Selected quad for the lemma: reason_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
reason_n	image_n	worship_n	worship_v	2,495	5	9.2639	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A15732	Whyte dyed black. Or A discouery of many most foule blemishes, impostures, and deceiptes, which D. Whyte haith practysed in his book entituled The way to the true Church Deuyded into 3 sortes Corruptions, or deprauations. Lyes. Impertinencies, or absurd reasoninges. Writen by T.W. p. And dedicated to the Vniuersity of Cambridge. Cum priuilegio.	Worthington, Thomas, 1549-1627.	1615 (1615)	STC 26001; ESTC S120302	117,026	210

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with_o that_o worship_n which_o be_v meet_v or_o they_o deserve_v so_o that_o i_o can_v wish_v our_o needy_a minister_n to_o be_v better_a advysed_a hereafter_o in_o his_o citinge_n of_o s._n gregory_n against_o catholic_n religion_n the_o 5_o paragraph_n the_o council_n of_o eliberis_n corrupt_v against_o image_n here_o now_o i_o be_o come_v to_o the_o last_o corruption_n which_o i_o intend_v to_o display_v the_o which_o i_o have_v purposely_o reserve_v therewith_o to_o close_v up_o the_o tai_v of_o my_o reader_n so_o notorious_a it_o be_v for_o the_o author_n deprave_a and_o so_o pregnant_a and_o dextrous_a in_o the_o conveyance_n as_o touch_v the_o first_o whearas_o every_o one_o of_o the_o former_a depravation_n those_o of_o the_o rhemiste_n only_o except_v rest_v in_o abuse_v the_o authority_n of_o some_o one_o particular_a man_n this_o stryke_v at_o a_o whole_a

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that_o unfortunate_a &_o wicked_a monk_n the_o 19_o untruth_n in_o defence_n of_o preiste_n marriage_n page_n 343._o the_o doctor_n much_o apologize_v &_o defend_v the_o marriage_n of_o the_o clergy_n affirm_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n hould_v contrary_a herein_o to_o that_o which_o be_v teach_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n now_o for_o the_o trial_n of_o this_o falsehood_n let_v we_o concur_v to_o that_o which_o be_v confess_v by_o our_o learned_a adversaty_n concern_v the_o same_o first_o then_o cartwright_n confess_v 485._o of_o the_o first_o council_n of_o nyce_n which_o be_v celebrate_v in_o the_o 3._o century_n or_o age_n after_o christ_n that_o it_o teach_v that_o unto_o those_o which_o be_v choose_v into_o the_o ministry_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o take_v a_o wife_n afterwards_o only_o be_v marry_v before_o entrance_n into_o the_o ministry_n it_o be_v lawful_a for_o they_o to_o use_v the_o benefit_n of_o the_o precedent_a marriage_n in_o like_o sort_n m._n jewel_n 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copulation_n the_o 20_o untruth_n against_o image_n page_n 344._o inueigh_v much_o against_o the_o religious_a use_n of_o image_n among_o other_o thing_n he_o say_v according_a to_o the_o title_n of_o that_o his_o digression_n that_o touch_v image_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n hould_v contrary_a to_o that_o former_o be_v houlden_v and_o after_o allege_v that_o the_o ancient_a christian_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n have_v no_o image_n but_o the_o contrary_a hereto_o be_v most_o true_a for_o first_o we_o find_v that_o the_o centuriste_n do_v write_v 108._o that_o lactantius_n who_o live_v in_o the_o four_o century_n or_o age_n affirm_v many_o superstitious_a thing_n concern_v the_o efficacy_n of_o christ_n image_n doctor_n fulke_n affirm_v 675._o that_o paulinus_n a_o very_a ancient_a author_n cause_v image_n to_o be_v paint_v on_o church_n wales_n in_o like_o sort_n touch_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n of_o which_o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n and_o ground_n the_o 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have_v alter_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n here_o for_o the_o trial_n hereof_o we_o be_v to_o appeal_v to_o the_o say_n and_o confession_n of_o his_o own_o side_n where_o we_o shall_v find_v that_o m._n whytes_n credit_n and_o estimation_n be_v particular_o in_o this_o as_o in_o the_o former_a most_o dangerous_o wonnd_v even_o by_o the_o hand_n of_o his_o own_o brother_n for_o we_o find_v it_o confess_v by_o the_o centuriste_n 496._o that_o chrisostomus_n transubstantiatiorem_fw-la with_fw-mi tur_fw-la confirmare_fw-la chrisostem_fw-la be_v think_v to_o confirm_v transubstantiation_n in_o like_o sort_n by_o the_o judgement_n of_o other_o protestants_n 211._o theophilactus_fw-la &_o dama_n cebus_o plane_n inclinant_fw-la ad_fw-la transubstantiatiorem_fw-la theophilact_n &_o d._n mascen_n do_v evident_o incline_v to_o transubstantiation_n answerable_a hereto_o occolampadius_n 3._o do_v charge_n damascen_n with_o the_o say_a doctrine_n final_o d._n h●mfrey_n write_v 5._o that_o gregory_n the_o great_a bring_v in_o transubstantiation_n in_o ecclsiam_fw-la verò_fw-la say_v he_o speak_v of_o our_o conversion_n quid_fw-la invexerunt_fw-la gregorius_n et_fw-fr augustinus_n int●l●runt_fw-la etc._n etc._n transubstantiationem_fw-la now_o i_o will_v demand_v of_o our_o minister_n with_o what_o countenance_n he_o can_v aver_v that_o in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n we_o have_v alter_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n if_o he_o observe_v what_o be_v teach_v to_o the_o contrary_a by_o his_o own_o brethren_n who_o not_o beleve_v the_o doctrine_n itself_o yet_o do_v confess_v the_o great_a antiquity_n thereof_o may_v we_o think_v that_o m._n w._n be_v ignorant_a of_o these_o father_n mind_n therein_o if_o so_o then_o be_v his_o follower_n much_o deceive_v in_o overual●ing_v his_o good_a part_n and_o literature_n and_o withal_o the_o obscurity_n of_o his_o own_o judgement_n touch_v the_o say_a father_n in_o this_o point_n haith_o thus_o 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