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a_o little_a after_o he_o say_v that_o he_o can_v not_o omit_v those_o business_n without_o the_o omit_v of_o his_o duty_n to_o the_o same_o effect_n do_v he_o speak_v in_o that_o treatise_n that_o be_v among_o his_o episile_n in_o number_n a_o hundred_o and_o ten_o where_o he_o desire_v the_o people_n that_o they_o will_v not_o mole_v he_o for_o the_o space_n of_o fyve_o day_n with_o their_o worldly_a matter_n by_o reason_n of_o certain_a business_n commit_v unto_o he_o as_o it_o appear_v in_o these_o word_n it_o please_v i_o and_o you_o for_o the_o care_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o the_o brethren_n and_o father_n my_o fellow_n bishop_n dydde_v vouchsafe_v to_o lay_v upon_o i_o in_o 110._o ang._n epi._n 110._o the_o counsel_n of_o numidia_n and_o carthage_n for_o the_o space_n of_o fyve_o day_n no_o man_n shall_v trouble_v i_o these_o thing_n be_v propound_v you_o be_v content_a your_o decree_n and_o consent_n be_v rehearse_v it_o be_v keep_v but_o a_o small_a time_n and_o 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allege_v of_o the_o bishop_n of_o sarum_n and_o manifest_o declare_v what_o be_v the_o use_n in_o his_o day_n touch_v such_o matter_n chap._n 3._o the._n 15._o division_n sect_n the_o bishop_n of_o sarun_n in_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o apol._n in_o the._n 5._o part_n 4._o chap._n 2._o sect_n t._n c._n pag._n 171._o sect._n 2._o and_o for_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o matter_n that_o minister_n ought_v not_o to_o meddle_v with_o civil_a affair_n surmise_v affair_n but_o you_o shall_v not_o find_v he_o contrary_a to_o himself_o as_o you_o surmise_v i_o will_v appeal_v to_o no_o other_o than_o to_o the_o bishop_n himself_o who_o do_v assume_v plain_o the_o same_o that_o the_o admonition_n here_o affirm_v io._n whitgifte_n in_o that_o place_n the_o bishop_n of_o sarisburie_n speak_v only_o of_o the_o pope_n who_o usurp_v practice_n m._n jewel_n speak_v not_o against_o civil_a o_o ces_fw-fr in_o minister_n simple_o but_o allow_v they_o by_o his_o own_o practice_n the_o whole_a and_o full_a 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