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romanae_fw-la superstitionis_fw-la crepundia_fw-la beza_n disp_n 66._o additias_n illas_fw-la nugas_fw-la as_o we_o by_o no_o her_o name_n then_o these_o epist._n 25.9_o adventition_n trifle_n â—ere_z mockerye_n epist._n 505._o babish_a and_o sapless_a mixture_n again_o epist._n 260._o strange_a trifle_n mere_a fopperye_n again_o some_o â—erem_fw-la be_v open_o idolatrous_a other_o be_v foolish_a and_o unmeet_a and_o epist._n 117._o the_o use_n of_o the_o linen_n garment_n with_o many_o â—â—pperyes_n be_v retain_v both_o with_o they_o of_o magdenburgh_n and_o â—â—hem_n of_o wittemberge_n neither_o be_v calvin_n alone_o in_o these_o â—â—rmes_n cassander_n pag._n 852._o complain_v that_o most_o of_o â—â—ur_n writer_n consent_v in_o they_o not_o only_o they_o have_v omit_v â—hose_v as_o less_o profitable_a and_o superfluous_a but_o the_o most_o meaning_n â—â—ur_n protestant_n divine_v have_v judge_v they_o foppish_a ridiculous_a and_o babish_a yea_o to_o be_v condemn_v and_o abandon_v as_o hurtful_a and_o pernicious_a the_o puppy_n good_a
use_n and_o the_o same_o end_n â—here_o be_v still_o religious_a worship_n proper_o though_o false_a again_o this_o also_o be_v especial_o to_o be_v mind_v that_o we_o â—re_n than_o say_v to_o keep_v the_o same_o use_n and_o end_n not_o when_o we_o employ_v the_o same_o thing_n or_o action_n but_o when_o we_o use_v â—hem_n as_o under_o the_o act_n of_o the_o same_o rule_n as_o in_o the_o same_o way_n as_o in_o the_o like_o virtual_a respect_n unto_o the_o same_o end_n i_o often_o mention_v that_o particle_n of_o similitude_n as_o because_o â—hough_o the_o ordinance_n of_o man_n can_v have_v the_o same_o virtue_n as_o god_n have_v nor_o can_v attain_v the_o same_o end_n of_o honour_v of_o god_n as_o his_o doe_n yet_o if_o we_o take_v they_o and_o use_v they_o as_o such_o they_o be_v false_a worship_n to_o we_o so_o abuse_v of_o invention_n as_o the_o use_n of_o god_n own_o ordinance_n be_v true_a worship_n so_o that_o where_o both_o these_o be_v the_o same_o mean_n in_o a_o proper_a 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upon_o their_o own_o ceremony_n the_o title_n of_o divine_a as_o in_o effect_n when_o the_o proper_a service_n of_o god_n be_v place_v in_o they_o or_o merit_n â—r_o necessity_n holiness_n and_o efficacy_n though_o by_o virtue_n of_o the_o church_n institution_n for_o what_o can_v be_v say_v more_o of_o god_n ordinance_n then_o this_o nay_o not_o all_o this_o true_o i_o mean_v for_o merit_v etc._n etc._n â—hence_o i_o reason_v diverse_o if_o the_o superstitious_a encroach_a in_o god_n service_n by_o appoint_v mean_n of_o the_o same_o use_n efficacy_n and_o end_n with_o the_o lord_n be_v a_o breach_n of_o worship_n proper_o divine_a â—hen_o also_o be_v it_o real_o and_o proper_o though_o false_o divine_a worship_n predicament_n opposita_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o codem_fw-la predicament_n for_o a_o sin_n direct_o contrary_a to_o the_o duty_n of_o a_o command_n be_v even_o of_o the_o same_o kind_n with_o the_o duty_n but_o â—he_v appointment_n and_o use_n of_o such_o mean_n in_o such_o a_o virtue_n â—o_o such_o a_o end_n be_v a_o breach_n of_o true_a worship_n real_o divine_a â—rgo_v it_o be_v real_o divine_a false_a worship_n 3._o again_o that_o which_o make_v a_o ceremony_n proper_o species_n of_o divine_a false_a worship_n that_o add_v more_o than_o a_o adjunct_n to_o divine_a worship_n for_o a_o adjunct_n do_v not_o very_o â—he_v kind_a or_o make_v a_o new_a species_n but_o only_o alter_v the_o â—ame_n species_n but_o institution_n thus_o superstitious_a make_v a_o action_n a_o species_n of_o divine_a false_a worship_n by_o the_o rej._n consent_n nay_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o all_o divine_n orthodox_n that_o know_v what_o they_o write_v or_o speak_v ergo_fw-la it_o add_v more_o than_o a_o adjunct_n to_o divine_a worship_n for_o it_o make_v it_o a_o species_n which_o be_v profess_o contrary_a to_o that_o which_o the_o rej._n have_v in_o this_o consectary_n namely_o that_o human_a institution_n make_v a_o action_n a_o adjunct_n to_o divine_a worship_n not_o a_o part_n whereas_o here_o its_o plain_a it_o make_v it_o a_o species_n and_o so_o a_o part_n of_o divine_a false_a worship_n 4._o again_o its_o lawful_a to_o add_v a_o adjunct_n which_o be_v proper_o divine_a to_o god_n worship_n by_o the_o rej._n learning_n pag._n 36.37_o but_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o add_v the_o mean_n of_o the_o use_n to_o the_o same_o end_n which_o god_n have_v appoint_v as_o iâ—_n be_v not_o lawful_a to_o the_o jew_n to_o use_v other_o bracelet_n about_o there_o neck_n frontlett_n upon_o their_o forehead_n wherein_o they_o shall_v write_v the_o law_n answerable_a to_o the_o frontlett_n and_o fringe_n which_o god_n appoint_v that_o which_o the_o rej._n add_v touch_v the_o appointment_n of_o the_o place_n of_o meeting_n mistake_n rej._n his_o strange_a mistake_n be_v a_o most_o miserable_a mistake_v hiâ—_n word_n be_v the_o lord_n appointment_n of_o one_o place_n for_o sacrifice_n and_o of_o some_o set_v day_n for_o the_o solemn_a worship_n of_o god_n aâ—_n the_o sabbath_n and_o their_o feast_n to_o israel_n make_v the_o observance_n of_o that_o very_a place_n and_o these_o time_n to_o be_v part_n of_o worship_n but_o the_o church_n appointment_n of_o a_o set_v place_n 3â—_n pag._n 3â—_n or_o time_n unto_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o act_n of_o religious_a worship_n because_o it_o incur_v not_o the_o worship_n itself_o leave_v the_o observance_n thereof_o as_o a_o mere_a ceremony_n herein_o i_o say_v the_o rej._n miss_v the_o mark_n miserable_o for_o the_o temple_n be_v a_o type_n of_o christ_n body_n pull_v down_o this_o temple_n and_o i_o will_v raise_v it_o up_o within_o three_o day_n but_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o temple_n of_o his_o body_n john_n 2.19.21_o and_o the_o very_a frame_n of_o it_o by_o god_n institution_n and_o ordination_n be_v holy_a have_v a_o efficiency_n and_o virtue_n through_o god_n appointment_n to_o carry_v up_o the_o heart_n to_o god_n by_o that_o virtual_a respect_n and_o efficacy_n which_o it_o have_v as_o his_o mean_n to_o that_o end_n now_o let_v the_o church_n institute_v and_o appoint_v a_o place_n and_o put_v this_o virtue_n &_o efficacy_n in_o it_o by_o their_o institution_n to_o the_o same_o end_n to_o which_o the_o temple_n be_v appoint_v and_o i_o suppose_v the_o rej._n himself_o will_v say_v its_o superstition_n and_o false_a worship_n but_o our_o temple_n have_v no_o such_o thing_n put_v upon_o they_o to_o no_o such_o end_n &_o therefore_o be_v not_o in_o the_o same_o end_n and_o use_v unless_o the_o rej._n will_v â—hould_v that_o prayer_n better_o ascend_v in_o paulls_n church_n when_o he_o round_v a_o pillar_n in_o the_o ear_n then_o when_o he_o pray_v abroad_o and_o that_o he_o be_v of_o opinion_n with_o bishop_n andrew_n that_o we_o be_v hear_v ibi_fw-la non_fw-fr qui_fw-fr praecatur_fw-la sed_fw-la quia_fw-la ibi_fw-la not_o because_o of_o the_o prayer_n that_o be_v make_v but_o because_o of_o the_o place_n in_o which_o it_o be_v make_v but_o i_o hope_v the_o rej._n be_v far_o of_o from_o such_o delusion_n the_o second_o thing_n we_o charge_v upon_o this_o consectary_n be_v that_o it_o be_v collect_v by_o any_o force_n of_o reason_n from_o the_o forego_n definition_n for_o cast_v it_o into_o a_o form_n and_o the_o very_a expression_n will_v be_v confutation_n enough_o for_o the_o frame_n must_v stand_v thus_o if_o a_o ceremony_n be_v a_o outward_a action_n institute_v and_o purposely_o observe_v in_o relation_n to_o some_o thing_n whereof_o it_o be_v neither_o cause_n nor_o part_n than_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o same_o use_n and_o end_n make_v not_o a_o ceremony_n part_n of_o divine_a worship_n these_o thing_n have_v so_o ill_a connexion_n and_o cement_n of_o reason_n that_o when_o they_o be_v set_v in_o a_o form_n they_o fall_v all_o in_o piece_n as_o though_o the_o consequent_a be_v afraid_a of_o the_o antecedent_n
concern_v the_o brazen_a altar_n build_v by_o solomon_n 1._o king_n 8.64_o 1._o the_o defender_n bring_v for_o instance_n a_o brazeâ—_n altar_n build_v by_o solomon_n it_o be_v reply_v that_o in_o the_o text_n there_o be_v no_o mention_n either_o of_o altar_n or_o brass_n or_o building_n but_o only_o of_o sanctify_v the_o inner_a part_n of_o the_o court_n the_o rejoyner_n answer_v thatch_v word_n brazen_a slip_v in_o by_o oversight_n the_o court_n may_v well_o be_v call_v a_o altar_n in_o respect_n of_o present_a use_n the_o rej._n before_o upon_o far_o less_o occasion_n talk_v of_o slippered_a trick_n etc._n etc._n but_o i_o leave_v this_o slip_n in_o and_o out_o unto_o the_o reader_n censure_n so_o that_o no_o advantage_n be_v make_v of_o it_o in_o prosecution_n of_o this_o instance_n 2._o yet_o because_o not_o only_o the_o defender_n name_v aâ—_n altar_n but_o the_o rejoynder_n also_o mainteyn_v it_o for_o good_a let_v we_o see_v what_o may_v be_v answer_v unto_o the_o reply_o hiâ—_n collection_n therfrom_o namely_o that_o if_o man_n may_v on_o hiâ—_n own_o head_n appoint_v a_o altar_n as_o they_o say_v than_o man_n may_v appoint_v not_o only_o accidental_a worship_n but_o also_o such_o aâ—_n be_v great_a than_o some_o essential_a worship_n because_o the_o alter_n which_o sanctifi_v the_o offer_n be_v great_a than_o the_o offer_v mat._n 23.19_o the_o rejoynder_n here_o accuse_v the_o replieâ—_n for_o want_n of_o judgement_n in_o this_o allegation_n because_o thaâ—_n which_o our_o saviour_n say_v be_v proper_a to_o that_o one_o only_a altar_n in_o the_o temple_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o special_a command_n of_o god_n to_o use_v they_o and_o their_o superadded_a mystical_a signification_n whereas_o other_o altar_n be_v only_o permit_v and_o so_o help_v to_o the_o offering_n but_o not_o sanctifier_n of_o they_o nay_o they_o be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o offering_n as_o also_o the_o altar_n of_o god_n appointment_n in_o the_o time_n of_o moses_n solomon_n ezra_n and_o machabeus_n be_v first_o sanctify_v by_o the_o gift_n that_o be_v offer_v on_o they_o and_o so_o install_v in_o their_o peculiar_a privilege_n of_o sanctify_v the_o gift_n which_o be_v afterward_o offer_v upon_o they_o for_o all_o this_o no_o consent_n be_v show_v of_o any_o divine_a only_o we_o be_v bid_v to_o see_v zanchie_a de_fw-fr redem_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 16._o thes_n 2.3_o now_o 1._o zanchie_a have_v nothing_o to_o the_o rejoynder_n his_o purpose_n he_o do_v not_o distinguish_v betwixt_o altar_n command_v and_o altar_n permit_v but_o say_v of_o the_o command_v altar_n that_o they_o be_v annex_v unto_o the_o act_n of_o worship_n and_o so_o he_o do_v of_o the_o ark_n itself_o and_o all_o the_o principal_a &_o most_o essential_a mean_n appoint_v by_o god_n what_o can_v the_o rejoynder_n make_v of_o this_o 2._o the_o special_a command_n of_o god_n be_v as_o well_o for_o the_o offering_n as_o for_o the_o altar_n so_o that_o can_v be_v the_o reason_n why_o the_o altar_n do_v sanctify_v the_o offer_n more_o than_o the_o offer_v the_o altar_n and_o the_o same_o aequalitie_n be_v in_o the_o superadded_a mystical_a and_o typical_a signification_n 3._o i_o be_o sorry_a to_o hear_v from_o d.b._n that_o the_o altar_n build_v by_o abraham_n jacob_n etc._n etc._n before_o moses_n be_v only_o permit_v he_o may_v as_o well_o say_v that_o all_o the_o sacrifice_n before_o moses_n be_v only_o permit_v bellarmine_n himself_o de_fw-fr eff._n sacr._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 31._o confess_v that_o they_o be_v by_o inspiration_n and_o impulsion_n divine_a and_o all_o our_o divine_n dispute_v against_o papist_n about_o will-worship_n make_v that_o divine_a instinct_n for_o substance_n a_o divine_a command_n 4._o how_o can_v altar_n be_v sanctify_v by_o offering_n when_o the_o offering_n themselves_o be_v not_o in_o state_n of_o sanctification_n actual_o and_o proper_o before_o they_o come_v to_o the_o altar_n he_o that_o leave_v his_o gift_n at_o the_o altar_n that_o be_v ready_a to_o lay_v it_o thereon_o and_o then_o go_v to_o be_v reconcile_v with_o his_o brother_n have_v not_o yet_o actual_o sanctify_v the_o same_o 5._o the_o altar_n of_o moses_n and_o solomon_n be_v not_o first_o sanctify_v by_o offering_n upon_o they_o but_o by_o moses_n his_o anoint_v the_o manifestation_n of_o god_n glorious_a praesence_n in_o a_o cloud_n fill_v the_o tabernacle_n and_o temple_n and_o by_o that_o fire_n which_o come_v down_o from_o heaven_n to_o consume_v the_o sacrifice_n ex._n 40._o leu._n 8._o &_o 9_o 1._o king_n 8._o 2._o chr._n 7.6_o if_o salomon_n sanctify_a court_n do_v not_o sanctify_v the_o sacrifice_n offer_v thereon_o then_o either_o those_o sacrifice_n be_v less_o holy_a than_o those_o which_o be_v offer_v on_o the_o altar_n and_o sanctify_v thereby_o or_o else_o they_o have_v more_o sanctify_a virtue_n in_o they_o than_o the_o other_o which_o do_v not_o sanctify_v their_o altar_n as_o those_o do_v their_o court._n the_o like_a may_v be_v say_v and_o more_o also_o of_o abraham_n altar_n etc._n etc._n but_o this_o be_v enough_o 3._o our_o first_o answer_n be_v the_o same_o that_o d._n whitaker_n d._n sutlife_o etc._n etc._n give_v to_o bellarmine_n who_o the_o pont._n lib_n 4._o cap._n 19_o have_v the_o same_o objection_n against_o calvin_n quicquid_fw-la solomon_n fecit_fw-la id_fw-la dei_fw-la authoritate_fw-la &_o spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la nutu_fw-la fecit_fw-la say_v d._n whitaker_n that_o be_v solomon_n do_v this_o by_o divine_a authority_n and_o instinct_n of_o the_o h._n ghost_n the_o rej._n except_v 1._o that_o bellarmine_n will_v prove_v by_o this_o example_n proper_a essential_a worship_n by_o man_n ordain_v but_o if_o he_o have_v look_v upon_o the_o chapter_n quote_v he_o may_v have_v see_v that_o the_o only_a quaestion_n there_o be_v whether_o it_o be_v sin_n for_o man_n by_o their_o own_o authority_n to_o erect_v a_o new_a altar_n in_o the_o temple_n and_o this_o the_o def._n and_o rej._n with_o bellarmine_n deny_v 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sacro_fw-la exponitur_fw-la ne_fw-la ipsius_fw-la
prove_v this_o altar_n to_o be_v appoint_v unto_o god_n service_n because_o it_o be_v a_o pattern_n of_o the_o lord_n altar_n as_o our_o cross_n be_v a_o resemblance_n of_o christ_n cross_n be_v 1._o reprove_v by_o the_o reply_o because_o the_o cross_n whereon_o christ_n do_v suffer_v be_v no_o more_o holy_a than_o judas_n and_o so_o not_o to_o be_v compare_v unto_o the_o lord_n altar_n to_o this_o the_o rejoynder_n in_o many_o word_n make_v show_v of_o say_v something_o but_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o reader_n if_o he_o say_v any_o thing_n i_o for_o my_o part_n can_v not_o discern_v what_o it_o be_v 5._o the_o replier_n also_o in_o the_o second_o place_n allege_v that_o every_o resemblance_n of_o a_o holy_a thing_n be_v not_o therefore_o holy_a because_o then_o every_o alehouse_n picture_n take_v from_o holy_a thing_n mention_v in_o scripture_n shall_v be_v holy_a and_o a_o model_n of_o the_o temple_n carry_v by_o a_o tyrian_a workman_n into_o his_o country_n for_o news_n shall_v have_v be_v holy_a to_o this_o the_o rejoynder_n after_o a_o few_o word_n of_o course_n answer_v that_o this_o be_v to_o separat_fw-la the_o resemblance_n of_o a_o thing_n from_o the_o use_n of_o it_o as_o if_o the_o def._n have_v not_o argue_v simple_o &_o mere_o from_o the_o resemblance_n make_v as_o yet_o no_o mention_n of_o the_o use_n if_o there_o be_v any_o sophistry_n in_o this_o argument_n as_o the_o rejoynder_n say_v there_o be_v it_o be_v first_o find_v in_o the_o defender_n his_o uncouth_a reason_n 6._o the_o defender_n go_v about_o to_o prove_v first_o that_o this_o altar_n do_v mystical_o signify_v a_o spiritual_a duty_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o gileadite_n then_o live_v viz_o to_o teach_v that_o the_o lord_n be_v god_n to_o this_o it_o be_v reply_v that_o it_o do_v not_o appear_v out_o of_o the_o text_n that_o there_o be_v intend_v any_o use_n for_o the_o present_a age_n that_o then_o live_v nay_o the_o contrary_n may_v be_v gather_v out_o of_o the_o 24._o and_o 25._o verse_n we_o have_v do_z it_o for_o fâ—ar_v of_o this_o thing_n say_v in_o time_n to_o come_v your_o child_n may_v speak_v unto_o our_o child_n etc._n etc._n so_o shall_v your_o child_n make_v our_o child_n cease_v from_o fear_v the_o lord_n the_o rejoynder_n oppose_v that_o there_o be_v afterward_o mention_v make_v of_o we_o and_o you_o but_o that_o be_v nothing_o because_o it_o note_v only_o that_o the_o generation_n to_o come_v may_v deny_v we_o on_o this_o side_n jordan_n not_o to_o have_v be_v joint_a tribe_n with_o you_o on_o the_o other_o side_n of_o that_o river_n upon_o this_o the_o repl._n conclude_v that_o this_o altar_n be_v no_o direct_a help_n unto_o devotion_n to_o which_o be_v rejoin_v that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o direct_a that_o be_v immediate_a help_v unto_o devotion_n but_o immediate_o significative_a &_o collateral_o for_o devotion_n it_o be_v such_o distinction_n i_o never_o hear_v nor_o read_v any_o man_n may_v see_v that_o a_o ceremony_n direct_o and_o immediate_o signify_v a_o spiritual_a duty_n be_v a_o direct_a &_o immediate_a help_n to_o devotion_n to_o what_o other_o help_n this_o help_n be_v collateral_a i_o will_v fain_o know_v a_o further_a reason_n of_o this_o conclusion_n be_v add_v viz_o then_o most_o of_o the_o other_o tribe_n shall_v have_v have_v use_n of_o it_o and_o also_o reason_n to_o have_v set_v up_o altar_n of_o devotion_n at_o every_o three-way-leet_n as_o cross_n stand_v the_o rejoynder_n be_v 1._o that_o the_o other_o tribe_n no_o doubt_n have_v use_v of_o it_o as_o of_o a_o witness_n that_o the_o lord_n be_v god_n now_o let_v any_o man_n consider_v whether_o they_o which_o ordinary_o resort_v to_o the_o tabernacle_n and_o altar_n of_o god_n have_v need_n of_o a_o humane_a altar_n far_o remoove_v from_o their_o sight_n to_o put_v they_o in_o mind_n that_o the_o lord_n be_v god_n and_o whether_o the_o two_o tribe_n and_o a_o half_a without_o the_o consent_n or_o knowledge_n of_o the_o chief_a priest_n the_o chief_a magistrate_n the_o far_o great_a part_n of_o people_n and_o power_n to_o appoint_v unto_o all_o israel_n a_o solemn_a significant_a ceremony_n for_o their_o common_a use_n the_o rej._n add_v in_o the_o 2._o place_n that_o all_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o the_o same_o help_n to_o devotion_n and_o the_o other_o tribe_n need_v no_o such_o monument_n or_o pattern_n have_v the_o altar_n itself_o in_o possession_n where_o 1._o except_o he_o hold_v the_o two_o tribe_n and_o a_o half_a bind_v to_o set_v up_o this_o altar_n he_o make_v in_o that_o no_o difference_n if_o he_o so_o hold_v than_o it_o be_v no_o instance_n of_o a_o mere_a arbitrarie_a ceremony_n 2._o the_o two_o tribe_n have_v the_o lord_n altar_n in_o present_a possession_n as_o well_o as_o divers_a of_o the_o other_o so_o that_o by_o this_o reason_n they_o also_o for_o the_o present_a need_n no_o such_o monument_n and_o pattern_n which_o be_v the_o very_a point_n in_o this_o place_n question_v 7._o the_o reply_o affirm_v that_o in_o regard_n of_o posterity_n the_o immediate_a end_n of_o this_o altar_n be_v to_o testify_v that_o those_o tribe_n beyond_o jordan_n belong_v to_o the_o same_o people_n and_o so_o have_v right_a to_o the_o same_o worship_n with_o those_o of_o this_o side_n jordan_n which_o be_v nothing_o to_o a_o ceremony_n of_o state_n and_o immediate_a use_n in_o the_o special_a solemn_a worship_n of_o god_n the_o rejoynder_n ask_v if_o this_o be_v not_o a_o holy_a religious_a end_n i_o answer_v it_o be_v so_o holy_a and_o religious_a as_o every_o landmark_a of_o a_o parson_n glebe-land_n or_o every_o sign_n of_o a_o parish-bound_a be_v holy_a and_o religious_a but_o not_o so_o as_o mystical_a ceremony_n b._n andrew_n against_o perone_n p._n 18_o give_v some_o light_n to_o this_o by_o the_o ancient_a use_n of_o light_n and_o incense_v there_o be_v light_n say_v he_o there_o be_v incense_v use_v by_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o their_o service_n not_o for_o any_o mystical_a meaning_n but_o as_o it_o be_v think_v for_o this_o cause_n that_o where_o the_o christian_n in_o time_n of_o persecution_n have_v their_o meeting_n most_o common_o in_o place_n dark_a and_o so_o need_v light_n and_o dampish_a and_o so_o need_v good_a savour_n they_o provide_v light_n against_o one_o and_o incense_v against_o the_o other_o after_o the_o church_n retain_v these_o thing_n to_o show_v themselves_o the_o successor_n of_o those_o ancient_a christian_n etc._n etc._n the_o after-age_n devize_v meaning_n and_o signification_n of_o their_o own_o which_o from_o the_o beginning_n be_v not_o so_o if_o this_o be_v so_o as_o it_o be_v think_v then_o there_o may_v be_v sign_n of_o succession_n unto_o religious_a forefather_n without_o any_o mystical_a meaning_n which_o be_v all_o that_o by_o we_o be_v plead_v about_o this_o altar_n of_o jordan_n and_o for_o further_a manifest_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o this_o altar_n let_v it_o be_v well_o consider_v what_o josephus_n one_o of_o the_o learnede_a and_o most_o ancient_a jew_n now_o exstant_fw-la say_v antiq._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 4._o they_o place_v a_o altar_n on_o the_o bank_n of_o the_o river_n as_o a_o memorable_a sign_n of_o the_o nearness_n and_o affinity_n of_o they_o that_o dwell_v beyond_o jordan_n viz._n with_o they_o within_o canaan_n again_o it_o be_v not_o place_v for_o worship_n but_o symbolical_o and_o as_o a_o memorandum_n of_o their_o relation_n to_o you_o 8._o the_o rejoynder_n as_o have_v sufficient_o confute_v all_o other_o answer_n bring_v in_o one_o make_v to_o himself_o in_o conference_n though_o he_o have_v not_o find_v it_o in_o print_n as_o a_o grand_a absurdity_n namely_o that_o the_o gileadite_n do_v ill_a in_o erect_v this_o altar_n and_o the_o rest_n also_o in_o allow_v of_o it_o now_o as_o for_o allowance_n by_o the_o high_a priest_n prince_n and_o all_o the_o congregation_n of_o israel_n which_o he_o speak_v of_o i_o find_v it_o not_o evident_a in_o the_o text._n about_o the_o other_o i_o find_v this_o 1._o that_o d._n fulke_o no_o absurd_a divine_a against_o sander_n of_o image_n pag._n 649._o write_v thus_o in_o print_n the_o two_o tribe_n and_o a_o half_a josh._n 22._o make_v not_o a_o image_n but_o a_o altar_n for_o a_o memorial_n and_o yet_o their_o fact_n be_v not_o commendable_a though_o it_o be_v in_o some_o sort_n excusable_a 2._o i_o find_v also_o that_o calvin_n before_o he_o upon_o josh._n 22._o say_v thus_o duae_fw-la tribus_fw-la â—um_fw-la dimidia_fw-la non_fw-la leviter_fw-la peccarunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o two_o tribe_n and_o a_o half_a do_v very_o ill_a which_o be_v the_o great_a absurdity_n that_o the_o rejoynder_n have_v hear_v in_o conference_n but_o not_o see_v in_o print_n before_o now_o sect_n 17.18.19.20.21_o
reg._n cap._n 8._o thus_o express_v it_o be_v lawful_a to_o doâ—_n what_o solomon_n do_v because_o though_o it_o be_v forbid_v to_o offer_v sacrifice_n elsewhere_o then_o at_o the_o altar_n of_o whole_a burnt-offering_n yet_o now_o upon_o necessity_n it_o may_v be_v when_o the_o altar_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o hold_v all_o nor_o do_v solomon_n against_o the_o law_n because_o now_o sacrifice_n be_v burn_v at_o the_o altar_n and_o on_o the_o altar_n together_o and_o so_o the_o whole_a court_n of_o the_o priest_n be_v in_o a_o manner_n but_o as_o one_o altar_n and_o the_o intent_n of_o the_o law_n be_v no_o other_o then_o that_o they_o shall_v not_o offer_v in_o divers_a place_n but_o here_o be_v but_o one_o continue_a place_n locis_fw-la licinâ—â—_n fuit_fw-la quod_fw-la 〈◊〉_d solomon_n quia_fw-la licet_fw-la prohibitum_fw-la asset_fw-la ofâ—erri_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la alibi_fw-la quam_fw-la in_o altari_fw-la holâ—caustorum_n tamen_fw-la nunc_fw-la ex_fw-la necessitate_v licuit_fw-la cum_fw-la non_fw-la possint_fw-la capi_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la super_fw-la altar_n etiam_fw-la non_fw-la videbaturagi_n contra_fw-la legem_fw-la quia_fw-la nunc_fw-la cremebantur_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la apud_fw-la altar_n &_o simul_fw-la in_o altari_fw-la &_o â—ic_fw-la videbatur_fw-la totum_fw-la atrium_n sacerdoâ—â—m_fw-la esse_fw-la tanquam_fw-la unum_fw-la altar_n intentio_fw-la autem_fw-la legis_fw-la erat_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la offerrerentur_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la in_o diversis_fw-la locis_fw-la sect_n 22._o concern_v synogogue_n to_o this_o simple_a instance_n the_o reply_o answer_v 1._o that_o synagogue_n be_v no_o significant_a ceremony_n 2._o that_o it_o be_v most_o likely_a they_o be_v first_o found_v by_o those_o prophet_n which_o bring_v in_o school_n of_o the_o prophet_n 3._o that_o in_o they_o there_o be_v of_o old_a no_o significant_a humane_a ceremony_n use_v to_o the_o first_o be_v rejoin_v that_o the_o synagogue_n bear_v some_o representation_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n but_o i_o ask_v how_o be_v this_o representation_n in_o matter_n or_o form_n or_o use_v he_o seem_v to_o refer_v it_o unto_o use_n in_o resort_v to_o solemn_a worship_n now_o let_v any_o man_n consider_v whether_o every_o place_n appoint_v for_o solemn_a worship_n be_v a_o significant_a ceremony_n if_o so_o than_o no_o anabaptist_n ever_o deny_v significant_a ceremony_n of_o mansappoint_v which_o yet_o the_o rejoynderaccuse_v they_o for_o but_o this_o fond_a conceit_n be_v sufficient_o confute_v in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o writing_n chap._n 4._o and_o 5._o yet_o suppose_v the_o synagogue_n have_v be_v a_o representation_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n which_o be_v a_o ceremony_n be_v every_o representation_n of_o a_o ceremony_n a_o new_a ceremony_n then_o any_o man_n may_v make_v more_o ceremony_n than_o there_o be_v man_n in_o his_o parish_n the_o second_o about_o the_o sound_n of_o synagogue_n by_o prophet_n which_o the_o repl._n say_v be_v most_o likely_a the_o rejoynder_n make_v a_o bold_a affirmation_n without_o proof_n but_o what_o boldness_n be_v in_o conjecture_v that_o to_o be_v likely_a which_o no_o man_n can_v give_v any_o likely_a reason_n against_o the_o three_o of_o no_o humane_a significant_a ceremony_n use_v in_o synagogue_n be_v absolute_o pronounce_v false_a but_o no_o reason_n of_o this_o sentence_n be_v give_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n but_o only_o that_o they_o use_v there_o reverend_a gesture_n as_o if_o all_o reverend_a gesture_n be_v significant_a ceremony_n of_o man_n invention_n the_o rest_n that_o he_o quote_v out_o of_o purchas_n his_o pilgrimage_n be_v wander_a pilgrim_n without_o house_n or_o home_n and_o therefore_o worthy_a no_o other_o answer_n but_o that_o which_o our_o law_n have_v provide_v for_o vagabond_n sect_n 23.24.25.26_o concern_v love-feast_n 1._o the_o instance_n out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v such_o as_o we_o have_v now_o show_v they_o to_o be_v out_o of_o the_o new_a testament_n first_o be_v bring_v in_o the_o feast_n of_o love_n or_o charity_n now_o concern_v these_o feast_n no_o man_n can_v certain_o inform_v we_o who_o do_v appoint_v they_o i_o mervayl_v say_v the_o apostle_n according_a to_o erasmus_n his_o paraphrase_n on_o 1._o cor._n 11._o quis_fw-la ritus_fw-la istos_fw-la iâ—_n vos_fw-la invexerit_fw-la who_o brought-in_a these_o love-feast_n no_o man_n can_v tell_v we_o what_o religious_a signification_n be_v by_o institution_n annex_v unto_o they_o nay_o it_o can_v be_v show_v where_o they_o be_v speak_v of_o without_o reproof_n yet_o the_o defend_n and_o rejoynd_v will_v needs_o have_v they_o significant_a humane_a ceremony_n ordain_v and_o use_v by_o the_o apostle_n 2._o to_o this_o it_o be_v 1._o answer_v by_o m_n r._n nic._n that_o if_o they_o be_v of_o apostolical_a than_o they_o be_v of_o divine_a institution_n then_o which_o say_v the_o defender_n he_o can_v not_o have_v utter_v a_o more_o unlearned_a position_n nay_o soft_a it_o be_v reply_v this_o censure_n be_v too_o too_o magisterial_a because_o to_o say_v that_o that_o which_o come_v from_o the_o apostle_n as_o apostle_n come_v from_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n be_v no_o unlearned_a position_n o_o yes_o answer_v the_o rejoynder_n because_o the_o apostle_n ordain_v some_o thing_n not_o as_o apostle_n not_o by_o immediate_a revelation_n but_o by_o the_o direction_n and_o authority_n of_o god_n word_n in_o which_o kind_n of_o rejoyn_v i_o see_v no_o more_o learning_n than_o needs_o must_v 1._o the_o quaestion_n be_v of_o apostolical_a institution_n the_o answer_n be_v of_o that_o which_o the_o apostle_n do_v but_o not_o as_o apostle_n that_o be_v not_o proper_o apostolical_a 2._o that_o which_o be_v manifest_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n shine_v â—n_o the_o word_n they_o be_v the_o rejoynder_n his_o word_n be_v deâ—ied_v to_o be_v divine_a 3._o no_o example_n be_v or_o can_v be_v bring_v of_o a_o new_a significant_a ceremony_n institute_v by_o the_o apostle_n without_o immediate_a 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25.26_o 2._o that_o we_o can_v be_v say_v sincere_o to_o have_v repent_v of_o idolatry_n etc._n etc._n except_o we_o be_v ashamed_a of_o and_o cast_v away_o the_o instrument_n and_o monument_n of_o it_o 1._o chron._n 33.15_o is._n 1.29_o and_o 2.20_o and_o 3â—_n 22.2_o cor._n 7.11_o see_v calvin_n in_o deut._n serm_n 52._o eph._n 86._o 3._o that_o we_o shall_v be_v in_o danger_n to_o be_v corrupt_v ex._n 34_o 1â—_n 15._o deut._n 7._o 25.26_o judg._n 2.13_o gal._n 2.5.4_o we_o shall_v harden_v idolater_n ezech._n 16.54_o 1._o cor._n 6.10_o 5._o there_o be_v more_o danger_n in_o popish_a ceremony_n because_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n and_o we_o converse_v more_o with_o papist_n then_o with_o other_o idolater_n now_o of_o all_o these_o reason_n and_o allegaâ—ions_n the_o def._n answer_v direct_o to_o nothing_o but_o only_o to_o those_o word_n see_v calvin_n the_o rej._n do_v not_o deny_v but_o the_o proof_n be_v such_o as_o have_v be_v say_v neither_o can_v he_o say_v that_o the_o 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offer_v to_o idol_n though_o it_o be_v otherwise_o lawful_a as_o appear_v 1._o cor._n 10.29_o and_o a_o question_n may_v â—e_v make_v whether_o it_o have_v be_v more_o unlawful_a to_o eat_v â—uch_o thing_n in_o the_o idol_n temple_n then_o to_o take_v from_o â—hence_o thing_n notorious_o know_v to_o be_v such_o and_o eat_v â—hem_fw-mi in_o christian_a congregation_n at_o love-feast_n exo._n â—4_n 12_o deut._n 7.4_o speak_v not_o only_o of_o a_o civil_a but_o also_o of_o â—_o religious_a league_n such_o as_o shall_v hinder_v they_o from_o breaâ—ing_v down_o their_o altar_n image_n groave_n etc._n etc._n as_o juniâ—s_n in_o his_o anal._n note_v and_o the_o word_n immediate_o follow_v show_n gal._n 2.5_o place_v danger_n in_o conformity_n to_o â—ewish_a ceremony_n do_v insinuate_v as_o much_o at_o the_o â—east_n in_o conformity_n to_o idolater_n 5._o the_o rejoynder_n add_v that_o isai._n 1.29_o and_o jude_n 23._o confute_v our_o assertion_n because_o man_n may_v pray_v in_o garden_n and_o 〈◊〉_d garment_n spot_v with_o the_o flesh_n be_v wash_v may_v be_v use_v â—nd_v such_o confutation_n the_o rejoynder_n abound_v with_o â—ut_v we_o can_v distinguish_v betwixt_o god_n good_a necessary_a â—_z and_o man_n invention_n of_o idolatrous_a abuse_n and_o â—nnecessary_a use_n yet_o garden_n may_v not_o be_v use_v by_o the_o jew_n for_o their_o ceremonial_a solemn_a worship_n neither_o be_v every_o wash_a 〈◊〉_d pollute_a garment_n sufficient_a to_o make_v it_o fit_v for_o a_o â—onest_a man_n that_o have_v other_o clothes_n to_o put_v on_o the_o waâ—â—ing_n of_o a_o cross_n be_v like_o the_o wash_n of_o a_o piece_n of_o clay_n or_o â—f_o a_o leopard_n spot_n 6._o now_o sir_n say_v the_o rejoynd_a you_o have_v your_o will_n â—he_v three_o proof_n be_v examine_v and_o find_v to_o be_v light_n face_v â—o_o be_v repent_v of_o as_o have_v abuse_v man_n bate_v a_o acequoth_a â—oulton_fw-mi the_o whole_a proof_n be_v not_o examine_v nothing_o be_v say_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o reason_n but_o only_o to_o the_o testimony_n which_o yet_o be_v not_o find_v to_o be_v leight_n face_v abusive_a etc._n etc._n and_o nothing_o at_o all_o be_v say_v to_o the_o five_o reason_n see_v the_o pope_n be_v reveal_v to_o be_v that_o great_a antichrist_n 2._o thes._n 2._o apoc._n 17._o and_o his_o idolatry_n trouble_v the_o church_n at_o this_o day_n more_o than_o any_o other_o and_o our_o people_n converse_v more_o with_o papist_n then_o with_o any_o other_o idolater_n there_o be_v more_o danger_n in_o retain_v the_o ceremony_n and_o relic_n of_o popery_n then_o of_o any_o other_o idolatry_n whatsoever_o leu._n 18.3_o see_v calvin_n 7._o calvin_n be_v allege_v in_o his_o 52._o sermon_n on_o deut._n speak_v thus_o if_o we_o have_v any_o drop_n of_o good_a zeal_n in_o we_o it_o must_v needs_o vex_v and_o grieve_v we_o
wolphius_n lavater_n sadeel_v jewel_n bilson_n fulke_o rainolds_n andrue_v and_o perkins_n to_o all_o these_o it_o be_v unseasonable_a say_v the_o rejoynder_n to_o answer_v at_o full_a in_o this_o place_n we_o must_v therefore_o wait_v though_o in_o vain_a for_o a_o place_n which_o will_v seem_v seasonable_a 6._o the_o defender_n in_o fine_a note_v two_o disparity_n betwixt_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n and_o our_o ceremony_n 1._o that_o the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o jew_n about_o that_o be_v public_a general_a and_o in_o the_o same_o church_n which_o be_v not_o so_o with_o our_o ceremony_n 2._o that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o mean_n to_o cure_v the_o idolatry_n of_o those_o time_n as_o now_o there_o be_v to_o the_o former_a it_o be_v answer_v 1._o that_o these_o circumstance_n be_v not_o render_v as_o reason_n of_o abolish_n the_o brazen_a serpent_n in_o the_o text_n but_o invent_v by_o the_o def._n true_a say_v the_o rej._n yet_o any_o man_n may_v conceive_v that_o they_o may_v be_v 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a_o fashion_n answer_v the_o first_o answer_n be_v that_o the_o apostle_n there_o speak_v only_o of_o jewish_a rite_n which_o be_v bellarmine_n answer_n just_a de_fw-fr eff_fw-mi sacr_n c._n 32._o loquor_fw-la paulus_n de_fw-la servitute_fw-la judaica_n qua_fw-la servierant_fw-la illi_fw-la sub_fw-la antiqua_fw-la lege_fw-la the_o second_o answer_n be_v that_o the_o apostle_n meaning_n be_v of_o such_o a_o observation_n of_o these_o ceremony_n as_o have_v a_o opinion_n of_o necessity_n overthrow_v the_o new_a testament_n and_o establish_v the_o old_a so_o bellarmin_n ibid._n illi_fw-la cum_fw-la circumcidi_fw-la vellent_fw-la excidebant_fw-la à _fw-la gratia_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o simul_fw-la obligabant_fw-la fe_o ad_fw-la omnem_fw-la legem_fw-la servandam_fw-la quod_fw-la prorsus_fw-la erat_fw-la redire_fw-la ad_fw-la statum_fw-la veteris_fw-la testamâ—nti_fw-la we_o on_o the_o other_o side_n with_o danaeus_n against_o thaâ—_n place_n of_o bell._n say_v generale_fw-mi est_fw-fr 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in_o vain_a for_o i_o to_o allege_v our_o divine_n in_o this_o quaestion_n the_o abridgement_n allege_v diverse_a
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that_o a_o multitute_n of_o popish_a ceremony_n have_v no_o other_o nature_n &_o necessity_n allow_v unto_o they_o by_o the_o learned_a papist_n then_o we_o have_v by_o the_o defendant_n himself_o see_v for_o this_o bellarmine_n the_o effect_n sacr_n c._n 30._o that_o which_o m_n r._n calvin_n say_v of_o this_o point_n be_v true_a notwithstanding_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o conceit_n which_o be_v common_o among_o the_o simple_a papist_n foster_v by_o unlearned_a monk_n friar_n and_o other_o priest_n for_o filthy_a lucre_n sake_n 2._o the_o comparison_n which_o m_n r._n calvin_n use_v viz._n that_o it_o be_v hold_v among_o the_o papist_n a_o great_a wickedness_n to_o omit_v auricular_a confession_n then_o to_o live_v impious_o eat_v flesh_n on_o fast_a day_n then_o to_o live_v in_o fornication_n to_o work_v on_o saint_n holy_a day_n then_o to_o act_v mischief_n etc._n etc._n these_o he_o gather_v principal_o from_o that_o practice_n of_o the_o papist_n whereby_o they_o punish_v more_o 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