under_o they_o but_o they_o all_o be_v stranger_n from_o the_o life_n of_o god_n yea_o most_o averse_a and_o opposite_a yea_o cruel_a and_o bloody_a persecutor_n of_o the_o name_n and_o follower_n of_o jesus_n and_o yet_o unto_o these_o be_v subjection_n command_v now_o than_o i_o argue_v if_o paul_n have_v command_v this_o subjection_n to_o roman_a magistrate_n in_o spiritual_a cause_n to_o defend_v the_o truth_n to_o punish_v heretic_n neither_o of_o which_o they_o can_v discern_v nor_o judge_v of_o but_o by_o trust_n from_o other_o as_o pilate_n condemn_v jesus_n he_o must_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o man_n have_v put_v out_o the_o eye_n of_o faith_n and_o reason_n and_o sense_n at_o once_o defender_n not_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o man_n for_o beside_o calvin_n and_o beza_n who_o judgement_n you_o have_v hear_v all_o those_o interpreter_n who_o expound_v this_o place_n in_o the_o roman_n of_o the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o punish_v spiritual_a evil_a doer_n as_o 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civil_a magistrate_n studious_a of_o truth_n as_o all_o aught_o to_o be_v and_o the_o judgement_n of_o discretion_n unto_o all_o christian_n but_o as_o for_o such_o magigistrate_n as_o be_v mere_o natural_a and_o pagan_a though_o christian_n be_v bind_v to_o subject_v themselves_o unto_o they_o with_o patience_n yet_o such_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o forbear_v the_o exercise_n of_o their_o power_n either_o in_o protect_v or_o punish_v matter_n of_o religion_n till_o they_o have_v learn_v so_o much_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n as_o may_v enable_v they_o to_o discern_v of_o thing_n that_o differ_v but_o this_o forbearance_n of_o they_o be_v not_o for_o want_v of_o authority_n in_o their_o calling_n nor_o for_o want_v of_o duty_n in_o their_o conscience_n but_o for_o want_v of_o evidence_n to_o they_o in_o the_o cause_n in_o which_o case_n magistrate_n be_v wont_a to_o forbear_v their_o exercise_n of_o their_o power_n and_o to_o respite_n judgement_n even_o in_o civil_a cause_n not_o for_o want_v of_o authority_n or_o duty_n to_o do_v justice_n but_o for_o want_v of_o ripe_a and_o full_a cognizance_n of_o the_o cause_n chap._n 49._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 49._o discusser_n why_o then_o do_v paul_n himself_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n act_n 25._o unless_o that_o caesar_n though_o he_o be_v not_o yet_o yet_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v a_o fit_a judge_n in_o such_o matter_n answ_n paul_n appeal_v to_o caesar_n not_o to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o his_o religion_n but_o to_o defend_v he_o from_o civil_a violence_n and_o slanderous_a accusation_n about_o sedition_n mutiny_n civil_a disobedience_n etc._n etc._n from_o which_o caesar_n as_o a_o supreme_a civil_a magistrate_n ought_v to_o defend_v he_o defender_n this_o appeal_n of_o paul_n to_o caesar_n do_v evident_o hold_v forth_o three_o thing_n 1._o that_o there_o be_v a_o lawful_a and_o needful_a use_n of_o civil_a magistracy_n unto_o christian_n 2._o that_o church_n officer_n even_o of_o high_a rank_n the_o apostle_n themselves_o and_o other_o minister_n be_v subject_a to_o civil_a authority_n as_o well_o as_o private_a christian_n 3._o that_o paul_n do_v submit_v to_o caesar_n judgement-seate_n the_o trial_n of_o his_o innocency_n as_o well_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n as_o in_o civil_a conversation_n for_o he_o plead_v his_o innocency_n that_o he_o be_v guilty_a in_o none_o of_o those_o thing_n whereof_o they_o do_v accuse_v he_o and_o for_o trial_n hereof_o he_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n ver_fw-la 11._o now_o the_o thing_n whereof_o they_o do_v accuse_v he_o be_v offence_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o against_o the_o temple_n as_o well_o as_o against_o caesar_n ver_fw-la 8._o and_o offence_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o against_o the_o temple_n be_v matter_n of_o religion_n and_o yet_o even_o in_o these_o paul_n appeal_v to_o caesar_n judgement-seat_n for_o trial_n of_o his_o innocency_n discusser_n but_o if_o paul_n in_o this_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n 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caesar_n and_o that_o to_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n of_o his_o apostolic_a and_o christian_a call_v and_o to_o the_o glory_n of_o his_o religion_n the_o reason_n against_o paul_n appeal_v in_o this_o case_n be_v but_o bul-rush_n chap._n 50._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 50._o discusser_n have_v dispatch_v two_o argument_n against_o the_o sound_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n power_n in_o spiritual_a cause_n in_o rom._n 13._o first_o from_o the_o testimony_n of_o calvin_n and_o beza_n the_o second_o from_o caesar_n incompetency_n and_o insufficiency_n to_o judge_n of_o spiritual_a matter_n i_o come_v now_o to_o the_o three_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o magistrate_n weapon_n he_o have_v a_o sword_n and_o that_o sword_n be_v a_o civil_a sword_n a_o sword_n of_o civil_a justice_n which_o be_v of_o a_o material_a and_o civil_a nature_n serve_v for_o the_o defence_n of_o person_n estate_n family_n liberty_n of_o
in_o a_o way_n of_o hostility_n notwithstanding_o any_o church-power_n if_o ought_v be_v unsound_a in_o this_o deal_n with_o prince_n i_o be_o willing_a to_o hear_v of_o it_o discusser_n another_o while_n when_o prince_n cross_a mr._n cotton_v judgement_n and_o practise_v than_o it_o matter_n not_o what_o the_o profession_n and_o practice_n of_o prince_n be_v for_o say_v he_o their_o profession_n and_o practice_n be_v no_o rule_n to_o conscience_n defender_n if_o prince_n swerve_v from_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o word_n either_o in_o profession_n or_o practice_v their_o own_o profession_n or_o practice_n be_v no_o rule_n either_o to_o themselves_o or_o other_o prince_n ought_v not_o to_o rule_v the_o word_n but_o be_v to_o be_v rule_v by_o it_o but_o see_v the_o notorious_a calumny_n of_o the_o discusser_n so_o represent_v mr_n cotton_n deal_v with_o prince_n as_o if_o he_o make_v his_o own_o judgement_n and_o practice_v the_o rule_n of_o the_o proceed_n of_o prince_n man_n who_o tongue_n be_v their_o own_o may_v speak_v any_o thing_n but_o yet_o such_o as_o fear_v the_o lord_n will_v tremble_v at_o such_o speech_n as_o neither_o express_a truth_n nor_o love_n discusser_n i_o ask_v then_o unto_o what_o prince_n or_o magistrate_n will_v themselves_o or_o any_o so_o persuade_v submit_v to_o as_o unto_o keeper_n of_o both_o table_n and_o nurse_v father_n and_o mother_n to_o the_o church_n first_o will_v it_o not_o evident_o follow_v by_o these_o tenant_n that_o they_o ought_v not_o to_o submit_v to_o any_o magistrate_n in_o the_o world_n in_o these_o case_n but_o to_o magistrate_n just_a of_o their_o own_o conscience_n defender_n we_o subject_n ourselves_o to_o all_o sort_n of_o magistrate_n of_o the_o country_n where_o we_o live_v or_o whether_o we_o come_v whether_o christian_a or_o pagan_a orthodox_n or_o erroneous_a just_a of_o our_o conscience_n or_o unjust_a against_o they_o subject_a ourselves_o i_o say_v either_o in_o active_a submission_n and_o obedience_n when_o they_o command_v according_a to_o god_n or_o in_o passive_a submission_n of_o our_o body_n and_o good_n life_n and_o liberty_n when_o they_o command_v against_o god_n since_o the_o discusser_n conclude_v it_o will_v evident_o follow_v that_o we_o will_v submit_v to_o no_o magistrate_n but_o just_a of_o our_o own_o conscience_n let_v he_o make_v that_o evident_a which_o he_o say_v be_v evident_a or_o else_o let_v he_o say_v he_o be_v evident_o mistake_v né_fw-fr quid_fw-la dicam_fw-la gravius_fw-la discusser_n second_o will_v it_o not_o also_o follow_v that_o all_o other_o conscience_n in_o the_o world_n except_o their_o own_o must_v be_v persecute_v by_o such_o their_o maistrate_n defender_n this_o will_v no_o way_n follow_v unless_o all_o man_n conscience_n in_o the_o world_n do_v err_v fundamental_o and_o obstinate_o after_o just_a conviction_n against_o the_o very_a principle_n of_o christian_a religion_n or_o at_o least_o unless_o they_o maintain_v and_o hold_v forth_o other_o error_n though_o not_o fundamental_o subvert_v religion_n yet_o fundamental_o subvert_v church-order_n and_o civil_a order_n and_o that_o in_o a_o turbulent_a and_o factious_a manner_n for_o in_o these_o case_n only_o we_o follow_v magistrate_n to_o punish_v in_o matter_n of_o religion_n discusser_n and_o last_o be_v not_o this_o to_o make_v magistrate_n but_o step_n and_o stirrup_n for_o themselves_o to_o ascend_v and_o mount_n into_o their_o rich_a and_o honourable_a seat_n and_o saddle_n i_o mean_v great_a and_o settle_a maintenance_n which_o neither_o the_o lord_n jesus_n nor_o any_o of_o his_o first_o messenger_n the_o true_a pattern_n do_v ever_o know_v defender_n how_o this_o power_n ascribe_v to_o magistrate_n not_o by_o i_o but_o by_o the_o body_n almost_o of_o all_o faithful_a minister_n yea_o by_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n themselves_o shall_v make_v magistrate_n stair_n and_o stirrup_n for_o ourselves_o to_o mount_v up_o so_o high_a let_v he_o that_o can_v discern_v it_o make_v it_o appear_v to_o allow_v they_o power_n over_o ourselves_o in_o case_n of_o heretical_a delinquency_n be_v not_o to_o make_v they_o stair_n or_o stirrup_n of_o our_o advancement_n but_o sword_n and_o staff_n if_o need_v be_v for_o our_o punishment_n beside_o i_o wonder_v what_o fancy_n come_v into_o the_o discusser_n mind_n to_o dream_v of_o rich_a and_o honourable_a seat_n and_o saddle_n of_o our_o magistrate_n when_o as_o he_o need_v not_o beignorant_a how_o far_o short_a they_o themselves_o fall_v of_o rich_a and_o honourable_a seat_n and_o saddle_n which_o himself_o interprete_v great_a and_o settle_a maintenance_n last_o i_o suppose_v he_o be_v not_o ignorant_a that_o myself_o against_o who_o he_o be_v please_v by_o name_n to_o write_v this_o invective_n live_v not_o upon_o great_a and_o settle_a maintenance_n but_o according_a to_o that_o which_o he_o call_v the_o true_a pattern_n of_o the_o first_o messenger_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n chap._n 57_o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 60._o discusser_n in_o the_o second_o place_n the_o answerer_n say_v that_o prince_n out_o of_o state-policy_n do_v sometime_o tolerate_v what_o suit_v not_o with_o christianity_n and_o out_o of_o state-necessity_n tolerate_v as_o david_n do_v joab_n against_o their_o will_n but_o then_o the_o answerer_n must_v acknowledge_v with_o i_o that_o there_o be_v a_o necessity_n sometime_o of_o state-toleration_n as_o in_o the_o case_n of_o joab_n and_o so_o his_o former_a affirmation_n general_o lay_v down_o viz_o that_o it_o be_v evil_a to_o tolerate_v seduce_v teacher_n and_o scandalous_a life_n be_v not_o due_o weigh_v in_o the_o balance_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n and_o be_v too_o light_a defender_n i_o easy_o acknowledge_v sometime_o a_o necessity_n of_o state_n toleration_n as_o i_o have_v former_o express_v in_o chap._n 53._o especial_o in_o two_o case_n whereof_o that_o of_o joab_n be_v one_o but_o that_o will_v nothing_o impeach_v the_o truth_n of_o my_o former_a affirmation_n deliver_v in_o general_a term_n especial_o if_o it_o be_v weigh_v in_o the_o balance_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n for_o the_o holy_a writing_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n do_v express_o deliver_v the_o like_a position_n in_o like_a general_a term_n as_o moses_n say_v who_o so_o shed_v man_n blood_n by_o man_n shall_v his_o blood_n be_v shed_v this_o law_n be_v deliver_v in_o general_a term_n and_o yet_o though_o joab_n be_v a_o murderer_n he_o be_v tolerate_v to_o live_v all_o the_o reign_n of_o david_n yet_o i_o hope_v the_o discusser_n will_v not_o say_v that_o general_a law_n of_o moses_n be_v not_o due_o weigh_v in_o the_o balance_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n and_o be_v too_o light_a discusser_n i_o affirm_v second_o that_o that_o state-policy_n and_o state-necessity_n which_o permit_v conscience_n of_o man_n will_v be_v find_v to_o agree_v most_o punctual_o with_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o best_a politition_n that_o ever_o the_o world_n see_v the_o lord_n jesus_n himself_o who_o command_v the_o permit_v of_o the_o tare_n to_o wit_n antichristian_o or_o false_a christian_n with_o true_a christian_n as_o i_o have_v discourse_v above_o defender_n that_o discourse_n have_v be_v examine_v above_o and_o find_v too_o light_a so_o far_o as_o it_o cross_v the_o truth_n return_v in_o answer_n to_o the_o letter_n to_o permit_v some_o antichristian_o or_o false_a christian_n the_o answer_n to_o the_o letter_n do_v allow_v unless_o they_o maintain_v fundamental_a heresy_n against_o the_o foundation_n of_o religion_n and_o that_o obstinate_o after_o conviction_n and_o do_v withal_o seduce_v other_o into_o the_o same_o apostasy_n but_o as_o for_o such_o heretic_n and_o seduce_a teacher_n i_o hope_v it_o have_v be_v clear_v they_o be_v none_o of_o those_o tare_n of_o which_o christ_n say_v let_v they_o alone_o beside_o it_o be_v a_o interpretation_n of_o christ_n word_n former_o give_v and_o not_o to_o be_v reverse_v that_o if_o by_o tare_n be_v mean_v such_o gross_a 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