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Teleiosis, or, An exercitation upon confirmation the ancient way of completeing church-members ... : to which are annexed some directions for the putting of it into practice ... / by Jonathan Hanmer ...
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Hanmer, Jonathan, 1606-1687.
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ancient_a institution_n of_o the_o father_n that_o any_o one_o who_o in_o heresy_n be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o trinity_n when_o he_o return_v to_o the_o holy_a church_n be_v recall_v into_o the_o bosom_n of_o the_o mother_n the_o church_n either_o by_o the_o unction_n of_o chrism_n or_o by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n or_o by_o the_o only_a profession_n of_o the_o faith_n the_o great_a contest_v and_o controversy_n hereabout_a that_o fall_v out_o beteen_fw-mi the_o famous_a cyprian_a bishop_n of_o carthage_n with_o the_o african_a bishop_n and_o stephen_n bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o those_o that_o join_v with_o he_o be_v notorious_o know_v the_o one_o viz._n cyprian_n maintain_v that_o such_o as_o be_v baptize_v by_o heretic_n upon_o their_o return_n to_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v by_o rebaptization_n but_o the_o other_o only_o by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n that_o which_o be_v the_o subject_n of_o this_o exercitation_n be_v imposition_n of_o hand_n in_o confirmation_n which_o from_o the_o matter_n after_o some_o while_n make_v use_v of_o therein_o be_v by_o ancient_n frequent_o if_o not_o most_o call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o unction_n or_o chrism_n wherewith_o the_o confirm_a be_v wont_a to_o be_v anoint_v but_o here_o we_o be_v to_o take_v notice_n that_o the_o unction_n which_o they_o speak_v of_o be_v twofold_a which_o be_v to_o be_v distinguish_v for_o the_o better_a understanding_n of_o they_o 1._o 7._o 1._o and_o follow_v abrenunciation_n and_o exorcism_n vbi_fw-la pontifex_fw-la tradit_fw-la hominem_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la toto_fw-la corpore_fw-la tanquam_fw-la athletam_fw-la inungendum_fw-la arcopagit_n de_fw-fr eccles_n hierarch_n cap._n 2._o §._o 7._o that_o which_o immediate_o precede_v baptism_n 2._o that_o which_o follow_v for_o the_o most_o part_n immediate_o after_o baptism_n forehead_n baptism_n and_o be_v only_o the_o anoint_v of_o the_o forehead_n and_o of_o both_o these_o mention_n be_v make_v by_o justine_n martyr_n or_o whoever_o be_v the_o author_n of_o those_o question_n propound_v to_o the_o orthodox_n 137._o quaest_n 137._o qui_fw-la fit_a inquit_fw-la ut_fw-la primùm_fw-la ungamur_fw-la âleo_fw-la deinde_fw-la peractis_fw-la in_o lavacro_fw-la mo_z imentis_fw-la illis_fw-la unguento_fw-it posteà _fw-la consignemur_fw-la how_o be_v it_o say_v he_o that_o first_o we_o be_v anoint_v with_o oil_n than_o baptism_n be_v perform_v we_o be_v afterward_o sign_v with_o oil_n somewhat_o this_o way_n seem_v to_o sound_v the_o word_n of_o tertullian_n caro_fw-la abâuitur_fw-la ut_fw-la anima_fw-la emaculetur_fw-la rect_v lib._n de_fw-fr resur_n rect_v caro_fw-la ungitur_fw-la ut_fw-la anima_fw-la consecretur_fw-la caro_fw-la signatur_fw-la ut_fw-la anima_fw-la muniatur_fw-la caro_fw-la manus_fw-la impositione_n adumbratur_fw-la we_o anima_fw-la spiritu_fw-la illuminerur_n the_o body_n or_o flesh_n be_v wash_v that_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v cleanse_v the_o body_n be_v anoint_v that_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v consecrate_v the_o body_n be_v sign_v that_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v fence_v the_o body_n be_v shadow_v by_o the_o imposition_n of_o the_o hand_n that_o the_o soul_n by_o the_o spirit_n may_v be_v enlighten_v of_o this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n confirmation_n or_o unction_n for_o all_o three_o name_n be_v give_v to_o the_o same_o thing_n that_o i_o may_v speak_v the_o more_o clear_o and_o distinct_o we_o be_v to_o know_v that_o in_o the_o primitive_a time_n among_o those_o that_o be_v of_o and_o belong_v to_o the_o church_n be_v such_o as_o be_v call_v and_o common_o know_v by_o the_o name_n of_o catechuman_n be_v the_o low_a rank_n or_o classis_fw-la and_o as_o it_o be_v the_o seed-plot_n and_o nursery_n of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o these_o there_o be_v two_o sort_n 1._o such_o as_o be_v heathen_n and_o infidel_n by_o birth_n yet_o by_o some_o mean_n or_o other_o begin_v to_o relish_v and_o embrace_v the_o christian_a religion_n and_o let_v it_o not_o seem_v strange_a that_o i_o insert_v these_o into_o the_o number_n of_o such_o as_o be_v within_o the_o church_n see_v they_o be_v in_o some_o sort_n true_o so_o and_o be_v so_o account_v of_o the_o church_n take_v cognizance_n and_o care_n of_o they_o yea_o and_o make_v some_o suitable_a provision_n for_o they_o as_o such_o thus_o that_o inquisitive_a antiquary_n albaspinaeus_n 3._o observat_fw-la lib._n 2._o cap._n 3._o inter_fw-la caeteros_fw-la ritus_fw-la quibus_fw-la olim_fw-la formabantur_fw-la catechumeni_fw-la minutis_fw-la quibusdam_fw-la sacramentis_fw-la utebatur_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la solùm_fw-la ut_fw-la mysteriorum_fw-la rudes_fw-la eucharistiae_fw-la paulatim_fw-la assuescerent_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la ut_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la christianae_n semina_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o ipsâ_fw-la auditione_n animus_fw-la combiberant_a horum_fw-la sacramentorum_fw-la usu_fw-la foverent_a nam_fw-la quamvis_fw-la corporis_fw-la christi_fw-la perfecta_fw-la illi_fw-la &_o omnino_fw-la formata_fw-la membra_fw-la non_fw-la erant_fw-la ut_fw-la cunque_fw-la tamen_fw-la ei_fw-la adhaerebant_fw-la christianitatisque_fw-la spiritum_fw-la quodammodò_fw-la ducere_fw-la incipiebant_fw-la among_o other_o ceremony_n by_o which_o of_o old_a the_o catechuman_n be_v form_v the_o church_n do_v use_v certain_a minute_n sacrament_n not_o only_o by_o little_a and_o little_a to_o accustom_v they_o to_o the_o eucharist_n who_o be_v ignorant_a of_o those_o mystery_n but_o also_o that_o the_o seed_n of_o christian_a life_n which_o by_o hear_v they_o have_v drink_v into_o their_o heart_n may_v be_v cherish_v by_o the_o use_n of_o these_o sacrament_n for_o although_o they_o be_v not_o perfect_a and_o altogether_o form_v member_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n yet_o however_o they_o do_v adhere_v to_o it_o and_o begin_v after_o a_o sort_n to_o draw_v the_o breath_n of_o christianity_n among_o those_o minute_n sacrament_n i_o conceive_v be_v their_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d or_o hallow_a bread_n benedicti_fw-la frusta_fw-la panis_fw-la benedicti_fw-la which_o be_v distribute_v to_o these_o as_o well_o as_o to_o such_o as_o be_v absent_a from_o the_o assembly_n thus_o that_o excellent_o learn_v casaubon_n 33._o exercitat_fw-la 16_o §._o 33._o a_o man_n eminent_o skilful_a in_o antiquity_n dabantur_fw-la inquit_fw-la eaedem_fw-la eulogiae_fw-la &_o catechumenis_fw-la qui_fw-la jus_o sumendae_fw-la eucharistiae_fw-la non_fw-la habebant_fw-la itaque_fw-la hoc_fw-la erat_fw-la illis_fw-la loco_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la atque_fw-la adeò_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la quoddam_fw-la hoc_fw-la illis_fw-la er_fw-mi at_z ita_fw-la disertè_fw-la appellat_fw-la augustinus_n laxiore_fw-la videlicet_fw-la notione_fw-la quia_fw-la precibus_fw-la sanctificabatur_fw-la ac_fw-la propterèa_fw-la panem_fw-la illum_fw-la vocarunt_fw-la etiam_fw-la ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d quoniam_fw-la locum_fw-la obtinebat_fw-la ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d i_o e._n eucharistiae_fw-la so_o also_o our_o learned_a dr._n field_n 12._o of_o the_o church_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 12._o these_o say_v he_o be_v in_o vistibulo_fw-la pietatis_fw-la like_o child_n form_v and_o fashion_v in_o the_o womb_n though_o not_o yet_o bring_v forth_o these_o be_v within_o as_o the_o apostle_n speak_v 1_o cor._n 5.12_o though_o not_o by_o that_o solemn_a outward_a and_o sacramental_a admission_n which_o they_o do_v desire_n yet_o in_o desire_n purpose_n &_o preparation_n fit_v they_o unto_o it_o 5_o in_o tertul_n the_o penitent_a in_o notis_fw-la in_o disput_fw-la taborit_fw-fr homil._n ad_fw-la baptizandos_fw-la tom_fw-mi 5_o rhenanus_fw-la therefore_o call_v they_o tirones_fw-la fidei_fw-la christianae_n and_o say_v lydius_n erant_fw-la quasi_fw-la hospites_fw-la &_o vicini_fw-la fidelium_fw-la chrysostome_n style_v they_o brethren_n o_o quam_fw-la dulcis_fw-la inquit_fw-la ist_fw-mi a_o fratrum_fw-la caterva_fw-la convenit_fw-la o_o quà m_fw-la suavis_fw-la dilectissimorum_fw-la caetus_fw-la inspicitur_fw-la fratres_fw-la enim_fw-la vos_fw-la &_o ante_fw-la dolores_fw-la partus_fw-la nomina_fw-la &_o ante_fw-la cognationis_fw-la affectionem_fw-la vocabulo_fw-la charitatis_fw-la appello_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la epist_n 155_o loc._n theolog._n tom_n 3._o de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la augustine_n also_o write_v to_o martianus_n a_o chatecumen_n give_v he_o the_o title_n of_o fratrem_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la dilectissimum_fw-la a_o most_o belove_a brother_n in_o christ_n gerard_n by_o divers_a argument_n prove_v they_o to_o be_v believer_n and_o therefore_o of_o the_o church_n yea_o some_o of_o they_o lay_v down_o their_o life_n for_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n be_v enrol_v and_o count_v in_o the_o number_n of_o martyr_n two_o such_o come_v out_o of_o the_o school_n of_o origen_n 3._o euseb_n hist_o lib._n 6._o cap._n 3._o viz._n heraclides_fw-la and_o râais_n a_o woman_n in_o who_o baptismus_fw-la sanguiniâ_n serve_v in_o the_o stead_n and_o supply_v the_o want_n of_o baptismus_fw-la flumiâis_fw-la in_o a_o word_n these_o seem_v to_o be_v like_o one_o sort_n of_o proselyte_n among_o the_o jew_n to_o wit_n those_o who_o be_v know_v by_o the_o name_n of_o proâelâae_fw-la poriae_fw-la the_o proselyte_n or_o stranger_n of_o or_o within_o the_o gate_n 4_o weems_n synagog_n l._n 1._o câ6_n §._o 4_o stranger_n they_o be_v by_o birth_n and_o religion_n but_o not_o affection_n they_o be_v suffer_v to_o live_v among_o the_o jew_n be_v therefore_o call_v
incoloe_n or_o inquilini_fw-la inhabitant_n but_o neither_o be_v they_o circumcise_v nor_o conform_v themselves_o to_o moysaicall_a rite_n and_o ordinance_n 6._o goodwin_n moses_n and_o aaron_n l._n 1._o c._n 6._o only_o they_o be_v tie_v to_o the_o obedience_n of_o those_o commandment_n which_o among_o the_o hebrew_a doctor_n go_v under_o the_o name_n of_o noah_n seven_o commandment_n viz._n 1._o to_o renounce_v idol_n and_o all_o idolatrous_a worship_n 2._o to_o worship_v the_o true_a god_n under_o which_o be_v contain_v the_o keep_n of_o the_o sabbath_n 3._o to_o commit_v no_o murder_n 4._o not_o to_o heâd_v file_v with_o fornication_n or_o other_o unclean_a conjunction_n 5._o not_o to_o commit_v theft_n and_o robbery_n 6._o to_o administer_v justice_n and_o punish_v malefactor_n 7._o not_o to_o eat_v the_o flesh_n with_o the_o blood_n or_o a_o member_n take_v from_o any_o beast_n alive_a these_o though_o they_o come_v not_o into_o the_o temple_n yet_o be_v they_o admit_v to_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n enter_v only_o into_o the_o uttermost_a court_n 17.4_o mead._n dlatrib_o in_o act_n 17.4_o call_v atrium_n gentium_fw-la and_o the_o hope_n of_o the_o life_n to_o come_v quicunque_fw-la say_v maimonides_n haec_fw-la septem_fw-la precept_n a_o exequenda_fw-la susceperit_fw-la ecce_fw-la be_v est_fw-la ex_fw-la pijs_fw-la gentium_fw-la mundi_fw-la habetque_fw-la partem_fw-la in_o saeculo_fw-la futuro_fw-la whoever_o will_v undertake_v to_o observe_v these_o seven_o precept_n behold_v he_o be_v of_o the_o pious_a of_o the_o gentile_n of_o the_o world_n and_o have_v hope_n in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v and_o these_o this_o ingenious_a author_n mr._n mead_n conceive_v to_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d devout_a or_o worship_v gentile_n so_o often_o mention_v in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n 13.16_o act_n 10.2_o &_o 13.16_o who_o be_v there_o sometime_o also_o style_v ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d man_n fear_v god_n 1._o step._n 1._o this_o first_o sort_n of_o catechuman_n in_o order_n to_o their_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n and_o enjoyment_n of_o full_a membership_n proceed_v by_o these_o step_n or_o degree_n 1._o they_o submit_v themselves_o unto_o teach_v and_o instruction_n be_v catechize_v from_o whence_o they_o have_v the_o name_n of_o catechuman_n in_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n a_o summary_n whereof_o be_v lay_v down_o by_o the_o apostle_n in_o heb._n 6.1_o pudicit_fw-la cyprian_n epist_n 24._o pamel_n in_o annotat._n rhenan_n in_o tertul._n de_fw-la pudicit_fw-la they_o have_v therefore_o a_o special_a officer_n in_o the_o church_n choose_v and_o appoint_v unto_o this_o work_n know_v by_o the_o name_n of_o catechist_n and_o such_o be_v those_o famous_a man_n pantaenus_n clemens_n his_o scholar_n and_o origen_n his_o the_o master_n and_o the_o scholar_n thus_o succeed_v one_o another_o in_o the_o famous_a and_o flourish_a school_n of_o alexandria_n they_o have_v a_o place_n assign_v for_o this_o work_n 4._o bin._n council_n tom_fw-mi 6._o council_n constant_n 4._o which_o therefore_o be_v call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o catechumenium_n to_o these_o catechist_n they_o give_v diligent_a ear_n due_o attend_v upon_o their_o lecture_n wherein_o they_o be_v instruct_v both_o in_o faith_n and_o manner_n suprà _fw-la lydius_n in_o notis_fw-la ut_fw-la suprà _fw-la and_o from_o hence_o be_v they_o call_v audientes_fw-la or_o auditores_fw-la by_o the_o latin_n as_o catechuman_n by_o the_o greek_n for_o the_o same_o reason_n 2._o they_o desire_v baptism_n 2._o step._n 2._o have_v be_v sufficient_o instruct_v in_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o faith_n and_o from_o that_o time_n they_o be_v entitle_v competentes_fw-la because_o they_o do_v join_v together_o in_o the_o request_n of_o baptism_n be_v usual_o many_o of_o they_o because_o only_o two_o solemn_a day_n or_o time_n in_o the_o year_n be_v appoint_v for_o the_o administration_n of_o this_o ordinance_n unto_o they_o viz._n pasche_n or_o easter_n and_o pentecost_n call_v dies_fw-la baptismatum_fw-la and_o the_o number_n of_o these_o competentes_fw-la epitome_n in_o heb._n 6.2_o so_o also_o primasius_n dixit_fw-la baptismata_fw-la efferri_fw-la provarietat_fw-la accipientium_fw-la setm._fw-la 116._o rhenan_n in_o terrul_a de_fw-fr coron_n milit._n ludius_n in_o notis_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la câran_n epitome_n bezâ_n make_v to_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o apostle_n plural_a expression_n baptismatum_fw-la not_o baptismi_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la competentes_fw-la inquit_fw-la augustinus_n xihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la intelligi_fw-la possunt_fw-la nisi_fw-la simul_fw-la petentes_fw-la the_o name_n import_v no_o other_o thing_n then_o such_o as_o ask_v together_o they_o also_o then_o give_v in_o their_o name_n and_o come_v under_o a_o strict_a even_o a_o sevenfold_a examination_n lest_o any_o root_n of_o bitterness_n shall_v remain_v in_o they_o undiscovered_a that_o so_o holy_a thing_n may_v not_o be_v give_v to_o dog_n it_o be_v therefore_o decree_v in_o the_o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n cap._n 85._o baptizandi_fw-la nomen_fw-la suum_fw-la dent_fw-la &_o diu_fw-la sub_fw-la abstinentiâ_fw-la vini_fw-la &_o carnium_fw-la ac_fw-la manus_fw-la impositione_n crebrâ_fw-la examinatione_fw-la baptismum_fw-la percipiant_fw-la let_v such_o as_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v give_v up_o their_o name_n and_o after_o long_a abstinence_n from_o wine_n and_o flesh_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o often_o examination_n let_v they_o receive_v baptism_n 3._o these_o thus_o prepare_v and_o qualify_v be_v admit_v unto_o baptism_n 3._o step._n 3._o by_o the_o participation_n of_o which_o ordinance_n they_o make_v a_o further_a progress_n and_o entrance_n into_o the_o church_n be_v now_o no_o long_o in_o the_o porch_n only_o but_o get_v over_o the_o threshold_n not_o guest_n and_o neighbour_n only_o as_o before_o but_o denizen_n and_o fellow-citizen_n with_o the_o saint_n and_o of_o the_o household_n of_o god_n be_v own_v for_o such_o and_o have_v their_o name_n enrol_v among_o the_o servant_n of_o christ_n 2.19_o ephes_n 2.19_o they_o be_v now_o ascend_v unto_o that_o rank_n know_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o baptizati_fw-la ibid._n baptismus_fw-la voco_fw-la ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d just_o mart._n videtur_fw-la originem_fw-la ducere_fw-la ab_fw-la heb._n 6.4_o ubi_fw-la syrus_n interpres_fw-la vertit_fw-la baptizari_fw-la quia_fw-la in_fw-la baptismo_fw-la initiatus_fw-la eruitur_fw-la de_fw-la potestare_fw-la tenebrarum_fw-la francis_n scorsi_n notae_fw-la in_o theophanis_fw-la homil._n 21._o §._o 8._o exposit_n in_o johan_n tractat_fw-la 11._o ibid._n and_o illuminati_fw-la be_v before_o style_v baptizandi_fw-la and_o illuminandi_fw-la now_o be_v they_o initiati_fw-la and_o enjoy_v great_a privilege_n than_o before_o this_o among_o the_o rest_n that_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v more_o clear_o reveal_v and_o communicate_v to_o they_o which_o be_v conceal_v from_o or_o obscure_o speak_v of_o before_o the_o catechuman_n so_o that_o they_o be_v ignorant_a of_o they_o interrogemus_fw-la catechumenum_fw-la manducas_fw-la carnem_fw-la filii_fw-la hominis_fw-la &_o bibis_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la filii_fw-la hominis_fw-la inquit_fw-la aug._n nescit_fw-la quid_fw-la dicimus_fw-la ask_v a_o catechumen_n do_v thou_o eat_v the_o flesh_n &_o drink_v the_o blood_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n he_o know_v not_o what_o we_o say_v again_o nesciunt_fw-la catechumeni_fw-la quid_fw-la accipiunt_fw-la christiani_n the_o catechuman_n know_v not_o what_o christian_n do_v receive_v i_o can_v say_v say_v cyril_n of_o alexandria_n much_o more_o hereof_o viz._n of_o the_o sacrm_n of_o baptism_n nihil_fw-la revere_a ur_fw-la non_fw-la initiaâorum_fw-la aures_fw-la 7._o contra_fw-la julian_n lib._n 7._o be_v it_o not_o that_o i_o fear_v the_o ear_n of_o they_o that_o be_v not_o initiate_v so_o also_o chrysostome_n cupio_fw-la sunè_fw-la inquit_fw-la clarè_v proffer_v verba_fw-la commentar_n in_o 1_o corinth_n 15.29_o apud_fw-la priscos_fw-la judaeos_fw-la triplex_fw-la fuit_fw-la ratio_fw-la divinas_fw-la literas_fw-la interpretandi_fw-la 1._o dicitur_fw-la ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d quod_fw-la est_fw-la ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d auditio_fw-la cum_fw-la historicum_fw-la sensum_fw-la exponimus_fw-la 2._o voco_fw-la ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d sive_fw-la extensio_fw-la cum_fw-la historicum_fw-la sententiam_fw-la mysticâ_fw-la expositione_n dilatarans_fw-la 3._o est_fw-fr ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d parabolica_fw-la caninius_n in_o commentar_n sed_fw-la propter_fw-la non_fw-la initiatos_fw-la non_fw-la audeo_fw-la nam_fw-la hi_o difficiliorem_fw-la nobis_fw-la interpretationem_fw-la reddunt_fw-la cogunt_fw-la enim_fw-la aut_fw-la non_fw-la clare_v dicere_fw-la nos_fw-la aut_fw-la mysteria_fw-la vulgar_a dicam_fw-la tamen_fw-la sed_fw-la quantum_fw-la fieri_fw-la potest_fw-la adumbrare_fw-la true_o say_v he_o i_o desire_v to_o speak_v plain_o but_o dare_v not_o because_o of_o the_o non-initiâti_a for_o these_o render_v the_o interpretation_n more_o difficult_a to_o we_o for_o they_o constrain_v we_o either_o not_o to_o speak_v clear_o or_o to_o divulge_v the_o mystery_n 43._o casaub_n exercit_fw-la 16._o §._o 43._o viz._n of_o baptism_n yet_o will_v i_o speak_v but_o as_o obscure_o as_o i_o can_v this_o they_o do_v for_o these_o three_o