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A15082 A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of DivĀ· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit* White, Francis, 1564?-1638.; Laud, William, 1573-1645.; Baylie, Richard, b. 1585 or 6, attributed name.; Cockson, Thomas, engraver.; Fisher, John, 1569-1641. 1624 (1624) STC 25382; ESTC S122241 841,497 706

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none_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n maintain_v romish_n transubstantiation_n and_o i_o have_v not_o observe_v one_o express_a testimony_n produce_v by_o romist_n wherein_o the_o primative_a father_n nay_o where_o damascene_fw-la 6._o or_o theophilact_n affirm_v that_o the_o whole_a material_a substance_n and_o form_n essential_a of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v destroy_v the_o bare_a accident_n and_o quantity_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v or_o that_o the_o abstract_a figure_n and_o quality_n of_o those_o creature_n be_v receive_v into_o the_o mouth_n and_o stomach_n and_o be_v taste_v feel_v and_o confer_v nourishment_n without_o any_o earthly_a matter_n conjoin_v to_o they_o but_o on_o the_o contrary_a many_o father_n affirm_v that_o after_o consecration_n bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v theodoret_n etc._n say_v that_o they_o lose_v not_o their_o proper_a nature_n but_o remain_v after_o they_o be_v sanctify_v in_o their_o former_a essence_n figure_n and_o kind_a gelasius_n 565._o say_v esse_fw-la non_fw-la desinit_fw-la substantia_fw-la vel_fw-la natura_fw-la panis_fw-la &_o vini_fw-la the_o substance_n or_o nature_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n cease_v not_o to_o be_v bertram_z 38._o say_v secundam_fw-la creaturarum_fw-la substantiam_fw-la quod_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la ante_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la hoc_fw-la &_o postea_fw-la consistunt_fw-la according_a to_o the_o substance_n of_o creature_n they_o persist_v the_o same_o before_o and_o after_o consecration_n ireneus_fw-la 34._o teach_v that_o bread_n which_o be_v from_o the_o earth_n receive_v divine_a calling_n or_o sanctification_n be_v not_o common_a bread_n but_o the_o eucharist_n consist_v of_o two_o several_a thing_n or_o matter_n one_o earthly_a and_o the_o other_o celestial_a saint_n chrysostome_n etc._n before_o sanctification_n we_o call_v it_o bread_n only_o but_o when_o divine_a grace_n have_v sanctify_v it_o it_o be_v deliver_v from_o the_o name_n of_o bread_n and_o be_v count_v worthy_a of_o the_o appellation_n of_o the_o lord_n body_n although_o the_o nature_n of_o bread_n remain_v in_o it_o still_o damascene_fw-la 14._o say_v as_o a_o fiery_a coal_n be_v wood_n and_o fire_n so_o the_o bread_n of_o the_o holy_a communion_n be_v not_o only_a bread_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o bread_n unite_v to_o the_o divinity_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o it_o be_v apparent_a that_o when_o fire_n be_v unite_v to_o a_o coal_n that_o the_o material_a substance_n of_o wood_n remain_v at_o least_o in_o part_n the_o adversary_n in_o answer_n to_o theoderit_fw-la and_o gelasius_n pretend_v that_o these_o father_n by_o the_o word_n substance_n nature_n and_o kind_a understand_v only_o the_o natural_a quality_n and_o accident_n which_o flow_v from_o the_o nature_n and_o essence_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o he_o yield_v a_o reason_n say_v that_o in_o ordinary_a speech_n the_o natural_a property_n and_o quality_n of_o thing_n be_v term_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o thing_n etc._n etc._n but_o this_o answer_n be_v insufficient_a because_o it_o may_v perhaps_o salve_v the_o objection_n ground_v upon_o the_o word_n nature_n but_o the_o father_n affirm_v also_o that_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n remain_v in_o their_o essence_n substance_n and_o kind_a and_o they_o add_v far_o that_o they_o may_v be_v sensible_o taste_v and_o feel_v 〈◊〉_d and_o have_v force_n of_o nourish_v the_o body_n and_o that_o they_o be_v compound_v of_o many_o corn_n and_o of_o many_o grape_n 26._o which_o make_v one_o substantial_a body_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n now_o these_o thing_n can_v true_o be_v say_v of_o the_o naked_a shape_n and_o accident_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n suspend_v and_o divide_v from_o their_o material_a substance_n beside_o the_o father_n eutich_n deliver_v the_o foresay_a doctrine_n to_o prove_v the_o verity_n and_o distinction_n of_o the_o two_o substantial_a nature_n in_o christ_n by_o make_v a_o comparison_n between_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n and_o the_o two_o nature_n in_o christ_n person_n but_o if_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n cease_v and_o be_v change_v into_o the_o very_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n than_o the_o former_a comparison_n will_v rather_o confirm_v the_o false_a belief_n of_o the_o heretic_n than_o maintain_v the_o orthodoxal_a faith_n of_o christ_n humanity_n remain_v even_o after_o his_o ascension_n for_o the_o heretic_n may_v infer_v upon_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n two_o error_n about_o the_o humane_a nature_n of_o christ._n first_o that_o as_o in_o the_o eucharist_n there_o be_v only_o the_o outward_a 〈◊〉_d shape_n and_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o not_o the_o real_a substance_n even_o so_o in_o christ_n there_o be_v the_o shape_n and_o form_n of_o flesh_n but_o not_o the_o very_a nature_n second_o even_o as_o in_o the_o eucharist_n the_o essential_a form_n and_o material_a substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v swallow_v up_o and_o convert_v into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n so_o likewise_o after_o christ_n ascension_n the_o humane_a nature_n be_v absorb_v and_o convert_v into_o the_o deity_n jesuit_fw-la jesuit_o 4._o the_o seem_a repugnancy_n this_o mystery_n have_v with_o sense_n shall_v incline_v christian_n the_o soon_o to_o believe_v it_o the_o former_a proof_n of_o transubstantiation_n may_v satisfy_v be_v this_o mystery_n easy_a and_o not_o accompany_v with_o many_o seem_a absurdity_n and_o repugnance_n against_o sense_n 〈◊〉_d these_o four_o first_o that_o a_o body_n as_o big_a as_o our_o saviour_n remain_v still_o true_o corpulent_a in_o itself_o shall_v be_v contain_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o a_o round_a host_n scarce_o a_o inch_n long_a and_o broad_a second_o that_o a_o body_n so_o glorious_a shall_v be_v combine_v unto_o corruptible_a element_n and_o so_o make_v subject_a unto_o the_o indignity_n and_o obscenity_n that_o may_v befall_v unto_o they_o three_o that_o the_o same_o body_n may_v be_v in_o heaven_n and_o on_o earth_n in_o innumerable_a place_n at_o once_o four_o that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n be_v convert_v into_o christ_n body_n the_o sole_a accident_n remain_v by_o themselves_o perform_v the_o whole_a office_n of_o substance_n no_o less_o than_o if_o it_o be_v present_a even_o to_o the_o nutrition_n of_o man_n body_n these_o difficulty_n so_o scandalize_v protestant_n that_o some_o condemn_v transubstantiation_n as_o impossible_a yea_o as_o absurd_a ridiculous_a barbarous_a other_o profess_v they_o can_v subdue_v 3._o their_o understand_n to_o believe_v it_o as_o a_o 〈◊〉_d of_o faith_n to_o give_v full_a satisfaction_n in_o this_o point_n i_o set_v down_o this_o proposition_n that_o these_o seem_a absurdity_n shall_v not_o avert_v but_o rather_o incline_v a_o true_a christian_a mind_n to_o believe_v this_o mystery_n in_o proof_n whereof_o i_o present_v unto_o your_o majesty_n these_o three_o consideration_n answer_n we_o measure_v not_o supernatural_a doctrine_n by_o humane_a sense_n or_o reason_n neither_o can_v any_o seem_a repugnance_n of_o repute_a philosophy_n to_o divine_a revelation_n hinder_v our_o faith_n where_o the_o holy_a ghost_n command_v we_o to_o believe_v 17._o as_o appear_v in_o the_o article_n of_o the_o sacred_a trinity_n incarnation_n resurrection_n etc._n etc._n est_fw-la quidem_fw-la de_fw-fr communibus_fw-la sensibus_fw-la sapere_fw-la in_o dei_fw-la rebus_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o testimonium_fw-la very_fw-la non_fw-la in_o adiutorium_fw-la falsi_fw-la quod_fw-la sit_fw-la secundum_fw-la divinam_fw-la non_fw-la contrà_fw-la divinam_fw-la dispositionem_fw-la say_v tertullian_n 18._o we_o must_v have_v understanding_n in_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n out_o of_o common_a sense_n but_o this_o must_v serve_v to_o testify_v truth_n and_o not_o to_o patronise_v error_n according_a to_o divine_a disposition_n revelation_n not_o against_o it_o so_o far_o as_o sense_n and_o reason_n be_v not_o repugnant_a to_o divine_a verity_n but_o subseruient_fw-fr we_o may_v give_v credit_n to_o they_o and_o every_o good_a christian_n say_v s._n augustine_n ubicunque_fw-la invenerit_fw-la veritatem_fw-la domini_fw-la svi_fw-la intelligat_fw-la esse_fw-la wheresoever_o he_o find_v verity_n teach_v either_o by_o nature_n or_o grace_n must_v understand_v that_o it_o be_v his_o master_n the_o question_n between_o the_o romist_n and_o we_o be_v not_o whether_o if_o transubstantiation_n be_v reveal_v by_o god_n we_o may_v notwithstanding_o therefore_o refuse_v to_o believe_v it_o because_o the_o matter_n be_v difficile_a to_o be_v conceive_v or_o because_o it_o have_v many_o seem_a repugnance_n to_o sense_n for_o if_o they_o be_v able_a to_o demonstrate_v the_o first_o we_o must_v renounce_v the_o latter_a but_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o transubstantiation_n have_v no_o certain_a and_o manifest_a ground_n in_o divine_a revelation_n and_o many_o repugnance_n to_o common_a sense_n and_o reason_n and_o beside_o be_v express_o repugnant_a to_o the_o letter_n of_o the_o scripture_n we_o be_v to_o believe_v the_o same_o first_o the_o holy_a scripture_n call_v consecrate_v wine_n the_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n and_o consecrate_a bread_n by_o the_o name_n of_o very_a bread_n
as_o it_o be_v institute_v and_o if_o this_o than_o it_o may_v be_v use_v in_o wine_n only_o without_o bread_n or_o in_o broth_n or_o in_o flesh_n for_o we_o have_v no_o direction_n or_o rule_n for_o the_o manner_n of_o great_a authority_n than_o the_o institution_n last_o divine_a institution_n do_v not_o only_o signify_v a_o action_n of_o god_n whereby_o he_o give_v be_v unto_o thing_n with_o reference_n to_o their_o end_n in_o which_o manner_n the_o jesuit_n sinister_o define_v it_o etc._n but_o it_o signify_v also_o a_o decree_n rule_n precept_n and_o information_n concern_v the_o use_n and_o practice_v of_o that_o which_o god_n have_v ordain_v now_o our_o saviour_n when_o he_o ordain_v the_o holy_a eucharist_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o be_v and_o entity_n thereof_o he_o withal_o conjoin_v the_o use_n of_o the_o same_o as_o a_o necessary_a condition_n to_o make_v it_o operative_a and_o effectual_a to_o his_o people_n for_o even_o as_o in_o baptism_n although_o the_o word_n and_o 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man_n for_o the_o other_o member_n which_o he_o have_v as_o head_n breast_n back_o etc._n etc._n be_v not_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o humane_a nature_n in_o my_o reply_n i_o need_v add_v no_o more_o but_o smile_n and_o yet_o to_o answer_v his_o particular_n first_o in_o every_o sacrament_n there_o be_v require_v not_o only_o a_o sensible_a action_n but_o also_o a_o visible_a and_o material_a sign_n f._n and_o therefore_o to_o speak_v by_o the_o way_n some_o of_o the_o seven_o which_o romist_n number_n in_o their_o list_n or_o calendar_n be_v no_o sacrament_n but_o in_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n there_o be_v a_o double_a visible_a element_n and_o material_a visible_a sign_n 63._o to_o wit_n bread_n and_o wine_n math._n 26.26_o 27._o luc._n 22._o 19_o 20._o 1._o cor._n 11.23.25_o and_o these_o outward_a element_n be_v two_o in_o number_n and_o divide_v the_o one_o from_o the_o other_o be_v distinct_o and_o several_o distribute_v by_o our_o saviour_n and_o be_v receive_v by_o the_o 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