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A93865 An historical discourse, briefly setting forth the nature of procurations, and how they were anciently paid, with the reason of their payment; and somewhat also of synodals and pentecostals: with an appendix in answer to an opposer. By J.S. J. S. John Stephens. 1661 (1661) Wing S5448; Thomason E1057_9; ESTC R34604 60,663 159

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autem_fw-la qui_fw-la procurationem_fw-la quam_fw-la sine_fw-la visitatione_n potuit_fw-la de_fw-la jure_fw-la percipere_fw-la in_o pecuniâ_fw-la numeratâ_fw-la etc._n etc._n by_o which_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o there_o be_v procuratio_fw-la sine_fw-la visitatione_n censibus_fw-la exeunt_n de_fw-fr censibus_fw-la c._n quanto_fw-la gloss_n in_o v._o visitationis_fw-la c._n piocurationes_fw-la ext_fw-la cod_n c._n ad_fw-la nostrum_fw-la eod_fw-la in_o clem._n c._n vas_fw-la electionis_fw-la cod_n in_o fxtravagant_a gloss_n in_o v._o non_fw-la solverunt_fw-la c_o venerab_n ext_fw-la de_fw-fr censibus_fw-la but_o what_o procuration_n be_v here_o praecise_o mean_v may_v fall_v into_o question_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o i_o find_v mention_v in_o the_o canon_n law_n divers_a kind_n of_o procuration_n arise_v from_o different_a reason_n as_o namely_o first_o from_o visitation_n second_o pact_n three_o privilege_n fourthly_a and_o last_o custom_n all_o which_o as_o they_o do_v 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est_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la tractu_fw-la temponis_fw-la convalescere_fw-la and_o that_o in_o the_o canon_n law_n ibi_fw-la c._n non_fw-la sirmatur_fw-la 18._o de_fw-la regulis_fw-la juris_fw-la in_o 6_o &_o din_n ibi_fw-la non_fw-la firmatur_fw-la tractu_fw-la temporis_fw-la quod_fw-la de_fw-la jure_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la non_fw-la subsistit_fw-la there_o be_v no_o custom_n of_o such_o praeval_a authority_n ut_fw-la aut_fw-la rationem_fw-la uincat_fw-la consuetudo_fw-la in_o l._n 8._o tit_n 32._o c._n quae_fw-la sit_fw-la long_fw-mi consuetudo_fw-la aut_fw-la legem_fw-la as_o the_o emperor_n well_o determine_v now_o they_o that_o turn_v upon_o this_o hinge_n i_o mean_v that_o receive_v procuration_n upon_o the_o ground_n of_o custom_n must_v look_v that_o their_o receipt_n or_o claim_n be_v both_o rationabilis_fw-la &_o legitimè_fw-la praescripta_fw-la and_o this_o appertain_v especial_o to_o such_o archdeacon_n that_n receive_v procuration_n in_o the_o l._n bishop_n 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