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A02199 More vvorke for priests: or An answere to George Giffords pretended defence of read prayers and devised leitourgies comprised in the first part of his booke; intituled A short treatise against the Donatists of England: wherein is proved that the serving of God in such away [sic] and manner is a superstitious and vaine worship. Written by John Greenwood Christs faythfull martyr: here-unto is added by another man, many other argumers [sic] against stinted service and booke-prayer.; Answere to George Giffords pretended defence of read praiers and devised litourgies Greenwood, John, d. 1593. 1640 (1640) STC 12341; ESTC S103421 44,326 116

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professed subiects of false government no censures of admonition belonging vnto them but calling of them to repentance separation from the false Church Then as the wife that giveth her self to be one with an other man is an adulteresse Rom. 7.3 so that Church that subiecteth herself to an other government ordinances and lawes then Christs is an harlot Now lett all men say whether I had not iust cause to say you speak like a carnall libertine and an Athiest yea now as one having his conscience seated to affirme that the Church remayninge in open knowne bondage to a false government may saye as Paul said it is not I that sinne And that continuing in that adultrie she is the spouse of Christ by outward profession You would saye it were a false Argument to say the Church hath manie imperfections ignorances transgressions etc. therfore standeth in bondage to sinne nay standeth in bondage to an other heade and an other government then Christ Even so to saye the Church doth sinne therfore may contynue in bondage to sinne is false doctrine nay to say it may stand in open professed subiection to Antichrist be esteemed the Church of Christ by outward profession in that estate is damnable doctrine It is the flat contradiction of all the rules of the Scripture to say a man may stand in bondage to sinne and the free servaunt of Christ by outward profession by mans iudgement at one tyme seing the obstinate offenders are to be cast out of the assemblie But nowe though the regenerate may fall into these high sinnes and contynve in their sinne a long time yea manie yeares depriued of Gods grace to mans seeming to vs he is the servant of Satan for anie thing wee see yet the Spirit of GOD is never vtterlie extinguished or or deparred after regeneration but will recover the man againe and bring him to repentance as David after a whole yeare for the stronge man once displaced and cast out by a stronger then he the spirit never vtterly departed againe for then it were impossible that man should be renewed Mat. 12.31 Heb. 10.29 and 6.4 And herevpon I might saye Paul never contynued captive in sinne but was alwaies renewed by repentance Furder this spirit of God the sparkes wherof were never quenched vtterlie did not nor could not consent or give place vnto sinne for here is the enmitye and battel betweene the spirite and the flesh everie where spoken of Gal 5.16.17 Rom. 7. May I not now say then that Paul never contynued captive vnto sinne nor consented vnto sin concerninge the inner man or gave place vnto sinne in that place mentioned without heresie And still reprove you that when Paul reasoneth of the old man or corruption in him you will conclude it of the new man or inner man and of the whole man when you see evidently he opposeth the one against the other For whiles the spirit striveth against sinne and raigneth in vs though the fleshe rebell and cause vs to sinne seaven times a daye yet are we not overcome of sine so to remayne in bondage no sinne that it should contynue to raigne in vs as you may see in the same chapter Rom 7.5.6 Where you alleage then that Paul saw a lawe in his members which did lead him captive vnto sinne you do falsifie the text for he saith leading me captive and not did leade etc. for ther was a stronger then man that suffered not the lawe of his members to reigne for saith be I my self in my minde serve the law of God but in the flesh the law of of sinne so that the whole man could not be said to serve sinne But say you afterward as concerning then the inner man we may besaid to serve the lawe of God and thervpon be called the free servants of Christ notwithstanding this corruption of sinne in the flesh So the whole man by reason of our imperfectnes may be said to be the servants of sinne No it is not true for the whole man is called after the part that hath greater rule in vs as if the fleshe rule in us we are the servaunts of sinne and ledded by Satan at his pleasure but if the Spirit rule in vs we are the servauntes of God Sonnes of God Sainctes of God Citizens of Ierusalem a royall nation holie and free people Kinges and Priests not that we are perfect or sinne not but that sinne raygneth not in vs but the spirit wherby we suppresse sinne reprove sinne strive against sinne subdue sinne and though we fall seven times yet we rise againe by repentance and serve not sinne Rightly therfore did I saye that man cannot serve 2 masters for his servantes we are to whom we give our selves as servants to obey whether it be of sinne vnto death or of obedience vnto righteousnes Rom. 6.16.18 being made free from sinne we are made the servantes of righteousnes So that the regenerat man or he that is by outward profession the servant of Christ cannot be called the servant of sinne by reason of the corruption of the old man and dregges of sinne neyther can he that standeth in bondage to anie sinne and giveth himself over to it be called in that estate the servant of Christ till he repent but the servant of sinne 2. Pet. 2.19 Therfore you must recant your false interpretation of Paul in the 7. to the Rom. and cease your blasphemous raylings in calling the truth of God the rocke of Brownisme And consider the height of your sinne by concluding a bondage vnto sinne of the whole man for the corruptions of the fleshe which through the worke of the Spirit is daylie subdued though never vtterly rooted out of our earthlie members and from the committing sinne through frayltie and obstinate professed bondage to the false Church false government false ministerie etc. which is plainly the marck of the Beast to whom with outward obedience they bowe downe and stand servants in his kingdome Revel. 14.9.11.12 As for the 4 of the Galat. 26. where the Apostles aith Jerusalem which is abone is free with her Children you durst not open it nor expounde it but blaspheame raile and slander as though we should pleade for such a freedome as should detract from Magistrates lawfull authorities from having Gods ordinances established by commaundement vpon the Church etc yea that we should hold Anabaptisticall free dome as though we had power not to committ or consent vnto sinne wheras we have everie where by practise and protestation by word and writing testified to our Sovereigne Prince and to all men the contrary But Satan that old accuser and detracter of Gods children to deceive the world sendeth out such lyinge spirites to deface the truth We with all subiection and willinge obedience to our sovereigne Prince teach all men their obedience to the higher powers Subiectes to Magistrates Flocke to Overseers children to Parentes wives to their husbands servantes to their Masters etc. in all
Egypt should knowe the beautie of Sion ther is a cloude betweene you and us we have blessed be our God a pillar of fire before us An other fault you say in my former reason is that because the censure of the Church should redresse defaultes therfore ther needeth no liturgie Nay take all with you No fault can be censured that is not a transgression against the rules of Gods worde and those to be censured by the doctrine and admonitions of the Church therfore we neede no liturgies To the worde of God onely ought all men to be bounde by covenant and for the transgressions therof onely to be censured G. GIFFORD The Church hath this power to ordeine according to Gods worde and to appointe such orders in matters of circumstance c. as shall most fuly serve to edification And then these orders being established the Church is to drive men to the observation of them I. GREENWOOD First in this your papisticall mudde I must tell you your reading of mens writinges for prayer is a falle worship of God and not a matter of circumstance And for matters of order and circumstance which are no part of the worship ther can be no other lawes made of them then Christ hath made As for ordeyning of lawes in the Church it is to plead for unwritten verities and to make the lawe of God unsufficient neyther can it be according to the worde to make anie lawe that God hath not made but an adding to his worde which is execrable pride these your wordes then according to Gods worde was but a cloake to cover the grossenes of your position for the worde ordeyne or create lawes is to make some that are not made before let us then see your cleane sentence to be this The Church hath authority in matters of order and circumstance to make and ordaine lawes in his Church for his worship now see how you contradict these Scriptures Rev. 22.18.19 Prov. 30.5.6 everie worde of God is pure etc. put nothing to his worde least he reproove thee and thou be found a liar likewise Deut. 4.2 and 12.32 and Gal. 3.15 though it be but a mans covenant when it is confirmed no man doth abrogate it or superordeine anie thing to it And the second Commaundement forbiddeth anie such humaine tradition in the worship of God all the Popes trinckets might be brought in by the same grounde We would willingly have seene your warrant for this doctrine your bare worde is not sufficient to impose other lawes then God hath made upon his Church This is the foundation of Poperie and Anabaptistrie to give libertie to make lawes in the worship of God Yet you will goe furder that such lawes being ordeyned established by publique authoritie the discipline and censures of the Church are to drive men to the observation of the same By your judgment our Saviour Christ was an Anabaptisticall Schismatique that would not himself nor his Disciples obey and observe the traditions of the Elders And what saith he unto pleaders for traditions It is thus written Marke 7.5 then asked him the Pharises and Scribes whie walke not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders but eate meate with unwashed hands Then be answeared surely Isay hath prophesied well of you hypocrites as it is written this people honoreth me with their lippes but their heartes are far from me But they worship me in vayne teaching doctrines mens precepts For you lay the commaundement of God aside and observe the tradition of men And to helpe foorth your evill matter instead of proof from the scripture you fal out into furious exclamation against them that desire onely to have the worde practised saying who is able to imagine the innumerable divisions and offences in the practise of your anabaptisticall freedome in which you deny the Church to have power to ordeine and impose any orders lett all men judge the venemousnes of this tongue Christ pronunceth them accursed that add or superordeyne any thing to his worde and you pronounce judgement of them that onely obey his worde Shall it be said that Mr Gifford holdeth that the onely practise of Gods worde would be the cause of iunumerable divisions and offences This hath bene Satans old accusation in the mouth of the most enimies of Christs Gospell nowe it must be Mr Giffords accusation of Gods ordinances to be insufficient unperfect etc. fearfull is his Apostacy from that truth he hath knowen I take it it is more like to be Anabaptistry to practise any thing without warrant of the word to make their own devises lawes in Gods worship then to doe nothing but what God hath commaunded within the limites of our callings For the franticke ministery it came of your owne wordes that therfore you must needes have a leiturgie because ther are manie franticke spirits in the ministerie then I say it is like you have a frantick ministerie that cannot be governed without another liturgie then Christs Testament For their great giftes you speake of I will not compare with them My reason from the Colossians was that as the Church there is commaunded to admonish their Pastor Archippus if he transgressed and to stirr him up to his busines so all ministers that caused divisions contrary to the doctrine of Christ were to be admonished and avoyded if they repent not so that the worde of God and admonition by the same if they trāsgresse is the waye to keepe all men in due order and not imposing Leiturgies upon the Church besides Christs Testament And where you collected thus that if read Prayers and imposed liturgies be Idolatrous then wher will you finde a visible Church say you I answered that the true Church might erre even in this poynte though not in like height of sinne Then you desire that the Churches of England may find like favour at our hand to which I answeare let him that handleth that question with you shew you how your sinnes herein exceede other countries and persequute such as reprove you Your church as you all it cannot pleade ignorance Your rayling speaches of blind Schismatiques Donatists etc. bewray what sweet water is in the heart if you cannot prove your Church to be the established Church of Christ they light all upon your self Ther are none Schismatiques but such as departe from the faith shew wherein we have transgressed will not be reformed In the meane tyme you are Schismatiques from Christ in that you practise the Statutes of Omry You chardge us with pride for that you saye we imagine to knowe more then all the Churches uppon earth This also hath bene Satans old weapon to deface the truth Ierem. 18.18 why maye not a simple babe in Christ see that which whole nations have not seene we cannot but speake the things Gods Worde teacheth us if we speake trueth you need not oppose that we judge anie man it is the worde of God shall judge us all and I saye it is