Selected quad for the lemma: reason_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
reason_n rule_v will_n wit_n 3,494 5 11.3410 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A09103 A discussion of the ansvvere of M. VVilliam Barlovv, D. of Diuinity, to the booke intituled: The iudgment of a Catholike Englishman liuing in banishment for his religion &c. Concerning the apology of the new Oath of allegiance. VVritten by the R. Father, F. Robert Persons of the Society of Iesus. VVhervnto since the said Fathers death, is annexed a generall preface, laying open the insufficiency, rayling, lying, and other misdemeanour of M. Barlow in his writing. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610.; Coffin, Edward, 1571-1626. 1612 (1612) STC 19409; ESTC S114157 504,337 690

There are 12 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

exorbitant_a perchance_o virulent_a and_o impotent_o passionate_a that_o ever_o appear_v in_o paper_n in_o our_o english_a tongue_n for_o which_o i_o intend_v not_o to_o follow_v he_o any_o further_a step_v by_o step_n and_o foot_n by_o foot_n as_o hitherto_o i_o have_v do_v for_o it_o will_v require_v a_o huge_a volume_n &_o weary_a both_o we_o and_o the_o reader_n with_o the_o impertinency_n thereof_o wherefore_o i_o shall_v in_o that_o which_o be_v to_o ensue_v draw_v the_o rest_n of_o this_o his_o answer_n to_o certain_a particular_a head_n for_o more_o perspicuity_n and_o brevity_n sake_n whereby_o shall_v appear_v how_o worthy_a a_o writer_n he_o be_v and_o well_o deserve_v his_o fee_n that_o run_v into_o such_o absurdity_n error_n ignorances_n corruption_n and_o falsitye_n as_o will_v be_v lay_v against_o he_o wherein_o i_o remit_v myself_o not_o only_o to_o that_o which_o be_v already_o say_v but_o particular_o also_o to_o that_o which_o be_v to_o ensue_v concern_v error_n absurdity_n ignorances_n and_o falsities_n utter_v by_o m._n barlow_n in_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o answer_n chap._n v._n where_o as_o page_n 49._o &_o 50._o of_o my_o letter_n i_o begin_v in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o second_o paragraph_n to_o handle_v whether_o temporal_a obedience_n be_v deny_v unto_o his_o majesty_n by_o those_o that_o refuse_v the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n and_o that_o by_o the_o express_a order_n and_o commandment_n of_o the_o pope_n in_o his_o breve_fw-la as_o the_o apologer_n often_o affirm_v and_o m._n barlow_n still_o avouch_v i_o say_v that_o this_o be_v injurious_a deal_n towards_o we_o who_o ne●er_v deny_v this_o poyn●_n that_o all_o dutiful_a civil_a obedience_n be_v to_o be_v performed●_n and_o that_o it_o need_v not_o to_o cite_v both_o scripture_n father_n and_o counsel_n to_o prove_v the_o say_v temporal_a obedience_n to_o be_v due_a for_o that_o we_o both_o confess_v teach_v and_o persuade_v the_o same_o to_o all_o his_o majesties_n subject_n and_o that_o the_o contrary_n never_o pass_v through_o our_o cogitation_n but_o do_v hold_v say_v i_o and_o tea●h_v that_o subject_n be_v bind_v to_o obey_v their_o temporal_a prince_n conscience_n in_o all_o thing_n lawf●ll_o &_o not_o only_o good_a prince_n but_o bad_a also_o and_o not_o only_o out_o of_o f●●re_n &_o flattery_n as_o some_o do_v but_o out_o of_o conscience_n as_o the_o apostle_n reach_v we_o to_o the_o roman_n propter_fw-la conscientiam_fw-la say_v he_o for_o conscience_n sake_n but_o yet_o not_o contra_fw-la conscien●iam_fw-la against_o conscience_n or_o contrary_a to_o conscience_n against_o which_o clause_n m._n barlow_n very_o learned_o and_o pious_o set_v down_o this_o doctrine_n they_o teach_v say_v he_o that_o the_o prince_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v 160._o propter_fw-mi con●cien●iam●_n n●●_n contra_fw-la conscientiam_fw-la for_o conscience_n sake_n not_o against_o conscience_n that_o be_v no_o sound_a doctrine_n in_o the_o negative_a part_n for_o even_o against_o a_o man_n conscience_n the_o prince_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v unless_o that_o he_o that_o disobey_v c●●_n prove_v his_o conscience_n to_o be_v the_o same_o which_o the_o apostle_n describe_v a_o good_a conscience_n accompany_v with_o true_a love_n and_o ●ayth_v unfeigned_a so_o he_o and_o present_o he_o add_v a_o reason_n out_o of_o sir_n thomas_n more_n one_o o●_n our_o martyr_n as_o he_o call_v he_o and_o we_o worthy_o account_v he_o so_o who_o say_v that_o there_o may_v be_v consci●ntia_fw-la a●●nina_fw-la and_o conscientia_fw-la lupina_fw-la the_o conscience_n of_o a_o as●e_n and_o the_o conscience_n of_o a_o wolf_n wolf_n which_o we_o easy_o grant_v and_o that_o sir_n thomas_n more_o have_v neither_o of_o they_o and_o m._n barlow_n perhaps_o have_v both_o the_o asinina_fw-la in_o make_v this_o ignorant_a &_o impious_a determination_n that_o a_o man_n may_v obey_v prince_n against_o his_o own_o conscience_n and_o the_o lupina_fw-la in_o go_v about_o crafty_o &_o violent_o to_o defend_v it_o by_o the_o show_n of_o scripture_n as_o present_o will_v appear_v for_o albeit_o i_o have_v write_v somewhat_o of_o this_o mat●er_n before_o in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o discussion_n to_o wit_n of_o the_o obligation_n that_o every_o man_n have_v to_o follow_v his_o conscience_n and_o precept_n of_o his_o inward_a reason_n be_v it_o right_n or_o wrong_n so_o long_o as_o it_o stand_v uncontrolled_a yet_o be_o i_o force_v to_o say_v somewhat_o more_o here_o for_o detection_n of_o this_o man_n wilful_a error_n or_o gross_a ignorance_n in_o this_o place_n and_o that_o in_o both_o the_o two_o point_n now_o mention_v concern_v the_o obligation_n that_o man_n have_v not_o to_o do_v against_o their_o conscience_n and_o the_o prescription_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n pretend_v to_o be_v allege_v out_o of_o saint_n paul_n epistle_n to_o timothy_n for_o in_o both_o point_n there_o be_v egregious_a fraud_n if_o not_o foolery_n and_o for_o the_o first_o the_o reader_n must_v understand_v that_o this_o proposition_n so_o assertive_o set_v down_o here_o by_o m._n barlow_n barlow_n that_o even_o against_o a_o man_n conscience_n the_o prince_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v be_v so_o absurd_a and_o impious_a in_o catholic_a christian_a ●ares_n especial_o of_o the_o learned_a as_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o for_o that_o it_o open_v a_o plain_a way_n to_o atheism_n and_o overthrow_v the_o very_a first_o moral_a principle_n of_o virtuous_a action_n in_o we_o to_o wit_n the_o synderisis_z and_o pr●script_n of_o reason_n itself_o that_o god_n have_v by_o nature_n plant_v in_o our_o soul_n for_o our_o government_n and_o direction_n against_o which_o light_n and_o rule_v whosoever_o do_v any_o thing_n willing_o must_v needs_o sin_n whatsoever_o the_o thing_n that_o be_v do_v be_v good_a or_o bad_a the_o reason_n whereof_o be_v for_o that_o the_o goodness_n or_o badness_n of_o any_o thing_n embrace_v by_o our_o will_n depend_v of_o the_o apprehension_n and_o estimation_n thereof_o by_o our_o understanding_n and_o prescript_n of_o reason_n that_o inward_o direct_v the_o say_a will_n so_o as_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v propose_v unto_o our_o will_n for_o example_n sake_n as_o a_o evil_a thing_n and_o with_o that_o apprehension_n embrace_v by_o our_o will_n though_o it_o be_v good_a in_o itself_o yet_o to_o i_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v evil_a for_o that_o i_o do_v it_o think_v it_o to_o be_v a_o evil_a thing_n as_o for_o example_n to_o believe_v in_o christ_n say_v s._n thomas_n in_o itself_o be_v a_o good_a thing_n and_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n 5._o but_o y●t_o the_o will_n of_o man_n do_v not_o embrace_v it_o but_o as_o it_o be_v propound_v unto_o the_o same_o by_o our_o reason_n and_o therefore_o if_o the_o say_a reason_n and_o judgement_n shall_v propose_v it_o as_o a_o evil_a thing_n and_o not_o good_a to_o believe_v in_o christ_n as_o in_o turk_n and_o jew_n it_o do_v and_o that_o the_o will_v notwithstanding_o shall_v choose_v and_o embrace_v it_o as_o it_o be_v propose_v under_o the_o same_o apprehension_n that_o it_o be_v evil_a indeed_o then_o do_v our_o will_n commit_v sin_n for_o that_o in_o her_o conceit_n and_o apprehension_n she_o choose_v and_o embrace_v evil_a and_o though_o in_o itself_o it_o be_v not_o so_o yet_o to_o she_o it_o be_v that_o judge_v it_o so_o do_v notwithstanding_o embrace_v it_o in_o which_o case_n schoolman_n do_v define_v that_o a_o good_a object_n so_o choose_v by_o the_o will_n against_o the_o dictamen_fw-la of_o reason_n and_o conscience_n be_v ●on●m_fw-la s●●pliciter_fw-la and_o secundum_fw-la se_fw-la but_o m●lum_fw-la per_fw-la accidens_fw-la huic_fw-la homini_fw-la si●_n eligenti_fw-la it_o be_v good_a simple_o and_o in_o itself_o but_o accidental_o evil_a to_o this_o particular_a man_n that_o choose_v it_o against_o the_o direction_n of_o his_o judgement_n and_o conscience_n and_o this_o point_n be_v a_o thing_n so_o clear_a in_o nature_n itself_o ●_z as_o that_o aristotle_n in_o his_o ●irst_n and_o seven_o book_n of_o moral_n trea●ing_v o●_n the_o nature_n and_o condition_n of_o the_o incontinent_a man_n show_v that_o a_o man_n may_v be_v incontinent_a two_o way_n one_o way_n proper_o in_o that_o he_o do_v exercise_v any_o act_n that_o appertain_v proper_o a●d_v true_o to_o the_o vice_n of_o incontinency_n the_o other_o way_n accidental_o when_o he_o do_v exercise_v a_o act_n that_o he_o imagine_v and_o persuade_v himself_o ●o_o be_v in_o the_o matter_n of_o incontinency_n and_o be_v not_o and_o yet_o do_v aristotle_n conclude_v this_o man_n to_o be_v incontinent_a for_o ●hat_n his_o will_n do_v disagree_v in_o this_o matter_n from_o his_o reason_n and_o judgement_n make_v choice_n of_o that_o which_o the_o say_a reason_n do_v propound_v unto_o she_o as_o a_o evil_a thing_n wherefore_o according_a to_o these_o principle_n the_o universal_a consent_n both_o of_o philosopher_n a_o divine_n be_v first_o that_o bonitas_fw-la
another_o thing_n may_v be_v to_o consider_v what_o strange_a paradox_n he_o insert_v here_o and_o there_o as_o position_n dogmatic_a which_o who_o so_o list_v in_o practice_n to_o follow_v shall_v either_o have_v no_o religion_n or_o faith_n at_o all_o or_o instead_o of_o christ_n gospel_n the_o turk_n alcoran_n paradox_n for_o example_n what_o more_o gross_a and_o wicked_a assertion_n can_v there_o be_v then_o to_o teach_v that_o king_n even_o against_o our_o conscience_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v for_o thus_o he_o reply_v against_o f._n person_n say_v 160._o that_o king_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v propter_fw-la conscientiam_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la contra_fw-la conscientiam_fw-la this_o say_v m._n barlow_n be_v no_o sound_a doctrine_n in_o the_o negative_a part_n for_o even_o against_o a_o man_n conscience_n the_o prince_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v again_o there_o be_v nothing_o more_o easy_a for_o proof_n or_o evident_a for_o demonstration_n than_o that_o obedience_n be_v to_o be_v enjoin_v ●u●n_v against_o conscience_n if_o it_o be_v erroneous_a and_o leprous_a and_o against_o religion_n if_o forge_v and_o false_o so_o call_v and_o be_v not_o this_o a_o very_a learned_a axiom_n for_o more_o evident_a refutation_n whereof_o let_v we_o suppose_v that_o for_o which_o we_o pour_v forth_o our_o daily_a prayer_n to_o god_n that_o his_o majesty_n be_v as_o all_o his_o noble_a progenetor_n of_o both_o realm_n have_v always_o be_v a_o catholic_n prince_n and_o as_o zealous_a for_o the_o truth_n thereof_o as_o now_o he_o be_v for_o the_o protestant_a cause_n if_o then_o he_o shall_v propose_v unto_o sir_n william_n the_o oath_n of_o supremacy_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n so_o clear_o out_o of_o scripture_n and_o all_o antiquity_n prove_v and_o evince_v to_o be_v true_a but_o yet_o in_o the_o blind_a eye_n and_o leprous_a conscience_n of_o this_o minister_n think_v to_o be_v false_a what_o will_v he_o do_v therein_o will_v he_o swear_v it_o to_o be_v true_a but_o in_o his_o conscience_n he_o think_v it_o to_o be_v false_a and_o against_o the_o scripture_n will_v he_o refuse_v it_o but_o king_n say_v he_o even_o against_o conscience_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v 25._o neither_o do_v he_o help_v the_o matter_n any_o thing_n at_o all_o by_o his_o distinction_n of_o leprous_a and_o erroneous_a conscience_n point_n for_o with_o man_n of_o his_o stamp_n conscience_n be_v like_o a_o chevril_n point_n which_o they_o may_v stretch_v &_o loose_v at_o their_o pleasure_n for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o q._n marry_o they_o be_v hold_v to_o have_v erroneous_a &_o leprous_a conscience_n even_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o great_a divine_v in_o geneva_n who_o manteyn_v that_o woman_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v albeit_o they_o be_v queen_n even_o in_o civil_a and_o temporal_a affair_n but_o within_o one_o year_n after_o this_o error_n and_o leprosy_n be_v so_o transpose_v that_o the_o quite_o contrary_a be_v teach_v and_o they_o be_v not_o only_o hold_v to_o have_v leprous_a and_o erroneous_a conscience_n who_o deny_v civil_a obedience_n but_o be_v condemn_v also_o as_o traitor_n by_o parliament_n if_o they_o do_v deny_v q._n elizabeth_n to_o be_v the_o supreme_a head_n or_o governess_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n so_o that_o it_o be_v not_o only_o lawful_a but_o necessary_a for_o she_o to_o have_v all_o temporal_a and_o ecclesiastical_a government_n in_o her_o hand_n as_o she_o be_v queen_n which_o yet_o in_o q._n mary_n to_o have_v civil_a only_o even_o by_o reason_n of_o her_o sex_n be_v judge_v monstrous_a unnatural_a and_o repugnant_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o law_n of_o god_n many_o other_o example_n may_v be_v produce_v in_o this_o kind_n to_o show_v this_o new_a gospel_n to_o be_v as_o constant_a as_o the_o weathercock_n which_o never_o turn_v but_o when_o the_o wind_n do_v change_v to_o wit_n as_o often_o as_o occasion_n fall_v out_o that_o may_v fit_v their_o purpose_n for_o than_o they_o will_v strain_v all_o conscience_n and_o honesty_n also_o to_o conform_v themselves_o &_o become_v good_a subject_n 26._o much_o like_a unto_o this_o of_o obey_v king_n against_o our_o conscience_n barlow_n be_v his_o other_o profane_a and_o barbarous_a assertion_n of_o the_o supremacy_n of_o the_o heathen_a emperor_n nero_n domitian_n and_o the_o rest_n over_o the_o christian_a church_n yea_o which_o be_v more_o strange_a that_o the_o ancient_a father_n justinus_n martyr_n irenaeus_n tertullian_n and_o other_o acknowledge_v the_o same_o but_o you_o must_v know_v that_o m._n barlow_n in_o cite_v their_o word_n for_o proof_n of_o this_o paradox_n be_v very_o silent_a 99_o howsoever_o with_o all_o confidence_n as_o a_o maxim_n in_o his_o new_a devinity_n uncontrollable_a he_o deliver_v the_o same_o say_v that_o they_o acknowledge_v the_o emperor_n supremacy_n independent_a upon_o any_o but_o god_n and_o a_o little_a after_o that_o queen_n elizabeth_n in_o her_o supremacy_n be_v no_o usurper_n by_o novell-claime_a but_o accept_v what_o god_n himself_o have_v annex_v to_o her_o crown_n out_o of_o which_o i_o first_o note_n that_o by_o this_o doctrine_n the_o great_a turk_n be_v supreme_a head_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n in_o greece_n and_o that_o if_o m._n barlow_n be_v there_o for_o such_o he_o will_v acknowledge_v he_o second_o the_o pythagorical_a manner_n of_o speak_v which_o our_o adversary_n use_n in_o matter_n of_o great_a moment_n and_o controversy_n for_o whereas_o before_o king_n h●nry_n the_o eight_o no_o christian_n king_n ever_o take_v that_o title_n or_o usurp_v any_o such_o authority_n over_o the_o church_n yea_o for_o challenge_v much_o less_o constantius_n be_v call_v antichrist_n both_o by_o s._n athanasius_n and_o s._n hilary_n ●nitium_fw-la these_o man_n without_o all_o proof_n but_o not_o without_o singular_a impupudency_n think_v it_o sufficient_a to_o say●_n that_o the_o king_n be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n that_o he_o be_v so_o acknowledge_v by_o the_o ancient_a father_n that_o not_o only_o a_o woman_n may_v have_v the_o same_o authority_n of_o supremacy_n in_o all_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a but_o that_o also_o the_o heathen_a emperor_n have_v it_o as_o annex_v to_o their_o crown_n and_o imperial_a dignity_n even_o against_o the_o whole_a torrent_n of_o all_o writter_n the_o practice_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n and_o evident_a text_n of_o scripture_n itself_o no_o father_n no_o history_n no_o monument_n no_o show_n or_o shadow_n of_o proof_n or_o authority_n in_o former_a time_n be_v find_v for_o the_o same_o without_o many_o strain_n violent_a enforcement_n or_o ridiculous_a illation_n make_v there-upon_a as_o in_o the_o argument_n of_o the_o protestant_n who_o have_v treat_v this_o controversy_n be_v every_o where_o to_o be_v see_v 27._o last_o the_o reader_n may_v note_v that_o m._n barlow_n be_v so_o poor_a a_o divine_a as_o either_o he_o know_v not_o what_o belong_v to_o matter_n of_o faith_n or_o else_o be_v so_o wicked_a as_o against_o his_o own_o knowledge_n he_o will_v avouch_v that_o for_o true_a which_o be_v check_v even_o by_o his_o own_o brethren_n and_o convince_v by_o common_a sense_n and_o experience_n to_o be_v most_o false_a to_o wit_n that_o the_o protestant_n and_o the_o puritan_n in_o england_n differ_v only_o in_o ma●ters_n cerimoniall_a and_o agree_v in_o all_o essential_a and_o substantial_a point_n concern_v religion_n in_o which_o this_o prelate_n be_v very_o cathegoricall_a for_o ignorance_n as_o himself_o elsewhere_o tell_v we_o out_o of_o father_n and_o philosopher_n 2●2_n though_o he_o cite_v no_o place_n or_o sentence_n be_v the_o mother_n of_o audacious_a assertion_n and_o undertake_n and_o write_v thus_o 120._o fain_o they_o woul●_n possess_v the_o world_n that_o we_o be_v at_o jar_n among_o ourselves_o about_o our_o religion_n whereas_o the_o quarrel_n though_o it_o be_v indeed_o unkind_a yet_o be_v it_o not_o in_o this_o kind_a sau●_n only_o for_o cerimonye_n external_a no_o point_n substantial_a etc._n etc._n so_o he_o which_o though_o it_o be_v kind_o speak_v as_o you_o see_v yet_o he_o must_v give_v i_o leave_v to_o believe_v he_o at_o leisure_n and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n ●o_o ask_v he_o one_o question_n to_o wit_n whether_o the_o protestant_n and_o puritan_n understand_v their_o ow●e_a difference_n that_o be_v between_o they_o or_o not_o if_o not●_n than_o we_o need_v not_o believe_v m._n barlow_n as_o speak_v of_o that_o which_o he_o do_v not_o understand_v if_o they_o do_v how_o come_v it_o to_o pass_v that_o they_o condemn_v each_o other_o of_o idolatry_n heresy_n and_o false_a religion_n as_o any_o may_v read_v in_o the_o survey_v and_o dangerous_a position_n set_v forth_o by_o s●●cliffe_n and_o the_o last_o superintendent_n of_o canterbury_n for_o the_o protestant_n and_o cartwright_n gilby_n m●rtin_n senior_n and_o other_o for_o the_o puritan_n 28._o to_o this_o answer_v m._n barlowes_n comical_a companion_n of_o
out_o of_o plato_n aristophanes_n and_o other_o greek_a author_n may_v be_v prove_v and_o albeit_o i_o will_v not_o stand_v to_o defend_v that_o in_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d m._n barlow_n do_v wrong_a plutarch_n and_o gracchus_n in_o translate_n barlow_n heady_a undertaker_n rather_o than_o magnanimous_a yet_o do_v he_o offer_v they_o open_a injury_n in_o translate_n the_o other_o epithet_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o a_o rash_a speaker_n whereas_o indeed_o it_o signify_v to_o gracc●us_n his_o praise_n a_o prompt_a and_o ready_a man_n in_o speak_v eloquent_a copious_a and_o the_o like_a but_o as_o for_o the_o other_o exprobration_n of_o a_o most_o violent_a spirit_n impatient_a of_o contradiction_n and_o the_o rest_n he_o abuse_v egregious_o both_o gracchus_n &_o plutarch_n for_o not_o only_o be_v those_o reproach_n not_o find_v there_o as_o applyable_a to_o gracchus_n but_o the_o very_a contrary_n be_v say_v of_o he_o and_o therein_o be_v he_o prefer_v before_o his_o brother_n caius_n in_o these_o word_n of_o plutarch_n vul●u_n &_o obtutu_fw-la &_o motu_fw-la bla●d●_n erat_fw-la &_o compositus_fw-la tiberius_n acer_fw-la caius_n &_o vehemens_fw-la deinde_fw-la or_o ati●_n suln●nans_fw-la caij_fw-la dulcior_fw-la tyberij_fw-la pari_fw-la modo_fw-la in_o victu_fw-la &_o mensa_fw-la frugalis_fw-la &_o s●●rplex_v tiberius_n etc._n etc._n lenis_fw-la etiam_fw-la &_o placidus_fw-la confragosus_fw-la alter_fw-la &_o seruidus_fw-la tiberius_n both_o in_o countenance_n and_o motion_n be_v a●●●ble_a and_o compose_v caius_n sharp_a and_o vehement_a and_o consequent_o to_o this_o the_o oration_n of_o caius_n be_v thunder_v but_o those_o of_o tiberius_n more_o sweet_a and_o in_o like_a manner_n tyberi●●_n be_v more_o frugal_a and_o simple_a in_o his_o diet_n and_o table_n than_o his_o brother_n caius_n he_o be_v also_o very_o gentle_a and_o please_v in_o his_o behaviour_n and_o speech_n but_o the_o other_o be_v rough_a and_o fervent_a etc._n etc._n now_o then_o let_v the_o prudent_a reader_n see_v and_o consider_v how_o all_o this_o do_v agree_v to_o the_o description_n of_o tyberi●●_n set_v down_o by_o m._n barlow_n and_o how_o true_a a_o man_n he_o be_v in_o all_o his_o assertion_n and_o how_o false_a soever_o he_o be_v in_o the_o allegation_n certain_a it_o be_v that_o he_o deal_v most_o wicked_o in_o the_o application_n of_o all_o to_o the_o person_n of_o his_o holiness_n that_o now_o live_v and_o this_o much_o shall_v suffice_v about_o this_o matter_n it_o follow_v pag_n 27._o &_o 28._o after_o he_o have_v discharge_v such_o a_o storm_n against_o the_o pope_n own_o person_n as_o now_o you_o have_v hear_v for_o his_o meddle_v in_o this_o oath_n and_o give_v his_o decision_n thereof_o he_o say_v that_o this_o be_v to_o be_v judge_n in_o his_o own_o cause_n allege_v a_o poet_n for_o his_o proof_n about_o sur_fw-fr &_o latro_fw-la one_o plead_v at_o the_o bar_n &_o the_o other_o sit_v at_o the_o bench_n but_o do_v not_o the_o malicious_a man_n see_v that_o this_o his_o cavillation_n touch_v the_o interest_n of_o all_o prince_n as_o though_o they_o may_v not_o be_v judge_n or_o give_v sentence_n in_o case_n wherein_o themselves_o have_v a_o part_n if_o law_n stand_v with_o they_o for_o to_o cause_v other_o man_n to_o do_v it_o in_o their_o name_n by_o their_o authority_n be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o do_v it_o themselves_o and_o what_o do_v the_o pope_n more_o in_o this_o case_n they_o this_o make_o a_o decision_n by_o counsel_n of_o his_o learned_a man_n according_a to_o christian_a law_n that_o this_o case_n of_o england_n touch_v point_n of_o religion_n concern_v the_o sea_n apostolic_a which_o authority_n no_o pope_n can_v infringe_v or_o diminish_v without_o sin_n if_o he_o will_v for_o that_o it_o be_v give_v not_o only_o to_o he_o but_o to_o his_o ant●cessors_n and_o successor_n in_o like_a manner_n to_o endure_v for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o whole_a church_n to_o the_o world_n end_n speak_v but_o say_v m._n barlow_n it_o have_v be_v plain_a deal_n in_o the_o pope_n if_o before_o he_o have_v send_v his_o breve_n of_o interdiction_n he_o have_v acquaint_v his_o majesty_n with_o encounter_n of_o doubt_n that_o breed_v the_o quarrel_n and_o the_o overswaying_a reason_n that_o carry_v he_o to_o the_o negative_a very_o wise_o speak_v and_o worth_a the_o wit_n of_o m._n barlow_n and_o will_v his_o majesty_n have_v admit_v the_o messenger_n or_o message_n who_o see_v not_o that_o there_o be_v nothing_o here_o but_o trifle_v and_o caviling_n but_o i_o may_v add_v also_o scold_a for_o he_o break_v present_o into_o a_o most_o desperate_a blast_n of_o rail_v against_o f._n ●_z call_v he_o scold_v traitorous_a absolom_n that_o care_v not_o to_o set_v his_o ●●●e_a friend_n land_n yea_o to_o see_v his_o native_a soil_n on_o a_o light_a fire_n so_o he_o may_v purchase_v the_o pope_n favour_n all_o which_o be_v speak_v with_o much_o passion_n &_o little_a reason_n for_o that_o the_o probability_n be_v much_o more_o that_o master_n barlow_n flatter_v the_o king_n majesty_n for_o hope_n of_o preferment_n whereof_o he_o be_v capable_a and_o have_v get_v possession_n of_o a_o good_a part_n already_o then_o ●a_o person_n the_o pope_n who_o state_n and_o condition_n of_o life_n have_v no_o need_n of_o such_o preferment_n nor_o can_v it_o be_v prove_v that_o ever_o father_n person_n speak_v for_o a_o fee_n forward_z and_o backward_o as_o m._n barlow_n have_v do_v in_o his_o best_a patroness_n cause_n as_o for_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o six_o council_n of_o carthage_n about_o appellation_n to_o rome_n note_v in_o the_o margin_n it_o be_v not_o worth_a the_o answer_n both_o for_o that_o the_o word_n nor_o sense_n allege_v by_o he_o be_v there_o find_v and_o the_o controversy_n about_o appeal_v to_o rome_n from_o africa_n be_v so_o handle_v by_o i_o at_o large_a in_o my_o last_o reckon_v with_o m._n morton_n 2._o and_o he_o find_v so_o faulty_a and_o defectuous_a in_o that_o accompt●_n as_o if_o m._n barlow_n will_v take_v upon_o he_o to_o pay_v that_o debt_n and_o to_o answer_v that_o only_a paragraph_n for_o he_o i_o shall_v say_v that_o he_o be_v his_o friend_n indeed_o wherefore_o i_o expect_v the_o event_n in_o the_o very_a next_o line_n follow_v m._n barlow_n do_v so_o break_o recite_v my_o word_n about_o m●●●is_fw-la aliena_fw-la 30._o another_o man_n harvest_n for_o so_o do_v the_o apologer_n write_v that_o english_a catholic_n be_v to_o the_o pope_n that_o he_o make_v neither_o i_n nor_o himself_o to_o be_v understand_v read_v i_o pray_v you_o his_o relation_n of_o my_o word_n pag._n 29._o numb_a 5._o and_o see_v whether_o you_o can_v understand_v he_o about_o m●ss●●aliena_n my_o word_n be_v plain_a enough_o for_o thus_o i_o write_v page_n 12._o numb_a 20._o by_o he_o cite_v for_o first_o about_o put_v the_o pope_n hook_n in_o another_o man_n harvest_n apostolic_a suppose_v as_o we_o do_v that_o we_o ●●●a●e_v of_o catholic_a people_n only_o and_o according_a to_o catholic_a doctrine_n and_o in_o matter_n belong_v to_o catholic_a m●ns_n soul_n and_o conscience_n it_o can_v be_v call_v messisali●na_n another_o man_n harvest_n that_o the_o pope_n deal_v in_o england_n with_o such_o kind_n of_o people_n &_o in_o such_o case_n as_o well_o as_o in_o spain_n france_n flaunders_n italy_n germany_n polonia_n and_o other_o state_n and_o kingdom_n for_o that_o they_o be_v no_o less_o appertain_v to_o his_o ●●ock_n care_n charge_n and_o harvest_n than_o the_o rest_n neither_o do_v the_o material_a separation_n of_o our_o island_n separate_v we_o from_o the_o union_n of_o one_o body_n nor_o of_o one_o obedience_n to_o one_o and_o the_o self_n same_o general_a head_n and_o pastor_n no_o more_o than_o it_o do_v from_o the_o union_n of_o one_o belief_n and_o of_o one_o number_n and_o form_n of_o sacrament_n of_o one_o manner_n of_o service_n and_o other_o like_a point_n belong_v to_o the_o internal_a and_o external_a unity_n of_o catholic_a religion_n and_o be_v not_o this_o plain_a enough_o how_o do_v he_o reply_v you_o shall_v hear_v it_o in_o his_o own_o word_n and_o he_o will_v so_o imbroyle_v himself_o therein_o imbroylement_n as_o he_o will_v let_v fall_n near_o half_a a_o dozen_o of_o absurdity_n ignorances_n and_o open_a falsity_n by_o the_o way_n do_v you_o stand_v attent_a then_o ●_o thus_o he_o bring_v his_o answer_n to_o my_o former_a discourse_n of_o messis_fw-la aliena_fw-la this_o be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d argument_n no_o doubt_n quoth_v he_o the_o pope_n have_v to_o do_v in_o england_n sait●_n the_o censurer_n because_o some_o catholic_n suppose_v he_o have_v but_o before_o this_o supposal_n be_v bring_v into_o a_o positive_a resolute_a conclusion_n it_o will_v ask_v a_o long_a time_n than_o such_o a_o pamphlet_n etc._n etc._n where_o you_o see_v first_o that_o he_o quite_o mistake_v i_o either_o
this_o ●axatio_fw-la ●f_n judge_v conscience_n and_o consequent_o this_o be_v no_o inseparable_a mark_n that_o agree_v to_o all_o in_o like_a manner_n also_o it_o agr●●●●_n not_o soli_fw-la that_o be_v only_o to_o the_o sin_n of_o hypocrisy_n to_o iudge●_n of_o other_o man_n conscience_n for_o pride_n may_v do_v it_o anger_n may_v do_v it_o temerity_n may_v do_v it_o revenge_n may_v do_v it_o &_o this_o without_o hypocrisy_n or_o justify_n of_o himself_o for_o if_o to_o a_o know_a us●rer_n for_o example_n you_o shall_v object_v or_o exprobrate_v the_o fin_n of_o usury_n &_o he_o answer_v you_o again_o that_o he_o suspect_v yo●●_n conscience_n of_o like_a sin_n here_o he_o judge_v of_o your_o conscience_n perhaps_o false_o and_o yet_o not_o by_o hypocrisy_n for_o he_o justifi_v not_o himself_o ergo_fw-la this_o be_v not_o proprium_fw-la quarto_fw-la modo_fw-la any_o inseparable_a mark_n or_o propriety_n of_o hypocrisy_n to_o judge_v of_o other_o man_n conscience_n last_o let_v we_o consider_v if_o you_o please_v the_o definition_n of_o hypocrisy_n which_o shall_v indeed_o have_v be_v the_o first_o i●_n consideration_n for_o try_v out_o of_o the_o true_a nature_n of_o this_o mark_n &_o propriety_n for_o so_o much_o as_o according_a to_o aristotle_n doctrine_n and_o the_o thing_n in_o itself_o be_v evident_a by_o philosophy_n pr●pri●_n passiones_fw-la flaunt_n ab_fw-la essentijs_fw-la rerum_fw-la propriety_n do_v flow_v from_o the_o essence_n of_o thing_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v best_a understand_v &_o know_v by_o re●erence_n to_o the_o say_a nature_n and_o essence_n contain_v as_o aristotle_n say_v in_o their_o definition_n the_o definition_n they_o of_o hypocrisy_n be_v medio_fw-la according_a to_o s._n isidorus_n in_o his_o etimology_n simulatio_fw-la alienae_n personae_fw-la when_o a_o man_n pretend_v to_o be_v another_o ma●_n and_o better_a than_o he_o be_v and_o according_a to_o s._n augustine_n prin●i●i●m_fw-la qui_fw-la se_fw-la vult_fw-la vide●iqu●d_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la hypocrita_fw-la est_fw-la h●_n that_o will_v seem_v to_o be_v that_o which_o he_o be_v not_o be_v a_o hypocrite_n which_o the_o greek_a word_n also_o whereof_o it_o be_v derive_v to_o wit_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v confirm_v that_o it_o signify_v dissimulation_n this_o definition_n i_o say_v which_o must_v conver●i_v cum_fw-la de●ini●o_fw-la clear_v we_o that_o this_o inseparable_a mark_n or_o propriety_n devise_v by_o m._n barley_n to_o be_v in_o all_o hypocrisy_n be_v both_o ignorant_o &_o false_o feign_v by_o himself_o as_o not_o know_v the_o true_a nature_n of_o propri●_n pas●●_n for_o that_o there_o be_v many_o way_n of_o dissimulation_n of_o ●eyg●ing_v ourselves_o to_o be_v better_a than_o we_o be_v without_o judge_v other_o man_n conscience_n that_o be_v to_o say_v there_o be_v many_o s●e●i●_n and_o kin●s_a o●_n hypocrisy_n and_o hypocrite_n that_o have_v not_o this_o mark_n &_o propriety_n as_o before_o have_v be_v show_v &_o consequent_o not_o inseparable_a that_o be_v no_o proper_a or_o inseparable_a propriety_n at_o all_o no_o more_o than_o it_o be_v to_o ●ay_n that_o it_o be_v a_o inseparable_a propriety_n to_o horse_n to_o be_v white_a for_o that_o some_o few_o be_v find_v white_a scholar_n and_o so_o we_o see_v m._n barlow_n when_o he_o come_v to_o speak_v of_o any_o matter_n of_o substance_n and_o learning_n show_v himselve_v a_o very_a feeble_a man_n scarce_o to_o understand_v the_o very_a term_n and_o first_o principle_n of_o the_o same_o but_o let_v we_o pass_v on_o now_o to_o another_o more_o grievous_a calumniation_n against_o i_o he_o be_v not_o content_a to_o make_v the_o former_a outcry_n against_o i_o for_o hypocrisy_n and_o judge_a man_n conscience_n but_o add_v also_o another_o assault_n ●saying_v that_o i_o do_v teach_v equivocation_n to_o be_v use_v in_o thi●_n oath_n which_o be_v so_o far_o from_o all_o truth_n as_o i_o do_v teach_v the_o plain_a contrary_n as_o now_o have_v appear_v by_o my_o own_o word_n before_o allege_v for_o i_o say_v there_o of_o they_o that_o take_v the_o oath_n 18._o i_o can_v in_o charity_n but_o assure_v 〈◊〉_d self_n that_o they_o be_v catholic_n take_v the_o say_a oath_n for_o so_o much_o as_o concern_v the_o pope_n authority_n in_o deal_v with_o temporal_a prince_n in_o s●me_n such_o lawful_a sense_n and_o interpretation_n as_o be_v by_o they_o express_v and_o accept_v by_o the_o magistrate_n may_v stand_v with_o the_o integrity_n and_o sincerity_n of_o true_a christian_a doctrine_n and_o faith_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o pope_n have_v ●ot_n authority_n without_o just_a cause_n nor_o direct_o but_o indirect_o only_a in_o ●●dine_n ad_fw-la spiritualia_fw-la so_o i_o write_v then_o and_o the_o clear_a addition_n that_o these_o exception_n and_o clause_n must_v be_v express_v by_o the_o swearer_n and_o accept_v by_o the_o magistrate_n do_v clear_o exclude_v equivocation_n barlow_n which_o consist_v of_o mental_a reservation_n not_o express_v nor_o understand_v or_o accept_v of_o he_o to_o who_o it_o be_v use_v and_o moreover_o within_o very_a few_o line_n after_o continue_v my_o speech_n and_o desire_v his_o majesty_n to_o accept_v of_o these_o clause_n of_o moderation_n &_o catholic_a exposition_n i_o do_v yield_v this_o reason_n that_o catholics_n do●_n not_o hold_v it_o lawful_a in_o a_o matter_n so_o ne●rely_o concern_v the_o con●ession_n of_o their_o say_v to_o equivocate_v or_o swear_v in_o any_o other_o sense_n then_o from_o his_o majesty_n be_v propose_v can_v any_o thing_n be_v speak_v more_o plain_o with_o what_o face_n then_o can_v m._n barlow_n accuse_v i_o of_o the_o quite_o contrary_a and_o so_o revile_v against_o i_o for_o the_o same_o whereof_o some_o shall_v be_v here_o set_v down_o 39_o let_v the_o reader_n behold_v say_v he_o a_o malicious_a trick_n of_o a_o notable_a equivoca●●u●_n that_o can_v be_v content_v to_o be_v himself_o alone_o the_o devil_n sch●ller_n that_o ancient_a equi●ocatour●_n but_o must_v be_v 〈◊〉_d his_o devility_n reader_n or_o schoolman_n to_o teach_v other_o ●o_o distinguish_v themselves_o t●_n hell_n fire_n show_v himself_o to_o be_v verè_fw-la spiritus_fw-la menda●_n i●_n over_o prop●●tarum_n frame_v two_o distinction_n like_o the_o two_o 〈◊〉_d of_o sedecias_n the_o false_a prophet_n such_o another_o as_o himself_o fu●●_n of_o th●_n spirit_n &_o put_v they_o into_o their_o mo●thes_n 22_o the_o first_o that_o the_o pope_n 〈◊〉_d not_o authority_n without_o just_a cause_n to_o procee_v against_o prince_n the_o sec●●●_n that_o the_o pope_n have_v not_o this_o authority_n direct_o but_o indirect_o &_o in_o ordine_fw-la ad_fw-la spiritualia_fw-la etc._n etc._n so_o he_o whereby_o we_o see_v how_o much_o the_o man_n delight_v himself_o in_o compare_v these_o two_o distinction_n or_o explication_n of_o i_o to_o the_o two_o iron-horne_n of_o sedecias_n though_o the_o scripture_n have_v not_o the_o particular_a number_n of_o two_o but_o m._n barlow_n add_v that_o of_o ●is_n own_o to_o make_v the●_n meet_v the_o more_o fit_o with_o the_o number_n of_o my_o two_o distinction_n for_o beside_o the_o parity_n of_o number_n which_o yet_o be_v false_a there_o be_v no_o other_o parity_n or_o likeness_n at_o all_o for_o what_o have_v horn_n to_o do_v with_o distinction_n and_o yet_o after_o a_o large_a and_o lewd_a blast_n of_o rail_v against_o i_o for_o the_o same_o he_o conclude_v thus_o and_o now_o let_v the_o christian_a reader_n that_o make_v a_o conscience_n either_o of_o god_n or_o common_a honesty_n consider_v whether_o this_o be_v not_o the_o profunda_fw-la sathanae_fw-la in_o the_o revelatió_n even_o the_o very_a mist_n and_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n but_o what_o sir_n to_o distinguish_v or_o use_v distinction_n in_o a_o matter_n that_o may_v have_v diverse_a sense_n or_o intendment_n be_v this_o the_o profundity_n of_o satan_n or_o be_v not_o this_o rather_o profound_a ignorance_n and_o absurdity_n in_o you_o to_o say_v so_o ignorance_n do_v not_o you_o know_v that_o to_o distinguish_v belong_v to_o the_o wise_a and_o learned_a according_a to_o aristotle_n and_o not_o to_o distinguish_v est_fw-fr imper●●●_n mul●itudinis_fw-la appertain_v say_v he_o to_o the_o unlearned_a vulgar_a sort_n do_v not_o reason_n and_o expe●ience_n teach_v we_o that_o to_o distinguish_v matter_n that_o be_v obscure_a &_o perplex_a into_o their_o clear_a sense_n or_o that_o be_v confuse_v into_o their_o several_a part_n &_o member_n or_o that_o may_v have_v many_o sense_n into_o their_o different_a signification_n be_v a_o high_a work_n of_o wit_n that_o give_v life_n to_o our_o understanding_n to_o conceive_v the_o truth_n and_o light_n to_o our_o will_n to_o make_v choice_n of_o the_o same_o how_o many_o foul_a heresy_n in_o the_o church_n o●_n chris●_n since_o her_o beginning_n have_v be_v beat_v down_o principal_o by_o pious_a and_o prudent_a distinguish_n which_o otherwise_o will_v never_o perhaps_o have_v be_v overcome_v as_o namely_o the_o arian_n when_o they_o allege_v
you_o keep_v yourself_o to_o your_o text_n for_o i_o remember_v not_o to_o have_v mention_v that_o word_n in_o my_o speech_n before_o rehearse_v whereunto_o you_o pretend_v to_o answer_v discourse_n true_a it_o be_v that_o of_o the_o passion_n of_o anger_n and_o revenge_n for_o suppose_a injury_n or_o oppression_n receive_v i_o have_v make_v mention_n but_o you_o have_v turn_v all_o your_o sh●w_n of_o answer_n against_o desperation_n tell_v we_o much_o of_o the_o furious_a fancy_n of_o the_o donatist_n in_o africa_n that_o be_v desperate_o enrage_v you_o ask_v also_o whether_o the_o catholic_n be_v no_o better_o instruct_v in_o devinity_n by_o their_o priest_n you_o tell_v we_o that_o s._n peter_n devinity_n be_v better_a who●_n he●●horteth_v servant_n to_o be_v buxom_a and_o obedient_a in_o all_o fe●●●_n to_o their_o master_n you_o say_v further_o that_o true_a catholic_a devinity_n teach_v man_n to_o endure_v law_n with_o all_o ●●●dy_a ●●bedience_n and_o if_o through_o weakness_n they_o can_v or_o by_o repugnancy_n of_o conscience_n they_o dare_v not_o be_v persuade_v that_o they_o may_v lawful_o swear_v unto_o they_o then_o to_o endure_v the_o penalty_n with_o a_o humble_a patience_n allege_v for_o the_o same_o the_o word_n of_o s._n peter_n that_o this_o be_v thanksworthy_a if_o a_o man_n f●●_n conscience_n sake_n towards_o god_n end●●e_a grief_n wrongful_o because_o o●r_v ●●●ster_n do_v so_o etc._n etc._n which_o we_o take_v for_o very_o good_a doctrine_n indeed_o 2._o and_o so_o do_v teach_v and_o preach_v the_o same_o diligent_o exhort_v all_o good_a catholic_n to_o follow_v that_o rule_n but_o yet_o on_o the_o other_o side_n we_o can_v forget_v also_o the_o say_n of_o the_o apostle_n non_fw-la in_o omni●us_fw-la est_fw-la scientia_fw-la 8._o all_o man_n have_v not_o true_a knowledge_n 〈◊〉_d they_o ought_v to_o do_v and_o much_o less_o patience_n in_o what_o they_o ought_v to_o suffer_v and_o therefore_o be_v the_o gi●t_v of_o wisdom_n providence_n and_o discretion_n grant_v unto_o governor_n to_o moderate_a matter_n according_a to_o man_n infirmity_n in_o some_o ca●●●_n &_o this_o be_v all_o that_o be_v say_v or_o insinuate_v in_o this_o passage_n though_o m._n barlow_n out_o of_o his_o great_a prudence_n in_o de●i●●ty_n &_o policy_n note_v that_o the_o example_n of_o count_n julian_n of_o spai●e_n that_o overthrow_v his_o country_n upon_o the_o passion_n of_o revenge_n aught_o to_o be_v a_o caveat_n to_o the_o state_n of_o england_n that_o i_o do_v threaten_v but_o it_o be_v a_o childish_a quarrel_n pick_v for_o i_o do_v but_o call_v 〈◊〉_d memory_n the_o history_n in_o confirmation_n of_o that_o which_o in_o my_o speech_n be_v set_v down_o but_o there_o follow_v a_o second_o reason_n concern_v they_o that_o press_v the_o oath_n upon_o other_o to_o wit_n the_o consideration_n of_o active_a scandal_n which_o i_o set_v down_o before_o in_o these_o word_n but_o beside_o all_o this_o say_v i_o be_v the_o grievous_a sin_n that_o they_o commit_v 22._o who_o force_n or_o press_v other_o man_n to_o swear_v against_o their_o conscience_n than_o which_o nothing_o can_v be_v imagine_v more_o heinous_a for_o it_o be_v to_o thrust_v man_n headlong_a especial_o such_o as_o be_v fearful_a into_o the_o very_a precipitation_n &_o downfall_n of_o hell_n itself_o for_o it_o be_v the_o high_a degree_n of_o scandal_n active_a so_o much_o condemn_v and_o detest_a in_o the_o scripture_n and_o so_o dreadful_o threaten_v by_o our_o saviour_n to_o be_v severe_o punish_v in_o the_o life_n to_o come_v for_o that_o scandalize_a proper_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o lay_v a_o stumble_a block_n for_o other_o man_n to_o fall_v and_o break_v their_o neck_n and_o such_o a_o one_o be_v this_o formal_a oath_n which_o contain_v diverse_a thing_n lawful_a for_o a_o catholic_n to_o swear_v &_o other_o thing_n unlawful_a and_o he_o be_v force_v by_o terror_n to_o pass_v over_o and_o swallow_v down_o one_o with_o another_o without_o distinction_n with_o manifest_a repugnance_n of_o his_o conscience_n which_o repugnance_n to_o he_o be_v always_o a_o sin_n and_o damnable_a in_o such_o a_o public_a and_o weighty_a action_n though_o the_o matter_n be_v lawful_a in_o itself_o and_o consequent_o also_o unto_o they_o that_o force_v he_o to_o the_o same_o either_o know_v or_o suspect_v his_o say_a repugnance_n of_o conscience_n for_o he_o that_o shall_v force_v a_o jew_n or_o a_o turk_n to_o swear_v that_o there_o be_v a_o bless_a trinity_n either_o know_v or_o suspect_v that_o they_o will_v do_v it_o against_o their_o conscience_n shall_v sin_v grievous_o by_o force_v they_o to_o commit_v that_o sin_n this_o be_v catholic_n doctrine_n which_o i_o also_o think_v the_o learned_a protestant_n themselves_o will_v not_o deny_v unto_o this_o speech_n of_o i_o m._n barlow_n answer_v first_o grant_v that_o a_o man_n shall_v rather_o endure_v any_o loss_n of_o life_n or_o good_n then_o swear_v against_o his_o conscience_n which_o doctrine_n i_o be_o glad_a that_o in_o this_o present_a case_n the_o force_n of_o truth_n have_v draw_v from_o he_o but_o he_o go_v further_o treat_v of_o this_o point_n of_o scandal_n after_o such_o a_o fashion_n out_o of_o our_o schoole-doctour_n as_o he_o mar_v all_o again_o man_n and_o true_o he_o have_v so_o evil_a luck_n in_o deal_v with_o they_o not_o understand_v as_o it_o seem_v what_o they_o mean_v as_o i_o marvel_v that_o he_o will_v ever_o name_v they_o for_o though_o in_o this_o place_n he_o alleadg_n only_o s._n thomas_n by_o the_o name_n of_o aquinas_n in_o the_o margin_n without_o quote_v where_o in_o what_o part_n or_o place_n of_o his_o work_n it_o be_v to_o be_v find_v yet_o do_v he_o pervert_v his_o meaning_n egregious_o go_v forward_o and_o backward_o and_o take_v one_o thing_n for_o another_o that_o it_o be_v both_o pitiful_a &_o ridiculous_a to_o consider_v but_o i_o shall_v cyte_v his_o own_o word_n as_o they_o lie_v and_o thereby_o shall_v we_o see_v how_o able_a a_o schoolman_n he_o be_v but_o in_o this_o point_n of_o scandal_n say_v he_o will_v this_o great_a divine_a vouchsafe_v to_o learn_v a_o lesson_n from_o their_o own_o schoolman_n 57_o be_v the_o exact_v of_o this_o oath_n a_o scandal_n active_a in_o our_o magistrate_n then_o be_v it_o passive_a in_o their_o catholic_n for_o it_o be_v no_o scandal_n give_v if_o be_v 〈…〉_z i●_n their_o conscience_n be_v offend_v a●_n it_o they_o be_v say_v aquin●●_n 〈◊〉_d simple_o ignorant_a or_o wicked_o malicious_a and_o the_o last_o ●●●●er_n 〈…〉_z well_o instruct_v or_o true_o sanctify_v can_v take_v no_o offence_n though_o 〈◊〉_d ●uer_o so_o open_o which_o he_o confirm_v by_o that_o place_n of_o david_n g●●●●_n be_v th●●●_n peace_n that_o love_v thy_o law_n &_o non_fw-la est_fw-la illi_fw-la scandalum_fw-la he_o which_o 〈◊〉_d love_v god_n neither_o do_v scandalize_v by_o sin_v nor_o be_v scandalize_v by_o ●●●ning_n quicquid_fw-la ei_fw-la fiat_fw-la in_o which_o discourse_n of_o m._n barlow_n be_v to_o be_v note_v first_o that_o after_o his_o scorn_n utter_v against_o i_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o as_o a_o great_a school_n divine_a to_o determine_v this_o consequence_n be_v the_o exact_v of_o the_o oath_n scandal_n active_a in_o our_o magistrate_n the●_n i●_n it_o passive_a in_o their_o catholic_n scandal_n which_o i_o grant_v to_o be_v true_a in_o such_o catholic_n as_o by_o force_n of_o that_o exaction_n have_v be_v induce_v to_o swear_v against_o their_o conscience_n and_o so_o finned_a it_o be_v not_o true_a in_o they_o that_o refuse_v the_o same_o and_o they_o be_v those_o who_o the_o prophet_n commend_v in_o the_o place_n here_o mention_v great_a be_v their_o peace_n who_o love_n thy_o law_n and_o they_o be_v not_o scandalise_v nor_o do_v fall_n into_o sin_n by_o the_o sin_n or_o inducement_n of_o other_o so_o as_o in_o this_o sense_n it_o be_v true_a that_o such_o catholic_n as_o take_v the_o oath_n with_o a_o repugnant_a conscience_n suffer_v scandalum_fw-la p●ssiwm_fw-la but_o not_o these_o that_o refuse_v but_o m._n barlowes_n reason_n for_o that_o there_o be_v no_o scandal_n give_v if_o it_o be_v not_o take_v be_v most_o manifest_o false_a and_o the_o more_o intolerable_o foolish_a for_o that_o he_o set_v it_o down_o as_o the_o reason_n of_o s._n thomas_n aquinas_n whereas_o the_o say_v ●_z do_v express_o contradict_v the_o same_o in_o sundry_a place_n say_v in_o one_o 4._o quandoque_fw-la est_fw-la scandalum_fw-la actiu●m_fw-la sine_fw-la passive_a pui●●●●●●quis_fw-la inducit_fw-la alium_fw-la ad_fw-la peccand●m_fw-la ille_fw-la n●n_fw-la consentit_fw-la sometime_o ●●ere_o may_v be_v a_o scandal_n active_a without_o a_o passive_a passive_a to_o wit_n when_o any_o man_n do_v induce_v by_o word_n or_o fact_n another_o man_n to_o sin_n and_o he_o do_v not_o consent_v unto_o he_o and_o again_o in_o another_o place_n potest_fw-la tamen_fw-la esse_fw-la scandalum_fw-la
malice_n or_o infirmity_n by_o misconstr_v or_o by_o misunderstanding_n as_o you_o have_v hear_v but_o in_o our_o case_n there_o be_v the_o urge_v of_o the_o oath_n both_o by_o speech_n &_o penalty_n which_o oath_n be_v contrary_a to_o th●●r_v conscience_n as_o they_o be_v catholic_n and_o yet_o swear_v the_o same_o they_o fall_v and_o run_v into_o the_o ruin_n of_o their_o soul_n by_o that_o mean_n and_o this_o neither_o out_o of_o malice_n nor_o ignorance_n but_o rather_o out_o of_o a_o certain_a weakness_n culpable_a that_o be_v sinful_a both_o to_o themselves_o and_o to_o the_o urger_n thereof_o so_o as_o what_o s._n thomas_n speak_v of_o one_o sort_n of_o man_n m._n barl●●_n sly_o apply_v it_o to_o the_o other_o neither_o do_v s._n thom●●_n use_v these_o bitter_a speech_n of_o simple_o ignorant_a or_o wicked_o malicious_a as_o before_o i_o have_v note_v abuse_v much_o less_o the_o three_o clause_n and_o the_o la●●_n rather_o but_o least_o of_o all_o do_v he_o add_v that_o reason_n which_o here_o be_v touch_v to_o wit_n for_o that_o he_o who_o be_v instruct_v or_o true_o sanctify_v can_v take_v no_o offence_n though_o give_v never_o so_o open_o for_o s._n thomas_n do_v not_o use_v the_o word_n instruct_v or_o sanctify_v but_o only_o make_v the_o title_n of_o his_o five_o article_n thus_o utrum_fw-la scand●●●●_n passiwm_fw-la possit_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o perfectos_fw-la cadere_fw-la whether_o a_o scandal_n passive_a may_v fall_v even_o upon_o such_o man_n as_o be_v perfect_a which_o ●e_n prove_v that_o it_o can_v for_o that_o a_o passive_a scandal_n import_v a_o offence_n take_v by_o other_o man_n word_n or_o work_n whereby_o the_o scandalized_a upon_o perturbation_n depart_v from_o god_n and_o fall_v into_o sin_n perfect_a man_n be_v so_o firm_o unite_v unto_o god_n &_o to_o his_o holy_a will_n in_o all_o thing_n as_o no_o evil_a word_n or_o work_n of_o man_n can_v wrest_v they_o aside_o from_o the_o same_o according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o the_o psalm_n before_o recite_v to_o wit_n such_o as_o do_v 〈◊〉_d thy_o law_n have_v much_o peace_n and_o suffer_v no_o scandal_n and_o consequent_o perfect_a man_n can_v take_v passive_a scandal_n and_o much_o less_o commit_v active_a without_o depart_v from_o their_o perfection_n and_o such_o man_n may_v be_v account_v in_o our_o case_n those_o catholic_n that_o will_v not_o be_v scandalize_v nor_o fall_v into_o sin_n and_o ruin_n of_o their_o soul_n by_o the_o unlawful_a oath_n offer_v unto_o they_o but_o choose_v rather_o to_o incur_v the_o penalty_n of_o the_o law_n the_o other_o as_o more_o imperfect_a take_v the_o scandal_n that_o be_v give_v they_o and_o either_o must_v be_v presume_v to_o have_v swear_v against_o their_o conscience_n if_o they_o be_v catholic_n or_o to_o have_v follow_v a_o erroneous_a conscience_n in_o this_o matter_n if_o they_o take_v the_o oath_n as_o it_o lie_v as_o may_v appear_v by_o the_o declaration_n of_o the_o sea_n apostolic_a well_o then_o to_o conclude_v let_v we_o repeat_v brief_o m._n barl._n contexture_n and_o see_v his_o defect_n be_v the_o exact_v of_o the_o oath_n say_v he_o a_o scandal_n active_a in_o our_o magistrate_n then_o be_v it_o passive_a in_o their_o catholic_n which_o inference_n i_o have_v allow_v in_o some_o catholic_n of_o the_o weak_a sort_n that_o take_v the_o oath_n but_o not_o in_o all_o for_o it_o be_v no_o scandal_n give_v say_v he_o if_o it_o be_v not_o take_v this_o i_o have_v show_v to_o be_v very_o false_a it_o follow_v if_o their_o conscience_n be_v offend_v at_o it_o they_o be_v say_v aquinas_n either_o simple_o ignorant_a or_o wicked_o malicious_a this_o i_o have_v show_v for_o the_o late_a part_n not_o to_o be_v in_o aquinas_n and_o for_o the_o former_a evil_a apply_v and_o false_o allege_v evil_o apply_v for_o those_o word_n which_o in_o aquinas_n his_o sense_n appertain_v to_o weak_a catholic_n that_o take_v the_o oath_n this_o man_n ascribe_v to_o the_o more_o constant_a that_o refuse_v the_o same_o misalleage_v also_o it_o be_v scandal_n for_o that_o aquinas_n say_v not_o 〈◊〉_d their_o conscience_n be_v offend_v at_o it_o for_o that_o it_o be_v another_o thing_n for_o conscience_n to_o be_v offend_v at_o a_o thing_n and_o mislike_v the_o same_o then_o to_o be_v scandalize_v &_o fall_v thereby_o into_o sin_n for_o the_o former_a may_v be_v in_o perfect_a man_n yea_o the_o more_o perfect_a they_o be_v the_o more_o be_v they_o offend_v and_o grieve_v with_o evil_a thing_n that_o may_v scandalize_v but_o the_o late_a can_v as_o now_o out_o of_o s._n thomas_n have_v be_v declare_v and_o again_o a_o man_n may_v be_v scandalize_v and_o fall_v into_o sin_n by_o another_o man_n word_n or_o act_n that_o offend_v he_o not_o but_o rather_o please_v he_o as_o when_o a_o young_a man_n by_o some_o lascivious_a speech_n or_o fact_n of_o his_o companion_n shall_v fall_v into_o fornication_n himself_o he_o be_v scandalize_v thereby_o but_o not_o offend_v so_o as_o m._n barlow_n seem_v to_o speak_v exact_o in_o nothing_o for_o neither_o do_v he_o translate_v well_o the_o word_n perfect_a use_v by_o s._n thomas_n o●_n perfect_a man_n which_o be_v not_o subject_a to_o scandal_n by_o the_o word_n well_o instruct_v and_o true_o sanctify_v for_o that_o a_o man_n may_v be_v well_o instruct_v and_o yet_o not_o perfect_a in_o master_a his_o passion_n according_a to_o the_o say_n of_o the_o poet_n video_fw-la meliorae_fw-la proboque_fw-la deteriora_fw-la sequor_fw-la instruction_n may_v teach_v he_o what_o he_o shall_v do_v &_o yet_o not_o always_o make_v he_o perfect_a in_o do_v how_o many_o well_o instruct_v protestant_n yea_o minister_n have_v you_o in_o england_n who_o if_o they_o shall_v receive_v a_o scandal_n active_a from_o one_o of_o their_o ●ellowes_n by_o a_o box_n on_o the_o care_n will_v be_v so_o scandalize_v as_o they_o wo●ld_v return_v he_o a_o passive_a for_o requital_n and_o yet_o be_v not_o this_o for_o lack_v of_o instruction_n but_o of_o patience_n rather_o which_o perfect_a man_n h●●●_n and_o you_o m._n barlow_n have_v not_o patience_n when_o you_o give_v the_o poor_a fellow_n that_o come_v to_o be_v confirm_v so_o heavy_a a_o blow_n under_o the_o care_n in_o lincoln_n church_n with_o which_o as_o i_o have_v be_v credible_o inform_v you_o fell_v he_o to_o the_o ground_n for_o no_o other_o matter_n then_o because_o he_o smile_v upon_o you_o a_o rare_a example_n of_o bishoply_n patience_n such_o as_o i_o think_v be_v never_o see_v in_o that_o church_n before_o neither_o be_v every_o man_n true_o sanctify_v to_o be_v repute_v for_o perfect_a on_o who_o scandal_n may_v not_o fall_v for_o that_o a_o jew_n or_o a_o gentile_a new_o baptize_v be_v true_o sanctify_v and_o yet_o if_o you_o shall_v exact_v work_n of_o perfection_n at_o their_o hand_n as_o patience_n in_o adversity_n mortification_n of_o their_o passion_n &_o appetite_n contempt_n of_o the_o world_n stability_n and_o immobility_n in_o god_n love_n and_o service_n perhaps_o you_o shall_v not_o find_v the_o same_o wherefore_o by_o perfect_a man_n that_o can_v be_v scandalize_v be_v signify_v a_o far_o different_a thing_n in_o s._n thomas_n then_o well_o instruct_v or_o true_o sanctify_v and_o it_o be_v very_o fond_a that_o m._n barlow_n yet_o add_v again_o that_o these_o well_o instruct_v and_o true_o sanctify_a man_n can_v take_v no_o offence_n though_o give_v never_o so_o open_o for_o that_o no_o so●t_n of_o man_n be_v more_o offend_v grieve_a and_o vex_v with_o the_o open_a offence_n of_o almighty_a god_n t●●n_o these_o that_o be_v well_o instruct_v and_o true_o sanctify_v for_o that_o their_o zeal_n be_v great_a than_o of_o any_o other_o as_o we_o see_v in_o our_o saviour_n who_o behold_v the_o offence_n give_v to_o his_o father_n by_o the_o abuse_n of_o his_o house_n be_v so_o offend_v thereat_o as_o that_o he_o make_v a_o whip_n to_o drive_v they_o out_o unto_o to_o which_o the_o apostle_n apply_v those_o word_n of_o the_o prophet_n the_o zeal_n of_o thy_o house_n have_v eat_v &_o consume_v i_o to_o which_o effect_n also_o k._n david_n say_v in_o great_a fervour_n tabescere_fw-la i_o se●it_fw-la zelus_fw-la me●_n quia_fw-la obliti_fw-la sunt_fw-la verba_fw-la tua_fw-la inimici_fw-la mei_fw-la my_o zeal_n have_v make_v i_o wither_v away_o and_o consume_v for_o that_o my_o enemy_n be_v forgetful_a of_o thy_o word_n and_o many_o such_o other_o testimony_n may_v be_v allege_v to_o show_v that_o m._n barlow_n understand_v not_o well_o what_o he_o write_v divinity_n nor_o conceyve_v right_o the_o author_n mean_v who_o he_o allege_v especial_o if_o he_o be_v a_o schooledoctour_n as_o s._n thomas_n here_o allege_v be_v wherein_o as_o before_o have_v be_v note_v he_o seem_v not_o to_o understand_v the_o very_a ordinary_a term_n of_o school_n divinity_n and_o much_o
the_o consequence_n of_o this_o argument_n whereunto_o i_o answer_v that_o i_o allege_v diverse_a reason_n why_o our_o catholic_n priest_n die_v for_o religion_n &_o not_o for_o treason_n first_o for_o that_o no_o such_o treason_n can_v be_v prove_v against_o they_o in_o the_o sense_n and_o judgement_n of_o any_o indifferent_a man_n that_o be_v present_a at_o their_o arraignment_n to_o wit_n of_o the_o one_o hundred_o and_o thirty_o that_o before_o i_o mention_v second_o for_o that_o the_o public_a register_n themselves_o and_o history_n as_o john_n st●w_v and_o other_o in_o their_o chronicle_n do●_n object_v no_o other_o treason_n to_o the_o most_o of_o they_o but_o only_o be_v priest_n &_o their_o take_n of_o holy_a order_n beyond_o the_o sea_n which_o in_o no_o sense_n can_v be_v treason_n no_o more_o than_o the_o confess_v of_o the_o bless_a trinity_n can_v be_v make_v treason_n by_o the_o trinitarian_n in_o transiluania_n three_o for_o that_o they_o themselves_o die_v do_v protest_v upon_o their_o conscience_n as_o they_o shall_v be_v save_v they_o never_o mean_v treason_n in_o thought_n word_n or_o deed_n against_o queen_n elizabeth_n and_o then_o fourthly_a for_o confirmation_n of_o this_o i_o allege_v this_o other_o reason_n so_o much_o scorn_v by_o m._n barlow_n they_o have_v life_n offer_v they_o if_o they_o will_v renounce_v the_o pope_n &_o conform_v themselves_o to_o the_o state_n they_o refuse_v the_o same_o which_o he_o say_v be_v a_o false_a and_o faulty_a inference_n and_o i_o say_v it_o be_v very_o good_a and_o true_a and_o that_o if_o m._n barlow_n have_v any_o moderate_a skill_n of_o the_o case_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n ●yther_o of_o philosophy_n or_o divinity_n he_o will_v be_v ashamed_a to_o say_v as_o he_o do_v in_o philosophy_n it_o be_v a_o common_a axiom_n that_o omnis_fw-la actus_fw-la specificatur_fw-la ab_fw-la obiecto_fw-la &_o fi●e_fw-la every_o action_n be_v specify_v that_o be_v to_o say_v take_v his_o nature_n and_o essence_n from_o his_o object_n and_o end_n as_o if_o a_o man_n shall_v kill_v one_o to_o gain_v his_o good_n this_o act_n have_v both_o the_o nature_n of_o manslaughter_n &_o theft_n the_o first_o from_o the_o object_n the_o second_o from_o the_o end_n or_o intention_n of_o the_o doer_n which_o philosophical_a principle_n be_v apply_v to_o our_o case_n do_v evident_o prove_v that_o the_o choice_n of_o death_n in_o he_o that_o have_v life_n offer_v upon_o condition_n he_o will_v do_v some_o act_n against_o his_o faith_n as_o go_v to_o the_o protestant_n church_n be_v esteem_v by_o catholic_n though_o otherwise_o he_o be_v n●uer_o so_o great_a a_o delinquent_n before_o be_v a_o act_n of_o martyrdom_n for_o that_o it_o have_v both_o the_o object_n and_o the_o end_n thereof_o the_o object_n to_o wit_n death_n the_o end_n which_o be_v the_o profession_n of_o his_o faith_n and_o so_o if_o we_o pass_v to_o consider_v the_o same_o by_o theology●_n which_o more_o proper_o treat_v of_o this_o virtue_n of_o martyrdom_n the_o controversy_n will_v be_v make_v much_o more_o clear_a for_o that_o the_o word_n martyrdom_n be_v a_o greek_a word●_n and_o signify_v a_o testimony_n or_o bear_v of_o witness_n as_o the_o word_n martyr_n signify_v he_o that_o yield_v testimony_n or_o ber_v witness_n every_o testmony_n or_o bear_v of_o witness_n be_v not_o mean_v by_o the_o word_n martyrdom_n but_o only_o such_o a_o testimony_n as_o be_v give_v by_o die_v for_o god_n in_o the_o defence_n of_o some_o truth_n belong_v to_o our_o faith_n martyr_n either_o express_o impugn_a or_o employ_v in_o the_o impugnation_n of_o some_o other_o virtue_n that_o contain_v the_o say_a truth_n of_o our_o faith_n therein_o which_o last_o clause_n be_v add_v for_o that_o a_o man_n may_v be_v a_o true_a martyr_n though_o he_o die_v not_o for_o any_o express_a article_n of_o faith_n or_o part_n thereof_o but_o it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o he_o die_v for_o the_o defence_n of_o any_o one_o virtue_n as_o chastity_n obedience_n justice_n and_o the_o like_a according_a to_o the_o say_n of_o our_o saviour_n 5._o beati_fw-la qui_fw-la persecutionem_fw-la patiuntur_fw-la propter_fw-la iustitiam_fw-la blessed_n be_v they_o that_o suffer_v persecution_n for_o righteousness_n and_o s._n john_n baptist_n be_v acknowledge_v by_o all_o divine_n for_o a_o true_a martyr_n although_o he_o die_v for_o no_o article_n of_o faith_n but_o for_o reprehend_v the_o incestuous_a marriage_n of_o king_n herod_n with_o more_o liberty_n of_o speech_n and_o spirit_n than_o any_o such_o prince-flatterer_n &_o base_a mind_n as_o m._n barlow_n will_v ever_o have_v do_v in_o the_o like_a case_n if_o we_o may_v guess_v at_o his_o virtue_n by_o his_o writing_n but_o to_o apply_v the_o former_a ground_n and_o uncontrollable_a principle_n to_o our_o present_a purpose_n in_o hand_n whether_o these_o priest_n die_v for_o refu●ing_v the_o oath_n of_o the_o feminine_a supremacy_n or_o for_o that_o they_o be_v make_v priest_n beyond_o the_o sea_n or_o ●or_a that_o they_o refuse_v to_o come_v to_o your_o heretical_a service_n certain_a it_o be_v martyr_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o catholic_a divinity_n that_o they_o die_v for_o de●ence_n of_o their_o faith_n or_o maintenance_n of_o virtue_n which_o be_v sufficient_a to_o justify_v their_o martyrdom_n have_v so_o great_a warrant_n and_o store_n of_o all_o manner_n of_o witness_n ●or_a the_o truth_n and_o doctrine_n they_o suffer_v for_o as_o may_v well_o in_o conscience_n assure_v they_o of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o their_o cause_n and_o that_o they_o die_v for_o that_o religion_n in_o which_o all_o the_o prince_n and_o people_n of_o christendom_n for_o so_o many_o year_n &_o age_n both_o live_v and_o die_v and_o whereas_o m._n barlow_n impugn_v this_o by_o two_o case_n or_o example_n they_o be_v but_o so_o many_o argument_n of_o his_o own_o ignorance_n let_v we_o speak_v a_o word_n or_o two_o of_o they_o both_o the_o first_o be_v of_o absolom_n put_v the_o case_n that_o he_o be_v a_o idolater_n as_o well_o as_o a_o traitor_n and_o that_o king_n david_n after_o sentence_n pass_v against_o he_o ●or_a his_o treason_n will_v acquit_v he_o from_o death_n conditional_o case_n that_o he_o shall_v renounce_v his_o idolatry_n and_o that_o upon_o refusal_n he_o shall_v be_v execute_v shall_v we_o say_v say_v m._n barlow_n that_o he_o die_v ●or_a religion_n or_o for_o treason_n we_o will_v say_v good_a m._n barlow_n that_o he_o die_v rather_o for_o false_a religion_n that_o be_v to_o say_v idolatry_n then_o for_o treason_n and_o be_v the_o devil_n martyr_n and_o none_o i_o think_v can_v deny_v the_o same_o unless_o he_o be_v as_o ignorant_a as_o yourself_o as_o shall_v further_o appear_v by_o the_o answer_n to_o the_o next_o example_n which_o in_o effect_n be_v all_o one_o with_o this_o to_o wit_n that_o a_o young_a son_n shall_v aspire_v his_o father_n death_n with_o hope_n to_o have_v his_o riches_n and_o that_o be_v condemn_v his_o father_n shall_v offer_v to_o save_v he_o if_o he_o will_v go_v to_o church_n and_o leave_v his_o evil_a life_n of_o follow_a quean_n etc._n etc._n shall_v ●e_n say_v quoth_v m._n barlow_n that_o he_o be_v execute_v for_o his_o whoredom_n or_o for_o this_o parricide_n against_o his_o father_n but_o here_o i_o will_v ask_v m._n barlow_n why_o he_o leave_v out_o go_v to_o church_n which_o be_v the_o first_o part_n of_o the_o condition_n and_o name_v only_a whoredom_n no_o doubt_v but_o the_o honest_a man_n will_v have_v the_o stay_n from_o the_o church_n in_o catholic_n and_o whoredom_n seem_v to_o be_v companion_n but_o now_o i_o answer_v to_o his_o question_n that_o if_o he_o mean_v by_o refuse_v to_o go_v to_o church_n such_o as_o be_v practise_v by_o catholic_n for_o conscience_n sake_n and_o not_o to_o deny_v thereby_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o catholic_a faith_n which_o forbid_v to_o go_v to_o heretical_a church_n then_o die_v he_o for_o the_o truth_n of_o his_o faith_n and_o consequent_o he_o be_v a_o martyr_n but_o if_o he_o choose_v to_o die_v for_o love_n of_o wicked_a life_n and_o whoredom_n it_o be_v no_o cause_n of_o martyrdom_n and_o consequent_o he_o be_v the_o devil_n martyr_n as_o we_o say_v before_o of_o the_o idolater_n but_o as_o for_o parricide_n clear_v it_o be_v that_o he_o can_v be_v say_v to_o have_v die_v for_o it_o proper_o as_o the_o immediate_a cause_n of_o his_o death_n for_o that_o it_o be_v remit_v un●o_o he_o and_o their_o pass_a another_o election_n on_o his_o mind_n to_o wit_n that_o he_o will_v leave_v his_o old_a life_n so_o as_o ●or_a this_o he_o die_v propriè_fw-la &_o proximè_fw-la proper_o and_o immediate_o and_o for_o the_o parricide_n only_a remotè_fw-fr &_o occasi●naliter_fw-la a_o far_o of_o and_o as_o from_o that_o which_o give_v the_o first_o occasion_n of_o his_o death_n what_o
during_o the_o time_n of_o the_o three_o king_n henries_n 4._o 5._o and_o 6._o and_o afterward_o when_o those_o that_o be_v call_v l●llards_n and_o wickelissians_n who_o as_o m._n fox_n say_v be_v indeed_o good_a protestant_n be_v press_v some_o what_o about_o their_o religion_n do_v continual_o beat_v upon_o this_o argument_n of_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n and_o when_o they_o obtain_v it_o not_o they_o set_v u●_n public_a schedle_n upon_o the_o church_n door_n of_o london_n an●_n make_v ●hose_v famous_a conspiracy_n of_o kill_a k._n henry_n the_o 5_o d_o and_o all_o his_o family_n ●un●i_fw-la which_o be_v recount_v by_o watsingham_n stow_z fox_n and_o other_o english_a historiographer_n in_o this_o our_o age_n also_o the_o first_o opposition_n of_o protestant_a prince_n in_o germany_n against_o their_o emperor_n charles_n the_o 5._o both_o at_o smalcald_n austburgh_n and_o other_o meeting_n as_o afterward_o also_o the_o fierce_a and_o perilous_a war_n by_o the_o duke_n of_o saxony_n marquis_n of_o brandeburge_n and_o other_o protestant_a prince_n and_o their_o people_n against_o the_o same_o emperor_n begin_v in_o the_o very_a same_o year_n that_o our_o k._n henry_n die_v 1●46_n be_v they_o not_o all_o for_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n so_o pretend_a so_o print_v so_o publish_v so_o diwlge_v to_o the_o world_n the_o first_o supplication_n memorial_n and_o declaration_n in_o like_a manner_n which_o the_o protestant_n of_o france_n set_v forth_o in_o print●_n as_o also_o they_o of_o holland_n protestant_n &_o zealand_n in_o time_n of_o the_o government_n as_o well_o of_o the_o duchess_n of_o parma_n duke_n of_o alva_n commenda●or_a major_n and_o other_o governor_n do_v they_o not_o all_o express_o profess_v that_o their_o principal_a grief_n be_v about_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n restrain_v and_o do_v not_o they_o cyte_v many_o place_n of_o scripture_n to_o prove_v the_o equity_n &_o necessity_n thereof_o and_o do_v not_o all_o protestant_n the_o like_a at_o this_o day_n in_o all_o place_n where_o they_o be_v both_o in_o polonia_n austria_n bohemia_n styria_n and_o else_o where_o 113._o and_o how_o then_o be_v jordanis_fw-la conversus_fw-la retr●rs●m_fw-la with_o this_o minister_n how_o be_v his_o voice_n contrary_a to_o the_o voice_n &_o sense_n of_o all_o the_o rest_n how_o &_o with_o what_o reason_n may_v he_o call_v it_o the_o height_n of_o pride_n in_o english_a catholic_n to_o have_v but_o hope_v thereof_o which_o be_v so_o ordinary_a a_o doctrine_n &_o practice_n of_o all_o his_o brethren_n in_o foreign_a nation_n to_o wit_n for_o we_o to_o expect_v liberty_n of_o conscience_n at_o the_o first_o entrance_n of_o our_o new_a king_n of_o so_o noble_a and_o royal_a a_o mind_n before_o that_o time_n as_o he_o be_v never_o know_v to_o be_v give_v to_o cruelty_n or_o persecution_n in_o his_o former_a reign_n the_o son_n of_o such_o a_o mother_n as_o hold_v herself_o much_o behold_v to_o english_a catholic_n and_o himself_o in_o his_o little_a golden_a 〈◊〉_d book_n to_o his_o son_n the_o prince_n have_v confess_v that_o he_o have_v ever_o find_v the_o catholic_a party_n most_o trusty_a unto_o he_o and_o thereupon_o have_v do_v sundry_a ●avours_n to_o diverse_a of_o they_o and_o give_v no_o small_a hope_n of_o great_a unto_o other_o from_o this_o king_n i_o say_v who_o they_o so_o much_o love_v and_o honour_v receive_v so_o glad_o and_o with_o universal_a joy_n mean_v to_o serve_v faithful_o &_o trust_v that_o as_o he_o have_v unite_v the_o two_o kingdom_n in_o one_o obedience_n by_o his_o succession_n so_o will_v he_o by_o his_o liberality_n unite_v and_o conjoin_v the_o heart_n of_o all_o his_o subject_n in_o bear_v a_o sweet_a and_o equal_a hand_n towards_o they_o all_o from_o such_o a_o king_n i_o say_v for_o we_o to_o expect_v liberty_n of_o conscience_n and_o equality_n with_o other_o subject_n in_o this_o point_n at_o least_o of_o freedom_n of_o soul_n what_o height_n of_o pride_n may_v it_o be_v call_v be_v may_v it_o not_o rather_o seem_v height_n of_o pride_n in_o this_o minister_n &_o his_o fellow_n that_o have_v be_v old_a enemy_n and_o always_o bear_v a_o hard_a &_o hateful_a hand_n and_o tongue_n against_o his_o maiesti●_n both_o in_o their_o sermon_n book_n speech_n all_o the_o time_n of_o the_o late_a queen_n reign_n now_o upon_o the_o sudden_a sine_fw-la ullis_fw-la meritis_fw-la praecedentibus_fw-la will_v needs_o be_v so_o privilege_v &_o assume_v unto_o themselves_o such_o a_o confident_a presumption_n of_o his_o majesty_n special_a favour_n as_o to_o suffer_v no_o man_n to_o stand_v by_o they_o but_o to_o hold_v it_o for_o height_n of_o pride_n in_o we_o to_o hope_v for_o any_o freedom_n and_o liberty_n of_o our_o conscience_n at_o all_o what_o be_v height_n of_o pride_n and_o folly_n if_o this_o be_v not_o these_o be_v my_o word_n in_o my_o former_a book_n and_o now_o let_v we_o behold_v what_o m._n barlow_n lay_v forth_o against_o the_o same_o first_o he_o begin_v with_o a_o pull_n at_o the_o purytan_n though_o i_o neither_o name_v nor_o design_v they_o but_o only_o say_v as_o now_o your_o have_n hear_v that_o general_o all_o sort_n of_o protestant_n never_o so_o humble_a or_o far_o of_o from_o height_n of_o pride_n in_o their_o own_o conceit_n do_v allow_v and_o desire_v yea_o the_o more_o humble_a and_o underlinge_n they_o be_v the_o more_o earnest_n they_o insist_v both_o by_o book_n speech_n and_o preach_v to_o prove_v that_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n be_v most_o conform_a to_o god_n law_n etc._n etc._n whereupon_o m._n barlow_n make_v this_o comment_n that_o by_o underlinge_n protestant_n 110._o i_o do_v mean_v they_o that_o do_v sever_v themselves_o from_o he_o and_o hi●_n in_o matter_n of_o ceremony_n and_o church-goverment_n who_o be_v not_o underling_n say_v he_o because_o they_o be_v humble_a for_o that_o pride_n only_o keep_v they_o aloof_o it_o be_v not_o the_o inferior_a place_n say_v he_o or_o the_o deject_a visage_n or_o the_o soft_a voice_n or_o dislike_v of_o prelacy_n that_o do_v denominate_v humility_n barl●w_n and_o these_o be_v the_o note_n belike_o that_o do_v distinguish_v puritan_n from_o the_o protestant_n to_o wit_n the_o in●eriour_a place_n the_o deject_a ●isage_n the_o soft_a speech_n dislike_v of_o prelacy_n but_o yet_o i_o can_v but_o wonder_v to_o see_v he_o twice_o in_o this_o place_n to_o repeat_v that_o the_o difference_n between_o these_o brethren_n and_o them●elues●_n be_v only_o in_o matter_n of_o ceremony_n differ_v say_v he_o only_o in_o matter_n ceremonial_a though_o before_o he_o add_v also_o church-government_n whereby_o be_v evydent_a that_o he_o hould_v their_o church-government_n and_o prelacy_n matter_n of_o ceremony_n only_o and_o consequent_o also_o his_o own_o prelacy_n and_o his_o be_v a_o bishop_n be_v but_o a_o mere_a ceremony_n and_o no_o substantial_a matter_n in_o their_o religion_n now_o then_o let_v we_o see_v what_o ensue_v upon_o this_o and_o what_o honour_n and_o service_n m._n barlow_n do_v to_o his_o whole_a clergy_n and_o namely_o to_o his_o old_a master_n and_o lord_n of_o ca●terbury_n by_o this_o his_o new_a doctrine_n cause_n be_v all_o the_o dignity_n and_o pre-eminence_n which_o his_o say_a lord_n have_v above_o all_o the_o minister_n in_o england_n his_o superiority_n over_o the_o clergy_n his_o be_v archbishop_n &_o primate_n his_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n his_o court_n of_o the_o arch_n his_o power_n of_o dispensation_n his_o make_a minister_n and_o give_v they_o power_n to_o preach_v ●each_v &_o administer_v sacrament_n be_v all_o this_o but_o a_o ceremony_n or_o do_v the_o puritan_n in_o deny_v and_o impugn_v this_o impugn_v but_o a_o ceremony_n and_o no_o point_n of_o religion_n itself_o true_o then_o must_v i_o say_v that_o their_o cause_n against_o you_o be_v far_o better_a than_o i_o ever_o hitherto_o esteem_v it_o to_o be_v for_o if_o all_o these_o thing_n be_v but_o ceremony_n and_o contain_v no_o substantial_a point_n of_o religion_n why_o do_v you_o that_o in_o other_o thing_n profess_v yourselves_o enemy_n to_o ceremony_n stand_v so_o much_o upon_o they_o to_o the_o disturbance_n of_o the_o whole_a realm_n but_o of_o this_o i_o shall_v have_v occasion_n to_o speak_v again_o a_o little_a after_o and_o to_o lay_v open_a your_o absurdity_n in_o this_o evasion_n now_o only_o will_v i_o say_v a_o word_n to_o your_o argument_n which_o here_o you_o make_v against_o we_o for_o toleration_n or_o liberty_n of_o conscience●_n if_o t●ese_n humble_a underling_n say_v you_o dwell_v among_o 〈◊〉_d ●●●d_v differ_v only_o from_o we_o in_o matter_n ceremonial_a be_v not_o hear_v in_o their_o suit_n of_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n ibidem_fw-la how_o much_o less_o those_o who_o in_o point_n essential_a and_o fundamental_a be_v sever_v from_o we_o may_v not_o be_v tolerate_v whereunto_o i_o answer_v that_o if_o we_o respect_v reason_n and_o justice_n in_o
burial_n within_o saint_n church_n but_o the_o apparition_n must_v be_v presume_v to_o have_v be_v at_o certain_a particular_a place_n upon_o particular_a occasion_n where_o the_o say_v martyr_n will_v ut_fw-la sceleratorum_fw-la corpora_fw-la de_fw-la suis_fw-la basilicis_fw-la ei●cerentur_fw-la that_o the_o body_n of_o certain_a heinous_a wicked_a man_n such_o as_o infidel_n heretic_n excommunicate_v person_n be_v shall_v be_v cast_v out_o of_o their_o chapel_n why_o do_v m._n barlow_n confine_v the_o matter_n to_o these_o martyr_n pleasure_n that_o be_v decease_v &_o shrine_v in_o those_o place_n of_o germany_n where_o the_o emperor_n body_n lay_v have_v he_o a_o general_a licence_n to_o take_v away_o or_o add_v what_o he_o list_v to_o his_o author_n word_n and_o final_o those_o last_o word_n that_o they_o will_v not_o endure_v it_o write_v in_o great_a letter_n where_o do_v he_o find_v they_o and_o if_o he_o find_v they_o not_o who_o give_v he_o leave_v to_o add_v they_o and_o crown_v his_o own_o invention_n with_o capital_a letter_n be_v there_o no_o law_n of_o truth_n or_o sincerity_n be_v it_o lawful_a for_o every_o man_n to_o devise_v add_v alter_v cut_v of_o or_o disguise_v what_o he_o will_v without_o controlment_n be_v this_o the_o liberty_n of_o ghospeller_n ghospeller_n there_o have_v be_v now_o allege_v by_o he_o about_o this_o point_n some_o eight_o several_a author_n cuspinian_n helmodus_n vrspergensis_n nauclerus_fw-la sigonim_n binnius_n baronius_n and_o petrus_n diaconus_fw-la and_o every_o one_o have_v receive_v his_o cut_n will_v ever_o catholic_a writer_n be_v find_v that_o deal_v so_o with_o author_n and_o so_o much_o of_o this_o point_n father_n then_o follow_v the_o other_o whether_o the_o pope_n do_v stir_v up_o the_o emperor_n son_n that_o be_v henry_n the_o 5._o against_o his_o father_n and_o first_o i_o say_v that_o it_o can_v not_o be_v verify_v of_o pope_n hildebrand_n call_v gregory_n the_o seven_o for_o that_o the_o rebellion_n of_o the_o son_n succeed_v after_o gregory_n death_n and_o the_o report_n also_o be_v that_o gregory_n the_o 7._o before_o his_o death_n have_v absolve_v the_o same_o emperor_n henry_n the_o four_o 87._o and_o this_o i_o allege_v out_o of_o the_o apologer_n own_o author_n cuspinian_n and_o moreover_o i_o show_v that_o the_o say_v cuspinian_n affirm_v that_o the_o rise_n of_o the_o son_n against_o his_o father_n be_v by_o the_o persuasion_n of_o the_o marquis_n theobald_n and_o of_o ber●ngarius_n count_n of_o noricum_n now_o call_v st●ria_n and_o of_o otho_n which_o be_v near_o a_o kin_n unto_o he_o by_o his_o mother_n side_n and_o for_o confirmation_n of_o this_o i_o allege_v four_o other_o historiographer_n beside_o to_o wit_n vrspergensis_n nauclerus_fw-la crantzius_n and_o sigonius_n to_o all_o which_o authority_n m._n barlow_n reply_v never_o a_o word_n in_o this_o his_o answer_n yet_o to_o the_o former_a point_n wherein_o i_o say_v that_o the_o report_n be_v that_o gregory_n the_o 7._o do_v before_o his_o death_n absolve_v the_o emperor_n he_o answer_v thus_o 242._o first_o this_o be_v write_v but_o for_o a_o report_n than_o which_o there_o be_v nothing_o more_o uncertain_a say_v the_o orator_n but_o yet_o what_o follow_v hereof_o therefore_o the_o pope_n stir_v not_o up_o the_o son_n against_o the_o father_n a_o weak_a consequent_a whereto_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o consequent_a be_v good_a and_o strong_a to_o prove_v that_o pope_n gregory_n the_o 7._o of_o who_o i_o speak_v do_v not_o stir_v up_o the_o son_n against_o the_o father_n if_o he_o absolve_v he_o especial_o if_o you_o join_v this_o with_o the_o other_o allege_v by_o i_o that_o he_o take_v not_o arm_n against_o the_o father_n till_o after_o the_o say_v pope_n death_n and_o as_o for_o the_o other_o pope_n that_o follow_v victor_n vrbanus_n and_o pas●halis_n under_o who_o the_o rise_n of_o the_o son_n against_o his_o father_n be_v and_o under_o who_o the_o say_a henry_n the_o 4._o die_v almost_o twenty_o year_n after_o the_o death_n of_o gregory_n the_o seven_o the_o testimony_n now_o allege_v of_o those_o other_o three_o noble_a man_n that_o stir_v the_o say_a son_n against_o the_o father_n do_v sufficient_o deliver_v the_o sequent_a pope_n from_o that_o calumniation_n of_o set_v he_o on_o albeit_o it_o be_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o diverse_a year_n after_o when_o that_o all_o the_o state_n of_o germany_n do_v general_o so_o much_o mislike_v the_o life_n &_o government_n of_o henry_n the_o four_o as_o by_o common_a consent_n and_o counsel_n they_o determine_v that_o it_o be_v convenient_a and_o necessary_a for_o the_o good_a of_o christendom_n that_o he_o shall_v give_v over_o his_o government_n to_o his_o say_a son_n henry_n the_o 5._o paschalis_n the_o second_o of_o that_o name_n pope_n be_v inform_v by_o the_o say_a state_n of_o the_o say_a necessity_n and_o that_o christendom_n otherwise_o can_v not_o be_v quiet_v nor_o infinite_a misery_n calamity_n and_o abuse_n remedy_v he_o concur_v with_o they_o with_o his_o consent_n and_o approbation_n though_o himself_o be_v at_o rome_n and_o the_o diet_n or_o meeting_n of_o the_o state_n be_v hold_v at_o mentz_n from_o which_o parliament_n be_v send_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n three_o archbishop_n to_o wit_n of_o mentz_n cullen_n and_o worm_n all_o prince_n of_o the_o empire_n four_o to_o take_v from_o he_o that_o be_v prisoner_n in_o a_o little_a castle_n near_o unto_o that_o place_n all_o the_o imperial_a ornament_n and_o ensign_n belong_v to_o that_o state_n and_o to_o deliver_v they_o over_o to_o his_o son_n henry_n and_o so_o be_v it_o do_v and_o what_o more_o orderly_a proceed_n can_v there_o be_v then_o this_o in_o a_o act_n of_o such_o quality_n m._n barlow_n make_v it_o a_o heinous_a point_n against_o the_o pope_n for_o deal_v in_o the_o matter_n and_o bring_v in_o the_o testimony_n both_o of_o sigonius_n &_o genebrard_n to_o aggravate_v the_o same_o but_o both_o of_o they_o as_o always_o somewhat_o corrupt_v for_o albeit_o he_o do_v allege_v these_o word_n of_o sigonius_n true_o 1106._o which_o be_v speak_v by_o the_o foresaid_a t●ree_a ambassador_n unto_o henry_n the_o 4._o pon●●fici_fw-la principibusque_fw-la germaniae_fw-la placuit_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o have_v seem_v good_a to_o the_o pope_n and_o to_o the_o prince_n of_o germany_n that_o thou_o be_v deprive_v yet_o do_v he_o crafty_o leave_v out_o the_o reason_n yield_v of_o the_o say_a deposition_n by_o the_o ambassador_n to_o wit_n quia_fw-la tu_fw-la deterrimo_fw-la dissidio_fw-la multos_fw-la iam_fw-la annos_fw-la dei_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la lacerasti_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o that_o thou_o have_v rend_v the_o church_n of_o god_n many_o year_n by_o most_o wicked_a breach_n of_o discord_n and_o for_o that_o thou_o have_v put_v to_o sale_n both_o bishopricke_n abbey_n and_o all_o other_o ecclesiastical_a dignity_n and_o that_o thou_o have_v break_v all_o lawful_a order_n in_o choose_v of_o bishop_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o m._n barlow_n may_v not_o except_v against_o the_o testimony_n of_o these_o ambassador_n because_o they_o be_v then_o in_o actual_a opposition_n against_o he_o their_o sentence_n in_o this_o behalf_n may_v be_v confirm_v by_o one_o who_o be_v not_o the_o pope_n friend_n but_o of_o great_a authority_n as_o i_o suppose_v with_o m._n barlow_n to_o wit_n john_n caluyn_n himself_o 13._o who_o in_o his_o 4._o book_n of_o institution_n say_v thus_o henricus_fw-la imperator_fw-la eius_fw-la nominis_fw-la quartus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d levis_fw-la &_o temerarius_fw-la &c._n &c._n henry_n the_o 4._o emperor_n of_o that_o name_n a_o unconstant_a and_o rash_a man_n of_o no_o wit_n very_o audacious_a and_o of_o dissolute_a life_n have_v the_o bishopric_n of_o all_o germany_n expose_v in_o his_o court_n partly_o to_o sale_n and_o partly_o to_o pillage_v and_o a_o little_a after_o erat_fw-la henricus_fw-la etc._n etc._n this_o henry_n for_o his_o very_a insolent_a manner_n of_o government_n be_v odious_a to_o the_o most_o part_n of_o the_o prince_n so_o he_o but_o not_o to_o depart_v from_o sigonius_n 1093._o of_o who_o testimony_n we_o now_o special_o treat_v he_o that_o shall_v read_v what_o he_o relate_v of_o he_o out_o of_o helmodus_n and_o dodec●i●●●_n touch_v the_o horrible_a abuse_n do_v to_o the_o empress_n his_o wife_n call_v adelis_n by_o his_o commandment_n will_v be_v ashamed_a if_o he_o have_v any_o shame_n in_o he_o to_o praise_v and_o commend_v a_o man_n of_o so_o monstrous_a iniquity_n as_o i_o for_o my_o part_n do_v for_o mere_a shame_n forbear_v to_o express_v the_o thing_n and_o beside_o that_o his_o other_o excess_n be_v so_o enormous_a in_o the_o eye_n of_o all_o disapassionate_a man_n as_o he_o of_o all_o other_o may_v least_o seem_v worthy_a to_o be_v produce_v for_o a_o example_n of_o such_o as_o have_v sustain_v wrong_a at_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o pope_n in_o regard_n
least_o a_o great_a oversight_n in_o he_o to_o look_v so_o negligent_o to_o what_o he_o write_v but_o if_o he_o do_v see_v it_o &_o yet_o wou●d_v so_o false_o allege_v it_o than_o be_v a_o purgation_n rather_o to_o be_v wish_v for_o his_o conscience_n then_o for_o his_o brain_n but_o he_o cease_v not_o here_o we_o must_v see_v two_o or_o three_o false_a trick_n of_o his_o more_o first_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o prove_v that_o bella●mine_n in_o the_o place_n before_o cite_v de_fw-fr clericis_fw-la 14._o do_v ind●●d_n prove_v tha●_n bishop_n do_v succeed_v the_o apostle_n not_o only_o in_o power_n of_o holy_a order_n but_o also_o of_o jurisdiction_n for_o that_o b●llarmine_n be_v to_o prove_v say_v he_o according_a to_o the_o title_n of_o his_o chapter_n that_o bishop_n be_v great_a than_o priest_n he_o setch_v his_o s●cond_o reason_n from_o their_o different_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n because_o they_o the_o bishop_n have_v the_o same_o that_o the_o apostle_n have_v nam_fw-la ●pi●copos_fw-fr apostolis_n succedere_fw-la that_o bishop_n do_v succee_v the_o apostle_n therein_o be_v not_o one_o man_n testimony_n alone_o constant_a docent_fw-la omnes_fw-la patres_fw-la say_v he_o all_o the_o father_n do_v hold_v it_o with_o one_o consent_n without_o vary_v in_o themselves_o or_o differ_v from_o other_o hitherto_o m._n barlow_n and_o if_o he_o show_v himself_o faithful_a in_o this_o you_o may_v trust_v he_o if_o you_o will_v another_o time_n but_o if_o in_o this_o as_o in_o most_o other_o thing_n he_o still_o use_v shift_v than_o you_o may_v trust_v he_o as_o you_o find_v he_o first_o than_o it_o be_v true_a that_o card●_n bellarmine_n his_o purpose_n in_o this_o 14._o chapter_n be_v to_o prove_v against_o calvin_n and_o some_o other_o protestant_n that_o bishop_n and_o priest_n be_v not_o equal_a in_o degree_n but_o that_o priest_n be_v inferior_a to_o bishop_n and_o he_o promise_v to_o prove_v three_o point_n first_o that_o a_o bishop_n be_v great_a than_o a_o priest_n quoad_fw-la ordinis_fw-la po●estatem_fw-la in_o the_o pow●r_n of_o holy_a order_n second_o quantùm_fw-la ad_fw-la iurisdictionem_fw-la that_o he_o i●_n great_a also_o in_o jurisdiction_n for_o that_o a_o priest_n have_v jurisdiction_n but_o over_o one_o parish_n and_o a_o bishop_n over_o his_o diocese_n three_o that_o bishop_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v not_o only_o as_o calvin_n say_v like_o consul_n in_o a_o senate_n but_o like_o prince_n rat●er_n in_o 〈◊〉_d the_o fir●t_o an●_n 〈◊〉_d of_o which_o point_v appertain_v not_o to_o our_o p●●s●nt_a p●●po●e_n ●ut_v ●●ly_o the_o ●●cond_a about_o jurisdiction_n use_v this_o not_o much_o nei●her_n if_o you_o consider_v it_o we●l_o ●or_a that_o cardina●●_n 〈◊〉_d in●ent_n be_v to_o show_v that_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o b●s●ops_n i●_n great_a they_o that_o o●_n priest_n but_o not_o th●t_a bishop_n have_v a●l_o the_o jurisdiction_n which_o the_o apostle_n have_v no●_n do_v ●e_n once_o name_v it_o or_o say_v any_o such_o thing_n and_o it_o be_v a_o notorious_a deceit_n of_o m._n bar●●●_n when_o he_o say_v ●●ere_o that_o 〈◊〉_d fetch_v his_o s●cond_o re●son_n to_o prove_v the_o pre-eminence_n of_o bishop_n above_o priest_n from_o their_o power_n of_o iuridis●tion_n because_o they_o have_v the_o s●me_n that_o the_o apostle_n have_v bellarmine_n word_n be_v these_o se●●●●●_n probatur_fw-la h●c_fw-la idem_fw-la ex_fw-la aistin●●i●ue_fw-la apos●clo●um_fw-la &_o dis●ip●lor●m_fw-la s●ptuaginta_fw-la second_o the_o same_o be_v prove_v to_o wit_n that_o bishop_n be_v great_a than_o priest_n by_o the_o distinction_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o seventy_o disciple_n and_o then_o do_v ensue_v immediate_o those_o word_n epis●opos_n apostolis_n suc●edere_fw-la that_o bishop_n do_v succeed_v the_o apostle_n and_o priest_n the_o seventy_o disciple_n all_o father_n do_v constant_o teach_v so_o that_o here_o bellarmine_n do_v not_o find_v his_o argument_n of_o prove_v bishop_n to_o be_v great_a and_o worthy_a than_o priests●_n upon_o the_o succession_n of_o bishop_n to_o the_o apostle_n apostlicall_a jurisdiction_n but_o in_o the_o dignity_n of_o holy_a order_n which_o be_v sufficient_a to_o prove_v they_o to_o be_v great_a than_o priest_n nor_o do_v he_o fetch_v this_o his_o second_o reason_n from_o jurisdiction_n but_o from_o distinction_n as_o you_o see_v in_o his_o plain_a word_n and_o therefore_o these_o other_o word_n of_o m._n barlow_n write_v in_o great_a letter_n that_o they_o have_v the_o same_o to_o wit_n jurisdiction_n which_o the_o apostle_n have_v and_o do_v succeed_v the_o apostle_n therein_o this_o i_o say_v be_v false_o put_v in_o and_o he_o do_v well_o to_o write_v the_o word_n therein_o in_o markable_a great_a letter_n le●●ters_n for_o that_o it_o contain_v a_o markable_a fraud_n no_o such_o word_n b●ing_v in_o bellarmine_n to_o that_o sense_n nor_o do_v all_o father_n nor_o any_o father_n teach_v this_o that_o bishop_n succeed_v the_o apostle_n in_o apostolical_a jurisdiction_n but_o rather_o the_o plain_a contrary_n as_o be_v large_o prove_v in_o the_o other_o place_n cite_v out_o of_o the_o forth_o book_n de_fw-fr pontifice_fw-la where_o the_o negative_a be_v put_v down_o by_o bellarmine_n as_o you_o have_v hear_v concern_v apostolical_a jurisdiction_n to_o wit_n that_o bishop_n do_v not_o therein_o succeed_v unto_o the_o apostle_n which_o though_o of_o itself_o it_o be_v evident_a for_o that_o every_o bishop_n have_v not_o jurisdiction_n over_o the_o whole_a world_n as_o the_o apostle_n have_v nor_o may_v teach_v or_o preach_v or_o build_v churche●_n throughout_o the_o world_n as_o they_o by_o their_o universal_a jurisdiction_n may_v yet_o do_v bellarmine_n prove_v the_o same_o large_o throughout_o four_o whole_a chapter_n together_o show_v that_o albeit_o christ_n our_o saviour_n do_v give_v immediate_o unto_o all_o the_o apostle_n universal_a jurisdiction_n over_o the_o world_n but_o yet_o different_o to_o s._n peter_n from_o the_o rest_n for_o that_o he_o be_v appoint_v to_o be_v the_o ordinary_a high_a pastor_n over_o the_o same_o and_o they_o extraordinary_a and_o consequent_o he_o to_o have_v successor_n in_o his_o universal_a jurisdiction_n and_o they_o not_o yet_o do_v he_o not_o so_o give_v it_o to_o all_o their_o successor_n but_o only_o mediate_o by_o the_o chief_a ordinary_a pastor_n of_o all_o which_o be_v peter_n successor_n and_o that_o also_o with_o more_o limitation_n of_o place_n whereof_o ensue_v that_o no_o bishop_n beside_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n though_o he_o succee_v the_o apostle_n in_o dignity_n of_o episcopal_a order_n yet_o do_v he_o no●_n in_o jurisdiction_n but_o receive_v that_o mediate_o only_a from_o god_n by_o the_o say_a bishop_n of_o rome_n 25._o and_o this_o do_v bellarmin_n prove_v to_o wit_n that_o all_o bishop_n take_v their_o jurisdiction_n from_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n by_o eight_o several_a argument_n out_o of_o scripture_n father_n counsel_n and_o reason_n in_o one_o chapter_n which_o be_v the_o 24._o next_o follow_v and_o answer_v all_o the_o argument_n object_v to_o the_o contrary_a to_o wit_n fix_v by_o name_n repeat_v often_o and_o prove_v that_o in_o this_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n episcopi_fw-la non_fw-la succedunt_fw-la proprie_fw-la apost●lis_fw-la bishop_n do_v not_o succeed_v proper_o the_o apostle_n expound_v also_o what_o he_o mean_v by_o the_o word_n properly_z dicuntur_fw-la episcopi_fw-la say_v he_o succedere_fw-la apostolis_n non_fw-la proprie_fw-la eo_fw-la modo_fw-la quo_fw-la ●nus_fw-la episcopus_fw-la alteri_fw-la unus_fw-la rex_fw-la alteri_fw-la sed_fw-la duplici_fw-la alia_fw-la ratione_fw-la primò_fw-la ratione_fw-la ordinis_fw-la sacri_fw-la episcopalis_fw-la secundò_fw-la per_fw-la quamdam_fw-la similitu●inem_fw-la etc._n etc._n bishop_n be_v say_v to_o succeed_v the_o apostle_n not_o proper_o as_o one_o bishop_n succeed_v another_o and_o one_o king_n another_z in_o all_o their_o power_n and_o jurisdiction_n but_o two_o other_o way_n the_o first_o by_o reason_n of_o sacred_a episcopal_a order_n which_o they_o have_v which_o the_o apostle_n have_v and_o second_o by_o a_o certain_a similitude_n or_o proportion_n that_o as_o the_o apostle_n be_v the_o ●irst_n and_o immediate_a under_o christ_n when_o he_o be_v upon_o earth_n so_o be_v bishop_n now_o under_o the_o chief_a bishop_n etc._n etc._n a●l_o which_o be_v set_v down_o so_o clear_o in_o bellarmine_n own_o word_n and_o write_n hear_v i_o pray_v you_o what_o modest_a conclusion_n m._n ba●low_n make_v of_o all_o that_o be_v say_v 269._o if_o he_o stand_v say_v he_o on_o the_o place_n where_o the_o negative_a be_v to_o wit_n in_o the_o four_o book_n de_fw-fr pontifice_fw-la there_o indeed_o the_o cardinal_n drive_v to_o ●is_n shift_n be_v force_v to_o coin_v this_o distinction_n but_o yet_o that_o salve_n not_o the_o contradiction_n but_o make_v it_o great_a for_o therein_o he_o show_v barlow_n that_o he_o manifest_o oppose_v both_o himself_o and_o all_o the_o father_n for_o in_o superiority_n of_o jurisdiction_n bishop_n by_o
that_o he_o deny_v passage_n by_o ●ea_n to_o the_o sign_a soldier_n in_o apulia_n and_o lombardy_n which_o come_v far_o short_a of_o keep_v back_o all_o supply_n unless_o it_o may_v be_v prove_v that_o ●e_n have_v no_o ot●er_a soldier_n but_o in_o those_o two_o place_n or_o that_o they_o can_v have_v no_o passage_n but_o from_o thence_o both_o which_o be_v very_o false_a as_o this_o charge_n be_v both_o ridiculous_a &_o untrue_a ridiculous_a for_o the_o war_n be_v so_o ●oat_n on_o foot_n both_o in_o lombardy_n and_o apulia_n what_o need_n be_v there_o of_o any_o prohibition_n ●or_a not_o send_v away_o of_o soldier_n out_o of_o these_o part_n when_o as_o they_o be_v so_o needful_a at_o home_n untrue_a for_o that_o m._n barlow_n can_v be_v ignorant_a that_o frederick_n in_o his_o letter_n to_o the_o duke_n of_o cornwall_n which_o he_o write_v after_o his_o return_n from_o the_o holy-land_n &_o in_o which_o he_o lay_v down_o all_o his_o aggrievance_n sustain_v as_o he_o will_v have_v the_o world_n to_o believe_v at_o the_o pope_n hand_n have_v not_o one_o syllable_n thereof_o which_o silence_n can_v not_o come_v of_o any_o forgetfulness_n be_v write_v a●ter_v his_o return_n when_o thing_n be_v fresh_a in_o his_o mind_n nor_o yet_o of_o any_o desire_n he_o have_v to_o spare_v the_o pope_n see_v that_o lesser_a matter_n &_o more_o unlikely_a be_v there_o urge_v with_o the_o most_o advantage_n and_o by_o all_o mean_v he_o do_v seek_v by_o this_o accusation_n to_o discredit_v he_o with_o all_o prince_n as_o the_o most_o potent_a mean_n to_o cover_v his_o own_o shame_n and_o dishonourable_a behaviour_n as_o well_o in_o the_o holy-land_n as_o in_o other_o part_n of_o europe_n second_o it_o be_v false_a that_o the_o emperor_n perform_v his_o promise_n which_o be_v to_o go_v to_o aid_v the_o christian_n and_o recover_v the_o holy-land_n whereas_o he_o with_o his_o secret_a and_o treacherous_a treaty_n &_o peace_n which_o of_o purpose_n he_o make_v to_o hinder_v the_o war_n intend_v against_o the_o sultan_n say_v antoninus_n &_o villanus_fw-la betray_v they_o both_o the_o one_o to_o wit_n the_o christian_n sustain_v intolerable_a injury_n at_o his_o hand_n and_o jerusalem_n with_o all_o the_o country_n soon_o after_o his_o return_n be_v utter_o lose_v and_o this_o cause_n all_o author_n allege_v for_o the_o not_o absolve_v of_o the_o emperor_n by_o pope_n gregory_n when_o by_o his_o ambassador_n he_o do_v request_v it_o to_o who_o say_v crantzius_n 2._o the_o pope_n even_o to_o their_o face_n object_v the_o perfidious_a deal_n of_o their_o lord_n the_o emperor_n &_o as_o faz●lius_n add_v ●●●ato_fw-it even_o the_o very_a turk_n themselves_o confess_v that_o have_v frederick_n join_v with_o the_o christian_n and_o fight_v ●gainst_a they_o he_o have_v get_v out_o of_o their_o hand_n by_o force_n both_o city_n and_o kingdom_n and_o the_o evidence_n of_o this_o truth_n be_v so_o radiant_a to_o use_v m._n barlow_v phrase_n that_o even_o the_o above_o name_v zwinglian_n huld●●icus_n mutius_n write_v of_o this_o request_n of_o the_o emperor_n sup●a_fw-la &_o the_o pop_z denial_n set_v down_o the_o matter_n in_o these_o word_n mit●it_fw-la autem_fw-la in_o europam_fw-la legatos_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o emperor_n send_v his_o ambassador_n to_o ●●gni●y_v to_o the_o pope_n and_o prince_n how_o he_o have_v force_v the_o sultan_n to_o yield_v he_o up_o jerusalem_n but_o that_o peace_n with_o the_o sultan_n nothing_o please_v the_o pope_n who_o forsaw_v that_o it_o will_v not_o endure_v because_o the_o chief_a strength_n of_o the_o kingdom_n remain_v in_o the_o enemy_n hand_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o as_o soon_o as_o the_o christian_a army_n shall_v be_v dissolve_v the_o enemy_n will_v easy_o recover_v all_o again_o neither_o be_v frederick_n himself_o so_o simple_a that_o he_o see_v not_o this_o but_o that_o his_o mind_n be_v whole_o set_v on_o germany_n and_o italy_n and_o think_v it_o enough_o for_o he_o to_o have_v satisfy_v his_o vow_n by_o go_v thither_o sic_fw-la fit_a cum_fw-la venatur_fw-la aliq●is_fw-la in●i●is_fw-la ●a●ilus_fw-la so_o it_o fall_v out_o say_v he_o when_o man_n do_v hunt_v with_o dog_n that_o have_v no_o list_n to_o run_v and_o naucleru●_n show_v the_o issue_n of_o this_o affair_n after_o the_o emperors_n return_n into_o europe_n upon_o the_o year_n 1247._o where_o he_o write_v that_o this_o very_a sultan_n of_o babylon_n 1247._o with_o who_o the_o emperor_n have_v deal_v cause_v the_o arabians_n to_o rise_v in_o arm_n against_o the_o christian_n which_o arabian_n set_n first_o upon_o the_o knight_n of_o the_o temple_n quite_o vanquish_v they_o and_o easy_o take_v the_o city_n of_o jerusalem_n which_o have_v no_o wall_n to_o defend_v it_o &_o slay_v the_o christian_n that_o be_v in_o the_o same_o and_o the_o sepulchre_n of_o our_o saviour_n which_o until_o that_o time_n have_v be_v keep_v untouched_a be_v now_o with_o great_a shame_n defile_v thus_o he_o and_o this_o may_v suffice_v to_o show_v how_o well_o frederick_n perform_v his_o promise_n and_o what_o good_a office_n he_o do_v to_o the_o christian_a cause_n by_o his_o go_v to_o the_o holy-land_n the_o three_o which_o follow_v be_v so_o eminent_a a_o untruth_n that_o alone_o it_o may_v carry_v away_o the_o silver_n whetstone_n from_o all_o the_o liar_n of_o lincoln_n for_o who_o ever_o hear_v or_o read_v before_o m._n barlow_n set_v it_o out_o in_o print_n that_o the_o pope_n ●ommaund●d_v the_o christian_a soldier_n in_o asia_n to_o leave_v the_o emperor_n to_o the_o turk_n malice_n what_o malice_n be_v this_o in_o m._n barlow_n to_o report_v so_o shameful_a a_o untruth_n what_o author_n beside_o himself_o do_v aver_v it_o in_o this_o manner_n as_o he_o do_v for_o the_o pope_n know_v full_a w●ll_n that_o frederick_n be_v in_o no_o danger_n of_o the_o turk_n with_o who_o before_o his_o departure_n from_o europe_n he_o have_v make_v peace_n and_o by_o who_o upon_o his_o arrival_n into_o syria_n 1228._o he_o be_v still_o either_o fea_v or_o present_v with_o rich_a gift_n in_o recompense_n of_o his_o perfidious_a league_n by_o which_o he_o betray_v the_o christian_a army_n and_o cause_n as_o have_v be_v declare_v and_o all_o that_o which_o naucl●rus_n say_v who_o m._n barlow_n cit_v to_o aver_v the_o same_o be_v in_o these_o word_n barlow_n pontisex_n hospitalarijs_fw-la templarijsque_fw-la in_o asia_n mili●an●ibus_fw-la ut_fw-la ●rederico_fw-la tamquam_fw-la hosti_fw-la publico_fw-la savores_fw-la detraher●nt_fw-la iniunxit_fw-la the_o pope_n command_v the_o knight_n of_o the_o hospital_n and_o templare_v to_o withdraw_v their_o help_n from_o frederick_n as_o from_o a_o public_a enemy_n or_o as_o other_o author_n platina_n fazelius_fw-la paulus_n a●milius_n &_o other_o expres●e_v it_o ut_fw-la ab_fw-la impera●or●●ave●●nt_fw-la supr●_n that_o they_o shall_v beware_v of_o the_o emperor_n and_o the_o last_o name_v be_v more_o particular_a say_v ut_fw-la cau●●ët_n nomini_fw-la christiano_n insidias_fw-la à_fw-la perditissima_fw-la simulatione_fw-la f●ederi●i_fw-la that_o they_o shall_v beware_v of_o the_o treachery_n intend_v against_o the_o christian_a cause_n by_o the_o most_o wicked_a dissimulation_n of_o fr●d●ri●ke_n s●_n he_o a●d_a they_o add_v ne●_n vana_fw-la suspitio_fw-la visa_fw-la arabibus_fw-la a●●yp●y●que_fw-la aequio●_n inu●ni●atu●_n caesar_n quam_fw-la nostris_fw-la neither_o be_v this_o a_o vain_a suspicion_n ●or_a the_o emperor_n be_v find_v to_o be_v a_o great_a friend_n to_o the_o arabian_n &_o egyptian_n they_o to_o the_o christian_n and_o this_o alone_a show_v how_o free_a frederi●ke_n be_v from_o any_o danger_n at_o the_o sultan_n hand_n which_o the_o pope_n well_o know_v can_v not_o intend_v to_o leave_v he_o to_o his_o malice_n as_o m._n barlow_n have_v most_o confident_o affirm_v but_o contrary_a wise_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o great_a league_n and_o love_n that_o be_v between_o he_o and_o the_o sultan_n he_o fear_v more_o that_o the_o emperor_n will_v betray_v the_o christian_n and_o leave_v they_o to_o the_o sultan_n malice_n as_o in_o the_o end_n it_o fall_v out_o as_o now_o you_o have_v hear_v then_o that_o they_o shall_v leave_v he_o of_o who_o there_o be_v no_o fear_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o ten_o year_n truce_n already_o make_v between_o they_o by_o which_o fred●ricke_n be_v secure_a from_o all_o danger_n and_o may_v stay_v in_o the_o holy-land_n and_o return_v at_o his_o pleasure_n which_o be_v so_o and_o the_o emperor_n excommunicate_v at_o this_o time_n there_o be_v great_a reason_n why_o the_o pope_n shall_v give_v order_n to_o the_o christian_n for_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o to_o wit_n as_o well_o to_o take_v heed_n of_o he_o as_o of_o a_o perfidious_a traitor_n to_o the_o cause_n as_o also_o to_o withdraw_v their_o favour_n from_o he_o as_o from_o a_o excommunicate_v person_n and_o public_a enemy_n of_o the_o church_n but_o both_o of_o these_o come_v far_o short_a of_o
be_v more_o require_v to_o make_v m._n barlow_n free_a of_o this_o trade_n that_o in_o defend_v his_o majesty_n either_o by_o violent_a inducement_n or_o evident_a demonstration_n have_v bring_v no_o other_o argument_n for_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o but_o mere_a cog_a lie_a and_o forgery_n and_o that_o you_o may_v know_v that_o he_o will_v end_v as_o well_o as_o he_o begin_v thus_o he_o knit_v up_o all_o his_o discourse_n of_o this_o emperor_n frederick_n pope_n innocentius_n the_o 4._o do_v see_v that_o his_o act_n can_v be_v no_o long_o hide_v fox_n descry_v they_o be_v and_o be_v be_v time_n for_o he_o to_o speak●_n and_o then_o if_o he_o will_v not_o make_v the_o best_a for_o himself_o with_o his_o own_o pe●_n he_o may_v have_v be_v beg_v for_o a_o innocent_a this_o be_v the_o final_a upshot_n of_o his_o defence_n and_o it_o be_v marvel_v that_o he_o do_v not_o adjoine_v john_n fox_n his_o dream_n of_o the_o same_o pope_n how_o before_o his_o death_n at_o naples_n he_o hear_v a_o voice_n say_v veni_fw-la miser_n ad_fw-la iudicium_fw-la dei_fw-la come_v thou_o wretch_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n and_o the_o next_o day_n he_o be_v say_v this_o fable_a goose_n find_v in_o his_o bed_n all_o black_a and_o blue_a as_o though_o he_o have_v be_v beat_v with_o bat_n if_o you_o ask_v what_o author_n affirm_v it_o john_n fox_n only_o tell_v you_o that_o the_o writer_n of_o annales_n record_v it_o but_o who_o these_o writer_n be_v and_o what_o their_o name_n be_v you_o may_v seek_v if_o you_o list_v and_o find_v if_o you_o can_v for_o he_o give_v you_o no_o further_o direction_n perchance_o he_o have_v it_o by_o revelation_n as_o he_o have_v the_o explication_n of_o the_o apocalypse_n for_o count_v the_o month_n by_o sabboth_n ●_o when_o the_o spirit_n that_o speak_v with_o a_o majesty_n within_o he_o call_v he_o thou_o fool_n pope_n innocentius_n act_n say_v m._n barlow_n can_v be_v no_o long_o hide_v descry_v they_o be_v etc._n etc._n what_o be_v these_o act_n i_o pray_v you_o be_v they_o these_o which_o you_o huddle_n together_o for_o strong_a presumption_n and_o vehementinducement_n to_o prove_v that_o he_o will_v have_v poison_v the_o emperor_n but_o all_o these_o we_o have_v show_v in_o case_n they_o have_v be_v true_a as_o they_o have_v prove_v false_a to_o touch_v gregory_n 9_o and_o no_o way_n to_o concern_v innocentius_n and_o if_o you_o mean_v the_o other_o part_n of_o your_o charge_n concern_v the_o same_o subject_n of_o his_o hire_v one_o to_o poison_v he_o that_o also_o we_o have_v show_v to_o be_v as_o false_a as_o the_o former_a what_o then_o be_v th●se_a great_a matter_n with_o which_o innocentius_n be_v to_o be_v charge_v forsooth_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v impose_v upon_o he_o by_o pe●●us_n de_fw-fr vin●is_fw-la but_o what_o reason_n be_v there_o that_o i_o shall_v believe_v more_o this_o author_n against_o the_o pope_n than_o the_o pope_n against_o he_o to_o this_o m._n barlow_n so_o answer_v as_o if_o there_o be_v no_o other_o proof_n it_o alone_o may_v suffice_v to_o show_v his_o folly_n and_o unsincerity_n i_o shall_v very_o brief_o let_v you_o see_v what_o he_o say_v hereunto_o and_o if_o you_o know_v not_o his_o wit_n before_o now_o may_v you_o take_v the_o just_a valuation_n and_o measure_n thereof_o by_o this_o example_n it_o be_v object_v by_o i_o that_o petrus_n de_fw-fr vineis_fw-la be_v a_o servant_n of_o frederick_n and_o swear_v enemy_n to_o the_o pope_n to_o this_o m._n barlow_n give_v three_o answer_n examine_v first_o that_o so_o be_v s●●iu●_n &_o baronius_n to_o the_o pope_n sea_n and_o profess_a enemy_n of_o their_o religion_n but_o this_o reach_v not_o home_n for_o these_o collect_v their_o history_n out_o of_o other_o record_n and_o write_v nothing_o of_o themselves_o but_o only_o relate_v what_o they_o find_v in_o other_o and_o therefore_o be_v credit_v according_a to_o the_o weight_n of_o proole_n or_o reason_n which_o they_o bring_v to_o confirm_v that_o which_o they_o write_v second_o say_v m._n barlow_n servant_n do_v not_o always_o speak_v the_o best_a of_o their_o master_n etc._n etc._n and_o he_o as_o appear_z by_o cuspinian_n dissemble_v not_o even_o the_o foul_a vice_n o●_n the_o emperor_n his_o master_n this_o lo_o be_v far_o more_o silly_a than_o the_o former_a for_o although_o that_o servant_n do_v not_o always_o speak_v the_o best_a of_o their_o master_n yet_o for_o the_o most_o part_n they_o do_v especial_o if_o they_o by_o prince_n and_o that_o to_o the_o uttemost_a with_o most_o palpable_a flattery_n &_o most_o of_o all_o if_o they_o speak_v or_o write_v that_o which_o their_o master_n may_v hear_v or_o read_v as_o petrus_n de_fw-fr vineis_fw-la do_v while_o he_o be_v in_o frederickes_n special_a favour_n &_o grace_n and_o as_o we_o see_v m._n bar●_n to_o do_v throughout_o all_o this_o loose_a idle_a work_n of_o he_o when_o he_o have_v occasion_n to_o speak_v of_o his_o majesty_n which_o also_o he_o often_o of_o purpose_n take_v where_o none_o be_v give_v and_o not_o to_o seek_v further_o for_o a_o example_n in_o this_o kind_n of_o sycophancy_n beside_o many_o other_o which_o before_o have_v be_v allege_v the_o very_a next_o ensue_v word_n after_o those_o of_o his_o charge_n against_o pope_n innocentius_n most_o evident_o confirm_v the_o same_o wherein_o all_o his_o poor_a wit_n and_o skill_n be_v bend_v to_o flatter_v his_o majesty_n to_o the_o uttermost_a and_o whereas_o m._n barlow_n say_v that_o pe●r●●_n de_fw-fr vineis_fw-la as_o it_o appear_v by_o cuspinian_n do_v not_o dissemble_v his_o master_n foul_a vice_n barlow_n it_o be_v a_o clear_a sign_n that_o they_o be_v so_o foul_a as_o that_o they_o can_v not_o be_v dissemble_v although_o i_o rather_o think_v these_o thing_n in_o cuspinian_n concern_v the_o emperor_n vice_n to_o be_v speak_v by_o cuspinian_n himself_o out_o of_o other_o author_n for_o that_o petrus_n de_fw-fr vineis_fw-la shall_v so_o write_v of_o the_o emperor_n and_o that_o in_o the_o say_v emperor_n time_n while_o he_o be_v in_o grace_n with_o he_o seem_v a_o mere_a fiction_n neither_o do_v cuspinian_n infinuate_v any_o such_o thing_n out_o of_o petrus_n de_fw-fr vineis_fw-la as_o m._n barlow_n here_o will_v make_v we_o believe_v and_o therefore_o this_o may_v pass_v for_o another_o untruth_n and_o to_o this_o we_o may_v adjoine_v a_o very_a solemn_a foolery_n which_o follow_v in_o the_o very_a next_o page_n where_o forsooth_o he_o reject_v blondus_n by_o the_o same_o reason_n by_o which_o he_o here_o justify_v petrus_n de_fw-fr vineis_fw-la barlo●_n to_o wit_n because_o he_o be_v secretary_n and_o servant_n to_o a_o pope_n nick-naming_a he_o gloss_v recorder_n blondus_n &_o painful_a pseudolus_n and_o yet_o he_o confess_v that_o he_o live_v two_o huder_v year_n after_o innocentius_n in_o which_o respect_n there_o be_v less_o cause_n of_o any_o suspicion_n in_o write_v partial_o of_o innocentius_n as_o have_v no_o dependence_n of_o he_o than_o there_o be_v of_o petrus_n de_fw-fr vineis_fw-la servant_n and_o secretary_n to_o the_o emperor_n and_o write_v while_o the_o emperor_n be_v alive_a and_o himself_o in_o his_o service_n the_o three_o answer_n then_o which_o of_o all_o the_o rest_n be_v most_o silly_a and_o simple_a m._n barlow_n feter_v down_o thus_o three_o say_v he_o vineis_fw-la neither_o do_v vineis_fw-la write_v this_o as_o a_o servant_n but_o as_o a_o historian_n who_o in_o all_o his_o tract_n must_v have_v m●●e_n to_o the_o ●●th_n without_o w●●ch_a as_o polybius_n well_o resemble_v it_o be_v like_o a_o live_a body_n with_o all_o the_o bone_n take_v out_o thus_o he_o and_o do_v not_o this_o reason_n clear_a as_o well_o blondus_n as_o petrus_n de_fw-fr vineis_fw-la for_o do_v not_o bloudu●_n write_v as_o a_o historiam_fw-la &_o not_o as_o a_o servant_n or_o do_v petrus_n de_fw-la vineis_fw-la write_v any_o history_n i_o will_v glad_o know_v what_o proof_n he_o have_v for_o the_o same_o 296._o for_o i_o find_v no_o such_o history_n of_o he_o nor_o any_o record_n thereof_o only_o i_o find_v record_v his_o epistle_n as_o well_o in_o his_o own_o name_n as_o the_o emperor_n &_o therefore_o as_o may_v be_v presume_v write_v by_o he_o more_o like_o a_o servant_n than_o a_o historian_n and_o true_o this_o reason_n of_o m._n barlows_n seem_v to_o justify_v all_o history_n that_o ever_o be_v write_v see_v that_o as_o he_o say_v a_o historian_n must_v always_o have_v a_o eye_n to_o the_o truth_n and_o therefore_o petrus_n de_fw-fr vineis_fw-la when_o he_o write_v the_o history_n of_o the_o emperor_n do_v write_v the_o truth_n &_o so_o do_v philostratus_n when_o he_o write_v of_o apolonius_n tranaeus_n &_o gessrey_n of_o monmouth_n in_o set_v down_o the_o ge●ts_n of_o vther-pendragon_n &_o prince_n arthar_n these_o be_v the_o reason_n