moses_n law_n grant_v they_o in_o all_o other_o thing_n the_o privilege_n of_o believer_n and_o such_o as_o wherein_o they_o will_v not_o in_o any_o thing_n offend_v so_o do_v james_n and_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n declare_v themselves_o act_v 21._o 21_o etc._n etc._n yea_o 3_o out_o of_o tenderness_n unto_o they_o and_o to_o prevent_v all_o offence_n to_o be_v take_v by_o they_o at_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o gentile_n they_o do_v order_n that_o the_o believer_n of_o the_o gentile_n shall_v forbear_v for_o a_o season_n the_o use_n of_o their_o natural_a liberty_n in_o some_o few_o thing_n whereby_o the_o other_o be_v in_o their_o common_a meeting_n as_o in_o eat_v and_o drink_v together_o usual_o scandalize_v give_v they_o also_o unto_o the_o same_o end_n direction_n concern_v one_o thing_n evil_a in_o itself_o who_o long_a usage_n and_o practice_n among_o the_o gentile_n have_v obliterated_a a_o sense_n of_o its_o guilt_n wherewith_o they_o can_v not_o but_o be_v much_o offend_v 4_o with_o this_o determination_n or_o state_n of_o thing_n thus_o settle_v by_o the_o apostle_n no_o doubt_n but_o that_o a_o multitude_n of_o the_o jewish_a believer_n do_v rest_v content_a and_o satisfy_v but_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o with_o many_o of_o they_o it_o be_v otherwise_o they_o be_v no_o way_n please_v that_o they_o be_v leave_v unto_o the_o freedom_n of_o their_o own_o judgement_n and_o practice_n in_o the_o use_n and_o 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faith_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o the_o gentile_n do_v with_o the_o believe_a jew_n we_o have_v nothing_o to_o impose_v in_o religion_n on_o the_o conscience_n or_o practice_n of_o any_o other_o church_n or_o person_n we_o be_v not_o offend_v that_o other_o be_v they_o many_o or_o few_o shall_v use_v their_o own_o choice_n liberty_n and_o judgement_n in_o the_o government_n discipline_n worship_n and_o ceremony_n of_o pretend_a order_n nor_o do_v envy_n they_o the_o advantage_n which_o they_o have_v thereby_o we_o desire_v nothing_o but_o what_o the_o church_n of_o the_o gentile_n desire_v of_o old_a as_o the_o only_a mean_n to_o prevent_v division_n in_o they_o namely_o that_o they_o may_v not_o be_v impose_v on_o to_o observe_v those_o thing_n which_o they_o be_v not_o satisfy_v that_o it_o be_v the_o mind_n of_o christ_n they_o shall_v observe_v for_o he_o have_v take_v all_o the_o church_n under_o his_o own_o power_n require_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v teach_v to_o do_v and_o observe_v all_o that_o he_o command_v they_o and_o nothing_o else_o that_o we_o know_v of_o we_o desire_v no_o more_o of_o our_o governor_n ruler_n brethren_n if_o they_o think_v so_o in_o the_o ministry_n but_o that_o we_o be_v not_o with_o outward_a force_n and_o destructive_a penalty_n compel_v to_o comply_v with_o and_o practice_v in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n such_o thing_n as_o for_o our_o life_n and_o to_o save_v ourselves_o from_o the_o great_a ruin_n we_o can_v conceive_v that_o it_o be_v the_o mind_n of_o christ_n that_o we_o shall_v do_v and_o observe_v that_o while_o we_o be_v peaceable_a and_o useful_a in_o our_o place_n firm_o unite_v unto_o the_o body_n of_o the_o protestant_n in_o this_o nation_n which_o as_o this_o author_n tell_v we_o be_v the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o confession_n of_o the_o same_o faith_n and_o common_a interest_n for_o the_o maintenance_n and_o preservation_n of_o that_o one_o religion_n which_o we_o profess_v we_o be_v not_o deprive_v of_o that_o liberty_n which_o god_n and_o nature_n christ_n and_o the_o gospel_n the_o example_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o the_o present_a protestant_a interest_n of_o this_o nation_n do_v testify_v to_o be_v our_o due_n these_o thing_n be_v premise_v because_o i_o have_v no_o design_n to_o except_v against_o any_o thing_n in_o the_o discourse_n of_o the_o reverend_a author_n of_o this_o sermon_n wherein_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o cause_n be_v not_o immediate_o concern_v nor_o to_o seek_v for_o advantage_n from_o expression_n nor_o to_o draw_v a_o saw_n of_o contention_n about_o thing_n not_o necessary_a unto_o that_o defence_n of_o our_o innocency_n which_o alone_o i_o have_v undertake_v as_o be_v the_o way_n of_o the_o most_o in_o the_o management_n of_o controversy_n i_o shall_v pass_v on_o unto_o the_o charge_n itself_o or_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o argument_n and_o reason_n whereon_o all_o nonconformist_n be_v charge_v with_o schism_n etc._n etc._n but_o yet_o because_o there_o be_v some_o thing_n insist_v on_o by_o the_o author_n in_o the_o progress_n of_o his_o discourse_n according_a as_o he_o judge_v the_o method_n to_o be_v most_o convenient_a for_o the_o manage_n of_o his_o charge_n which_o i_o judge_v not_o so_o convenient_a unto_o the_o present_a defence_n i_o shall_v speak_v brief_o unto_o they_o or_o some_o of_o they_o before_o i_o proceed_v unto_o what_o be_v more_o express_o argumentative_a as_o 1._o he_o charge_v the_o nonconformist_a minister_n for_o conceal_v their_o opinion_n and_o judgement_n from_o the_o people_n about_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o their_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n and_o that_o for_o end_n easy_o to_o be_v discern_v that_o be_v their_o own_o advantage_n that_o be_v they_o do_v indeed_o judge_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o the_o people_n to_o hold_v communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n but_o will_v not_o let_v they_o know_v so_o much_o lest_o they_o shall_v forsake_v their_o ministry_n pag._n 19_o 20._o i_o do_v not_o intend_v to_o speak_v of_o the_o term_n upon_o which_o person_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v among_o we_o to_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o function_n of_o the_o ministry_n but_o of_o the_o term_n of_o lay-communion_n i._n e._n those_o which_o be_v necessary_a for_o all_o person_n to_o join_v in_o our_o prayer_n and_o sacrament_n and_o other_o office_n of_o divine_a worship_n i_o will_v not_o say_v there_o have_v be_v a_o great_a deal_n of_o art_n to_o confound_v these_o two_o and_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o discern_v to_o what_o purpose_n it_o be_v but_o i_o dare_v say_v the_o people_n not_o understand_v the_o difference_n of_o these_o two_o case_n have_v be_v a_o great_a occasion_n of_o the_o present_a separation_n for_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o some_o of_o the_o most_o impartial_a man_n of_o the_o dissenter_n it_o this_o day_n although_o they_o think_v the_o case_n of_o the_o ●●●●sters_n very_o hard_a on_o the_o account_n of_o subscription_n and_o ●●●●rations_n require_v of_o they_o yet_o they_o confess_v very_o little_a 〈◊〉_d be_v say_v on_o the_o behalf_n of_o the_o people_n from_o who_o none_o of_o those_o thing_n be_v require_v so_o that_o the_o people_n be_v condemn_v in_o their_o separation_n by_o their_o own_o teacher_n but_o how_o they_o can_v preach_v lawful_o to_o a_o people_n who_o commit_v a_o fault_n in_o hear_v they_o i_o do_v not_o understand_v and_o the_o same_o thing_n be_v yet_o manage_v with_o more_o severity_n pag._n 37_o 38._o in_o word_n that_o i_o shall_v at_o large_a transenbe_n i_o dare_v say_v if_o most_o of_o the_o preacher_n at_o this_o day_n in_o the_o separate_a meeting_n be_v sober_o ask_v their_o judgement_n whether_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o the_o people_n to_o join_v with_o we_o in_o the_o public_a assembly_n they_o will_v not_o deny_v it_o and_o yet_o the_o people_n that_o
frequent_v they_o general_o judge_v otherwise_o for_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v suppose_v that_o faction_n among_o they_o shall_v so_o common_o prevail_v beyond_o interest_n and_o therefore_o if_o they_o think_v it_o be_v lawful_a for_o they_o to_o comply_v with_o the_o law_n they_o will_v do_v it_o but_o why_o then_o be_v this_o keep_v up_o as_o such_o a_o mighty_a secret_a in_o the_o breast_n of_o their_o teacher_n why_o do_v they_o not_o preach_v to_o they_o in_o their_o congregation_n be_v it_o for_o fear_n they_o shall_v have_v none_o leave_v to_o preach_v to_o that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v imagine_v of_o mortify_a and_o conscientious_a man_n be_v it_o lest_o they_o shall_v seem_v to_o condemn_v themselves_o while_o they_o preach_v against_o separation_n in_o a_o separate_a congregation_n this_o i_o confess_v look_v odd_o and_o the_o tenderness_n of_o a_o man_n mind_n in_o such_o a_o case_n may_v out_o of_o mere_a shamefacedness_n keep_v he_o from_o declare_v a_o truth_n which_o fly_v in_o his_o face_n while_o he_o speak_v it_o be_v it_o that_o they_o fear_v the_o reproach_n of_o the_o people_n which_o some_o few_o of_o the_o most_o eminent_a person_n among_o they_o have_v find_v they_o must_v undergo_v if_o they_o touch_v upon_o this_o subject_a for_o i_o know_v not_o how_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o the_o most_o godly_a people_n among_o they_o can_v the_o least_o endure_v to_o be_v tell_v of_o their_o fault_n but_o be_v it_o not_o as_o plain_o write_v by_o st._n paul_n if_o i_o yet_o serve_v man_n i_o shall_v not_o be_v 10._o the_o servant_n of_o christ_n as_o woe_n be_v unto_o i_o if_o i_o preach_v not_o the_o gospel_n if_o they_o therefore_o will_v acquit_v themselves_o like_o honest_a and_o conscientious_a man_n let_v they_o tell_v the_o people_n plain_o that_o they_o look_v on_o our_o church_n as_o true_a church_n and_o that_o they_o may_v lawful_o communicate_v with_o we_o in_o prayer_n and_o sacrament_n and_o i_o do_v not_o question_v but_o in_o time_n if_o they_o find_v it_o lawful_a they_o will_v judge_v it_o to_o be_v their_o duty_n for_o it_o be_v the_o apostle_n command_v here_o whereto_o we_o have_v already_o attain_v let_v we_o walk_v by_o the_o same_o rule_n let_v we_o mind_n the_o same_o thing_n a_o crime_n this_o be_v which_o if_o true_a be_v not_o easy_o to_o be_v expiate_v nor_o can_v man_n give_v great_a evidence_n of_o their_o own_o hypocrisy_n insincerity_n and_o government_n by_o corrupt_a end_n and_o design_n than_o by_o such_o abominable_a art_n and_o contrivance_n so_o if_o it_o shall_v prove_v not_o to_o be_v true_a it_o can_v but_o be_v look_v on_o as_o animate_v by_o such_o a_o evil_a surmise_n as_o be_v of_o no_o small_a provocation_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n and_o man_n this_o reverend_a author_n make_v a_o distinction_n about_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n page_n 20._o between_o what_o be_v require_v of_o minister_n and_o that_o which_o be_v call_v lay-communion_n which_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o this_o charge_n i_o do_v not_o confound_v bare_a suspending_a communion_n in_o some_o particular_a rite_n which_o person_n do_v modest_o scruple_n and_o use_v it_o in_o what_o they_o judge_v to_o be_v lawful_a with_o either_o total_a or_o at_o least_o ordinary_a forbearance_n of_o communion_n in_o what_o they_o judge_v to_o be_v lawful_a and_o proceed_v to_o the_o form_n of_o separate_a congregation_n i._n e._n under_o other_o teacher_n and_o by_o other_o rule_n than_o what_o the_o establish_a religion_n allow_v and_o this_o be_v the_o present_a case_n of_o separation_n which_o i_o intend_v to_o consider_v and_o to_o make_v the_o sinfulness_n and_o mischief_n of_o it_o appear_v but_o he_o know_v that_o by_o the_o communion_n and_o unite_n ourselves_o unto_o the_o church_n which_o be_v press_v either_o on_o minister_n or_o people_n a_o total_a submission_n unto_o the_o rule_n as_o establish_v in_o the_o book_n of_o canon_n and_o rubric_n of_o the_o liturgy_n be_v require_v of_o they_o all_o when_o this_o be_v once_o engage_v in_o there_o be_v no_o suspend_v of_o communion_n in_o particular_a rite_n to_o be_v allow_v they_o who_o give_v up_o themselves_o hereunto_o must_v observe_v the_o whole_a rule_n to_o a_o tittle_n nor_o be_v it_o in_o the_o power_n of_o this_o reverend_a author_n who_o be_v of_o great_a dignity_n in_o the_o church_n and_o as_o like_a as_o any_o man_n i_o know_v to_o be_v incline_v thereunto_o to_o give_v indulgence_n unto_o they_o in_o their_o abstinence_n from_o the_o least_o ceremony_n enjoin_v wherefore_o the_o question_n about_o lay-communion_n be_v concern_v that_o which_o be_v absolute_a and_o total_a according_a unto_o all_o that_o be_v enjoin_v by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n or_o by_o the_o canon_n constitution_n and_o order_n of_o the_o church_n hereby_o be_v they_o oblige_v to_o bring_v their_o child_n to_o be_v baptize_v with_o the_o use_n of_o the_o aerial_a sign_n of_o the_o cross_n to_o kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n to_o the_o religious_a observation_n of_o holiday_n to_o the_o constant_a use_n of_o the_o liturgy_n in_o all_o the_o public_a office_n of_o the_o church_n unto_o the_o exclusion_n of_o the_o exercise_n of_o those_o gift_n which_o christ_n continue_v to_o communicate_v for_o its_o edification_n to_o forego_v all_o mean_n of_o public_a edification_n beside_o that_o in_o their_o parish-church_n where_o to_o speak_v with_o modesty_n it_o be_v oft_o time_n scanty_a and_o want_v to_o renounce_v all_o other_o assembly_n wherein_o they_o have_v have_v great_a experience_n of_o spiritual_a advantage_n unto_o their_o soul_n to_o desert_n the_o observation_n of_o many_o useful_a gospel-duty_n in_o their_o mutual_a watch_n that_o believer_n of_o the_o same_o church_n ought_v to_o have_v one_o over_o another_o to_o divest_v themselves_o of_o all_o interest_n of_o a_o voluntary_a consent_n in_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n and_o choice_n of_o their_o own_o pastor_n and_o to_o submit_v unto_o a_o ecclesiastical_a rule_n and_o discipline_n which_o not_o one_o in_o a_o thousand_o of_o they_o can_v apprehend_v to_o have_v any_o thing_n in_o it_o of_o the_o authority_n of_o christ_n or_o rule_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o other_o thing_n of_o the_o like_a nature_n may_v be_v add_v this_o be_v the_o true_a state_n of_o lay-communion_n which_o will_v admit_v of_o no_o indulgence_n if_o the_o rule_n be_v observe_v i_o must_v say_v that_o i_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o there_o be_v six_o nonconformist_a minister_n in_o england_n that_o do_v believe_v this_o communion_n to_o be_v lawful_a for_o the_o people_n to_o embrace_v and_o on_o the_o other_o hand_n they_o cease_v not_o to_o instruct_v they_o wherein_o their_o true_a communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v consist_v namely_o in_o faith_n and_o love_n and_o all_o the_o fruit_n of_o they_o unto_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n i_o hearty_o wish_v these_o thing_n have_v be_v omit_v that_o they_o have_v not_o be_v speak_v not_o to_o cover_v any_o guilt_n in_o the_o nonconformist_n who_o conscience_n be_v unto_o they_o a_o thousand_o witness_n against_o such_o imputation_n but_o whereas_o the_o ground_n of_o they_o be_v only_a surmise_n and_o suspicion_n and_o the_o evil_n charge_v of_o the_o high_a nature_n that_o any_o man_n can_v involve_v themselves_o in_o the_o guilt_n of_o it_o argue_v such_o a_o frame_n of_o spirit_n such_o a_o habit_n of_o mind_n as_o evidence_v man_n to_o be_v very_o remote_a from_o that_o christian_a love_n and_o charity_n which_o on_o all_o hand_n we_o sometime_o pretend_v unto_o of_o the_o same_o nature_n be_v another_o charge_n of_o the_o like_a want_n of_o sincerity_n pag_n 46._o those_o say_v he_o who_o speak_v now_o most_o against_o the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n have_v ten_o substantial_a reason_n for_o it_o when_o they_o think_v the_o magistrate_n on_o their_o own_o side_n for_o which_o be_v quote_v a_o answer_n unto_o two_o question_n 1659._o that_o be_v they_o change_v their_o opinion_n according_a to_o their_o interest_n i_o know_v not_o direct_o who_o he_o intend_v those_o who_o be_v common_o call_v independent_o express_v their_o apprehension_n of_o the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o and_o about_o religion_n in_o their_o confession_n make_v 1659._o that_o any_o of_o they_o have_v on_o what_o have_v ensue_v change_v their_o opinion_n therein_o i_o know_v not_o and_o for_o my_o part_n i_o have_v on_o this_o occasion_n peruse_v the_o answer_n unto_o the_o two_o question_n direct_v unto_o and_o do_v profess_v myself_o at_o this_o day_n to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o judgement_n with_o the_o author_n of_o they_o as_o it_o be_v express_v in_o that_o paper_n there_o be_v thing_n not_o easy_o to_o be_v number_v wherein_o we_o acknowledge_v the_o magistrate_n power_n and_o duty_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n
as_o much_o as_o ever_o be_v in_o the_o godly_a king_n of_o judah_n of_o old_a or_o be_v at_o first_o claim_v by_o the_o first_o christian_a emperor_n yet_o be_v there_o some_o who_o although_o they_o be_v feed_v and_o warm_v promote_v and_o dignify_v by_o the_o effect_n of_o the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o and_o about_o religion_n who_o will_v not_o allow_v that_o any_o thing_n be_v ascribe_v unto_o he_o unless_o we_o grant_v that_o it_o be_v in_o his_o rightful_a power_n and_o his_o duty_n to_o coerce_v and_o punish_v with_o all_o sort_n of_o mulct_n spoil_v of_o good_n imprisonment_n banishment_n and_o in_o some_o case_n death_n itself_o such_o person_n as_o hold_v the_o head_n and_o all_o the_o fundamental_a principle_n of_o christian_a religion_n entire_a who_o worship_n be_v free_a from_o idolatry_n who_o conversation_n be_v peaceable_a and_o useful_a unless_o in_o all_o thing_n they_o comply_v with_o themselves_o when_o possible_o some_o of_o they_o may_v be_v as_o useful_a in_o 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unto_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n we_o be_v tell_v that_o he_o speak_v not_o of_o the_o separation_n or_o distinct_a communion_n of_o whole_a church_n from_o each_o other_o which_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n antiquity_n and_o reason_n have_v a_o just_a right_n and_o power_n to_o govern_v and_o reform_v themselves_o by_o whole_a church_n i_o mean_v the_o church_n of_o such_o nation_n which_o upon_o the_o decay_n of_o the_o roman_a empire_n resume_v their_o just_a right_n of_o government_n to_o themselves_o and_o upon_o their_o own_n christianity_n incorporate_v into_o one_o christian_a society_n under_o the_o same_o common_a tie_v and_o rule_v of_o order_n and_o government_n pag._n 16._o i_o do_v suppose_v that_o particular_a church_n or_o congregation_n be_v hereby_o exempt_v from_o all_o guilt_n of_o schism_n in_o not_o comply_v with_o rule_n of_o communion_n impose_v on_o they_o by_o other_o church_n i_o be_o sure_a according_a unto_o the_o principle_n of_o 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thing_n that_o fall_v out_o so_o long_o after_o the_o institution_n of_o church_n and_o propagation_n of_o christian_a religion_n that_o we_o be_v not_o at_o all_o concern_v in_o it_o especial_o consider_v that_o the_o occasion_n and_o mean_n of_o the_o constitution_n of_o such_o church_n be_v whole_o foreign_a unto_o religion_n and_o the_o concern_v of_o it_o the_o right_a and_o power_n of_o govern_v and_o reform_v themselves_o here_o speak_v of_o be_v that_o which_o be_v give_v by_o christ_n himself_o unto_o his_o church_n nor_o do_v i_o know_v else_o where_o they_o shall_v have_v it_o wherefore_o those_o national_a provincial_a church_n which_o arise_v upon_o the_o dissolution_n of_o the_o roman_a empire_n must_v first_o be_v prove_v to_o be_v of_o his_o institution_n before_o they_o can_v be_v allow_v to_o have_v their_o power_n give_v they_o by_o jesus_n christ._n in_o what_o king_n potentate_n and_o other_o supreme_a magistrate_n may_v do_v to_o accommodate_v the_o outward_a 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