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A70924 Romes destruction, or, Expresse texts and necessary consequences drawn out of the word of God, for the condemning of the doctrine of the Roman church, and justifying of that of the reformed churches first written in French, by C.D.R., a French noble-man ; and now published in English, at the solicitation of divers religious men of this nation by Jam. Mountaine. C. D. R.; Mountaine, James. 1641 (1641) Wing R11; ESTC R10609 52,610 234

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should say I have a Crown It were no good Consequence to say Therfore he hath but one Crown But this answer comes from a grosse ignorance For that is not to be able to judge of what is Consequent to a thing and what is not Let him learn therefore by the same example he produceth that if we aske one How much mony have you in your purse and he answereth Categorically I have one Crown the Consequent is good Therefore you have but one Crown in your purse Even so I aske how many Advocates we have with God and reading the whole Word of God I finde that it shews me but one Advocate with God which is Christ Jesus The Consequence is good then Therefore we have but one Advocate with God which is Christ Jesus our Lord It is then our Jesuits part to study Master du Moulins Logick whereunto he sends me seeing he sheweth himself so ignorant therin that he may learn better how to judge of Consequences Moreover God will not give his glory unto another I am saith he the Lord such is my name I will not give my Glory unto another nor my prayse unto the Idol Esay 42. 8. He would not have us then to give unto the creatures that Invocation which belongeth unto him Whereby it doth appeare That this Invocation of Saints departed is wholly and absolutely contrary unto the Word of God having no other end but to give un the creature the honour and glory that belongeth onely unto the Creator CHAP. IX That the Images of the Roman Church are made against the Commandement of God and that the adoration which they give unto them is meere Idolatry AS for the Images of the RomanChurch It is certaine that they are made directly against the Commandement of God as I have shewed before which in the second Commandement of the Law saith Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven Image of any thing that is in Heaven above c. Exod. 20. 4. And in another place Ye shall make you no Idols nor graven Image neither reare you up a standing Image neither shall you set up any Image of stone in your Land to how down unto it for I am the Lord your God Levit. 26. 1. Our Adversaries doe answer That God hath forbidden Images for to worship them but not as touching the representation But I will even in that shew that they transgresse the Commandement of God and commit Idolatry For if they cause Images to be erected for to worship them It followeth that they swerve from the Commandement of God and that they are Idolaters But the first is true I prove it by the second Councell of Nice That commandeth straightly to have Images and to worship them Besides let any man see the books of their Schoolemen upon this point of Images and they shall finde them all reach That the Image ought to be worshipped with the Imagined making but one adoration of the Image and of the thing represented by the Image When they see themselves convinced by their owne Decrees Books and Canons they say That the Error is not in the worshipping by means of the Images but by them to worship false gods as the Pagans did but as for them they by means of the Images worship the true God I answer By this reason the Israelits did well to make the Golden calfe and Moses very ill in breaking of it For these Calves thought to worship the true God by means of that calfe Exod. 32. 5. 6. Ezekias had likewise done ill in taking away the Brasen Serpent for this people thought to worship the true God by burning Incense to it 2. King 18. 4. and yet God had commanded it should be set up But it would puzzle our Adversaries vilely to shew us one expresse place in the Word of God wherein it is commanded to make Images of God for to worship him by them These men are like unto those Idolaters which the King of Assyria sent to inhabit the Cities of Samaria in stead of the Children of Israel whom he had brought into Babylon Who feared the Lord and served their graven Images 2. King 17. 32. 33. 41. Again these Doctors alledge That they worship their Images distinctly that is the Images of God with the adoration of Latria and the Images of Saints with Dulia Item That they make their adoration passe unto the finall object and therefore they are no Idolaters But that will not serve their turn For whosoever giveth unto the creature that worship which belongeth unto the Creator is an Idolater But the Doctors of the Roman Church confesse they give unto the Image which blasphemously they say to be of God the Adoration that belongeth to God Therefore they are Idolaters Neither can they escape in alledging that their Adoration passeth to the finall object For to worship the creature with the Creator is manifest Idolatry And indeed were it not Idolatry to worship Images of Gold of Silver of Wood and Stone with God with the same Adoration that belongeth to God And to say that the Adoration passeth unto the finall object is as vain For the Image being then first worshipped at least partaketh with the Adoration which is meere Idolatry Now these Doctors telling us for a shift That the Adoration passeth to the finall object in that confesse under-hand tacitely that they are Idolaters worshipping Wood and Stone which is the first object of their adoration which is an abomination unto the Lord who calleth himselfe a jealous God and that cannot endure we should any manner of way give unto the creature the honour which is due unto Him Many in the Roman Church that are not well instructed in the Doctrine of their Doctors think assuredly that the adoration of Images is Dulia and the adoration of the things imagined or represented to be Latria But that is not their Doctrine For they make but one adoration both of the Image and of the thing represented by the Image If we worship God saith Panigarole in his lessons pag. 439. by means of the Image God and the Image are both worshipped with one adoration of Latria And if by means of the Image we worship the Saint both the Saint and the Image are worshipped with one Adoration of Dulia But it will never be proved That the worship of the Image is Dulia and that of the Imagined or represented by the Image is Latria because both are but one Adoration These are the very words of this Doctor In fine We aske of our Adversaries one expresse text out of the Word of God or any one necessary Consequence drawne out of the same where it is commanded to make Images of God to worship him by them That puts them into a grievous rage and makes them presently to fall to rayling instead of answering We aske them again who hath told them that God may be represented by Images of Gold Silver Wood and Stone God is a Spirit saith Christ and