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A17576 The pastor and the prelate, or reformation and conformitie shortly compared by the word of God, by antiquity and the proceedings of the ancient Kirk, by the nature and use of things indifferent, by the proceedings of our ovvne Kirk, by the vveill of the Kirk and of the peoples soules, and by the good of the commonvvealth and of our outvvard estate with the answer of the common & chiefest objections against everie part: shewing vvhether of the tvvo is to be follovved by the true Christian and countrieman. Calderwood, David, 1575-1650. 1628 (1628) STC 4359; ESTC S107402 71,807 74

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of excesse and superfluitie And he hath but one body so he undertaketh but one Cure where he must be resident and one Kirk living which for feare of the censures of the Kirk albeit he would he dares not delapidate but must leaue the Kirk patrimonie in as good or better case then he found it at his entry The PRELATE hath a Lords rent out of the revenewes of the Kirk which at the first was destinate and should be employed for better uses and this he hath not for the service of the Kirk but partly for his unlawfull attending civill affaires and partly for bearing out a Lordly porte in himselfe his Ladie their children and followers He uniteth Kirks farre distant to maki the morsell the greater for his wide gorge he alloweth and defendeth pluralities and Nonresidencies by setting long taks without knowledge or consent of the Kirk and by setting of fewe formes and taxwardes he raketh up all and stinteth the Minister to a poore stipendiarie portion of fiue hundreth marks So that the most Sacrilegious persons in the Land are the Bishops themselues eating the meate out of the mouthes of many worthy pastors that labour painfully in the Lords worke The Prelates objection THE PRELATE will object that there shall never be any forme of Kirk government or discipline which bringeth not with it some dangers and discommodities and that must be the best which hath the fewest It cannot be denyed but the Episcopall gouvernment hath also the owne inconvenients whether we consider the Salvation of Soules or the outward constitution of the Kirk and worship of God or the patrimonie of the Kirk But the Anarchie and confusion which ever attendeth the paritie maynteyned by the Pastor is an inconvenience greater then all sheweth plainly that the paritie of Pastors is neyther of God nor can serve for the good of the Kirk for God is not the God of confusion but of peace and most of all in the Kirks of the Saincts The Pastors answer THE gouvernment and order appoynted by Christ can haue no danger discommoditie nor inconvenience but such as men bring upon it and which through the neglect or contempte thereof they bring upon themselues That therefore must be the best which is best warranted by Christ and approacheth nearest to the simplicitie of the Apostles and the discipline of their times Malignant wits haue ever beene readie to lay imputations upon Gods ordinances as that his inward worship according to the Gospell of Christ hath no wisedome that the outward hath no majestie that his order of the Kirk is but Anarchie because it is not a monarchie but as the naturall philosopher sayth the order of nature to be full of beautie and the wise Statesman seeth the beautie of the order of a wise policie so the Christian when he seeth the order of the house of God shall with the Apostle Col. 2. rejoyce to see it and will preferre the beautie thereof to the wise government of the house Court of Salomon as being appointed by a wiser then hee euen Balaam albeit disposed to curse when his eyes are opened to behold this wise order and marvelous beautie shall be forced to open his lips and to say How goodly are thy tents o Iacob and thy tabernacles to Israell for a house full of silver and gold I would not curse for how shall I curse whom the Lord hath not cursed or how shall I defye whom the Lord hath not defyed Numb 23. and 24. And that there is no confusion in the paritie mainteyned by the Pastor it is manifest to him that desireth to see for 1. Confusion hath no subordination for disposing of things and setting every thing in it owne place The paritie mainteyned by the Pastor hath a lawfull subordination of Elders to Pastors of Deacons to Elders of a Kirk Session to a presbyterie of a presbyterie to a Synode and of a Synode to a Nationall Assembly 2. Confusion hath no prioritie of respect of precedencie nor of order Paritie of pastors so shunneth ambitiō that it mainteyneth a prioritie of precedencie and respect for age for zeale for gifts c. and a prioritie of order whereby one is moderator of others in all their Synods and meetings such as was amongst the Apostles themselues but without prioritie of power or jurisdiction aboue the rest 3. Confusion admitteth no commandement nor subjection Paritie of Pastor admitteth both for every Pastor conducteth his owne flock every pastor is subject to a joynt fellowship of pastors in Presbyteries and Synods 4. Confusion is abhorred both by nature and all Societies as their greatest enemie which overturneth all where it hath place Paritie of Pastors hath the like paritie both in nature and all sorts of societie for in nature one eye hath not power over another nor one hand over another nor one foote over another onely the head hath power over all In the common-wealth and kingdome there is a paritie without a prioritie of power of jurisdiction betwixt one Baron and another betwixt one Nobleman and another and in all the Collegiall jurisdictions in the Land under the King himselfe In the worlde paritie betwixt one King and another In the Roman Kirk equalitie betwixt one Lord Bishop and another and betwixt two Archbishops Patriarks c. and in the Kirk of Christ betwixt Apostle and Apostle c. why then shall the divine paritie of Pastors be accounted a confusion THE SIXTH PART The Pastor Prelate compared by the good of the Common wealth and of our outward estate ALbeit that sometimes the povver Ecclesiasticall be without the secular and the members of the Kirk make not any civill corporation as in the Apostles times long after And some times the secular power be vvithout the ecclesiasticall and the members of kingdomes and corporations make not a Kirk as amongst the Heathen of old and many nations and societies this day yet is it farre best both for Religion and Justice both for trueth and peace both for Kirk and Commonvvealth when both are joyned in one vvhen the Magistrate hath both svvords the use of the temporall svvord and the benefite of the spirituall svvord and vvhen the Kirk hath both svvords the use of the spirituall sword and the benefite of the temporall When the two administrations civill and ecclesiasticall like Moses and Aaron help one another mutually neyther Aaron and Miriam murmur against Moses nor Jeroboam stretcheth out his hand against the man of God Upon the one part civill authoritie mainteyneth and defendeth religion vvhere it is reformed and reformeth religion vvhere it is corrupted Kings shall be thy foster-fathers and Queenes thy nurse mothers Kings serue the Lord in fear And then serue they the Lord sayth Augustine vvhen they serue him not onely faythfully as men but as Kings and doe such things in serving him as none can doe but kings that is vvhile they rest not till