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A03691 An ansvveare made by Rob. Bishoppe of VVynchester, to a booke entituled, The declaration of suche scruples, and staies of conscience, touchinge the Othe of the Supremacy, as M. Iohn Fekenham, by vvrytinge did deliuer vnto the L. Bishop of VVinchester vvith his resolutions made thereunto. Horne, Robert, 1519?-1580.; Feckenham, John de, 1518?-1585. 1566 (1566) STC 13818; ESTC S104234 173,274 272

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although you were in y e Tower in his time y t was not for any doubt you made of his Supremacie for that you still agnised but for other pointes of Religion touching the ministracion of the Sacramentes wherunto you also agréed at the last promised to professe preache the same in open auditory whersoeuer you should be appointed Wherupon a right woorshipfull gentleman procured your deliueraunce foorth of the Tower and so were you at liberty neuer mencioninge any doubt in this matter but agnising the Princes Supremacie in causes Ecclesiasticall Wherefore I may saulfly say that the ignoraunce and wante of knowledge whiche you pretende in your Minor Proposicion is not of simplicitie and therfore must néedes be of wilfulnes or malice or mixte of bothe The way and meane wherby to haue this ignoraunce remooued you assigne with this issue that when I prooue vnto you by any of the fower meanes y ● any Emperour or Empresse King or Queene may take vppon them any suche gouernment in Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall causes then you wil yéelde take vpon you the knowledge therof be ready to testifie y e same by booke Othe Truely I haue often and many times prooued this same that you require by the selfe same meanes in such sort vnto you that you had nothinge to say to the contrary And yet neuerthelesse you continue stil in your wilfull and malicious ignorance whiche causeth me to feare that this sentence of the holy ghost wilbe verified in you In maleuolam animam non introibit sapientia Yet I will ones againe prooue after your desire euen as it were by puttinge you in remembraunce of those thinges whiche by occasions in conference I often and many times reported vnto you wherof I knowe you are not simply ignoraunt You require a proufe hereof that an Emperour or Emperesse Kinge or Quéene may claime or take vppon them any suche gouernment meanynge as the Quéenes maiestie our Soueraigne doth now chalendge and take vppon her in Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall causes For aunsweare I say they ought to take vppon them suche gouernement therefore they maye lawfully doo it The former parte is founde trewe by the whole discourse of the holy Scriptures bothe of the Olde and newe Testament by the testimony of the Doctours in Christes Churche by the generall Counsailes and by the practise of Christes Catholique Churche thorough out all Christendome The holy Scriptures describinge the condicions and propreties required in a Kinge amongest other doth commaunde that he haue by him the booke of the Lawe and doo diligently occupy him selfe in readinge thereof to the ende he maye thereby learne to feare the Lorde his God that is to haue the feare of God planted within him selfe in his owne harte to keepe all the woordes and to accomplishe in déede all the ordinaunces or as the olde translation hath it all the ceremonies by God commaunded that is to gouerne in suche sorte That he cause by his Princely authoritie his subiectes also to become Israelites To witte menne that see knowe and vnderstande the will of God Redressinge the peruersenes of suche as swerue from Goddes ordinaunces or caeremonies Whereuppon it is that God dothe commaunde the Magistrate that he make diligent examination of the Doctrine taught by any and that he doo sharpely punish bothe the teachers of false and superstitious Religion with the folowers and also remooue quite out of the waye all maner of euill The beste and most godly Princes that euer gouerned Goddes people did perceiue and rightly vnderstande this to be Goddes will that they ought to haue an especiall regarde and care for the orderinge and settinge foorth of Goddes true Religion and therefore vsed great diligence with feruent zeale to perfour●● and accōplishe the same Moses was the supreme gouernour ouer Goddes people was not the chiefe Priest or Bishop for that was Aaron whose authoritie zeale and care in appointinge and orderinge Religion amongest Goddes people prescribinge to al the people yea to Aaron and the Leuites what and after what sorte they shoulde execute their functions correctinge and chasteninge the transgressours is manifestly set foorth in his booke called the Pentateuche After the death of Moses the people as yet not entred and settled in the promised Lande the chardge of chiefe gouernment ouer Goddes people both in causes Temporall and Ecclesiasticall was committed to Iosue and not to Eleazar for to him belonged onely the ministration of the thinges belonginge to the Priestly office And to Iosue the Prince belonged the ouer sight both ouer the Priests and people to gouerne guide order appoint and direct eche estate in all thinges that apperteined to eche of their callinges Of the one yée séeme to haue no doubt at all the other is as plaine For at the appointment of Iosue the Priestes remooued the Arke of couenaunt and placed the same He did interprete vnto the people the spirituall meaninge of the twelue stones whiche they had taken by Goddes commaundement foorth of Iordan to be as Sacramentes or Signes He circūcised the children of Israell at the second time of the great and solempne Circumcision He calleth the Priestes commaundeth some of them to take vp the Lordes Arke other seuen of them to blowe seuen trompettes before the Arke appointeth to them the order of procéedinge He builded an aultar vnto the Lorde God of Israel accordinge to y e Lawe of God he sacrificed theron burnt sacrifices and burnt offringes He wrote there vpon the stones the Deuteronomy of Moses He redde all the blessinges and cursinges as they are set foorth in the booke of the Lawe And he redde all what so euer Moses had commaunded before al the cōgregation of Israel c. Last of al Iosue to shewe that causes of Religion did specially belonge to his charge and care maketh a long and a vehement oration vnto the Israelites wherin he exhorteth them to cleaue vnto the Lorde with a sure faithe a constant hope and a perfect loue obeiynge and seruinge him with suche seruice as he hath appointed in his Lawe And doth zelously and with great threates disswade them from all kynde of Idolatry and false Religion Dauid whom God appointed to be the pastour that is the king ouer Israel to feede his people did vnderstāde that to this pastoral office of a kyng did belong of dutie not only a charge to prouide that the people might be gouerned with iustice and liue in ciuill honestie peace and tranquilite publique and priuate but also to haue a special regarde and care to see them sed with true doctrine and to be fostered vp in the Religion appointed by God him selfe in his Lawe And therfore immediatly after he was with some quietnes setled in his royal seate the first thing that he began to refourme and restore to the right order as a thing y e apperteined especially to his princely charge and care
was Goddes Religion Seruice whiche had been decayed and neglected longe before in the tyme of king Saul For the better perfourmaunce whereof as the supreame gouernour ouer all the estates bothe of the Laytie and of the Clergie in all maner of causes after consultation had with his chief Counsailours he calleth the Priestes and Leuites and commaūdeth appointeth and directeth them in al maner of things causes apperteining to their ecclesiasticall functions offices He prepareth a seemely place for the Arke in his own Citie He goeth with great solēpnitie to fetche the Arke of the lord He commaundeth Sadoc Abiathar the priestes and the chief among the Leuites to sanctifie them selues with their brethren than to cary the Arke vpon their shoulders vnto the place appointed He comptrolleth them that the Arke was not caried before on their shoulders according to the Lawe and therfore layeth to their charge the breach that was made by the death of Vsa He commaundeth also the chief of the Leuites to appointe among their brethren Musicians to playe on dyuers kyndes of instrumentes and to make melodie with ioyfulnes He sacrificeth burnt and peace offringes He blessed the people in the name of the Lorde He appointeth certeine of the Leuites to minister cōtinually before the Arke of the Lord to reherse his great benefites to the honour prayse of the lord God of Israel And for that present tyme he made a Psalme of Gods prayse and appointed Asaph his brethren to prayse God therwith He ordeyned the Priestes Leuites singers and Porters and in som he appointed ordered all th officers offices required to be in the house of the Lord for the setting forth of his seruice Religion Salomon deposed Abiathar the highe Priest and placed Sadoc in his rowme And he builded the Temple placed the Arke in the place appointed for the same Hallowed or dedicated the Temple offred sacrifices blessed the people directed the Priestes Leuites and other churche officers in their functions according to the order before taken by his father Dauid And neither the Priestes nor Leuites ▪ swerued in any thing perteining to their office from that that the king commaunded them Iosephat hath no small commendation in the Scriptures for that he so studiously vsed his princely authoritie in the reformation of Religion and maters apperteining therunto He remoued at the first beginning of his reigne all maner of false Religion and what so euer might be cause of offence to the faithfull He sent forth through his kyngdome Visitours both of his Princes and also of the Priestes Leuites with the booke of the Lawe of the Lorde to the ende they should instruct teache the people refourme all maner abuses in ecclesiastical causes according to that booke After a whyle he made a progresse in his own persone throughout al his countrey and by his preachers reduced and brought againe his people from supersticion false Religion vnto the Lorde the God of their fathers He appointed in euery towne throughout his kingdome as it were Iustices of the peace suche as feared the Lord and abhorred false Religion to decide controuersies in ciuill causes and in like sort he appointed and ordeined the high Priestes with other Priestes Leuites and of the chief rulers among the Israelites to be at Hierusalem to decide and iudge cōtrouersies of great weight that shuld arise about matters of Religion and the Lawe He did commaunde and prescribe vnto the chief Priestes and Leuites what fo●●me and order they shoulde obserue in the ecclesiasticall causes and controuersies of Religion that were not so difficult and weightie And when any token of Goddes displeasure appeared either by warres orother calamitie he gaue order to his subiectes for cōmon praier and enioyned to them publiqu● faste with earnest preaching of repentaunce and sekinge after the wyll of the Lorde to obey and folowe the same Ezechias the kyng of Iuda hath this testimony of the holy Ghost that the like gouernour had not been neither should bee after hym amongest the kynges of Iuda For he cleaued vnto the Lorde and swerued not from the preceptes whiche the Lorde gaue by Moses And to expresse that the office rule and gouernement of a godly kyng consisteth and is occupied accordyng to Gods ordinaunce and precept first of all in matters of Religion and causes Ecclesiastical the holy ghost doth commende this kyng for his diligent care in refourming Religion He toke quite away saith the holy ghost al maner of Idolatry superstition and false Religion yea euen in the first yere of his reigne and the first moneth he opened the doores of Goddes house He calleth as it were to a Synode the Priestes and Leuites be maketh vnto them a long and pithy oration declaringe the horrible disorders and abuses that hath been in Religion the causes and what euils folowed to the whole Realme thervpon He declareth his full determination to restore and refourme Religion according to Gods will He commaundeth them therfore that they laiyng aside all errours ignoraunce and negligence do the partes of faithfull ministers The Priestes Leuites assembled togither did sanctifie them selues and did purge the house of the Lorde from al vncleanes of false Religion at the commaundement of the king concerning thinges of the Lorde That done they came vnto the kyng and made to hym an accompt and report what they had done The kyng assembleth the chiefe Rulers of the Citie goeth to the Temple he commaundeth the Priestes and Leuites to make oblation and sacrifice for whole Israel He appointeth the Leuites after their order in the house of the Lorde to their musicall instrumentes and of the Priestes to play on Shalmes according as Dauid had disposed the order by the counsell of the Prophetes He and the Princes commaundeth the Leuites to prayse the Lorde with that Psalme that Dauid made for the lyke purpose He appointed a very solempne keaping and ministring of the Passeouer whervnto he exhorteth all the Israelites and to tourne from their Idolatry and false Religion vnto the Lorde God of Israel He made solempne prayer for the people The kyng with comfortable wordes encouraged the Leuites that were zelous and had a ryght iudgement of the Lord to offre sacrifices of thankes geuing and to prayse the Lorde the God of their fathers and assigned the Priestes and Leuites to mynister and geue thankes accordyng to their offices in their courses and tournes And for the better continuance of Gods true Religion he caused a sufficient and liberall prouision to bee made from the people for the Priestes and Leuites that they myght wholly cheerfully and constantly serue the Lorde in their vocations These doynges of the kyng Ezechias touchynge matters of Religion and the reformation thereof sayth the holy ghost was his acceptable seruice of the Lorde dutifull both to God and his people Iosias had the like care for Religion
without the authoritie of the Emperours as in all the former generall councels And so at the ende the whole councell put vp a supplication to the Emperour for the ratifiyng of all their doynges The which when the Emperour had heard openly recited and redde vnto them they forthwith alowed signed and sealed Gregorius 3. sent into Fraunce for succour to Charles Martell yelding surrendring vp vnto him that whiche the Pope had so longe sought by all subtile and mischieuous meanes to spoile the Emperour the Princes of This same Gregory the third saith Martinus Poenitentiarius VVhan Rome was besieged by the king of Lombardy sent by Shippe vnto Charles Martell Pipines father the keyes of saint Peters confession beseching him to deliuer the Churche of Rome from the Lombardes By the keies of S. Peters confession he meaneth all the preheminence dignitie and iurisdiction that the Popes claime to them selues more and besides that whiche all other Churche ministers haue ouer and aboue all maner persons Ecclesiasticall or Temporall as geuen of Christe onely to S. Peter for his confession and so from him to the Popes of Rome by lineal successiō Seing that this Pope who was passingly well learned both in diuine and prophane learning and no lesse godly stoute and constant if you wil beleue Platina yeldeth and committeth all this iurisdiction and clayme that he hath ouer all persones Ecclesiasticall and Temporall so well in thinges or causes Ecclesiasticall as Temporall vnto Charles Martel a Lay Prince great maister of Fraūce it appeareth that Princes may Lawfully haue the rule gouernement and charge in Churche matters The heires and successours of this Charles Martell did keepe these keyes from rusting They exercised the same iurisdiction gouernement in Ecclesiastical causes y t the Emperours and kinges had doon from the time of Constantine the great vntill their time which was almost 400. yeres For Carolomanus sonne to kyng Pepin and nephew to Charles Martell no lesse Princelike than Christianly exercised this his Supreme authoritie in Ecclesiasticall causes and made notable reformation of the Ecclesiasticall state He sommoned a councell of his Clergie bothe Bishoppes and Priestes 742. yere from the incarnation of Christe wherein also he him selfe sate with many of his nobles and counsailours He sheweth the cause why he called this Synode That they should geue aduise saith he howe the Lawe of God and the Churche religion meaning the order and discipline may be restored againe whiche in the time of my praedecessours being broken in sonder fell cleane away Also by what meanes the Christian people may attaine to the saluation of their soules and peris he not being deceiued by false priestes He declareth what ordinaunces and decrees were made by his authoritie in that Synode VVe did ordeine Bisshoppes through the Cities saith he by the councell of the Priestes and my nobles and did constitute Bonifacius to be the Archebissop ouer them VVe haue also decreed a Synode to be called together euery yere that the decrees of the Canons and the Lawes of the Churche may be repaired in our presence and the Christian Religion amended c. That the money whereof the Churches haue been defrauded be restored VVe haue degraded the false Priestes Deacons and Clerkes being adulterers and fornicatours and haue driuen them to penaunce We haue vtterly forbidden all maner hunting and haukinge to the Clergie We decree also that euery priest dwelling in y e diocesse be subiect vnto his own bishop that always in Lent he make an accompt shew to the bishop the maner order of his ministery touching baptisme the catholique faith praiers the order of Masses And whāsoeuer the Bishop shal go his circuite to confirme the people the priest shalve ready to receiue him with a collection helpe of the people That y e priest seke for new chrysme always on Maundy thursday at the Bishops hand that y e Bishop may be a witnes of his chast life of his faith and doctrine We decree further that no vnknowen Bishop or Priest be admitted into the church ministery before he be allowed by the Synode He maketh many suche like for the reformation of y ● Clergy in what sort they shalbe punished if thei cōmit whordome likewise against sorcery wytchcraft diuinacions incantations all kinde of prophane superstitiōs If there were no more exāples of any church history but this of Caroloman it woulde suffice to make playne that to the Princes authoritie apperteineth to make Lawes and to the Clergy to geue him counsaile out of Gods worde howe to frame the discipline to the edifiyng of Goddes Churche About this time was one Bonifacius not Pope but as they call him the great Apostle of the Germaines the like for all the worlde to our Apostle here in Englande Augustinus Anglorum Apostolus Either of them might be called the Popes Apostles whose great champions they were And euen suche Ecclesiasticall matters as our Apostle treateth of hath this Apostle in his Epistles to the Pope as this He asketh his holines when fatte bakon should be eaten The Pope aunswereth when it is well smoke dried or resty and then sodden Likewise he asketh whether we shall eate Dawes Crowes Hares and wilde Horses The Pope biddeth him to beware of them in any wise Also he asketh him howe if Horses haue the fallinge sicknesse what we shall doo to them The Pope aunswereth hurle them into a ditche He asketh what we shall doo with Beastes bitten with a madde dogge the Pope biddeth him kepe them close or hurle them into a pitte He asketh if one Nonne may was he an others feete as men may the Pope aunswereth yea on Goddes name Also he asketh howe many Crosses and where aboutes in his body a man shoulde make them These and a great many suche like are the Popes and his Apostles Ecclesiasticall matters But leauyng these tryfles note that in those Ecclesiasticall matt●●s whyche he dyd to any purpose the lay Princes had the entermedling as appeareth by the Pope Zacharias Epistle to this Boniface It is no marueile though this kinge Charloman as also Charles the great and other noble Princes after their time established by their authoritie in Synodes many superstitions and idolatrous obseruances as of Masses Chrysmes and suche like abuses beinge moued with the zeale that all Princes ought to haue But wanting the pure knowledge that good and faithful Bishops should haue instructed them withall seinge suche blynde bussardes as this Boniface had the teachinge of them who like blynde guydes ledde them in the bottomles pit of all supersticions and false Religion Adrianus the first Pope beinge muche vexed through his owne furious pryde by Desiderius kynge of Lombardy sendeth to Carolus Magnus and requireth him of his ayde against the Lombardes promysing to make him therfore Emperour of Rome Charles commeth vanquisheth Desiderius and so passeth into Rome whom the Pope receiued with great honour geuing to him in