a_o four_o letter_n concern_v the_o sacred_a trinity_n in_o reply_n to_o what_o be_v entitle_v a_o answer_n to_o d_o r_o wallis_n three_o letter_n by_o john_n wallis_n d._n d._n london_n print_v for_o tho._n parkhurst_n at_o the_o bible_n and_o three_o crown_n in_o cheapside_n 1691._o a_o four_o letter_n concern_v the_o sacred_a trinity_n sir_n in_o a_o former_a answer_n from_o i_o know_v not_o who_o to_o my_o first_o and_o second_o letter_n we_o have_v two_o person_n a_o friend_n and_o his_o neighbour_n in_o one_o man._n of_o which_o i_o have_v give_v account_n in_o my_o three_o letter_n we_o have_v now_o a_o answer_n to_o that_o also_o but_o whether_o from_o the_o friend_n or_o the_o neighbour_n or_o from_o a_o three_o person_n he_o do_v not_o tell_v i_o yet_o all_o the_o three_o person_n may_v for_o aught_o i_o know_v be_v the_o same_o man._n however_o whether_o it_o be_v or_o be_v not_o the_o same_o man_n it_o be_v not_o amiss_o for_o he_o to_o act_v a_o three_o person_n as_o of_o a_o adversary_n as_o be_v thereby_o not_o oblige_v to_o insist_v upon_o and_o maintain_v what_o be_v before_o say_v but_o may_v fair_o decline_v it_o if_o he_o please_v the_o one_o may_v grant_v what_o the_o other_o deny_v and_o deny_v what_o the_o other_o grant_v and_o still_o as_o the_o scene_z change_n the_o man_n may_v act_n another_o person_n and_o so_o i_o find_v it_o be_v as_o for_o instance_n the_o former_a answerer_n take_v it_o unkind_o and_o will_v have_v it_o think_v a_o calumny_n that_o i_o charge_v it_o on_o some_o of_o the_o socinian_o that_o how_o clear_a soever_o the_o expression_n of_o scripture_n be_v for_o our_o purpose_n they_o will_v not_o believe_v it_o as_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o natural_a reason_n and_o though_o they_o do_v not_o think_v fit_a to_o give_v we_o a_o bare-faced_n rejection_n of_o scripture_n yet_o they_o do_v and_o must_v they_o tell_v we_o put_v such_o a_o force_a sense_n on_o the_o word_n as_o to_o make_v they_o signify_v somewhat_o else_o therefore_o to_o show_v that_o this_o be_v not_o a_o calumny_n but_o a_o clear_a truth_n i_o cite_v their_o own_o word_n and_o quote_v the_o place_n where_o they_o be_v to_o be_v find_v wherein_o themselves_o say_v the_o same_o thing_n in_o as_o full_a expression_n as_o any_o that_o i_o have_v charge_v they_o with_o that_o every_o one_o be_v to_o interpret_v the_o scripture_n according_a to_o his_o own_o sense_n and_o what_o so_o seem_v grateful_a to_o he_o he_o be_v to_o embrace_v and_o maintain_v though_o the_o whole_a world_n be_v against_o it_o that_o he_o be_v not_o to_o heed_v what_o man_n teach_v or_o think_v or_o have_v at_o any_o time_n teach_v or_o think_v whoever_o they_o be_v or_o have_v be_v or_o how_o many_o soever_o that_o though_o even_o in_o the_o sacred_a monument_n it_o be_v find_v write_v not_o once_o only_o but_o many_o time_n he_o shall_v not_o yet_o for_o all_o that_o believe_v it_o so_o to_o be_v that_o what_o plain_o appear_v can_v be_v or_o as_o be_v before_o explain_v what_o he_o think_v so_o though_o all_o the_o world_n beside_o think_v otherwise_o be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v even_o though_o in_o the_o sacred_a oracle_n it_o appear_v to_o be_v express_o affirm_v but_o those_o sacred_a word_n be_v to_o be_v interpret_v though_o it_o be_v by_o unusual_a way_n or_o trope_n to_o some_o other_o sense_n than_o what_o they_o speak_v that_o because_o it_o seem_v to_o he_o absurd_a he_o must_v with_o augustine_n good_a leave_n and_o of_o the_o rest_n who_o think_v as_o he_o do_v put_v a_o force_n how_o great_a soever_o upon_o paul_n word_n rather_o than_o to_o admit_v such_o sense_n that_o if_o our_o reason_n dictate_v to_o we_o aught_o otherwise_o than_o the_o scripture_n do_v it_o be_v a_o error_n to_o say_v that_o in_o such_o case_n we_o be_v rather_o to_o believe_v the_o scripture_n now_o our_o new_a answerer_n though_o he_o will_v still_o have_v it_o to_o be_v a_o calumny_n shuffle_n it_o off_o with_o this_o he_o be_v not_o concern_v that_o socinus_n or_o any_o other_o author_n have_v drop_v imprudent_a word_n and_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o socinian_n to_o answer_v pag._n 10._o for_o he_o be_v now_o to_o act_v the_o arian_n pag._n 11_o 12_o 14_o 16_o 17._o this_o point_n therefore_o i_o look_v upon_o as_o yield_v concern_v the_o slight_a opinion_n which_o some_o of_o the_o socinian_o have_v of_o scripture_n in_o competition_n with_o humane_a reason_n again_o when_o i_o have_v speak_v of_o our_o immortal_a soul_n in_o its_o separate_a existence_n after_o death_n as_o of_o a_o intellectual_a be_v but_o with_o a_o if_o at_o lest_o those_o who_o deny_v the_o bless_a trinity_n will_v allow_v that_o there_o be_v such_o being_n to_o show_v the_o suspicion_n intimate_v be_v not_o groundless_a i_o cite_v socinus_n own_o word_n where_o he_o express_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o soul_n after_o death_n do_v not_o subsist_v nor_o do_v so_o live_v as_o to_o be_v then_o in_o a_o capacity_n of_o be_v reward_v or_o punish_v that_o be_v in_o effect_n it_o be_v no_o more_o alive_a than_o be_v the_o dead_a body_n not_o sensible_a of_o pain_n or_o pleasure_n which_o i_o think_v be_v ground_n enough_o for_o such_o a_o suspicion_n without_o be_v uncharitable_a nor_o do_v this_o new_a answerer_n clear_a socinus_n or_o himself_o from_o this_o suspicion_n only_o tell_v we_o pag._n 10._o it_o be_v a_o insinuation_n as_o if_o they_o believe_v not_o angel_n which_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n of_o the_o soul_n be_v separate_a existence_n which_o be_v that_o i_o insist_v on_o nor_o do_v he_o so_o much_o as_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o do_v believe_v angel_n much_o less_o that_o he_o do_v believe_v the_o soul_n separate_a existence_n so_o that_o the_o ground_n of_o suspicion_n still_o remain_v i_o have_v show_v he_o how_o different_a socinus_n opinion_n be_v from_o that_o of_o st._n paul_n when_o he_o desire_v to_o be_v dissolve_v or_o to_o depart_v hence_o and_o to_o be_v with_o christ_n as_o much_o better_a for_o he_o than_o to_o abide_v in_o the_o flesh_n phil._n 1._o 23_o 24._o and_o to_o be_v absent_a from_o the_o body_n which_o must_v be_v after_o death_n and_o before_o the_o resurrection_n and_o to_o be_v present_a with_o the_o lord_n 2_o cor._n 5._o 8._o and_o this_o new_a answerer_n though_o he_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o charge_n do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o be_v not_o of_o socinus_n opinion_n herein_o which_o if_o it_o be_v so_o he_o may_v reasonable_o have_v tell_v we_o upon_o this_o occasion_n i_o may_v have_v add_v that_o of_o christ_n mat._n 10._o 28._o fear_v not_o those_o who_o kill_v the_o body_n but_o be_v not_o able_a to_o kill_v the_o soul_n whereas_o if_o the_o soul_n after_o death_n be_v as_o insensible_a as_o the_o body_n that_o be_v as_o much_o kill_v as_o this._n and_o that_o of_o christ_n to_o the_o convert_v thief_n on_o the_o cross_n luk._n 23._o 43._o this_o day_n shall_v thou_o be_v with_o i_o in_o paradise_n for_o sure_o by_o paradise_n he_o do_v not_o mean_a purgatory_n nor_o yet_o that_o he_o shall_v be_v with_o he_o in_o hell_n among_o the_o devil_n and_o the_o damn_a nor_o that_o his_o soul_n shall_v be_v in_o a_o condition_n as_o senseless_a as_o his_o body_n for_o paradise_n do_v not_o sound_a like_o any_o of_o these_o i_o may_v have_v add_v also_o that_o of_o lazarus_n and_o the_o rich_a glutton_n luk._n 16._o 23_o 24_o 25_o 28._o for_o though_o parable_n be_v not_o strong_o argumentative_a as_o to_o all_o the_o punctilio_n of_o they_o yet_o as_o to_o the_o main_a scope_n of_o they_o they_o be_v else_o to_o what_o purpose_n be_v they_o use_v now_o here_o we_o have_v that_o glutton_n represent_v as_o torment_v in_o hell_n and_o lazarus_n at_o rest_n in_o abraham_n bosom_n and_o there_o comfort_v while_o the_o other_o be_v torment_v and_o all_o this_o while_o yet_o he_o have_v brethren_n upon_o earth_n to_o who_o he_o desire_v lazarus_n may_v be_v send_v all_o which_o be_v not_o agreeable_a to_o a_o condition_n not_o capable_a of_o reward_n or_o punishment_n and_o upon_o the_o whole_a we_o have_v reason_n to_o suspect_v that_o socinian_o may_v have_v some_o other_o odd_a tenant_n which_o they_o think_v fit_a rather_o to_o conceal_v than_o to_o deny_v so_o that_o i_o look_v upon_o this_o point_n as_o gain_v also_o that_o socinus_n uncontrolled_a by_o this_o answerer_n do_v deny_v the_o subsistence_n of_o the_o soul_n after_o death_n as_o then_o capable_a of_o reward_n or_o punishment_n another_o point_n which_o i_o look_v upon_o as_o grant_v be_v concern_v that_o place_n joh._n 1._o in_o the_o beginning_n be_v the_o word_n and_o the_o word_n be_v with_o god_n and_o the_o word_n be_v
god_n and_o the_o word_n be_v make_v flesh_n and_o dwell_v among_o we_o concern_v this_o place_n we_o be_v come_v to_o this_o issue_n with_o our_o former_a answerer_n at_o his_o p._n 9_o if_o by_o word_n be_v mean_v a_o person_n pre-existent_a to_o christ_n incarnation_n by_o the_o virgin_n mary_n and_o by_o god_n be_v mean_v the_o true_a god_n or_o god_n almighty_a then_o this_o place_n be_v to_o our_o purpose_n for_o else_o he_o tell_v we_o st._n john_n write_v nonsense_n now_o that_o st._n john_n write_v nonsense_n i_o suppose_v he_o will_v not_o say_v whatever_o he_o think_v because_o he_o pretend_v a_o great_a reverence_n for_o scripture_n and_o do_v not_o take_v it_o kind_o that_o i_o shall_v suspect_v the_o contrary_n whether_o of_o the_o other_o two_o point_n he_o will_v stick_v to_o he_o do_v not_o think_v fit_a to_o tell_v we_o for_o indeed_o his_o business_n be_v not_o to_o tell_v we_o what_o he_o will_v have_v but_o what_o he_o will_v not_o have_v and_o conclude_v nothing_o thereupon_o but_o that_o the_o place_n be_v obscure_a he_o know_v not_o how_o to_o make_v it_o serve_v his_o turn_n and_o that_o it_o may_v so_o seem_v he_o endeavour_v to_o cast_v what_o dust_n he_o can_v into_o the_o spring_n and_o then_o to_o say_v the_o water_n be_v not_o clear_a i_o have_v give_v he_o my_o reason_n and_o i_o think_v they_o be_v cogent_a why_o i_o judge_v the_o place_n clear_a enough_o as_o to_o both_o point_n and_o shall_v i_o admit_v as_o i_o think_v i_o may_v that_o by_o word_n be_v mean_v somewhat_o else_o as_o he_o tell_v we_o in_o forty_o other_o place_n this_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o we_o be_v not_o here_o inquire_v what_o by_o the_o word_n logos_fw-la be_v mean_v in_o aristotle_n or_o what_o in_o plato_n or_o what_o in_o forty_o other_o place_n but_o what_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o word_n in_o this_o place_n nor_o what_o by_o god_n be_v mean_v in_o psal._n 82._o 6_o 7._o i_o have_v say_v you_o be_v god_n but_o you_o shall_v die_v like_o man_n but_o what_o by_o god_n be_v here_o mean_v where_o it_o be_v say_v the_o word_n be_v with_o god_n and_o the_o word_n be_v god_n nor_o be_v here_o any_o need_n of_o a_o rhetoric_n lecture_n to_o inquire_v by_o what_o trope_n or_o figure_n or_o with_o what_o allusion_n christ_n be_v here_o call_v the_o word_n it_o be_v enough_o that_o it_o be_v christ_n who_o be_v here_o so_o call_v and_o after_o all_o his_o toil_n i_o do_v not_o find_v that_o himself_o have_v the_o confidence_n to_o deny_v though_o he_o do_v not_o think_v fit_a to_o grant_v it_o but_o that_o here_o by_o the_o word_n be_v mean_v christ_n and_o that_o god_n here_o mention_v be_v god_n almighty_a and_o consequent_o if_o st._n john_n do_v not_o write_v nonsense_n as_o he_o be_v please_v to_o phrase_n it_o the_o place_n be_v to_o our_o purpose_n now_o our_o new_a answerer_n seem_v to_o i_o to_o quit_v the_o first_o of_o these_o point_n and_o choose_v rather_o to_o act_v the_o arian_n than_o the_o socinian_n as_o take_v that_o to_o be_v more_o defensible_a pag._n 11_o 14_o 17._o and_o do_v admit_v that_o by_o the_o word_n here_o be_v mean_v the_o person_n of_o christ_n and_o pre-existent_a to_o his_o incarnation_n as_o by_o who_o the_o world_n be_v make_v at_o least_o as_o by_o a_o instrument_n and_o do_v allow_v he_o to_o be_v god_n though_o not_o the_o same_o god_n but_o that_o the_o father_n and_o the_o word_n be_v two_o god_n p._n 17._o and_o can_v allow_v he_o the_o character_n of_o be_v over_o all_o god_n bless_v for_o ever_o and_o can_v so_o be_v as_o liberal_a of_o the_o title_n of_o god_n to_o christ_n as_o any_o trinitarian_n whatever_o p._n 16._o so_o that_o now_o the_o dispute_n be_v reduce_v to_o this_o when_o it_o be_v say_v the_o word_n meaning_n christ_n be_v with_o god_n and_o the_o word_n be_v god_n whether_o by_o god_n be_v mean_v the_o true_a god_n god_n almighty_n of_o which_o we_o be_v to_o say_v more_o anon_o another_o grant_n we_o have_v pag._n 3._o where_o he_o do_v admit_v that_o a_o thing_n may_v be_v unum_n and_o tres_n one_o and_o three_o in_o several_a respect_n and_o that_o it_o be_v true_a indeed_o he_o can_v say_v that_o there_o be_v a_o contradiction_n in_o hold_v that_o there_o may_v be_v three_o person_n in_o god_n and_o in_o grant_v this_o he_o grant_v what_o i_o undertake_v to_o prove_v for_o he_o know_v very_o well_o that_o the_o business_n which_o i_o undertake_v be_v not_o to_o discourse_v the_o whole_a controversy_n at_o large_a but_o so_o state_v the_o question_n as_o to_o confine_v it_o to_o this_o single_a point_n whether_o it_o be_v a_o impossibility_n or_o inconsistence_n with_o reason_n that_o there_o may_v be_v three_o somewhat_n which_o we_o call_v person_n which_o be_v but_o one_o god_n and_o when_o he_o grant_v i_o that_o there_o be_v in_o it_o no_o contradiction_n or_o inconsistence_n with_o reason_n all_o the_o rest_n be_v beside_o the_o question_n i_o know_v very_o well_o that_o both_o this_o and_o the_o former_a answerer_n have_v make_v it_o their_o business_n to_o change_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n and_o if_o what_o i_o bring_v to_o prove_v what_o i_o undertake_v do_v not_o prove_v the_o task_n they_o set_v i_o they_o glory_v as_o if_o they_o have_v the_o better_a but_o the_o lawyer_n tell_v we_o that_o when_o issue_n be_v once_o join_v if_o we_o prove_v the_o thing_n in_o issue_n we_o carry_v the_o cause_n and_o what_o be_v more_o than_o so_o be_v over_o and_o above_o or_o to_o spare_v and_o a_o mathematician_n if_o he_o prove_v what_o he_o propose_v conclude_v with_o quod_fw-la erat_fw-la demonstrandum_fw-la he_o have_v prove_v what_o he_o undertake_v to_o prove_v if_o he_o prove_v more_o than_o so_o it_o be_v more_o than_o he_o be_v oblige_v to_o do_v and_o if_o a_o logician_n prove_v propositionem_fw-la negatam_fw-la the_o proposition_n which_o be_v incumbent_n on_o he_o to_o prove_v he_o have_v do_v his_o work_n and_o if_o he_o prove_v more_o than_o so_o it_o be_v more_o than_o he_o need_v to_o do_v and_o according_o when_o this_o answerer_n do_v acknowledge_v that_o i_o have_v prove_v what_o i_o undertake_v to_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v no_o impossibility_n there_o be_v no_o contradiction_n nor_o inconsistence_n with_o reason_n that_o three_o somewhat_n may_v be_v one_o god_n he_o ought_v to_o acquiesce_v therein_o and_o acknowledge_v that_o i_o have_v do_v my_o work_n for_o when_o the_o controversy_n be_v divide_v into_o two_o branch_n whether_o the_o thing_n be_v true_a and_o whether_o it_o be_v possible_a and_o it_o be_v the_o latter_a of_o the_o two_o that_o i_o undertake_v if_o i_o have_v show_v it_o be_v not_o impossible_a which_o this_o answerer_n do_v grant_v that_o i_o have_v do_v i_o have_v do_v the_o work_n that_o i_o undertake_v and_o if_o this_o be_v once_o agree_v it_o go_v a_o great_a way_n as_o to_o the_o other_o branch_n that_o the_o thing_n be_v true_a for_o i_o find_v the_o last_o result_n of_o our_o adversary_n when_o they_o be_v close_o press_v be_v common_o this_o it_o be_v impossible_a it_o be_v absurd_a it_o be_v nonsense_n it_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o reason_n and_o therefore_o it_o can_v be_v true_a and_o that_o therefore_o a_o force_n no_o matter_n how_o great_a must_v be_v put_v upon_o the_o word_n which_o do_v how_o express_o soever_o affirm_v it_o to_o make_v they_o signify_v somewhat_o else_o than_o what_o they_o plain_o do_v signify_v then_o to_o admit_v it_o and_o if_o i_o have_v as_o be_v now_o confess_v destroy_v this_o last_o reserve_v let_v they_o press_v this_o point_n no_o more_o or_o if_o they_o will_v retract_v this_o grant_n let_v the_o next_o answerer_n keep_v to_o this_o point_n to_o prove_v it_o impossible_a or_o inconsistent_a with_o reason_n and_o not_o ramble_v out_o into_o other_o discourse_n which_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n of_o what_o i_o propose_v to_o prove_v among_o his_o other_o concession_n i_o shall_v reckon_v that_o in_o pag._n 14._o where_o he_o argue_v from_o joh._n 16._o 13._o that_o there_o be_v between_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n a_o distinction_n so_o great_a as_o that_o they_o may_v not_o unfit_o be_v call_v three_o person_n where_o i_o observe_v also_o that_o he_o own_v the_o personality_n of_o the_o holy-ghost_n as_o of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o son_n it_o be_v true_a indeed_o he_o seem_v to_o make_v the_o distinction_n between_o they_o great_a than_o i_o do_v but_o i_o thus_o far_o agree_v with_o he_o that_o there_o be_v in_o truth_n a_o distinction_n and_o that_o more_o than_o imaginary_a or_o what_o depend_v only_o upon_o our_o imagination_n and_o great_a than_o that_o of_o
be_v too_o mean_a too_o familiar_a he_o expect_v somewhat_o high_a somewhat_o more_o distinct_a p._n 5._o i_o see_v it_o be_v as_o hard_a a_o matter_n to_o please_v my_o two_o answerer_n as_o to_o serve_v two_o master_n the_o one_o complain_v my_o simile_n be_v not_o familiar_a enough_o the_o other_o that_o they_o be_v too_o familiar_a he_o expect_v somewhat_o more_o sublime_a these_o do_v not_o prove_v that_o a_o trinity_n in_o unity_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o perfection_n of_o the_o godhead_n p._n 6._o true_a these_o alone_o do_v not_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v a_o trinity_n in_o unity_n in_o the_o godhead_n much_o less_o do_v they_o prove_v that_o a_o trinity_n in_o unity_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o perfection_n of_o the_o godhead_n nor_o be_v they_o bring_v to_o prove_v it_o they_o be_v bring_v to_o prove_v there_o be_v no_o inconsistence_n but_o that_o there_o may_v be_v a_o trinity_n in_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o godhead_n and_o if_o they_o prove_v thus_o much_o he_o perhaps_o may_v have_v cause_n to_o be_v ashamed_a but_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o i_o shall_v be_v ashamed_a or_o any_o one_o for_o i_o now_o that_o they_o prove_v thus_o much_o he_o have_v already_o grant_v that_o a_o thing_n may_v be_v one_o and_o three_o in_o divers_a respect_n and_o that_o it_o be_v no_o contradiction_n to_o hold_v that_o there_o may_v be_v three_o person_n in_o god_n they_o have_v prove_v therefore_o what_o they_o be_v bring_v to_o prove_v but_o say_v he_o p._n 5._o our_o debate_n be_v not_o whether_o there_o may_v be_v three_o person_n in_o god_n yes_o our_o debate_n be_v whether_o there_o may_v be_v not_o whether_o there_o be._n and_o he_o know_v the_o question_n be_v so_o state_v by_o i_o and_o so_o acknowledge_v by_o himself_o upon_o this_o single_a point_n whether_o there_o be_v any_o impossibility_n in_o it_o and_o so_o own_a by_o himself_o p._n 1_o not_o whether_o it_o be_v so_o for_o this_o i_o have_v before_o say_v be_v not_o to_o be_v argue_v upon_o the_o topick_n of_o reason_n alone_o but_o whether_o it_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o common_a notion_n of_o humane_a reason_n that_o it_o may_v be_v so_o and_o if_o this_o be_v the_o question_n as_o he_o own_v and_o this_o be_v prove_v as_o he_o own_v also_o then_o i_o have_v prove_v what_o i_o undertake_v to_o prove_v and_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o be_v ashamed_a either_o of_o the_o undertake_n or_o of_o the_o proof_n it_o be_v our_o new_a answerer_n who_o do_v witting_o and_o willing_o mis-state_n the_o question_n that_o be_v at_o cross_a purpose_n while_o he_o apply_v those_o argument_n to_o one_o point_n which_o he_o know_v be_v bring_v to_o prove_v another_o which_o point_n himself_o grant_v to_o be_v prove_v he_o can_v say_v there_o be_v a_o contradiction_n in_o it_o pag._n 6._o and_o then_o complain_v that_o they_o alone_o do_v not_o prove_v what_o they_o be_v never_o bring_v to_o prove_v of_o like_a nature_n be_v that_o other_o point_n where_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o we_o do_v now_o venture_v to_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o common_a notion_n of_o humane_a reason_n that_o be_v not_o inconsistent_a with_o it_o and_o we_o do_v so_o but_o he_o will_v have_v it_o think_v that_o it_o be_v but_o now_o of_o late_a that_o any_o have_v presume_v to_o this_o confidence_n pag._n 1_o 2._o and_o will_v have_v we_o content_a modest_o to_o acknowledge_v it_o a_o mere_a mystery_n and_o to_o rely_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n and_o tradition_n without_o pretend_v that_o it_o be_v agreeable_a to_o reason_n now_o that_o there_o be_v in_o it_o a_o mystery_n we_o ready_o grant_v and_o so_o there_o be_v in_o the_o whole_a doctrine_n of_o our_o redemption_n god_n manifest_v in_o the_o flesh_n etc._n etc._n 1_o tim._n 3._o 16._o as_o that_o which_o without_o revelation_n we_o can_v not_o have_v find_v out_o by_o mere_a reason_n and_o that_o it_o be_v above_o reason_n that_o be_v more_o than_o what_o reason_n alone_o can_v have_v teach_v we_o but_o not_o that_o it_o be_v against_o reason_n or_o inconsistent_a with_o it_o this_o be_v not_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinitarian_n nor_o ever_o be_v that_o i_o know_v of_o nor_o be_v it_o tradition_n only_o or_o the_o church_n authority_n but_o the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n that_o we_o rely_v upon_o which_o be_v a_o true_a not_o a_o lie_a revelation_n nor_o be_v it_o as_o he_o pretend_v a_o new_a doctrine_n not_o raise_v till_o several_a hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n as_o if_o the_o doctrine_n be_v to_o be_v date_v from_o the_o time_n of_o pen_v the_o athanasian_n creed_n but_o as_o old_a at_o least_o as_o the_o new_a testament_n and_o never_o contest_v that_o i_o know_v of_o till_o several_a hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n when_o the_o arian_n arise_v but_o here_o again_o my_o answerer_n be_v not_o agree_v so_o hard_o it_o be_v to_o please_v they_o both_o while_o one_o complain_v it_o be_v but_o of_o late_a the_o other_o tell_v i_o it_o be_v old-fashioned_a in_o his_o p._n 9_o thus_o dr._n wallis_n may_v see_v that_o his_o notion_n concern_v the_o trinity_n be_v old-fashioned_a not_o of_o a_o new_a mode_n and_o true_o i_o take_v he_o to_o be_v more_o in_o the_o right_a that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o new_a quirk_n but_o old-fashioned_a doctrine_n and_o i_o like_v it_o never_o the_o worse_o for_o be_v so_o as_o to_o what_o i_o have_v say_v of_o joh._n 17._o 3._o it_o be_v more_o than_o forty_o year_n and_o well_o towards_o fifty_o since_o i_o first_o preach_v it_o in_o london_n on_o that_o text_n as_o i_o have_v since_o do_v there_o and_o elsewhere_o more_o than_o once_o and_o i_o do_v not_o then_o take_v it_o to_o be_v new_a but_o what_o i_o have_v be_v always_o teach_v and_o as_o to_o that_o of_o the_o three_o dimension_n in_o a_o cube_n it_o be_v forty_o year_n or_o more_o since_o i_o first_o discourse_v it_o at_o oxford_n with_o dr._n ward_n than_o astronomy-professor_n there_o and_o since_o bishop_n of_o salisbury_n and_o as_o to_o the_o doctrine_n in_o general_n of_o three_o person_n in_o one_o god_n it_o be_v no_o new_a than_o the_o new_a testament_n but_o here_o again_o our_o answerer_n forsake_v the_o question_n for_o the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o it_o be_v a_o new_a or_o old_a adventure_n but_o whether_o it_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o reason_n that_o three_o may_v be_v one_o or_o as_o he_o word_v it_o p._n 3_o that_o a_o trinity_n in_o unity_n be_v absurd_a another_o piece_n of_o the_o same_o art_n it_o be_v where_o my_o word_n of_o personality_n be_v by_o he_o change_v for_o personation_n p._n 5_o 6._o for_o which_o i_o will_v not_o have_v quarrel_v with_o he_o if_o by_o change_v the_o word_n he_o have_v not_o mean_v to_o change_v the_o sense_n also_o for_o to_o personate_v a_o man_n he_o tell_v we_o p._n 6._o be_v but_o to_o compose_v one_o action_n in_o likeness_n of_o he_o and_o that_o one_o can_v personate_v three_o together_o but_o one_o after_o another_o but_o my_o personality_n he_o know_v be_v more_o than_o this_o personation_n it_o be_v not_o only_o act_v a_o person_n but_o be_v a_o person_n a_o man_n may_v successive_o personate_v or_o act_n the_o person_n of_o a_o king_n and_o a_o father_n without_o be_v either_o this_o or_o that_o but_o when_o the_o same_o man_n be_v both_o a_o king_n and_o a_o father_n which_o he_o may_v be_v at_o the_o same_o time_n as_o well_o as_o successive_o this_o be_v more_o than_o only_o to_o act_n they_o and_o if_o by_o personation_n he_o mean_v no_o more_o than_o act_v a_o person_n i_o wonder_v how_o he_o can_v tell_v we_o p._n 5._o that_o personation_n be_v the_o great_a perfection_n of_o be_v and_o that_o he_o never_o can_v apprehend_v any_o other_o real_a unity_n but_o personation_n what_o no_o real_a unity_n but_o act_v a_o person_n by_o imitation_n sure_o there_o be_v the_o bottom_n and_o top_n and_o middle_a of_o a_o mountain_n be_v one_o mountain_n yet_o i_o do_v not_o take_v mount_n atlas_n to_o be_v a_o person_n or_o to_o act_n a_o person_n much_o less_o to_o become_v one_o mountain_n by_o personation_n or_o act_v a_o person_n of_o like_a nature_n be_v it_o where_o to_o do_v i_o a_o kindness_n he_o will_v state_n my_o cube_n more_o to_o my_o purpose_n p._n 5._o meaning_n the_o contrary_a but_o how_o in_o a_o marble_n cube_n may_v be_v two_o accident_n hardness_n and_o coldness_n there_o may_v be_v so_o but_o what_o then_o then_o he_o say_v here_o be_v three_o cube_n more_o for_o i_o he_o will_v have_v it_o think_v i_o suppose_v that_o i_o have_v before_o discourse_v of_o three_o cube_n whereas_o i_o speak_v but_o of_o one_o cube_n under_o three_o dimension_n and_o
he_o will_v now_o help_v i_o to_o another_o three_o but_o he_o be_v out_o again_o for_o the_o cold_a cube_n the_o hard_a cube_n and_o the_o marble_n cube_n be_v but_o one_o cube_n not_o three_o cube_n it_o be_v the_o same_o cube_n that_o be_v cold_a and_o hard_a and_o marble_n it_o will_v have_v be_v much_o the_o same_o if_o instead_o of_o a_o cube_n he_o have_v take_v a_o marble_n bowl_n or_o ball_n and_o then_o tell_v i_o it_o be_v cold_a and_o hard_a and_o round_o true_a and_o yet_o it_o be_v but_o one_o bowl_n not_o three_o bowl_n one_o ball_n not_o three_o ball_n and_o what_o be_v there_o in_o all_o this_o of_o inconsistent_a absurdity_n it_o seem_v to_o i_o very_o consistent_a not_o absurd_a and_o it_o suit_v my_o notion_n very_o well_o but_o say_v he_o p._n 5._o not_o to_o suppose_v the_o simile_n altogether_o impertinent_a very_o well_o yet_o it_o be_v in_o our_o case_n why_o in_o our_o case_n for_o our_o debate_n he_o say_v be_v not_o whether_o there_o may_v not_o be_v three_o person_n in_o god_n yes_o that_o be_v our_o debate_n and_o the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o question_n all_o his_o other_o excursion_n be_v beside_o the_o question_n but_o the_o simile_n though_o not_o impertinent_a be_v yet_o he_o say_v most_o absurd_a because_o not_o adequate_a and_o it_o be_v a_o general_a rule_n with_o he_o p._n 6._o where_o he_o bring_v a_o simile_n to_o have_v it_o adequate_a that_o it_o may_v real_o prove_v the_o matter_n design_v now_o that_o my_o simile_n be_v not_o adequate_a so_o as_o to_o prove_v all_o that_o be_v to_o be_v say_v of_o god_n or_o the_o bless_a trinity_n i_o have_v tell_v he_o at_o first_o and_o more_o than_o once_o and_o that_o they_o be_v not_o intend_v so_o to_o be_v and_o i_o tell_v he_o now_o that_o i_o do_v purposely_o make_v choice_n of_o such_o as_o be_v a_o great_a way_n off_o that_o it_o may_v not_o seem_v as_o if_o i_o will_v have_v they_o think_v to_o be_v adequate_a as_o to_o all_o that_o be_v to_o be_v say_v of_o the_o trinity_n and_o as_o to_o the_o rule_n he_o go_v by_o perhaps_o it_o may_v be_v his_o method_n where_o much_o be_v to_o be_v prove_v to_o prove_v it_o all_o at_o once_o and_o take_v all_o argument_n to_o be_v absurd_a which_o do_v not_o at_o once_o prove_v all._n but_o we_o who_o be_v conversant_a in_o cube_n and_o demonstration_n as_o he_o phrase_v it_o think_v fit_a sometime_o to_o use_v another_o method_n and_o where_o much_o be_v to_o be_v prove_v to_o proceed_v by_o step_n we_o first_o propose_v one_o thing_n and_o prove_v that_o then_o another_o and_o prove_v that_o and_o so_o on_o and_o if_o what_o be_v bring_v to_o prove_v the_o first_o step_n do_v prove_v what_o it_o be_v bring_v to_o prove_v we_o do_v not_o say_v the_o argument_n be_v absurd_a because_o it_o do_v not_o prove_v all_o at_o once_o but_o that_o it_o be_v a_o good_a argument_n so_o far_o and_o i_o think_v if_o he_o will_v here_o give_v i_o leave_v to_o use_v a_o simile_n which_o be_v not_o adequate_a it_o be_v a_o method_n use_v by_o other_o man_n as_o well_o as_o mathematician_n for_o if_o a_o man_n be_v to_o mount_v a_o pair_n of_o stair_n we_o do_v not_o say_v the_o first_o step_n be_v absurd_a because_o that_o alone_o do_v not_o bring_v he_o to_o the_o top_n or_o if_o to_o go_v a_o journey_n that_o the_o first_o step_n be_v absurd_a because_o it_o do_v not_o bring_v he_o to_o his_o journey_n end_v but_o the_o first_o step_n bring_v he_o so_o far_o and_o the_o second_o somewhat_o far_o and_o so_o on_o till_o step_z by_z step_z he_o come_v to_o the_o top_n or_o to_o his_o journey_n end_n now_o there_o be_v divers_a point_n concern_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n i_o state_v my_o question_n not_o so_o as_o to_o prove_v all_o at_o once_o but_o single_v out_o this_o one_o point_n that_o it_o be_v not_o inconsistent_a with_o reason_n or_o to_o use_v his_o own_o word_n it_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o common_a notion_n of_o humane_a reason_v that_o what_o in_o one_o consideration_n be_v three_o may_v in_o another_o consideration_n be_v one_o and_o that_o there_o may_v be_v three_o somewhat_o be_v which_o be_v one_o god_n but_o whether_o indeed_o there_o be_v so_o be_v another_o step_n and_o whether_o these_o somewhat_o be_v may_n fit_o be_v call_v person_n be_v yet_o another_o now_o if_o i_o have_v make_v good_a my_o first_o step_n my_o argument_n or_o simile_n be_v not_o only_o not_o altogether_o impertinent_a but_o neither_o be_v it_o most_o absurd_a yea_o not_o absurd_a at_o all_o because_o it_o prove_v what_o it_o be_v bring_v to_o prove_v and_o that_o so_o it_o do_v himself_o allow_v and_o tell_v we_o plain_o p._n 3._o he_o can_v say_v there_o be_v a_o contradiction_n in_o hold_v that_o there_o may_v be_v three_o person_n in_o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o i_o find_v he_o will_v fain_o be_v upon_o another_o point_n p._n 4._o and_o draw_v i_o to_o it_o a_o point_n not_o to_o be_v argue_v upon_o the_o topick_n of_o reason_n only_o for_o reason_v alone_o can_v go_v no_o further_o than_o to_o prove_v it_o possible_a or_o not_o inconsistent_a but_o to_o be_v argue_v from_o scripture_n and_o divine_a revelation_n whether_o indeed_o there_o be_v three_o somewhat_n which_o we_o call_v person_n that_o be_v but_o one_o god_n but_o this_o i_o have_v tell_v he_o already_o be_v beside_o the_o question_n which_o i_o undertake_v and_o in_o this_o it_o be_v he_o that_o be_v the_o aggressor_n not_o i_o and_o i_o only_o upon_o the_o defence_n yet_o because_o he_o be_v so_o desirous_a of_o it_o i_o be_o content_a to_o go_v somewhat_o out_o of_o my_o way_n to_o wait_v on_o he_o and_o to_o hear_v what_o he_o have_v to_o say_v why_o we_o shall_v think_v that_o be_v not_o which_o he_o confess_v may_v be_v without_o any_o contradiction_n to_o natural_a reason_n and_o i_o shall_v take_v notice_n as_o i_o go_v along_o what_o it_o be_v wherein_o we_o agree_v as_o well_o as_o wherein_o we_o differ_v that_o so_o we_o may_v not_o quarrel_v about_o what_o be_v agree_v between_o we_o he_o begin_v with_o the_o first_o commandment_n p._n 1_o 2_o 3_o 4._o and_o seem_v mighty_o to_o dread_v the_o gild_n of_o idolatry_n in_o admit_v more_o god_n than_o one_o our_o case_n be_v we_o be_v afraid_a of_o idolatry_n p._n 9_o contrary_a to_o this_o commandment_n of_o have_v no_o other_o god_n and_o so_o i_o will_v have_v he_o be_v but_o we_o shall_v find_v this_o fear_n will_v be_v over_o with_o he_o by_o and_o by_o what_o say_v he_o be_v that_o commandment_n make_v for_o what!_o to_o prevent_v polytheism_n why_o how_o be_v that_o to_o be_v do_v by_o deny_v many_o go_n if_o it_o be_v not_o make_v to_o deny_v personal_a god_n it_o be_v make_v to_o no_o purpose_n and_o soon_o after_o with_o some_o indignation_n what!_o be_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n imply_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n it_o be_v deny_v in_o the_o first_o commandment_n and_o p._n 9_o pray_v what_o scripture_n shall_v we_o regard_v in_o competition_n with_o this_o commandment_n write_v by_o the_o finger_n of_o god_n and_o one_o of_o the_o only_a precept_n he_o himself_o immediate_o deliver_v now_o i_o be_o so_o far_o from_o dislike_a his_o zeal_n for_o the_o first_o commandment_n that_o i_o do_v perfect_o agree_v with_o what_o i_o find_v in_o that_o commandment_n i_o be_o the_o lord_n thy_o god_n the_o lord_n god_n of_o israel_n thou_o shall_v have_v no_o other_o god_n but_o me._n and_o this_o i_o shall_v desire_v he_o to_o remember_v by_o and_o by_o he_o may_v add_v that_o of_o deut._n 6_o 7._o for_o in_o this_o i_o agree_v also_o hear_v o_o israel_n the_o lord_n our_o god_n the_o lord_n god_n of_o israel_n be_v one_o lord_n and_o that_o of_o mat._n 4._o 10._o thou_o shall_v worship_v the_o lord_n thy_o god_n the_o lord_n god_n of_o israel_n and_o he_o only_o shall_v thou_o serve_v and_o that_o of_o 1_o cor._n 8._o 6._o to_o we_o there_o be_v but_o one_o god_n and_o as_o many_o more_o place_n as_o he_o please_v to_o that_o purpose_n and_o from_o all_o these_o i_o do_v agree_v that_o we_o be_v to_o have_v but_o one_o god_n and_o no_o more_o not_o two_o go_n no_o other_o god_n than_o the_o lord_n god_n of_o israel_n that_o we_o be_v to_o worship_v he_o alone_o and_o none_o else_o not_o satan_n not_o the_o god_n of_o ekron_n not_o any_o god_n or_o man_n or_o angel_n who_o be_v not_o the_o lord_n god_n of_o israel_n for_o all_o this_o i_o grant_v to_o be_v there_o full_o teach_v and_o i_o be_o willing_a to_o put_v as_o great_a weight_n upon_o this_o solemn_a set_a precept_n
do_v deserve_o lie_v so_o great_a a_o stress_n as_o we_o hear_v before_o what_o be_v it_o make_v for_o if_o not_o to_o prevent_v polytheism_n how_o shall_v it_o be_v do_v but_o by_o deny_v many_o god_n if_o not_o to_o deny_v personal_a god_n it_o be_v make_v to_o no_o purpose_n how_o be_v it_o consistent_a with_o that_o first_o commandment_n that_o solemn_a and_o set_a precept_n of_o the_o first_o commandment_n that_o be_v deliver_v by_o god_n himself_o write_v by_o the_o finger_n of_o god_n and_o never_o abrogate_a to_o bring_v in_o new_a person_n to_o add_v person_n one_o or_o more_o to_o this_o only_a god_n though_o particular_o prohibit_v and_o not_o break_v it_o what!_o be_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n imply_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n it_o be_v deny_v in_o the_o first_o commandment_n if_o he_o be_v not_o the_o same_o god_n who_o be_v there_o mean_v and_o pray_v what_o scripture_n shall_v we_o regard_v in_o competition_n with_o this_o commandment_n with_o more_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n whether_o he_o will_v make_v use_n of_o the_o popish_a distinction_n of_o latria_n and_o doulia_fw-la for_o his_o two_o god_n not_o coequal_a i_o can_v tell_v but_o the_o commandment_n say_v express_o thou_o shall_v have_v no_o other_o god_n but_o i_o equal_a or_o unequal_a nor_o do_v this_o error_n end_v here_o as_o he_o proceed_v for_o our_o adversary_n be_v not_o always_o so_o lucky_a as_o to_o see_v consequence_n for_o shall_v some_o revelation_n such_o as_o he_o say_v be_v not_o impossible_a deify_v more_o man_n than_o ever_o the_o heathen_a do_v here_o be_v no_o fence_n leave_v here_o be_v room_n enough_o to_o thrust_v in_o his_o jupiter_n bacchus_n venus_n etc._n etc._n of_o which_o he_o tell_v we_o p._n 8._o and_o it_o be_v in_o vain_a he_o tell_v we_o in_o such_o a_o case_n to_o pretend_v that_o the_o number_n will_v be_v of_o offence_n to_o we_o for_o if_o we_o consider_v aright_o there_o be_v no_o more_o reason_n for_o one_o number_n than_o another_o and_o he_o think_v that_o if_o there_o be_v more_o than_o one_o it_o be_v more_o honourable_a they_o shall_v be_v infinite_n because_o all_o between_o one_o and_o infinite_a be_v imperfect_a with_o much_o more_o of_o like_a nature_n of_o all_o which_o i_o know_v not_o what_o better_a to_o think_v than_o that_o he_o have_v forget_v all_o this_o when_o afterward_o at_o p._n 17._o he_o will_v have_v these_o two_o god_n as_o he_o call_v they_o to_o wit_n the_o father_n and_o the_o word_n not_o to_o be_v one_o but_o two_o and_o separate_a nor_o will_v it_o excuse_v the_o matter_n to_o say_v that_o this_o other_o god_n be_v not_o coequal_a with_o the_o father_n for_o at_o this_o rate_n the_o polytheism_n or_o many_o god_n of_o the_o heathen_a will_v be_v excuse_v as_o out_o of_o the_o reach_n of_o this_o commandment_n for_o they_o do_v not_o make_v all_o their_o god_n coequal_a to_o their_o great_a jupiter_n nor_o perhaps_o any_o of_o they_o equal_a to_o our_o god_n but_o jupiter_n be_v their_o god_n paramount_n and_o the_o rest_n be_v either_o middling_a god_n or_o lesser_a go_n but_o yet_o this_o do_v not_o excuse_v they_o from_o polytheism_n and_o idolatry_n within_o the_o reach_n of_o the_o first_o commandment_n for_o that_o commandment_n that_o unrepealed_a law_n forbid_v all_o other_o god_n whether_o equal_a or_o unequal_a the_o leek_n and_o onion_n in_o egypt_n which_o be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v there_o worship_v as_o well_o as_o the_o calf_n at_o dan_n and_o bethel_n nor_o be_v it_o less_o idolatry_n nor_o less_o within_o the_o reach_n of_o this_o commandment_n to_o worship_n the_o god_n of_o ekron_n because_o not_o coequal_a to_o the_o god_n of_o israel_n we_o therefore_o choose_v to_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v indeed_o god_n as_o he_o be_v express_o call_v joh._n 1._o 1._o the_o word_n be_v with_o god_n and_o the_o word_n be_v god_n and_o hebr._n 1._o 8._o thy_o throne_n o_o god_n endure_v for_o ever_o and_o in_o many_o other_o place_n and_o not_o only_o a_o man_n extraordinary_o assist_v by_o god_n as_o this_o answerer_n grant_v also_o at_o p._n 14._o that_o he_o be_v in_o the_o beginning_n and_o in_o the_o beginning_n be_v with_o god_n joh._n 1._o 1_o 2._o and_o therefore_o be_v pre-existent_a before_o his_o incarnation_n and_o do_v not_o then_o begin_v to_o bebritia_n that_o he_o be_v in_o the_o beginning_n and_o all_o thing_n be_v make_v by_o he_o and_o without_o he_o be_v not_o any_o thing_n make_v that_o be_v make_v that_o the_o world_n be_v make_v by_o he_o joh._n 1._o 3._o 10._o and_o be_v therefore_o the_o same_o god_n who_o in_o the_o beginning_n create_v the_o heaven_n and_o the_o earth_n gen._n 1._o 1._o that_o of_o he_o it_o be_v say_v thou_o lord_n in_o the_o begin_n have_v lay_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o earth_n and_o the_o heaven_n be_v the_o work_n of_o thy_o hand_n heb._n 1._o 8_o 10._o cite_v out_o of_o psal._n 102._o 25._o and_o be_v therefore_o the_o same_o god_n to_o who_o that_o long_a prayer_n psal._n 102._o be_v make_v and_o of_o who_o so_o many_o great_a thing_n be_v there_o say_v and_o which_o can_v belong_v to_o any_o but_o the_o supreme_a god_n and_o no_o doubt_v but_o when_o this_o be_v there_o say_v by_o the_o psalmist_n he_o mean_v it_o of_o that_o god_n who_o in_o the_o beginning_n create_v the_o heaven_n and_o the_o earth_n gen._n 1._o 1._o that_o he_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o be_v above_o all_o thing_n or_o the_o supreme_a be_v god_n bless_v for_o ever_o or_o the_o everblessed_n god_n rom._n 9_o 5._o which_o be_v title_n too_o high_a for_o any_o low_a than_o the_o supreme_a god_n that_o what_o be_v say_v of_o god_n indefinite_o as_o vvn_n from_o christ_n in_o particular_a rev._n 1._o 4._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o he_o which_o be_v and_o which_o be_v and_o which_o be_v to_o come_v or_o which_o shall_v be_v and_o from_o jesus_n christ_n &c._n &c._n be_v particular_o apply_v to_o jesus_n christ_n as_o his_o character_n ver._n 8._o i_o be_o alpha_n and_o omega_n the_o beginning_n and_o the_o end_v say_v the_o lord_n he_o that_o live_v and_o be_v dead_a and_o live_v for_o evermore_o ver._n 16._o which_o be_v and_o be_v and_o be_v to_o come_v the_o almighty_a that_o he_o be_v the_o true_a god_n 1_o joh._n 5._o 20._o and_o therefore_o the_o same_o god_n with_o the_o father_n who_o be_v the_o only_a true_a god_n joh._n 17._o 3._o and_o no_o other_o true_a god_n but_o what_o he_o be_v that_o he_o and_o the_o father_n be_v one_o joh._n 10._o 30._o that_o the_o father_n and_o the_o word_n and_o the_o spirit_n these_o three_o be_v one_o 1_o joh._n 5._o 7._o and_o christ_n not_o another_o god_n but_o the_o same_o god_n manifest_v in_o the_o flesh_n justify_v in_o the_o spirit_n see_v of_o angel_n preach_v unto_o the_o gentile_n believe_v on_o in_o the_o world_n receive_v up_o into_o glory_n 1._o tim._n 3._o 16._o now_o i_o know_v not_o well_o what_o can_v be_v say_v more_o at_o least_o what_o more_o need_v be_v say_v to_o make_v the_o point_n clear_a or_o what_o character_n he_o can_v reasonable_o desire_v more_o by_o which_o to_o describe_v the_o almighty_a supreme_a god_n and_o the_o same_o god_n with_o the_o father_n he_o be_v god_n the_o true_a god_n the_o only_a true_a god_n for_o there_o can_v be_v but_o one_o god_n that_o be_v the_o only_a true_a god_n one_a with_o the_o father_n one_o with_o the_o father_n and_o holy-ghost_n the_o eternal_a god_n who_o be_v and_o be_v and_o shall_v be_v who_o when_o the_o heaven_n and_o the_o earth_n shall_v wax-â—old_a as_o a_o garment_n he_o be_v the_o same_o and_o his_o year_n shall_v not_o fail_v the_o almighty_a the_o mighty_a god_n the_o eternal_a father_n the_o god_n who_o in_o the_o beginning_n make_v the_o world_n who_o make_v all_o thing_n and_o without_o who_o not_o any_o thing_n be_v make_v that_o be_v make_v who_o in_o the_o beginning_n lay_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o earth_n and_o the_o heaven_n be_v the_o work_n of_o his_o hand_n who_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n the_o beget_v of_o the_o father_n the_o only-begotten_a of_o the_o father_n and_o therefore_o of_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o the_o father_n however_o not_o the_o same_o person_n or_o not_o under_o that_o consideration_n nor_o can_v he_o say_v this_o be_v impossible_a a_o contradiction_n or_o inconsistent_a with_o reason_n and_o that_o therefore_o though_o the_o word_n be_v clear_a and_o plain_a yet_o we_o must_v seek_v out_o some_o other_o sense_n to_o be_v force_v upon_o they_o for_o this_o point_n be_v already_o gain_v and_o he_o do_v confess_v it_o p._n 3._o that_o there_o be_v no_o contradiction_n in_o hold_v that_o there_o may_v
be_v three_o person_n in_o god_n and_o if_o there_o be_v no_o contradiction_n in_o it_o why_o shall_v we_o be_v afraid_a to_o say_v what_o in_o scripture_n be_v say_v so_o plain_o or_o why_o shall_v we_o set_v up_o two_o god_n where_o one_o will_v serve_v and_o when_o the_o scripture_n say_v there_o be_v but_o one_o he_o will_v say_v perhaps_o god_n make_v the_o world_n by_o christ._n and_o we_o say_v so_o too_o but_o not_o as_o by_o a_o tool_n or_o instrument_n as_o he_o will_v have_v it_o p._n 17._o but_o rather_o as_o by_o his_o power_n or_o wisdom_n but_o the_o power_n and_o wisdom_n of_o god_n be_v not_o thing_n diverse_a from_o god_n himself_o but_o be_v himself_o much_o less_o be_v they_o different_a god_n from_o god_n himself_o and_o even_o among_o we_o the_o power_n and_o wisdom_n of_o a_o man_n be_v not_o thing_n distinct_a from_o the_o man_n in_o that_o sense_n wherein_o the_o word_n thing_n and_o mode_n be_v vvn_n much_o less_o be_v they_o distinct_a man_n from_o the_o man_n who_o power_n and_o wisdom_n they_o be_v the_o man_n and_o his_o wisdom_n the_o man_n and_o his_o power_n be_v not_o distinguish_v ut_fw-la res_fw-la &_o res_fw-la as_o the_o school_n speak_v but_o ut_fw-la res_fw-la &_o modus_fw-la and_o power_n and_o wisdom_n in_o the_o same_o man_n ut_fw-la modus_fw-la &_o modus_fw-la for_o though_o a_o man_n may_v subsist_v without_o wisdom_n but_o god_n can_v yet_o wisdom_n can_v subsist_v without_o somewhat_o that_o be_v wise_a nor_o this_o man_n wisdom_n without_o the_o man_n and_o therefore_o this_o wisdom_n according_a to_o the_o school-distinction_n must_v be_v modus_fw-la and_o not_o res._n and_o the_o like_a of_o power_n so_o that_o if_o we_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v the_o power_n of_o god_n or_o the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n as_o he_o be_v call_v 1_o cor._n 1._o 24._o and_o that_o god_n by_o his_o power_n and_o wisdom_n make_v the_o world_n it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o this_o power_n or_o wisdom_n of_o god_n be_v another_o god_n from_o god_n himself_o but_o god_n and_o his_o wisdom_n or_o god_n and_o his_o power_n be_v god_n himself_o consonant_a to_o this_o it_o be_v where_o it_o be_v say_v col._n 2._o 3._o in_o he_o be_v hide_v all_o the_o treasure_n of_o wisdom_n and_o knowledge_n and_o perhaps_o it_o be_v this_o divine_a wisdom_n who_o tell_v we_o prov._n 8._o 22_o 23_o 27._o the_o lord_n possess_v i_o in_o the_o beginning_n of_o his_o way_n i_o be_v from_o everlasting_a from_o the_o beginning_n when_o he_o prepare_v the_o heaven_n i_o be_v there_o and_o much_o more_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n so_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v call_v the_o power_n of_o god_n luk._n 1._o 35._o the_o holy-ghost_n shall_v come_v upon_o thou_o and_o the_o power_n of_o the_o high_a shall_v overshadow_v thou_o now_o shall_v we_o say_v because_o god_n be_v wise_a in_o heart_n and_o mighty_a in_o strength_n job_n 9_o 4._o or_o because_o by_o his_o wisdom_n and_o power_n he_o make_v the_o world_n therefore_o his_o wisdom_n and_o his_o power_n be_v distinct_a god_n from_o himself_o or_o if_o we_o shall_v say_v that_o god_n as_o the_o fountain_n of_o be_v may_v be_v call_v the_o father_n and_o the_o same_o god_n as_o the_o fountain_n of_o wisdom_n be_v call_v the_o son_n and_o as_o the_o fountain_n of_o power_n be_v call_v the_o holy-ghost_n there_o be_v nothing_o of_o this_o that_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o reason_n but_o very_o agreeable_a with_o the_o common_a notion_n of_o humane_a reason_v and_o yet_o all_o these_o however_o under_o divers_a consideration_n be_v but_o one_o god_n but_o here_o i_o must_v caution_n again_o for_o i_o find_v people_n be_v willing_a to_o mistake_v or_o misapply_v what_o i_o say_v that_o i_o do_v not_o set_v down_o this_o as_o the_o adequate_a distinction_n between_o the_o three_o person_n for_o this_o i_o do_v not_o pretend_v thorough_o to_o understand_v but_o only_a that_o it_o be_v not_o inconsistent_a with_o reason_n that_o it_o may_v be_v so_o and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o necessity_n upon_o this_o account_n to_o set_v up_o another_o god_n or_o we_o may_v say_v much_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n that_o god_n by_o his_o word_n and_o spirit_n make_v the_o world_n and_o yet_o that_o his_o word_n and_o his_o spirit_n be_v not_o therefore_o distinct_a god_n from_o himself_o and_o we_o have_v they_o all_o mention_v in_o the_o story_n of_o the_o creation_n god_n create_v the_o heaven_n and_o the_o earth_n gen._n 1._o 1._o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n move_v upon_o the_o face_n of_o the_o water_n ver_fw-la 2._o and_o god_n say_v or_o speak_v the_o word_n let_v there_o be_v light_n etc._n etc._n ver._n 3_o 6_o 9_o 11_o 14_o 20_o 24._o and_o ver._n 26._o let_v we_o make_v man._n and_o psal._n 33._o 6_o 9_o by_o the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v the_o heaven_n make_v and_o all_o the_o host_n of_o they_o by_o the_o spirit_n or_o breath_n of_o his_o mouth_n he_o speak_v and_o it_o be_v do_v he_o command_v and_o it_o stand_v fast_o and_o to_o the_o like_a purpose_n psal._n 148._o 5._o job_n 26._o 13._o yet_o be_v they_o not_o three_o god_n but_o rather_o three_o somewhat_n which_o be_v but_o one_o god_n i_o have_v insist_v the_o long_a on_o this_o because_o i_o do_v not_o know_v but_o that_o through_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n such_o a_o discourse_n as_o this_o may_v have_v a_o like_a effect_n on_o he_o or_o some_o of_o his_o party_n as_o that_o of_o wittichius_n have_v on_o his_o friend_n sandius_n and_o i_o have_v argue_v it_o calm_o i_o have_v use_v no_o scurrilous_a language_n nor_o give_v any_o reproachful_a term_n i_o do_v not_o oppress_v he_o with_o the_o authority_n of_o father_n or_o council_n but_o with_o scripture_n only_o and_o plain_a reason_n and_o it_o seem_v to_o i_o so_o clear_a that_o if_o they_o can_v see_v it_o it_o be_v from_o some_o other_o reason_n than_o from_o want_n of_o clearness_n as_o to_o what_o i_o have_v say_v for_o explication_n of_o the_o athanasian_n creed_n though_o i_o can_v expect_v he_o shall_v approve_v of_o that_o creed_n while_o he_o retain_v his_o opinion_n i_o do_v not_o find_v that_o he_o take_v any_o great_a exception_n to_o what_o i_o say_v of_o it_o he_o do_v not_o like_o the_o word_n trinity_n in_o unity_n as_o foreign_a and_o unscriptural_a p._n 19_o he_o may_v if_o that_o will_v please_v he_o better_o put_v it_o into_o plain_a english_a and_o call_v it_o three_o in_o one_o and_o then_o the_o word_n be_v scriptural_a these_o three_o be_v one._n the_o possibility_n of_o god_n be_v incarnate_a he_o do_v not_o deny_v only_o he_o like_v the_o arian_n incarnation_n better_o than_o we_o he_o seem_v well_o please_v p._n 19_o 20._o that_o i_o do_v not_o positive_o affirm_v this_o creed_n to_o be_v write_v by_o athanasius_n that_o i_o do_v not_o anathematise_v the_o greek_a church_n that_o i_o do_v not_o damn_v all_o child_n fool_n madman_n and_o all_o before_o christ_n as_o he_o tell_v we_o some_o rigid_a irinitarians_n i_o know_v not_o who_o have_v do_v too_o often_o that_o i_o own_o the_o word_n person_n to_o be_v but_o metaphorical_a which_o at_o p._n 7._o he_o do_v not_o like_a which_o i_o will_v not_o disoblige_v he_o by_o unsay_n where_o it_o be_v that_o i_o have_v blame_v the_o father_n i_o do_v not_o remember_v for_o i_o think_v the_o father_n do_v concur_v in_o this_o that_o there_o be_v a_o distinction_n between_o the_o three_o which_o we_o call_v person_n great_a than_o that_o between_o the_o divine_a attribute_n but_o not_o such_o as_o to_o make_v they_o three_o god_n and_o that_o by_o call_v they_o person_n they_o mean_v no_o more_o and_o i_o say_v the_o same_o i_o shall_v conclude_v with_o this_o observation_n upon_o the_o whole_a he_o be_v at_o the_o beginning_n of_o his_o discourse_n a_o direct_a socinian_n dread_v the_o guilt_n of_o idolatry_n in_o have_v more_o god_n than_o one_o as_o contrary_a to_o the_o first_o commandment_n and_o therein_o i_o agree_v with_o he_o but_o deny_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n as_o the_o socinian_o do_v and_o thus_o he_o continue_v till_o towards_o the_o end_n of_o p._n 10._o but_o than_o begin_v silent_o to_o tack_n about_o and_o after_o a_o while_n do_v with_o as_o much_o earnestness_n affirm_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n as_o he_o have_v before_o deny_v it_o that_o christ_n be_v god_n from_o the_o beginning_n before_o the_o world_n be_v that_o he_o be_v afterward_o incarnate_a and_o become_v man_n and_o as_o god_n and_o man_n redeem_v we_o etc._n etc._n and_o here_o he_o be_v orthodox_n again_o but_o than_o tell_v we_o that_o this_o god_n be_v not_o the_o same_o god_n or_o coequal_a with_o the_o father_n but_o another_o god_n and_o at_o length_n tell_v we_o plain_o that_o there_o be_v at_o least_o two_o god_n to_o wit_v the_o father_n and_o the_o word_n for_o now_o the_o fear_n of_o have_v more_o god_n than_o one_o be_v over_o with_o he_o and_o be_v by_o this_o time_n a_o perfect_a arian_n and_o he_o who_o from_o a_o socinian_n be_v thus_o turn_v arian_n may_v at_o the_o next_o turn_n for_o aught_o i_o know_v turn_v orthodox_n in_o order_n to_o which_o i_o will_v advise_v he_o to_o keep_v to_o the_o sound_a part_n of_o his_o first_o opinion_n while_o he_o be_v a_o socinian_n namely_o that_o we_o ought_v to_o acknowledge_v and_o worship_n but_o one_o god_n and_o the_o sound_a part_n of_o his_o second_o opinion_n when_o he_o be_v turn_v arian_n namely_o that_o christ_n the_o word_n be_v god_n from_o the_o beginning_n before_o the_o world_n be_v that_o he_o be_v afterward_o incarnate_a and_o so_o become_v god_n and_o man_n that_o as_o such_o he_o suffer_v die_v and_o wrought_v out_o our_o redemption_n that_o the_o merit_n of_o his_o suffering_n be_v found_v on_o his_o godhead_n which_o otherwise_o will_v not_o have_v be_v meritorious_a if_o he_o be_v only_o a_o man_n however_o extraordinary_o assist_v by_o god_n and_o when_o he_o have_v so_o join_v these_o two_o together_o as_o to_o make_v they_o consistent_a he_o will_v be_v therein_o orthodox_n and_o if_o to_o these_o two_o he_o add_v a_o three_o which_o he_o own_v also_o namely_o that_o there_o be_v no_o contradiction_n in_o hold_v there_o may_v be_v three_o person_n in_o god_n he_o will_v then_o be_v able_a to_o answer_v all_o the_o cavil_n which_o either_o the_o arian_n or_o the_o socinian_n shall_v bring_v against_o it_o finis_fw-la