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it_o be_v yet_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o it_o be_v the_o pope_n will_n that_o that_o course_n of_o interpret_n shall_v hold_v their_o mancipiall_n vow_n &_o oath_n make_v they_o perjure_v that_o violate_v the_o same_o the_o jesuite_n esteem_v these_o but_o shift_n &_o therefore_o he_o will_v justify_v his_o father_n a_o other_o way_n &_o to_o that_o end_n proceed_v in_o this_o manner_n but_o let_v we_o put_v the_o ease_n that_o maldonate_fw-it do_v â—â—kâ—_n that_o â—ath_v if_o you_o do_v without_o a_o dispensation_n he_o must_v be_v perjure_v yet_o shall_v not_o our_o answerer_n be_v able_a ever_o to_o show_v that_o either_o he_o or_o any_o other_o jesuite_n do_v once_o violat_a the_o same_o 9â—_n same_o reply_v pag._n 9â—_n i_o fear_v you_o will_v be_v deceive_v for_o if_o your_o excuse_n fail_v maldonate_fw-it must_v get_v a_o learnede_a advocate_n or_o plead_v guilty_a and_o it_o seem_v you_o be_v to_o seek_v when_o you_o fly_v from_o the_o word_n of_o the_o oath_n &_o seek_v relief_n from_o the_o extension_n of_o the_o intent_n thereof_o for_o i_o suppose_v he_o be_v not_o so_o ignorant_a say_v the_o jesuite_n but_o that_o he_o know_v how_o the_o intent_n of_o that_o oath_n extend_v itself_o no_o further_o then_o to_o bind_v the_o take_v never_o to_o interpret_v the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n contrary_n to_o the_o consent_n of_o ancient_a father_n 9â—_n father_n reply_v pag._n 9â—_n he_o shall_v be_v as_o blind_a as_o mr_n malone_n if_o he_o shall_v take_v his_o shift_n for_o a_o fit_a gloss_n for_o this_o text_n who_o shall_v measure_v the_o extent_n of_o this_o oath_n but_o they_o that_o first_o occasion_v it_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n and_o will_v their_o decree_n patronize_v his_o conceit_n it_o will_v tell_v you_o that_o ad_fw-la câ—â—rcenda_fw-la petulantia_fw-la ingonia_fw-la to_o restrain_v petulans_fw-la wit_n 3_o wit_n conc._n trid._n sess_v 4._o decret_n 3_o the_o synod_n do_v decree_v that_o doctor_n shall_v not_o interpret_v the_o scripture_n contra_fw-la eum_fw-la sensum_fw-la quem_fw-la tenuit_fw-la &_o tonet_fw-la sancta_fw-la mater_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la aut_fw-la contra_fw-la unanimem_fw-la consensum_fw-la patrum_fw-la against_o that_o sense_n which_o the_o holy_a mother_n church_n have_v &_o do_v hold_v or_o against_o the_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o father_n ibid._n father_n ibid._n but_o be_v this_o all_o if_o it_o be_v the_o jesuite_n will_v think_v himself_o secure_a but_o we_o shall_v find_v that_o in_o the_o first_o place_n it_o inhibite_v â—t_z nemo_fw-la prudentiae_fw-la innxus_fw-la sacram_fw-la scripturam_fw-la ad_fw-la suos_fw-la sâ—nsus_fw-la contorqueat_fw-la that_o no_o man_n leaâ—ing_v to_o his_o own_o wisdom_n do_v wrest_v the_o scripture_n to_o his_o own_o sense_n ibid._n ibid._n which_o maldonat_n do_v confess_v he_o have_v do_v non_fw-la nego_fw-la i_o huius_fw-la interpretationis_fw-la authorem_fw-la neminem_fw-la habere_fw-la i_o do_v not_o deny_v say_v he_o that_o i_o have_v no_o author_n of_o this_o interpretation_n beside_o the_o council_n condennes_n interpretation_n contrary_a to_o the_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o father_n but_o the_o jesuit_n will_v not_o have_v the_o oath_n bind_v so_o it_o be_v not_o contradictory_n in_o that_o point_n which_o be_v expound_v whether_o the_o council_n want_v faith_n or_o the_o jesuit_n let_v the_o jesuit_n resolve_v the_o word_n of_o the_o oath_n exclude_v the_o jesuit_n gloss_n &_o be_v strict_a than_o the_o counsel_n decree_n the_o council_n condemn_v interpretation_n that_o be_v private_a from_o a_o man_n own_o wisdom_n or_o 〈◊〉_d against_o the_o consent_n of_o father_n ibid._n father_n ibid._n though_o it_o be_v with_o many_o assistant_n but_o the_o oath_n inhibite_v the_o receive_n and_o interpret_n of_o the_o scripture_n not_o only_o with_o gloss_n that_o be_v contra_fw-la against_o the_o father_n this_o be_v too_o little_a but_o with_o such_o that_o be_v not_o juxta_fw-la unanimem_fw-la consensum_fw-la according_a to_o the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o father_n etc._n father_n bulla_n pij_fw-la 4._o nec_fw-la eam_fw-la unquam_fw-la nisi_fw-la juxta_fw-la etc._n etc._n so_o that_o the_o place_n of_o augustine_n be_v produce_v to_o small_a purpose_n it_o neither_o shadow_v nor_o salve_v the_o jesuite_n credit_n for_o the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o a_o divine_a free_a and_o at_o liberty_n may_v use_v s._n augustine_n practice_n in_o the_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n but_o whether_o a_o jesuite_n tie_v to_o the_o oath_n nec_fw-la eam_fw-la unquam_fw-la never_o to_o interpret_v nisi_fw-la juxta_fw-la unanimum_fw-la consensum_fw-la patrum_fw-la but_o according_a to_o the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o father_n â—ay_n without_o breach_n of_o faith_n enjoy_v this_o liberty_n this_o be_v the_o question_n but_o their_o jesuite_n pererius_n have_v interpret_v quite_o contrary_a to_o the_o consent_n of_o father_n and_o this_o jesuite_n only_o afford_v he_o a_o good_a word_n but_o sweat_v not_o at_o all_o for_o his_o relief_n or_o defence_n so_o that_o all_o may_v see_v the_o most_o judicious_a answerer_n be_v free_v from_o malice_n slander_n ignorance_n and_o of_o bold_a and_o desperate_a forehead_n which_o the_o blister_a tongue_n of_o the_o jesuite_n will_v have_v cast_v upon_o he_o he_o wrong_v i_o in_o like_a sort_n 92_o sort_n reply_v pag._n 92_o say_v the_o jesuite_n if_o his_o learned_a pen_n have_v do_v you_o wrong_n it_o have_v be_v by_o detect_v your_o fraud_n as_o before_o the_o perjury_n of_o your_o order_n for_o wherein_o be_v the_o wrong_n but_o in_o show_v forth_o the_o wisdom_n of_o your_o insinuation_n for_o the_o truth_n be_v he_o indeavour_v not_o to_o make_v his_o reader_n believe_v that_o you_o shall_v be_v so_o unreasonable_a as_o to_o say_v that_o a_o man_n may_v not_o dissent_v from_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n so_o much_o as_o in_o a_o exposition_n of_o a_o text_n of_o scripture_n without_o make_v himself_o more_o learned_a more_o pious_a and_o 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scripture_n they_o that_o vary_v from_o they_o in_o doctrine_n draw_v from_o thence_o must_v make_v themselves_o more_o learned_a 〈◊〉_d and_o holy_a than_o they_o be_v but_o upon_o revisall_n what_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o confess_v he_o do_v labour_n to_o excuse_v and_o to_o this_o intent_n he_o refine_v his_o character_n and_o tell_v we_o a_o long_a story_n of_o his_o thought_n that_o he_o who_o in_o such_o point_n of_o faith_n as_o those_o be_v which_o i_o lay_v down_o in_o my_o demand_n will_v prefette_v his_o own_o private_a interpretation_n of_o scripture_n before_o the_o general_a and_o uniform_a agreement_n of_o holy_a father_n therein_o can_v not_o be_v excuse_v from_o the_o guilt_n of_o such_o like_a arrogancy_n 93_o arrogancy_n reply_v pag._n 93_o be_v it_o but_o arrogancy_n to_o deny_v the_o father_n in_o a_o point_n of_o faith_n such_o as_o those_o be_v which_o you_o have_v lay_v down_o it_o seem_v your_o faith_n be_v of_o your_o own_o make_n otherwise_o it_o will_v be_v heresy_n especial_o be_v perverse_o do_v against_o so_o great_a a_o light_n and_o conjoin_v testimony_n but_o why_o more_o in_o these_o point_n that_o be_v name_v by_o you_o and_o such_o like_a then_o in_o other_o learn_v piety_n and_o holiness_n direct_v in_o every_o point_n of_o religiou_n as_o well_o as_o in_o these_o and_o therefore_o if_o it_o conclude_v arrogancy_n to_o those_o that_o oppose_v in_o these_o you_o must_v show_v we_o a_o reason_n why_o it_o do_v not_o in_o other_o also_o and_o so_o far_o as_o i_o can_v see_v the_o jesuite_n have_v no_o reason_n against_o the_o currant_n of_o their_o whole_a church_n to_o make_v learning_n piety_n and_o religion_n cause_v of_o true_a interpretation_n of_o scripture_n no_o not_o in_o point_n of_o faith_n when_o by_o their_o own_o confession_n these_o three_o grace_n be_v suspend_v from_o guide_v the_o roman_a faith_n for_o whole_a age_n together_o 100l_n together_o stapl._n relect._n cont_n 1._o q._n 5._o a._n 3._o vixullum_fw-la peccatum_fw-la solâ_fw-la haeresi_fw-la
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determine_v of_o so_o necessary_a light_n that_o every_o man_n must_v believe_v they_o you_o may_v persuade_v this_o in_o peru_n or_o mexico_n but_o your_o neighbour_n the_o venetians_n will_v not_o believe_v you_o that_o dwell_v near_a home_n neither_o have_v all_o your_o catholic_a child_n such_o opinion_n of_o that_o council_n as_o to_o receive_v it_o now_o our_o jesuite_n will_v have_v they_o of_o faith_n from_o our_o confession_n neither_o can_v our_o adversaries_n themselves_o say_v he_o deny_v that_o they_o appertain_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n sâ—â—ing_v that_o they_o condemn_v they_o for_o heresy_n in_o we_o 93._o we_o reply_v pag._n 93._o here_o the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o have_v a_o heresy_n to_o be_v but_o in_o point_n of_o faith_n that_o the_o denial_n thereof_o may_v exclude_v we_o from_o salvation_n if_o this_o be_v the_o rule_n by_o which_o the_o jesuite_n will_v try_v heresy_n i_o think_v these_o will_v not_o prove_v of_o that_o stamp_n in_o 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ourselves_o be_v style_v heretic_n must_v needs_o in_o regard_n of_o those_o point_n err_v in_o the_o foundation_n do_v you_o not_o know_v it_o often_o fall_v out_o as_o when_o you_o charge_v we_o that_o after_o the_o way_n which_o be_v call_v heresy_n so_o do_v many_o of_o the_o faithful_a serve_v the_o lord_n god_n of_o their_o father_n shall_v we_o condemn_v to_o eternal_a fire_n irenaeus_n justine_n martyr_n all_o the_o millenaries_n and_o all_o those_o which_o consent_v to_o those_o point_n which_o epiphanius_n augustine_n or_o alphâ—â—sus_n de_fw-fr castro_n have_v style_v heresy_n it_o be_v too_o rigid_a a_o censure_n and_o more_o fit_a for_o the_o judge_n of_o hell_n than_o the_o priest_n of_o god_n so_o that_o this_o prove_v but_o a_o vain_a ground_n to_o infer_v these_o point_n to_o be_v of_o faith_n because_o they_o be_v account_v heresy_n and_o if_o we_o will_v observe_v it_o we_o may_v from_o his_o own_o word_n find_v that_o heresy_n have_v declare_v themselves_o not_o 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chief_a article_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n yet_o they_o be_v ever_o belong_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n from_o the_o beginning_n and_o without_o doubt_n be_v hold_v for_o such_o at_o least_o implicit_o and_o virtual_o by_o the_o holy_a father_n howsoever_o our_o answerer_n upon_o no_o better_a ground_n than_o his_o divine_a humour_n do_v give_v out_o the_o contrary_n 9â—_n contrary_n reply_v pag._n 9â—_n sure_o it_o can_v not_o be_v faith_n at_o any_o time_n if_o not_o then_o for_o to_o the_o church_n long_o before_o be_v declare_v the_o whole_a counsel_n of_o god_n so_o that_o indeed_o it_o may_v be_v of_o the_o popish_a faith_n which_o may_v be_v declare_v 1500._o year_n after_o christ_n but_o not_o that_o of_o the_o ancient_a church_n which_o be_v once_o deliver_v to_o the_o saint_n and_o if_o the_o jesuite_n will_v have_v that_o of_o the_o foundation_n which_o be_v never_o so_o declare_v or_o repute_v till_o our_o last_o time_n let_v he_o prove_v ex_fw-la re_fw-mi â—atâ—_n that_o it_o be_v so_o and_o not_o think_v himself_o able_a by_o his_o without_o doubt_n to_o persuade_v we_o that_o the_o father_n hold_v those_o point_n virtual_o and_o implicit_o â—â—_o belong_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n and_o then_o he_o do_v something_o for_o if_o the_o bare_a act_n of_o declaration_n may_v make_v a_o article_n of_o faith_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n with_o his_o â—â—â—ncell_n may_v make_v we_o a_o other_o belief_n and_o turn_v christianity_n into_o a_o new_a mould_n a_o thing_n much_o desire_v if_o more_o than_o probable_a ground_n do_v not_o deceive_v we_o but_o if_o these_o point_n be_v decree_v in_o aftertime_n from_o some_o inward_a and_o virtual_a substance_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v inherent_a in_o they_o let_v he_o declare_v it_o and_o by_o some_o mean_n or_o other_o help_v our_o eye-fight_a that_o can_v perceive_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o the_o point_n here_o mention_v and_o whereas_o the_o wizard_n think_v every_o man_n of_o his_o own_o profession_n he_o be_v deceive_v his_o conjecture_n be_v far_o from_o the_o ground_n that_o be_v follow_v by_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n and_o how_o far_o it_o be_v from_o divine_a to_o express_v a_o truth_n any_o will_v apprehend_v that_o know_v that_o divine_a have_v relation_n to_o thing_n to_o come_v and_o not_o to_o thing_n past_a but_o what_o he_o promise_v in_o the_o next_o chapter_n we_o will_v examine_v whereby_o i_o think_v we_o may_v come_v to_o more_o perfect_a knowledge_n of_o their_o catholic_a frâ—â—des_n though_o not_o of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d as_o he_o will_v persuade_v sect_n xii_o the_o jesuite_n have_v travail_v in_o the_o defence_n of_o certain_a point_n from_o the_o father_n testimony_n that_o be_v not_o of_o the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n and_o fear_v to_o be_v censure_v by_o lyrinensis_n who_o say_v that_o the_o aunciâ—â—t_a consent_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n be_v with_o great_a care_n to_o be_v sâ—ught_v and_o follow_v by_o we_o not_o in_o every_o petty_a question_n belong_v to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n but_o one_o 〈◊〉_d at_o least_o principal_o in_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n 26._o faith_n see_v the_o testimony_n urge_v by_o the_o most_o reverend_a the_o lord_n primate_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o jesuite_n challenge_v pag._n 26._o do_v in_o this_o section_n inquire_v hâ—â—â—_n a_o point_n of_o faith_n may_v be_v discern_v from_o a_o indifferent_a opinion_n in_o religion_n 96._o religion_n reply_v p._n 96._o and_o declare_v the_o reason_n of_o his_o so_o do_v forasmuch_o say_v he_o â—â—_o our_o answerer_n affirm_v that_o all_o the_o point_n by_o i_o lay_v down_o in_o my_o demand_n be_v not_o chief_a article_n i_o think_v it_o meet_v by_o this_o disputation_n to_o disproove_v he_o herein_o and_o to_o shâ—w_v that_o they_o be_v all_o such_o chief_a article_n of_o faith_n at_o the_o obstinate_a denial_n of_o any_o of_o they_o deprive_v a_o man_n of_o all_o true_a belief_n and_o make_v he_o a_o faithless_a heretic_n for_o performance_n whereof_o we_o be_v first_o to_o inquire_v which_o be_v the_o way_n or_o certain_a rule_n to_o know_v a_o article_n of_o faith_n from_o a_o indifferent_a opinion_n and_o that_o be_v find_v out_o by_o square_n the_o say_v point_n thereby_o we_o shall_v easy_o understand_v whether_o they_o be_v thief_n article_n yea_o or_o â—â—_o 96_o â—â—_o reply_v pag._n 96_o now_o in_o this_o passage_n the_o jesuite_n meet_v not_o at_o all_o with_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n observation_n for_o he_o deny_v all_o the_o point_v propound_v by_o the_o jesuite_n to_o be_v chief_a article_n in_o regard_n of_o those_o which_o be_v more_o necessary_a &_o fundamental_a which_o only_o be_v to_o be_v inquire_v of_o by_o consent_n of_o father_n in_o lirinensis_n his_o judgement_n â—_o judgement_n see_v above_o light_v â—_o and_o not_o because_o in_o their_o own_o nature_n they_o be_v indifferent_a for_o if_o he_o shall_v conceit_n they_o such_o why_o shall_v he_o style_v you_o heretic_n for_o your_o false_a declaration_n concern_v they_o nay_o why_o shall_v there_o be_v controversy_n at_o all_o betwixt_o we_o second_o all_o that_o the_o jesuite_n urge_v here_o satisfi_v not_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n in_o show_n only_o for_o unless_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o these_o point_n be_v according_a to_o his_o rule_n declare_v by_o the_o catholic_a roman_a church_n for_o chief_a article_n of_o faith_n before_o those_o father_n time_n which_o he_o urge_v in_o lirinensis_n his_o judgement_n all_o his_o quotation_n of_o antiquity_n in_o defence_n of_o they_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n and_o i_o will_v willing_o see_v where_o the_o roman_a catholic_a church_n by_o her_o declaration_n have_v define_v these_o point_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la before_o the_o age_n of_o those_o father_n which_o the_o jesuite_n produce_v for_o confirmation_n of_o the_o same_o but_o notwithstanding_o he_o go_v a_o by_o way_n and_o follow_v not_o his_o answerer_n yet_o i_o will_v not_o leave_v he_o but_o take_v some_o brief_a view_v of_o this_o discourse_n also_o and_o first_o he_o except_v against_o the_o scripture_n these_o must_v be_v no_o rule_n whereby_o to_o discern_v chief_a article_n of_o faith_n from_o indifferent_a opinion_n in_o religion_n nay_o to_o make_v scripture_n the_o rule_n be_v but_o to_o shake_v hand_n with_o all_o condemn_a heretic_n 96_o reply_v pag._n 96_o and_o this_o he_o tell_v we_o he_o have_v already_o discover_v but_o fear_v lest_o it_o be_v in_o conceit_n and_o opinion_n only_o he_o be_v here_o resolve_v further_a to_o prosecute_v the_o same_o and_o lay_v this_o for_o his_o ground_n there_o be_v many_o confess_v point_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v not_o in_o any_o sort_n express_v or_o as_o much_o as_o once_o touch_v by_o the_o scripture_n ibid._n scripture_n ibid._n sure_o they_o be_v of_o the_o popish_a creed_n or_o not_o at_o all_o for_o the_o catholic_a church_n teach_v none_o as_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o what_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n praedicaverant_a scripture_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la non_fw-la scripto_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 11_o dico_fw-la illa_fw-la omne_fw-la scripta_fw-la esse_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la omnibus_fw-la necessaria_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la ipsi_fw-la palam_fw-la omnibus_fw-la vulgo_fw-la praedicaverant_a yet_o he_o will_v prove_v his_o proposition_n from_o augustine_n the_o apostle_n true_o say_v s._n augustine_n as_o he_o be_v urge_v by_o the_o jesuite_n have_v not_o deliver_v any_o thing_n concern_v this_o point_n but_o that_o custom_n which_o be_v allege_v against_o cyprian_a ought_v to_o be_v hold_v to_o have_v be_v derive_v from_o their_o tradition_n 96_o tradition_n reply_v pag._n 96_o but_o what_o point_n be_v this_o rebaptization_n a_o point_n as_o far_o from_o the_o foundation_n as_o rome_n from_o heaven_n that_o only_o concern_v the_o manner_n &_o forâ—â—_n of_o 〈◊〉_d baptism_n what_o point_v else_o
that_o the_o most_o reverend_a primate_n in_o that_o historical_a explanation_n do_v not_o descend_v to_o the_o age_n of_o wickliâ—â—_n or_o husse_n and_o therefore_o can_v not_o bring_v they_o in_o for_o pillar_n of_o his_o successive_a church_n the_o jesuite_n further_o tell_v we_o that_o they_o be_v confess_v to_o be_v damn_v heretic_n 11â—_n heretic_n reply_v â—_o 11â—_n but_o bring_v not_o any_o testimony_n for_o the_o same_o he_o that_o speak_v most_o bitter_o be_v o_fw-fr sâ—aâ—der_n against_o the_o waldense_n who_o tax_v their_o opinion_n as_o absurd_a etc._n etc._n but_o i_o hope_v we_o be_v not_o tie_v to_o believe_v he_o where_o it_o be_v apparent_a he_o be_v altogether_o deceive_v that_o the_o most_o learned_a and_o holy_a bishop_n iâ—well_n do_v cast_v off_o the_o waldense_n as_o none_o of_o we_o may_v be_v impute_v to_o this_o that_o he_o behold_v they_o as_o their_o persecutor_n paint_v they_o out_o with_o spot_n of_o maâ—ichâ—isme_n and_o other_o heretical_a error_n but_o if_o the_o jesuite_n will_v read_v that_o discourse_n which_o he_o cavil_v at_o he_o shall_v see_v that_o the_o heresy_n impute_v to_o thâ—m_n be_v breed_v in_o the_o malicious_a mind_n of_o papist_n who_o do_v therefore_o fâ—igâ—â—_n these_o opinion_n to_o be_v they_o because_o they_o reproach_v their_o dissolute_a life_n and_o no_o otherwise_o alâ—â—â—â—_n otherwise_o girard_n histor_n franc._n lib._n 10._o quam_fw-la vis_fw-la pravis_fw-la iâ—buti_fw-la â—â—erint_fw-la opinionibus_fw-la non_fw-la hoc_fw-la taâ—en_fw-la tantum_fw-la papae_fw-la &_o magnorum_fw-la principum_fw-la odium_fw-la in_fw-la â—os_v concitabat_fw-la quantum_fw-la libertas_fw-la orationis_fw-la quâ_fw-la dicâ—oâ—um_fw-la principum_fw-la atque_fw-la ecclesiasticorum_fw-la vitia_fw-la &_o morâ—s_fw-la dissolâ—tos_fw-la culpare_fw-la ipsiusque_fw-la papae_fw-la vitam_fw-la &_o action_n reprehendere_fw-la consâ—everunt_fw-la haec_fw-la praecipua_fw-la res_fw-la fuit_fw-la quae_fw-la universorum_fw-la â—is_fw-la conâ—â—avit_fw-la odium_fw-la quaeque_fw-la â—ffecit_fw-la ut_fw-la plures_fw-la â—efariâ—_fw-la affingerentur_fw-la â—is_fw-la opiniones_fw-la à _fw-la quibble_n 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—â—ant_a alâ—â—â—â—_n three_o say_v the_o jesuite_n both_o luther_n himself_o and_o all_o his_o follower_n do_v make_v he_o the_o first_o author_n of_o protestancy_n 110._o protestancy_n reply_v pag_n 110._o what_o luther_n the_o first_o that_o ever_o teach_v the_o doctrine_n profess_v by_o protestant_n those_o that_o be_v better_o read_v in_o story_n than_o our_o jesuite_n confess_v otherwise_o for_o poplinerius_fw-la acknowledge_v the_o waldense_n and_o protestant_n to_o differ_v little_a and_o that_o this_o doctrine_n be_v preach_v and_o defend_v throughout_o europe_n in_o france_n spain_n england_n italy_n germany_n and_o other_o nation_n also_o defenderunt_fw-la also_o popliâ—er_n hist_o franc._n lib._n 1._o â—dit_n aâ—_n 1581._o fol_z 7._o b_o he_o albigenses_n invitis_fw-la principibus_fw-la 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