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B07987 Axiochus. A most excellent dialogue, written in Greeke by Plato the phylosopher: concerning the shortnesse and vncertainty of this life, with the contrary ends of the good and wicked. / Translated out of Greeke by Edw. [sic] Spenser. ; Heereto is annexed a sweet speech or oration spoken at the tryumphe at White-hall before her Maiestie, by the page to the right noble Earle of Oxenforde..; Axiochus. English. Spenser. 1592. Spenser, Edmund, 1552?-1599. 1592 (1592) STC 19974.6; ESTC S125749 12,676 38

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Axiochus thy talke is very foolish for reasoning thus without reason and seeking to make some sence of senceles wordes thou both dost and sayest cleane contrary to thy selfe not marking how at one time thou dost both complaine for the lacke of sence which thou shalt haue and also art greatly vexed for the rotting of thy carrion Carcasse and despoyling of thy former delights as if by this death thou shouldest not passe into another life or shouldest be so despoyled of all sence and feeling as thou wert before thou wast first brought into this world For euen as in those yeares when Draco and Callisthenes gouerned the common wealth of Athens thou then wast vexed with no euil for in the beginning thou wast no such as to whome euill might chance so likewise when thou hast ended this state of mortalitye thou shalt no more be afflicted for thou shalt not be in such case as that any euill can touch thee VVherefore shake off and castaway all these trifles and worldly baggage thus waying in thy minde that when the frame of this earthly building is dissolued and the soule being singled is restored to his naturall place this bodye which is then left an earthly masse and an vnreasonable substance is then no more a man For we are a soule that is to say an immortall creature beeing shut vp and inclosed in an earthly dungeon VVherewithall nature hath clothed vs and charged vs with many miseries so that euen those things which seeme pleasant to vs and ioyfull are indeed but vaine and shadowed beeing mingled and wrapped in many thousand sorrowes and those also which vse to breede vs sorrowe and heauines are both sodaine and therefore more hardely auoyded and also perdurable and therefore the more painefull and wearisome Such be diseases and inflammation of the sences Such bee inward griefes and sickenesses through which it cannot choose but that the soule must bee also diseased since that beeing scattered and spread through the powres and passages of the body it coueteth the vse of that open and kinde heauen out of which it was deriued and thirsteth for the wonted company surpassing delights of that aerernall fellowship whereby it is euident that the passage from life is a change from much euill to great good Axiochus Since therefore O Socrates thou deemest this life so tedious and troublesome why doost thou still abide in the same beeing as thou art a man of so great wisedom and experience whose knowledge reacheth farre aboue our common sence and beyond the vsuall reason of most men Socrates Thou Axiochus doost not report rightly of me for thou iudgest as the common people of Athens that because you see I am giuen to seeke and search out many things therefore I know somewhat But to say the truth I would hartely wish and would the same account in great parte of happinesse if I knew but these common and customable matters so farre am I from the knowledge of those high and excellent things For these things which I nowe declare are the sayinges of Prodicus the wise man some of them beeing bought for a pennye some for two groats and other some for foure For that same notable man vsed to teach none without wages hauing alwaies in his mouth that saying of Epicharmus One hand rubbeth another giue somewhat and somewhat take And it is not long sithence that he making a discourse of Philosophye in the house of Callias the sonne of Hipponicus such and so many things he spake against the state of life that I also account life in the number of those thinges which be of lesse waight And euer since that time O Axiochus my soule gaspeth after death daily longing to die Axiochus VVhat then was said of Prodicus Socrates Marrie I will tell you as they come to my minde For what parcell quod he of our life is not full of wretchednes dooth not the babie euen taken frō the mothers wombe powre out plenty of teares beginning the first step of life with griefe neither afterward hath it once any breathing or resting time from sorrow being either distressed with pouertie or pinched with colde or scortched with heate or payned with stripes and whatsoeuer it suffereth vtter once it cannot but onely with crying dooth show his minde hauing no voice but that alone to bewray his griefe and hauing through many woes waded to seauen yeares of age he is yet afflicted with greater griefes being subiect to the tyranny of the Schoolemaister and Tutor And as his yeares encreased so is the number of his guides and gouernours encreased being afterwards in the handes of Censors Philosophers and Capitaines Soone after being waxen a stripling he is hemmed in with greater feare namely of Lyceum of the Academie of the Schoole of games of Rulers of Roddes and to shut vp all in one worde of infinite miseries And all the time of his youth is spent vnder ouer-seers which are set ouer him by the Areopagits from which labours young men beeing once freed are yet ouer-layde with greater cares and more weightie thoughts touching the ordering of his state and trade of life which also if they be compared with those that followe all these former troubles may seeme but childish and indeed babish trifles For herevpon dooth a troope of euils accrew as be the exploites of warfare the bitternesse of wounds the continuall labour skirmishes and then closely creepeth on olde Age in which are heaped all the harmes that pertaine to mankinde whether of weakenesse as naturall or of paine as being externall And but if one betimes restore his life as a dew debt to death Nature euer waiting as a greedy vsurer taketh paynes aforehand snatching and pulling from this man his sight from that his hearing from som both two senses And if any fortune lōger then commonly is seene in this life to linger Nature weakening hir powres dooth loose lame and bow downe all partes of his body but they whose bodies in old age long flourisheth in minde as the saying is become twise children And therfore the gods knowing what is most expedient for men those whome they most deerely loue do soonest take out of this vale of wretchednes And for this cause Agamedes and Trophonius when they had built a Temple to Pythius Apollo desiring of the god therefore to grant them the best rewarde that might be giuen soone after when they layde them downe to rest neuer rose againe Likewise Cleobis Biton the sonnes of the Argiue Nunne whē their mother had made hir praier to Iuno that to her sonnes for their great godlines might be giuen some singuler gift for that they when her yoake of Oxen were not readily to bee found at the time of sacrifice themselues being yoaked in the charriot drew their mother to the Temple vpon this their mothers request the two sonnes the next morning were found dead It were too long in this place to reherse the testimonies of Poets which in their diuine poesies do
Axiochus A most excellent Dialogue written in Greeke by Plato the Phylosopher concerning the shortnesse and vncertainty of this life with the contrary ends of the good and wicked Translated out of Greeke by Edw. Spenser Heereto is annexed a sweet speech or Oration spoken at the Tryumphe at White-hall before her Maiestie by the Page to the right noble Earle of Oxenforde CB. SEMPER EADEM AT LONDON Printed for Cuthbert Burbie and are to be sold at the middle shop in the Poultry vnder S. Mildreds Church Anno. 1592. To the Right Worshipfull Maister Benedic Barnam Esquire Alderman and Sheriffe of this honorable Citty of London health and happinesse WOrshipfull Sir I am bold by way of dedication to giue yee this excellent Dialogue of Plato the Phylosopher for two reasons The first that so singuler a worke doone by a Heathen man might as wel florish in our vulgare speech as of long time it hath doone both in Greeke and Latine The seconde that your countenaunce might shaddowe it from reprochefull slaunders which common censures too lightly bolt out against the best endeuours But concerning the speciall matter to wit my presumption without first acquainting yee heere-with thus I protect my selfe My familiarity with yee in your younger yeeres when sometimes wee were Schollers together and my present ioy to see ye so happie a succeeder both in your Fathers vertues place and Office imboldened mee to shew a remembrance of the one yet reuerently and gladnes of the other as well becommeth me If in thys small gift ye make acceptance both of the one and other yee shall declare no lesse then each one well discernes in ye and ioy him that euery way is at your cōmaund To the Reader THis Dialogue of Axiochus gentle Reader was translated out of Greeke by that worthy Scholler and Poet Maister Edward Spenser whose studies haue doe carry no mean commendation because their deserts are of so great esteeme If heerein thou find not the delightfull pleasures his verses yeeldeth yet shalt thou receiue matter of as high contentment to wit comfort in the verie latest extremitie For his sake then be kind in acceptance heereof and doe him the right he very well deserueth Axiochus of Plato or a Dialogue of Death being both short and very Elegant Socrates Clinias Axiochus AS I went one day to my common schoole Lynosargus and being in the waye by Elizeus I might heare the voice of one calling aloude to me Socrates And turning me about to see whence it came I saw Clinias Axiochus his sonne together with Damon the Musitian Charmides the sonne of Glauco running hastely toward Callirrhoe whereof the one was a Maister and professor of the Arte of Musicke the other by means of great familiarity acquaintance did both loue him and also was of him beloued whereupon I thought good leauing my ready way to go meet them that I might the sooner vnderstand his meaning Then Clinias bursting out in teares O Socrates quod he now is the time when thou maist shew forth thy long fostered and famous wisedome for my father is euen nowe taken with a grieuous disease and drawing neere as it seemeth to his end is therwithall grieuously troubled and greatly disquieted Howbeit heeretofore hee was so farre from the feare of death as that he was wont pleasantly to scoffe and scorne at those which vsed to portraict the Image of death painting him with a dreadfull countenance and a griesly face VVherefore I beseech thee O Socrates to go and comfort my father as you were wont to doo for so the rather being strengthened with your good counsaile he shall bee able without any grudging or fainting to passe through the way of all flesh and I with the rest of his friends and kinsmen will maintaine the yearely memory of that his good end Socrates O Clinias I will not denie thy so reasonable a request specially concerning such a matter as to deny it were great vnkindnes and discourtesie to grant it perteyneth both to godlinesse and charitie Let vs therefore speede vs to him for if thy father be in so sore taking there needeth speedines and great hast Clinias O Socrates I am sure that my father assoone as hee but beholdeth you will be much better at ease for his fitte and panges of his sicknesse vse oftentimes to surcease and be asswaged Socrates But that we might the sooner come to him we tooke the way which lieth beside the town wall by the Gardeins for his dwelling was hard by the gates which lyeth toward the Amazons piller whither wee comming found Axiochus which by this time was come to himself againe being indeed somewhat strong in his body but very weake and feeble in his minde and resting altogether comfortlesse often tossing him and tumbling vp and downe in his bed fetching deepe and dolefull sighes with aboundant streames of trickling teares and wailefull wringing of his handes whome beholding O Axiochus quoth I what meaneth this where bee now those haughtie and couragious words wherewith thou wast wont to scorne and despise death where bee those thy dayly and continuall prayses of vertue and goodnesse vanished where also is now that thy vnspeakeable stoutnesse wherewith thou wast woont to confirme thy selfe and strengthen others for like as a cowardly champion which at the first comming forth as to the skirmish with stately steps and a vaunting visage dooth soone after cast away his Target and taketh him to flight euen so seemest thou now when there is need most of al to flinch Hast thou no more regarde of thy diuine and excellent nature that sometime wast a man of so good life and calling so obedient to reasons rule and if there were nothing els yet should it be sufficient to mooue thee that thou art an Athenian borne and lastly should mooue thee that common saying which is worne in all mens mouths That this our life is a Pilgrimage which when we haue ended with perfect measure and stedfast trauell it behoueth vs with like constancy of minde and ioyfulnes of spirit and as it were singing a merry Paean to enter into the purposed place of rest But thus to languish in dispaire and tender harted out-cries behauing thy selfe like a froward Babe in thee is neither regard of thy wisedome nor respect of thy age Axiochus True indeed O Socrates and that which thou sayest me seemeth right But it commeth to passe I knowe not how that when I drawe neere vnto present daunger than those great and stout-hearted wordes which I was wont to cast at death doo closely flit away and downe are trodden vnderfoote And then that Torment or feare the messenger of dreaded daungers dooth sundrye wayes wound and gall my grieued minde whispering continually in mine eare that if I bee once depriued of this worldly light and bereft of goods I shall like a rotten blocke lye in the darkesome deapth neither seene nor heard of any beeing resolued into dust and wormes Socrates O
diuinely bewaile and lament the miseries of mans life I will nowe onely in place of many recite the witnesse of one being most worthie of memorie which thus saith How wretched a thred of life haue the gods spun To mortall men that in this race of life do run And againe Of all that in the earth are ordained by nature Than man is not to bee found a more wretched creature But of Amphiaraus what saith the Poet Him loued highest Iupiter and Apollo deare yet could he not reache to his eldest yeare What thinkest thou of him that taught the childe to crie When first the Sunne bright day he seeth with tender eye But I will let them passe least contrarye to promise I seeme to discourse at large and that in the alleadging of forraine witnesses What trade of life I pray you is there or what occupation of which you shall not find many that complaine and greatly mislike of their present affaires Let vs ouerrunne the companies of Artificers craftsmen which continually labour from night to night and yet hardly able to find them necessaries to liue by bewayling theyr bare estate filling their nightwatchings with sorrow and teares Let vs els suruew the life of Marriners and Seafaring men which make a hole through so many dangers which as Bias said are neither in the number of the liuing nor yet of the dead for man being borne to abide vpon the earth dooth as it were a creature of a double kinde thrust himselfe into the maine sea and wholy put his life into the hands of fortune But the life of husbandmen will some say is pleasant and so in deed it is but haue they not a continuall ranckling gall euer breeding new cause of greefe and disquiet sometime by reason of drought sometime because of raine otherwhile for scortching oft through blasting which parcheth the vntimely eare oftentimes because of importunate heate or vnmeasurable colde miserably weeping and complaining But aboue all that honourable state of gouernement and principallitie for I let passe many other things wrap them vp in silence through how many dangers is it tossed and turmoiled for if at any time it haue any cause of ioye it is like vnto a blowne blister or a swelling sore soone vp and sooner downe oftentime suffering a foule repulse which seemeth a thousand times worse then death it selfe For who at any time can be blessed that hangeth vpon the wauering will of the witlesse many And albeit the Magistrate deserue fauour and praise yet is he but a mocking stocke and scoffe of the comminalty being soone after outcast hissed at condemned and deliuered to a miserable death For where I praye thee O Axiochus thee I aske that art in office in the common-wealth dyed that mightie Miltiades where that victorious Themistocles where that valiant Ephialtes where finally thse noble kings and glorious Emperours which not long a goe flourished in the common wealth As for my selfe I could neuer be brought to beare office in the Cittie for I neuer accounted it as a worthie and lawdable thing to be in authority together with the madding multitude But Theramenes and Calixenus of late memorie appointing vnder them certaine Magistrates condemned certaine guiltlesse men not hearing their causes to vndeserued death Onelye withstood them you and Triptolemus of thirty thousand men which were gathered in the assemblie Axiochus It is as thou sayest Socrates and since that time I haue refrained my selfe from the stage neither hath any thing euer to mee seemed of greater waighte then the gouerning of the common-wealth and that is well knowne to them which are in the same office For thou speakest these things as hauing out of some high loft onely ouerlooked the troubles and tempests of the common-wealth but we know the same more assuredly hauing made proofe therefore in ourselues for the common people indeede our freends Socrates is vnthankefull disdainefull cruell enuious and vnlearned as that is gathered together of the scumme and dregs of the rascall route and a sorte of idle losels whome hee that flattereth and feedeth is much worse himselfe than they Socrates Since therefore O Axiochus thou doost so greatly disallow that opinion which of all other is counted most honest and liberall what shall we iudge of the other trades of life shall wee not thinke that they are likewise to bee shunned I remember that I once heard Prodicus say that death pertayneth neither to the liuing nor to the dead Axiochus How meane you that Socrates Socrates Mary thus that death toucheth not them that are and as for those that are departed out of this life are now no more and therfore death now toucheth them not for thou art not yet dead neither if thou decease shall it concerne thee for thou shalt then haue no more Therefore most vaine is that sorrow which Axiochus maketh for the thing which neyther is present nor shall euer touch Axiochus himselfe And euen as foolish is it as if one should complaine and be afraid of Scylla or the Centaures which were monsters of Poets broode which neyther now belong to thee nor to thy liues end shall appertaine for feare is conceyued of such things as be but of such things as be not what feare can there be Axiochus Truely Socrates you haue fetched these things out of the riche and most aboundant Storehouse of your woonderfull wisedome And thereof riseth that your mildenesse and lightnesse of speech which you vse to allure the mindes of yoong men to vertue But the losse of these worldly commodities dooth not a little vexe and disquiet my minde albeit these reasons which now to my great good liking you haue alledged seeme to mee much more allowable than those which late you vsed for my minde is not carryed away with error through the entisement of your words but perceiueth them well neither doe those things greatly mooue my minde which onely haue a colour and shadowed showe of truth being set out with flanting pride and glory of words but yet truth haue they none Socrates Thou art farre wide Axiochus and reasonest vnskilfully ioyning the feeling of euill with the wante of good things forgetting thy selfe that then thou shalt bee in the number of the sencelesse dead For him indeed which is bereft of all good things dooth the contrary force of euill things greatly vexe But he which hath no being can take nor feele nothing in place of those things whereof he is despoiled Then by what reason can any griefe bee conceyued of that thing which breedeth no sence nor perseuerance of any thing which hurteth For if in the beginning O Axiochus thou didst not though indeed in vayne ioyne sence and feeling to death most vnwisely thou shouldest neuer had cause to feare death But now thou doest confound thy selfe and speakest contrarie to thy selfe oft fearing that thou shalt bee depriued of soule and sence together and oft thinking that with thy sence thou shalt feele that thing whereof
there is no sence nor feeling And to this purpose do all those excellent and notable reasons of the soules immortalitie tend For it is not the weake nature of mortall man to raise himselfe to the fulfilling of such high and haughtye matters as to despise the ramping rage of wilde beasts to ieopard himselfe in the wastefull sea to builde Citties and them with lawes and pollicie to establish to looke vp into heauen and marke the course of the Starres and the wayes of the Sunne and Moone with their risings and setting to consider their eclipses their spaces their making of the nights and dayes alike their double conuersions to behold the order of the windes the seauen watrie starres of winter of summer of stormes with the violent rage of whirlewindes and as it were these labours of the world to deliuer to posteritie vnlesse in our mindes there were a certaine diuine spirit and vnderstanding which could comprehend and reach vnto the supernaturall knowledge of so great matters VVherefore nowe O Axiochus thou art not in the way to death but to immortality neither shalt thou as thou didst seeme right now to feare bee bereft of all good but shall hereby enioy true and perfect good Neither shalt thou perceiue such durty pleasures as are these beeing mingled with the puddle of this sinfull body but most pure and perfect delight being deuoid of all contagious trouble For beeing loosed and deliuered out of the darkesome dungeons of this body thou shalt passe to that place where is no lacke nor complaint but all things full of rest and deuoid of euill Moreouer there is calme and quiet liuing without all knowledge of vnrest peaceable and still occupied in beholding the course frame of Nature and studying Philosophy not to please the idle ignorant and common sort but with vpright and vndeceiuable truth Axiochus O Socrates with this thy gladsome speech thou hast now brought mee into a cleane contrary minde for so farre am I nowe from dread of death that I am euen set on fire and burne with desire thereof And that I may stay my selfe in the steppes of them which are counted workemasters of speech I will say thus much more excellently Now I begin to behold those high matters and doo ouerlooke that aeternall and heauenly course of things hauing now raysed vp my selfe out of my weakenes and being as it were renued and refreshed of my former malady Socrates If you demaunde of mee another reason and signe of the soules immortality I will tell you what the wise man Gobrias shewed me He saide that at what time Xerxes conuayed his huge Army into Greece his Grandfather which was of the same name was sent into Delos to defende that Iland in which were two Gods borne In the same Iland that his Grandfather learned out of certaine brasen Tables which Opis and Hecuergus had brought out of the Northerne Countries That the soule aftertime it is dissolued from the body passeth into a certaine darkesome place a Coast that lyeth vnder the earth wherein is Plutoes Pallace no lesse than Iupiters kingdome For the earth being equally ballanced in the middest of the world and the compasse thereof beeing round as a ball that the one halfe Sphere thereof is allotted to the higher Gods and the other halfe to the infernall powres betwixt whom there is such kindred and allyance that some bee brothers and other some brothers children But the entry of the way which leadeth to Plutoes kingdome is fenced with iron gates and fastened with brasen bolts which when a man hath opened he is entertained of the Riuer Acheron next which is Cocytus which flouds being ouerpassed hee must come before Minos and Rhadamanthus the merciles Iudges which place is called the plain of Truth where the Iudges sit examining euery one that commeth thither how he hath liued and with what trade or manner of life hee hath inhabited his mortall body with whom there is no place for lies nor refuge for excuses Then they which in their life time were inspired and led with a good Angell are receiued into the houshold of the blessed where all seasons flowe with abundance of all fruits where from the siluer springs doo calmely run the Christall streames where the flourishing medowes are cloathed with chaungeable Mantles of glorious colours where are famous Schooles of renowmed Philosophers goodly companies of diuine Poets trim sorts of Dauncers heauenly Musicke great banquets furnished with costly cates Tables abounding with all bounty delights without all care and pleasures without all paine For the Inhabitants thereof are neither touched with force of cold nor payned with excesse of heate but the moderate Aire breatheth on them mildly and calmely being lightned with the gentle Sunnebeames In this place and in the Elysian fields they which haue taken holy orders are highly aduanced and reuerenced dayly ministring the vnsearcheable rytes of Religion VVherefore then shouldest thou doubt but to be made partaker of the same honor being one of the seede of that heauenly race It is an old saying and rightly reported that Hercules and Bacchus going downe to hell they were instituted in holly orders and that they were emboldned to goe thither of the Goddesse Eleusina But they which being wrapped in wickednes haue led an vngodly life are snatched vp by the Furies and by them carried through the lowest hell into deepe darkenes and vtter confusion where the place and abode of the wicked is and where the three score daughters of Danaus dwell whose punishment is continually to fill a sort of bottomlesse vessels where also is to bee seene the vnquencheable thirst of Tantalus the gnawen Entrailes of Titius and the endles stone of Sisip●us whose end beginneth a newe labour There bee they rent of wilde beasts continually scorched with burning Lamps pained with all kind of torments and afflicted with endlesse pennance These thinges I remember that I haue heard Gobrias tell but you Axiochus may iudge of them as you list Only this I know and assuredly hold fast that euery mans minde is immortall and passing out of this life feeleth no griefe nor sorrowe VVherefore O Axiochus whether thou be carryed into those highest Pallaces or lower Vawts needes must it bee that thou shalt bee blessed because thou hast liued well and godly Axiochus Minding to haue said something vnto thee O Socrates I am impeached with bashfull shame For so farre am I now from the horror and dread of death that I continually couet the time thereof So hath thy heauenly and comfortable speeches pierced and relieued my faint heart And nowe loath I this life and scorne the delights thereof as that shall from henceforth passe into a better abode And now by my selfe alone will I recount these thy notable sayings but I pray thee O Socrates after noone resort to me againe Socrates I will doo as you say and now will I returne to walk in my school Lynosargus from whence I was hither called FINIS ❧