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A85050	Vindiciæ mediorum & mediatoris. or, the present reigning errour arraigned, at the barr of Scripture and reason. Wherein is discovered the falshood and danger of that late borne opinion, that pretends to an immediate enjoyment and call of the Spirit of God, both above and against its owne fffects, [sic] cause, word, ministry, and witness, in all respects. Occasioned by a pamphlet, intituled, The saints travell to the land of Canaan, or a discovery of seventeen false rests, &c. By one R. Wilkinson, a preacher of this errour about Totnes in the West. In the treatise following, the reader shall finde, most of the maine fundamentall doctrinall truths that this age doth controvert, faithfully vindicated, cleared, confirmed. By F. Fullwood, minister of the Gospell at Staple Fitzpane in the county of Somerset.	Fullwood, Francis, d. 1693.	1651 (1651)	Wing F2521; Thomason E1281_1; ESTC R202060	131,348	337

let a man of reason judge 3. Things especially do make this difficulty more difficult this impossibility more impossible then the rest The First respects the nature of God himself and is its transcendent purity In comparison whereof all other spirits are to be imagined even as Bodies The second proceeds from this and is the distance there is betwixt our capacity and nature and this infinite purity and the last is from the unconceivable subtilty of Satan changing himself into an Angell of light who in his very ministers would deceive if possible the very Elect and whose Ministers themselves as our Saviour warneth cannot be discovered but by their fruits And let us be assured that if the good spirit will perswade us of the truth of it self without tryal much more wil the evil Truth seeks no Corners but the deceiver the Prince of the powers of darknesse he hates the light because his deeds are evill and dare not come to tryall Obj. Though naturall men have no better no other faculty of discerning then the eye of Sense and reason yet we hope that the beleever hath an eye of Faith wherewith he is able to see far above and beyond the gift and ability both of sense reason Answ And therefore he assuredly partakes of such Joyes as neither eye hath seen ear hath heard as never entred into the heart of a naturall Man to conceive of I answer that Faith is not another power and faculty of knowing distinct from reason It is but a higher and more noble act and excercise of reason being seated in and acted by the reasonable soul * Altior cognitio de Deo in hoc vita habetur per gratiam quam per naturalem rationem Ut lumen naturale intellectus confortatur per infusionem luminis gratuiti Par. 1. Aquin sum quis 13. art 13. There is indeed a higher knowledge of God in this life had by Grace far above what is attained by naturall reason yet this is not without but by the heightning and improving of naturall reason Grace not destoying but perfecting nature is Grace or the spirit the light yet certainly reason is the eye of Faith it I mean reason being lightned by the spirit and it only doth discover the ground and receiveth and giveth us the incouragements of Faith By Faith the understanding is alwaies Tides cognitio quaedam est in quantum intellectus determinatur per sidem ad aliquod cognoscibile Ibid. determinated to that that is knowable And what ever we beleeve is known and the cause why we beleeve it is also known by the understanding a reasonable Creature as man is as he cannot beleeve he knoweth not what So will he never beleeve and know not why I will have some ground if it may not be called a reason why I beleeve any thing Though the matter of Faith is not understandable to carnall reason unsanctified nature yet reason inlightned nature changed or according to the Gospell that sound minde renewed spirit is fully satisfied with and seeth reason enough to beleeve even in the will and power of God and such as wil not beleeve they err they are guilty of this errour in their understandings not knowing the scriptures and the power of God Both which to wit the truth of God having said and the power of God to do laying a Foundation sufficient for a man most wedded to reason to beleeve upon And whatsoever we know by Faith whether it be spirits or God himself we know by reason yea in our very knowledge of Faith reason is and wholly is execised Faith brings a higher but yet a regular knowledge Faith giveth a cleerer and fuller knowledge of God yet it s still by Intellectus noster per gratiam fidei Deo adhaeret Ibid. mending and widening the cundit pipe Reason not by forsaking or overflowing it For our understandings themselves adhere and cleave to God by the Grace of Faith Obj. 2 But by the comming of the spirit we are spiritualized and as the scripture calleth us we are spirituall men This principle of the spirit is far above sense or reason This anointing can teach us the knowledge of spirits a more excellent way then by the use of our reason about their effects Can it not thinke yee Answ I answer it doth not the presence of the spirit doth not by any means darken or eclipse the light of reason that finger of God is not to put out but snuff this candle of the Lord in man Or rather the understanding of a man or the reasonable faculty of a man is the very Candle that receives holds out the light of the spirit and the eye or Organ that useth it and seeth with it It is the office of the spirit at his comming as the Sun to bring us light wherein we may see and so shew Objects to us even the things of Christ to see but we see them with our own eyes Therfore it giveth us to know it is not said that it knoweth in us but it giveth us to know the things that are freely given us of God And as we see the Sun in by through its own light yet with our eyes Videlicet of sense so we see the spirit only in its own light yet without our eyes to wit of reason The spirit is so far from hurting or shutting up the eyes of our reason that they do not only agree and shine together but the spirit in his name ab effectu is called 2 Tim. 1. 7. not only the spirit of Wisdome but of a sound mind whose Office is answerable he being sent to open the eyes of the blind the spirit of wisdome revelation being given Ephes 1. 17 18. through the knowledge of Christ on purpose to open the eyes of our understandings and that to this very end now in controversy that we might know what is the hope of his calling and what the riches of his glorious inheritance in the Saints But we may further demonstrate the Third way of arguing same by the arguments followings Which are taken from a state of perfection to a state of imperfection And thus first from the perfection behinde us and afterwards from the perfection before us Man in the state of innocency and perfect recovery now if it appeare that man in neither of these two conditions wherein he hath the most perfect injoyment of the spirit did or shall attain to the discerning and knowledge of spirits immediately i. without the use and help of their Effects I think we may safely conclude that the imperfect condition of this life that now is while we injoy but a small nothing of the spirit in comparison here shall not 1. But in the first place there is not any thing more certain then that the soul of man in its state of innocency did not see spirits per Essentiam but per effectum which I shall breifly open First With respect to God

whether Christ be in them is by a self-searching examination not by a waiting for the immediate invisible shining of the Spirit for its own discovery and evidence Arg. 3 A reflecting upon and reasoning from Grace for Evidence of our true enjoyment of God is but a judgeing of Gods presence by his working what absurdity or but a knowing of the Cause by the Effect and is this a strange thing I would fain know what hinders but that the Spirit may give us to see himself in his own work when as we behold the Creation and Providence of God this is that that may be known of God So the new Creation and Government within us is that that may be known of the Spirit Arg. 4 Since God is too wise a Work-man to make more work then needs why may not he make use of the Reason of man so easie and open and ready a way in this particular Case of Evidence as well as in those particulars following wherein I shall argue The Holy Ghost doth exercise the reason of man to evidence to him this state of Nature then why may he not by the same faculty Evidence to man his state of Grace These are in themselves proper contraries and both equally Relative unto man the one the depravation the other the recovery and reparation of his Nature yet we finde the first foot-steps of God for the Evidence of sinne in our first Parents trod in such a path God comes towards them to finde out and convince them of their sinne and Rebellion in eating c. How By a reasonable expostulation And hath the Spirit of Christ any other way then this according to the Gospell The Truth is my witnesse the Spirit at his comming this glorious dispensation of the Spirit shall convince the World of sinne John 16. 8. the Spirit may discover sinne long enough and I never see it unlesse it be with the eye of Reason and shew me Grace long enough and I never be comforted unlesse I see it with the same eye He shewes us the things of Christ but must not we see them too John 16. 14. else how shall we glorifie him God may accuse but he cannot convince us of sin without the enlightning of our own Reason and therefore that his ancient People might be convinced of their sinne and that he did not accuse them without a cause Come now let us reason together saith the Lord Isa 1. 18. Therefore to conclude as the Reprobate shall not be cast into Hell untill they be fully convinced of their sin by most cleare and invincible Evidence having all their Objections answered their mouths quite stopped when they have read their Debts in the Book that are in their own judgement sufficient to cast them into the Eternall Dungeon Matth. 25. 45. c. So if any of the Saints want the knowledge of the ground of Assurance while they are in the World they shall it seems with their reason enlightned by Christ at that day know it before they enter into his Kingdome Matth. 25. 37. to 40. The Holy Ghost maketh use of the reason of Man for his Conversion then why not also for his Consolation Is it not the same Object that doth convert Man to and comfort him in God On the one hand Hell and on the other hand Heaven and is it not the same Light that doth discover the same Object though for these divers Ends doth it not then require the same Organ the same Faculty Reason enlightned is the eye whereby we apprehend the terrour of Hell Law Justice c. with the glory of Heaven Grace and Happinesse and are changed in our thoughts and wayes and surely also whereby we apprehend the same Objects and our selves as freed from the one kind and interessed in the other and are ravished with joy unspeakable and glorious God is the Primum movens and he must first move our Primum mobile before the inferiour Orbes will turn towards him the will having its immediate Light and Evidence not from the Spirit of God but the mind the Candle of the Lord if the understanding be darkned it walks in darkness and seeth no light the heart is blinded but if this Candle be inlightned by the Spirit of God it is subservient not onely to the will but consequently to the whole Man in its turning from Sin and Nature to God and Grace Now the same light that doth convert the minde by Reflection doth comfort and refresh the heart The Holy Ghost doth work by our reason in the Creation of Faith then why not also for Hope and Assurance God hath provided a Saviour for Sinners the way of their Salvatian by him is beleiving in him Now that God might work up the Souls of sinners to beleive and be saved he hath ordained a Ministery hath put into its hand a word of Reconciliation to shew them the necessity and worth of a Saviour by convincing them of Sin and Righteousnesse offering them a Saviour and Life and Heaven with him will they but beleive beseeching in Christs stead that through him they would be reconciled to God and saved and all this is that he might not force but win Men to the Faith that Faith might come by Reason and in the day of Gods Power his Psal 110. People might be a willing People as we will not beleive so we cannot be assured but by Reason they are both Acts of the same Faith And now what should priviledge the reflex Act of Faith more then its direct from being beholding to Reason I know not The Scriptures say He that believeth shall be saved my reason being inlightned inabled to see the truth and stableness of the Proposition is effectually perswaded to close with this offer and to beleive But now I beleive cannot the same faculty of reason inlightned and assisted by the same Spirit reflect Consolation herefrom He that beleives shall be saved but I believe therefore I am sure I shall be saved this is the Joy of my Salvation What hinders but that the same reason that upon the perswasion of the truth of the Gospell caused me to beleive may upon the assurance of the truth of my Faith together with the veiw of the Glory of Salvation cause me to rejoyce because I did not doubt But he that beleiveth shall be saved therefore I beleived so for that I am assured I beleive I am assured of salvation and therefore am at rest What more neede of the immediate shining of the Spirit in us for Faith of Evidence then for Faith of Adherence as I reason about misery for the work of the first so I reason about happiness for the Act of the second that is the greatest difference Yea insomuch as we having assurance in Adam and not Faith Faith is the more difficult work Secondly insomuch as it being more difficult to attain to any habit then to Act from that habite when attained to act Faith of Evidence is far

lie we might have strong Consolation Heb. 6. 17. 18. 2. Experience strongly proves the end of the promise to be such as we speak of In that they have so constantly been throughout all generations effectuall good means of rest comfort satisfaction or ease in their application we may safely conclude these and such like to be the ends thereof Nothing being an able and effectuall means in any of the works of God but such as are appointed and consecrate thereto by God himself And the end of Execution ever discovering reveiling the end of intention in God who worketh all things according to the councell Eph. 1. 11. of his own will Yea certaine it is this way of a promise is a means of a morall and eternall efficacy to gvie hope rest satisfaction and the like This way is regular to the Law of right reason not being only the way of men but God also And may we not use the promises now for the intents and purposes for which both reason and Scripture nature and God hath appointed them hath God sent us glad tidings of great joy in a promise and shall we not must we not beleeve the Gospell and rejoyce therein God hath made us pertakers of a better covenant and must we not take comfort therefrom because it is established upon better promises Heb. 8. 6. Gospell Christians are the Heires of the promises they inherit the promises and shall not the Heire rejoyce and be glad with his rich Inheritance sit under his Vine and his Fig-tree singing Praises Yea the spirit our comforter himself is Eph. 1. 13 the spirit of promise Ephes 1. 13. Wherein after ye beleeved ye were sealed with the spirit of promise we are invited perswaded to beleeve by a promise as so in the form thereof when we believe we are Heires of the promise that is of the mattter thereof then we not able to apply our Priviledges in promise of our selves for our comfort we are sealed with the spirit of promise that seeing our riches by our right to the promise we might rejoyce with joy unspeakable and glorious in beleeving 4. And lastly Why may not the promises be the ordained means of comfort as well as the meanes of Faith and Holinesse 1. Promises in their tender and offer are the only ordinary Gospell way and meanes of incouraging and gaining sinners to beleeve The Law in a sense may be said to lead or rather to drive a Soul to Christ but the Gospell only i the tender of Christ in a promise doth prevaile upon the Soule to lay hold on him The tenour of the Gospell being in a word but this he that beleeveth shall be saved The promise of salvation herein upon this condition of faith set home upon the Soule by the spirit of Christ doth but reasonably perswaded it to beleeve for Salvation And why not likewise to rejoyce in the evidence of faith applying the promise yea a Soule groaning under the weight and burden of sin must needs have some refreshment from the very apprehension much more application of the kindenesse of Christ so sweetly expressed in the inviting promise Come unto me all Mat. 11. 28. ye that are weary and heavy laden and I will ease you That there is such a pomise that gives any hopes of ease and rest it giveth surely some ease and comfort to a truly weary and heavy laden Soul as it incourageth to come for it But furthermore is not a promise more naturall and proper to comfort being applied then to perswade to beleeve being apprehended For I may know of a certain that the promise of salvation belongeth to me after I have Faith but not before So must needs have more incouragement for application of the promise for comfort When I do beleeve before then by a generall proposition to venter my selfe for Faith Yet as we have found a tender of promise by the blessing of haven is the only effectuall means of Faith Secondly of holinesse Seeing we have 2 Cor. 7. 1 those promises let us cleanse our selves now is there not Wine to comfort as well as water to cleanse in the Fountaine of the Promises To us are given exceeding great and precious promises that by these we might be 2 Pet. 1. 5. made Pertakers of the divine nature And are the promises given for this end only and not much rather that by them we might be pertakers of Divine comfort strong consolation I might but I forbeare to digresse to shew how these promises serve to sanctifie and cleanse us yet thus much will cleare and strengthen the argument Promises are meanes of holiness only accidentally indirectly But of comfort directly and naturally They are the breasts of consolation though wanton and untowardly wicked Children may vex deface and spit upon them Yet let our Father incourage inable us still to hugg and kisse them to stroke them with the hand and suck them with the mouths of our Faith thence to draw sweet milk to comfort and strengthen us against all temptations and trialls And shrew be to all such as offer them despite or injuriously indeavour to pluck them out of our mouths For the word of God notwithstanding what ever is said against it is still 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 profitable to us both in its proposition Precept and Promise For Instruction Obedience and Consolation CHAP. XIII Of the Gospell Communion of Saints or Church fellowship WE now are fallen into a considerately capacity of attoneing and mediating for the poor despised ministry with the Spirit of the Gospell But we shall here undertake on its behalf in two respects only viz. In its way and manner and in its matter its ordinances Leaving the condition of its contemned forforsaken and condemned Officers as too too desperate and even past recovery by my inexpert and impotent hand First Then this errour indeavoreth to Errour subvert the way of Church-fellowship condemning this as the very worst and most false of all the rest Now Reason This is abundantly reprooved by the marvellous experience of the fained disturber of the false rests for he was In the ninth false rest never under more grosse darknesse more Laodicean lukewarmnesse he was never more spiritually proud more carnall more censorious c. Then when under this dispensation Viz. a member of a visible church in Church fellowship Answ And is this all as indeed it is all that you can say against this good way of Church-fellowship Viz. the corrupt abuse that your own and others hearts doe make thereof But how strangely argued may it not be yet the way of God though man abuse it is it not possible for our unwashen hands to pollute and defile the holy things of God was not the holy Childe Jesus innocency it self disgraced and spit upon scourg'd and crucified and the Servant is not greater then his Master nor the things ordained then the Ordainer himselfe Moreover we might bring many thousand experiences

Word and Gospel is the power of God unto salvation spirit and life and directly the means of sanctification so called and acknowledged by truth it self John 17. 17. Sanctifie us through thy truth thy Word is truth But Then if the spirit be indifferent with respect to the Word and other means which is your most pleasing and acceptable sense how fals it out that the Church of God is onely found where the Gospel dwels What reason can be given why God hath not an equal number and share of Professors among the Indians Is the spirit free yet surely it doth prize value and countenance that air to live and breathe in much more that is fill'd not to say blessed and purified with the sound of the Gospel A general darkness we see covereth the People where the Oracles of God give no advantage while the Land of Goshen is full of light But we have here most room and occasion to take notice and clear that Text on which indeed hang both the Law and the Prophets of Anti-scripturisme Obj. Some men do acknowledge the Scriptures are used to teach us our Rudiments and beginnings of the knowledge of Christ but this Milk is for Babes and strong men must have stronger meat when they have received the spirit once they put away these childish things to live above the Scriptures and harden themselves in such a practice as this upon that notable Scripture 2 Pet. 1. 19. We have also a more sure word of Prophesie to the which ye do well that ye take heed as unto a Light that shineth in a dark place untill the day dawn c. Hence say they we did take heed to Scriptures while we were ignorant untill we received the spirit but now what need have we thereof this place of Scripture it self inviting us to take no more heed thereto Answ This Text beareth to many weak sighted and prejudiced Christians a very fair gloss for the thing pretended But could we but stay a little upon it and take its genuine sense along with us we should certainly understand and know it to be otherwise There are two gross mistakes committed in this same fallacious construction of the words this way The first may be occasioned by the pointing of the words Let us leave out the Comma at the word Place read the words thus We have a sure word of Prophesie whereunto ye do well that ye take heed so far we both agree but these men would construe next untill the day dawn c. but upon what account let us reade construe and understand them as they lie in the Verse Whereunto ye do well that ye take heed as unto a light that shineth in a dark place untill the day dawn c. Which words are not to limit the time how long but to describe the manner how we ought to take heed It is not we must take heed unto this Prophesie till the day dawn but to it as a light that shineth in the dark till the day dawn The second and more dangerous misconstruction and mistake is of the sense of the very termes themselves they reade the words as a Collation between the whole Book of Scripture and the coming of the spirit and indeed it is onely of the Law and the Prophets and the coming of Christ as the Context doth most clearly manifest The Prophesie of old shining in those Dayes that were dark till the Day not properly of the spirit but of Christ did dawn i. till the Gospel for Christ is called a Sun the Light of the Gentiles at whose coming into the World The day spring from on Luke 1. ult high did visit us And the Times and Dispensation of the Gospel the Day and the Children of the Gospel Children of the Light and of the Day God 1 Thess 5. 8. Ephes 5. 8. that commanded Light out of Darkness shining thence in our hearts to give us the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 2 Cor. 4. 6. Therfore this is the sum of the Apostles sense in that place he having given them a glimpse of the Vision wherewith he was blessed with Christ on the Mount in vers 16 17 18. He seemeth in vers 19. somewhat fearfull least he should by this means have stirred up a hankering in their mindes after such Visions to the weakening of their heed and respect to the Writing of the Prophets and therefore thus addes We have a more sure word of Prophesie More sure i not more true in it self but as to you which you have means of more assurance of having been a long time received for the Word of God c. whereunto ye do well that ye take heed and not to slacken your faith or heed thereunto any thing said by me of my Vision notwithstanding but least they should err on the other hand and prize the Law and the Prophets above the Light of the glorious Gospel he addeth further whereunto ye do well that ye take heed but you must heed it no otherwise but as a Light that shineth in a dark place before the day or untill the day dawn the Dayes of the Gospel being Dayes of greater Light then the Dayes of the Prophets yet not to undervalue these Prophesies neither we must know this first No Prophesie Vers 20. in the Scripture is of any private Interpretation though we must look upon them as shining in a dark place untill the day dawn yet must we bear respect and heed thereto as unto the Word of God also For the Prophesie came not in old time by the will of man but holy Vers 21. men of God spake as they were moved by the holy Ghost And now what advantage have any from hence for the Deniall of the Gospel or to make the Word of God of none effect for our teaching CHAP. XI Of the Scripture as profitable in its commands for obedience THis Error would strike at the very Majesty of God and his divine Authority in the holy Scriptures and therefore sticks not to deny the Commands thereof they being not by any to be heard or hearkened to as the voice of God And this I conceive upon a double respect as they look to the wicked and unregenerate world or relate to the godly and spiritual Church and upon this dilemma because the commands of Scripture cannot come in upon us at this or that door they must be shut out Reas 1 With respect to men unregenerate they imply the command is vain such having no power to obey it and God cannot inforce or intend it to them who doth nothing in vain Reas 2 And with relation to men regenerate the command is needless also they having the spirit the Law within them written in their hearts there is left no need no use of the letter or the Law without As the natural man receiveth no help so the man that is spiritual hath neither helpe nor need of

our Soules c. Though we walk through the valley of the shadow of death let us fear no evill concluding thence with the Psalmist that surely goodnesse and mercy Psal 21 shall follow us all our daies and we shall dwell in the house of the Lord for ever 4. And to conclude what is reckoned by God as a more hainous aggravation of the sin of unbleife or mistrust of providence then this means and help of experience for which to passe by many let us fix our serious eye and thought upon that notable Testimony recorded by David against the People of Israell with whom because they beleeved not in God nor trusted in his salvation though he had commanded the Clouds from Heaven above and given them of the Corn of heaven c. Therfore Psa 78. 21 22. 23. 24. the Lord was wroth and a fire was kindled against Jacob and anger also came up against Israell Which is aptly appliable to us in the daies of the Gospell For if we sleight the Experiences of mercy and deliverance hardning our hearts after Heb. 3. 4. Ca. this sinfull similitude according to the judgment of the Author to the Hebrews we shall also fall after the same example of unbeleife chap. 4. 11. CHAP. XVIII Of the spirit of Christ as the Soules immediate Rest and Evidence WE have at length dispatched this Errour on the absolute consideration of it Wherin as you have if very busy to oppose the spirit to its effects cause word Ministry and witnesse so you have us as carefull to make and keep an answerable Peace and Concord betwixt them We are now ascended to the Bench that having called this exorbitant spirit to its last triall we might answerably passe a sinall judgment and sentence upon it But as before we have found it erroneous and and guilty in an absolute capacity so the triall of it here is as it is respective unto its speciall end as a Rest and Evidence The end and conclusion of this Way and Errour is that since all the fore-handled The Errour particulers are but false and unwarrantable means and helps c. The spirit immediate and as alone is the only all-sufficient means to the Soul for all ends and purposes whatsoever but especially fort its Rest and Evidence The specialty subjoyned as being neerer to the shadow of scripture and reason and more dearly imbraced commended by my Antagonists then any and all other of the uses of their spirit I shall cheifely and only question here viz. Whether the spirit be alone and immediately the only all-sufficient evidence of it self or Gods favour to us Though the vanity hereof hath been discovered all along while the right way of means hath been cleered and confirmed in every particuler of it yet my present undertaking shall more directly demonstrate the same and condemn it first even out of the mouth of that very Medium and argument as Umpire betwixt us that this way it self hath chosen and every False rest Pag. 90. 30. and many other places where appealed to against us viz. that is not to be rested upon as an infallible Evidence that may be either true or false Which Medium we grant could the false and erroneous assumption viz. that the truth of our Evidence is not knowable have been made good would have undeniably concluded against us that the best of our Evidence is but fallible and in their sense a false Rest. But as we have fully vindicated the truth of our against the spite and power of this by them abused argument so we shall by the light of the same reflected upon them plainly manifest the fallibility and weakness of this their Evidence The Argument may be thus framed That which for ought we can possibly 1. Argument against the spirits immediate witnesse gather may be true or false cannot be an infallible and undoubted Evidence But the spirit as alone and without the use of any means and considered abstractedly from its effects for ought we can possibly know may be true or false Therefore the spirit as alone without use of any means c. Cannot be infallible and undoubted Evidence There is nothing here questionable but the second proposition viz. that the spirit as alone without use of any means abstracted from all its effects may for ought we can possibly know be true or false which is also cleer from scripture and reason according to scripture 1. First These direct and most visible inferences from 1. John 4. 1. c. Might wholy satisfie as 1. There are false as wel as true spirits 2. The false as well as the as good and true spirit hath access to knock at the hearts of Saints 3. The Saints may be apt to beleeve both the false as well as the true spirit 4. The Saints are forbidden to beleeve every spirit 5. The Saints and such as have the spirit of God cannot discern spirit from spirit but by Triall 6. Therefore it is not commended only but commanded as we see even upon such to try the spirits Beloved beleeve not every spirit but try the spirits whether they be of God for there are many false Prophets gone out into the World The Gleaning after the full Harvest we formerly have reaped from this Text may be gathered thus Our Hearts lying open to the various suggestions both of the good and evill spirit the great question is how we shall know which is the good and which is the evill that we put not evill for good and good for evill how we should discern which is the comming of the spirit of God to make it to us an infallible Evidence Moreover my great Antagonist himself acknowledging that indeed there is no form though never so glorious but Satan will transform himself into it there is no working of the spirit 〈◊〉 God Pag. 127. within man but he will resemble it So that none shall be able to know whether it be true or false untill Christ come in c. how then shall we know in the light of Christ this we grant But how doth Christ enlighten immediately without the use of meanes then I should demand why should not Christ evidence the truth of his word as well as the truth of his spirit immediately to us 2. Again why doth not the spirit while it evidenceth it self discover also every false and erroneous spirit immediately to us as he saith the true rest sheweth us the vanity of every false Pag. 34. lin 18. 3. And then why doth the spirit command us here not to beleeve every spirit much more what need of triall of the spirits or any marks or outward rules Ver. 1. 2. 3. 6. whereby we might know the spirit of truth and the spirit of Errour The Text is thus far most cleer to all that the spirit that dictates to or dweleth in us may be true or false for ought we know until we try and examine it by outward

means Is it answered that thus it is knowable so is the work thereof in our hearts are they not known to be true or false but by the light of the spirit through our examining no more is the spirit himself Which it acknowledged to be knowable to us in the use of means by his own light we are agreed But this you may not allow that deny and oppose by the same pretended spirit all means of tryall your errour and misery 2. Secondly And doth not right reason also set to its Seal that this is true for thus I argue 1. Where the truth of the effect can-cannot be discerned without light from the cause how shal the truth of the cause be discerned without help from the effect now as to the case in hand it is received by all hands that the truth of the effect to wit Grace cannot be known but by the light of the cause viz. the spirit And the consequence is cleer from this common truth the effect is more knowable then the cause The reason thereof is for that the effect is more obvious to sense then the cause and things are conveyed by sense into the understanding for look how much the more any thing hath de ratione objecti viz. of sense it is so much the more easily discerned again that that is farther off from our knowledg is usually argued by that that is neerer and more known to us as we usually gain acquaintance with strangers by the means of our knowledge and acquaintance before Now according to these rules since the effects of the spirit are neerer to our knowledge then the spirit it self and yet we are not able to discern the true effects of the spirit without the spirits assistance how can we then be possibly at least probably able to make the truth of the spirit indubitable to us without regard to its Effects without use of means Secondly It seems to appeare that the The second way of arguing spirit as alone without the use of any means and considered abstractedly from its effects cannot be known to be true or false from the consideration of the nature of spirits in generall Spirits are knowable to men in their Essence residence and quality With respect indeed to the first of these we may know them both that they are and what they are as by way of Negation so by way of eminence but with respect to their place of residence and qualities where they are and what ones they are whether true or false good or bad we can know them only by way of causality or by their operations symptomes effects c. Secondly for in order hereunto we can only judg of them by sense or reason the only principles competent to man of knowledge and discerning Now therefore let us examine whether spirits either in their where or kind are to be known by sense or reason immediately without some signe effect or other 2. For there where or place of abode this certainly cannot be discerned immediately by sense Spirits being no sensible Objects imagine what kinde of spirit you will whether it be Angelicall rationall animall much more divine and though things of a grosser substance viz. Bodies may yet the spirit cannot Propter ejus excessum or by reason of its excelling purity be thus discovered We may take up a little of the knowledg of spirits for our present purpose from the purest of Bodies viz. Fire though Fire as corrupted may and is yet fire in its Element cannot be seen and as some affirm nor felt c. Therefore our daily experience sheweth us that the fire with us so soon as ever it hath conquered and overcome its matter gotten out of the cage the flame that thickned it it is immediatly invisible if not insensible and though it passeth upward towards its center and Element before our eyes yet who can perceive it now spirits the grossest of spirits are superiour to fire not only in degree but kinde also and that that elevateth the purest fire to exceed our senses viz. its purity is far more eminently contained in spirits and is the very thing that gives spirits their name and the very name that puts a distinction betwixt them and bodies the purest of Bodies fire it self It is a thing most apparant to experience that we cannot know whence any spirit is immediately by sense for wherein can they be sensible They have no colour therefore invisible They are not Bodies therefore not audible They have no sensible qualities not cold hot dry moist c. Therefore they cannot be smelt felt or tasted Therefore we read that when Angells were sent to accompany men they still assumed bodies according to scripture Secondly now since the presence of spirits is not knowable discernable by sense there is no other way left for the knowledge thereof but by reason Angells indeed see and know intuitive but this way of knowledge doth not Competere with us men We are reasonable creatures and know and judge of things not obvious to sense by our reasons only But let us be our selves and seriously consider and how is it possible that we that are reasonable Creatures should judge of the presence of any thing not obvious to our senses without an exercise of reason about some effects signes c. 2. Moreover if we cannot discern the presence of spirits either by our sense or reason how much lesse shal we ever be able to judge aright of their nature kinde or qualities without regard to their Effects without use and help of some signe mean Companion or other thereof As for example how shall I know whether the spirit in thee be rationall or animall onely But because it acteth a humane form or figure of Body in generall Because it discovereth it self by rationall discourse more speciall Giving some signe or Effect or other what spirit it is Further how shall I know whether the spirit in any be weak simple or of ripe understanding but by some outward operations and fruits thereof How do we try a mans Person whether good or bad but by his Actions The Tree as our Sahath taught us being known by his fruit by their fruit ye shall know them Yea neerer yet a man may most easily mistake through self-conceit and flattery in the knowledg and Judgment of his own spirit imagining himself to be informed acted and guided by a discreet wise and upright spirit when indeed there is no such matter unlesse he be so wise as to take a true measure for his knowledge of himself by comparing himself with such rules and patterns as are fit and known for a Foole may be wise in his own conceit But to apply if it be a thing so difficult to know our own so impossible to know anothers spirit how improbable it is then that we should be able to discern betwixt the spirit of God and the spirit of Satan without the help of some Effect or sign or other

part and this his knowledge here is by reflection in a glasse darkly though he promiseth to himself to see more immediately face to face hereafter Therefore I conclude Si aliquis videns Deum intellexit quod vidit non ipsum vidit sed aliquid corumquae sunt eius Dioni in Episto 1. Adcapiam Monacham and end this Argument with that saying of Dionis If any man whoever have a sight of God and understandeth what he seeth let him know that he seeth not God himselfe but only some effect or symptome of him We might further proceed were it not too injurious to our designe of hast to discover the vanity of this delusion to wit that we may discern the truth or falshood of spirits immediately without regard to their Effects in the light of these and such like Maximes Arg. 2 for the negative Nothing can act beyond its one kind and nature Now it is infinitely beyond the nature of our reason the bounds of Nihil agit extra genus suum our intellect to discern of spirits and not by their Effects To know whether or no they be true or fals immediately i without the use of means about the Effects or signes thereof The Office and naturall work of reason as over and again we have shewed is to judg of spirits by their works and symptomes and no otherwise for men do not gather grapes of thornes or figs of thistles Secondly Phylosophers affirm that Deus ipse non potest supplere vicim causae formalis even God himselfe cannot supply the place of a formall cause i cannot make on the one side spirits to be Bodies and things intelligible to become visible nor on the other side make us to see without eyes to understand without understanding or to know but by our reason All which God must do before we can be able and yet be men to discern of spirits immediately or to know whether they be true or false good or bad without respect had unto their signes or effects But many men are deceived with their Eccle ca. 3. 24 25. own vain opinion and an evill suspition viz. Of Qualifications hath overthrown their judgments yet without eyes thou shalt want light profess not the knowledge therefore that thou hast not Obj. 3 But men of much wisdome and piety great Divines affirm that the spirit Dr. Sibs doth sometimes immediately comfort us then surely the knowledge of the truth of the spirit may be immediate also which is the ground of comfort Answ I answer and grant that some learned and pious Divines have said it yet questionless not intending in the least to lay a foundation thereby for such a rejection of Marks and the means of triall as we have in dispute and therefore they immediately Dr. Sibbs in sealing of the spirit subjoyning this question but how shall we know the perswasion of the spirit of God from a delusion they set down such rules of discerning as may help us to know the spirit of truth and the spirit of Errour intimating to us that upon the least suspition or occasions of suspition of spirits we should have ready and speedy recourse to the Tryall thereof thereby But secondly there is to be observed a considerable difference betwixt the comforts the spirit giveth us and the assurance we give or gain to our selves of the truth of the spirit is the spirits ability the measure of ours yea is it not far more difficult to work assurance out of doubting then comfort from assurance Moreover doth it follow that because the spirit can and sometimes doth comfort us immediately that therefore we must not use means for assurance for no man may imagine that we can as easily work upon the spirit for assurance as the spirit upon us for comfort 3. Yet farther for my part though I reverence the judgment of those Godly I must conclude with Scotus in another case Me magis propter autoritatatesquam propter rationes putare posse men yet I cannot well see how the spirit doth comfort us immediately either the comforts of the spirit are most sollid and consequently most rationall if rationall not immediate because then they are convaid into the heart upon reasonable grounds Now the spirit cannot supply the stead of our reason and therefore doth not give in comfort immediately The spirit cannot inlighten our hearts but by our reason though he be a light he can not be an eye or faculty to us And therefore cannot immediately comfort us If we take suggestions upon trust how shall our reason be sanctified and if our reason be not our conscience can never be satisfied and then how weak how superficiall our comfort and how unworthy to be owned by the spirit of God our comforter or to be called that Peace of God which keeps Phil. 4 our hearts and minds in Christ Jesus 4. We are apt to imagine and mistake a flash of our own spirits which may be occasioned by many unknown secret ways to be the unspeakable ravishing comforts of the spirit of God sensitive joy to be spirituall comfort but the difference is as wide as Heaven and Hell And we may be assured fully that what revishments of spirit we know no account of as they are not reasonable so not spirituall the comforts of the spirit whose office it is as comforter to shew us the things of Christ and to give us to know the things that are freely given us of God being ever built upon grounds most rationall and such as are known to us Obj. But I have heard men of parts and piety both to set forth this mediate comforting of the spirit by the comfort we have from the presence of a 20. Sibs Freind Answ To which I answer that if in this act of our comfort the spirit be taken materially and not Essentially I undestand it well as the Apostle affirms hereby we know Joh. 3. ult that he abideth in us by the spirit that he hath given us But secondly Let us consider how the presence of our Freind doth comfort us Either because he is present or because he is our Freind both how do we know he is present but by the means of seeing him and how do we know that he is our freind but because of our experience in the Effects of his freindship and comforts immediate after this manner we grant are attainable by the presence of our freind the spirit viz. By assurance of its freindship by true experience of as also of its presence by due reasoning about the Effects thereof 3. But now unless thou try for ought either I or thy self can know thy spirit may be false as well as true thy joy counterfeit as well as reall Thy spirit may be of the Devill and thy comfort no other then a flash of Hel Yea thou maist be acted by no other then thine own deceitfull and melencholly spirit and thy joy be but sparks of