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A91048	The proceedings in the late treaty of peace· Together with severall letters of his Majesty to the Queen, and of Prince Rupert to the Earle of Northampton, which were intercepted and brought to the Parliament. With a declaration of the Lords and Commons upon those proceedings and letters. Ordered by the Lords and Commons, that these proceedings, letters, and declaration be forthwith printed. H. Elsing Cler. Parliament. Dom. Com.	Rupert, Prince, Count Palatine, 1619-1682.; Charles I, King of England, 1600-1649.; Henrietta Maria, Queen, consort of Charles I, King of England, 1609-1669.; Northampton, Spencer Compton, Earl of, 1601-1643.; England and Wales. Parliament.	1643 (1643)	Wing P3571; Thomason E102_6; ESTC R11174	75,243	98

Members to their sitting and Votes It is observable that the demand is made without distinction of persons or offences so that be the persons never so criminous or the offences never so notorious and so the Judgement never so just yet all must be restored or no consent to disbanding And the reason and ground of the Demand is as observable Because they adhered to His Majesty in these distractions An Argument they must confesse much used by the Earl of Strafford in defence of his Treason who would have justified the most notorious Crimes laid to his charge by Authority and Commands derived from His Majesty and his zeal to advance His Majesties Service and profit and no doubt the same reason may be used for the Judges in case of Ship-money and most of the Monopolists and Projectors who by Letters Patents had not onely His Majesties Command and Authority for the doing what they did but brought in great Sums of Money to His use and benefit and that perhaps in times of necessity and want thereof And so consequently because these adhered to His Majesty for what they did was for his profit with the like reason it may be required That all Impeachments and Proceedings against them should be repealed and laid aside And surely nothing can be more destructive and dangerous both to Parliament and Kingdom then the consenting to that Demand For what can be more destructive to both Houses then to restore those persons to have their former suffrage and Votes in Parliament over the lives and Liberties of the People and the Priviledge of Parliament who have not onely disserted the Parliament disobeyed and contemned their Authority neglected the Trust reposed in them by those that sent them thither in whose behalf they were to attend and serve there but by private practises and open hostility have endeavoured to destroy both Parliament and people And it would be an objection of difficultie to answer whether in giving a consent to this demand the people who are to chuse these Members should not be deprived of their interest and freedom of choice and election now divolved unto them by putting out the Members already sent And to this they might adde the danger of the President and the reflection of dishonour that would fall upon both Houses should they consent to this which would be with the same breath as it were to give and repeal their judgement and pronounce sentence of injustice and rashnesse against themselves but they will not insist thereupon in a case otherwise so full of danger and inconveniencie to the publique And touching the Proposition of adjourning the Parliament twenty miles distant from London they shall not need in a case so apparant to spend many words to discover the inconveniencie and unreasonablenesse thereof for should they assent unto it to passe over the inconveniencies that would happen to such persons that should have occasion to attend the Parliament by removing it so far from the residencie of the ordinary Courts of Justice and the places where the Records of the Kingdom remain whereof there is frequent use to be made it would not onely give a tacite consent to those scandals so often pressed and affirmend in severall Declarations That is That His Majestie was forced for the safetie of His own person heretofore to withdraw and hitherto to absent himself from the Parliament which both Houses can by no means admit but must still deny But likewise to that high and dangerous aspersion of awing the Members of this Parliament raised without doubt purposely to invalide the Acts and proceeding thereof And by that engine in case the Popish Armie should prevail against the Parliament which they trust God in his goodnesse will never permit to overturn and nullifie all the good Lawes and Statutes made this Parliament And it would give too much countenance to those unjust aspesirons laid to the charge of the City of London whose unexsampled zeal and fidelity to the true Protestant Religion and the Liberty of this kingdom is never to be forgotten That His Majesty and the Members of both Houses cannot with safety to their persons reside there when as they are well assured That the loyalty of that City to His Majesty and their affections to the Parliament is such as doth equall if not exceed any other place or City in the Kingdom And with what safety the two Houses can sit in any other place when even in the place they now reside the House of Commons was in apparent danger of violence when His Majestie accompanied with some hundreds of armed men came thither to demand their Members let the world judge And now the Lords and Commons must appeal to the judgement of all impartiall men Whether they have not used their utmost and most faithfull endeavours to put an end to the distractions of this Kingdom and to restore it to a blessed and lasting Peace And whether their Propositions being the way thereunto were not such as were reasonable and necessary for them to make and just and Honourable for His Majesty to grant And whether His Mejesties Answer to these Propositions are satisfactory or correspondent to His Expression To have given up all the faculties of His soul to an earnest endeavour of a Peace and Reconciliation With His People But they must confesse that they had just cause to suspect That this would be the happy issue of the Treaty for the prevalency of the enemies thereof who like that evill spirit do most rage when they think they must be cast out was such that they would not proceed therein one step without some attempt or provocation layd in the way to interrupt and break it off for after they had resolved to present their humble desires and propositions to His Majesty their Committee must not without a speciall safe counduct and Protection from Him have accesse to Him a liberty incident to them not only as they are Members of the Parliament and employed by both Houses but as they were free born Subjects and yet when they passed over this His Majesty refused a safe conduct to the Lord Viscount Say and Seal being one of the Committee appointed by both Houses to be employed upon that occasion such a breach of priviledge that they beleeve is not to be paralelled by the example of former times and yet their desire was such to obtain the end they drive at that is a happy and lasting peace That they resolved not to interrupt the Treaty for that time by insisting upon it And then they had no sooner entred upon the Treaty but a Proclamation dated at Oxon the 16 of February 1642. entituled His Majesties Proclamation forbidding all His loving Subjects and the Counties of Kent Surrey Sussex and Hampshire to raise any Forces c. And another Proclamation dated the 8 of February forbidding the assessing and payment of all Taxes by vertue of an Ordinance of both Houses and all entring into Associations were published in

desires to be answered these Questions in writing by the Committee of both Houses 1. WHether they may not shew unto Him those Instructions acording to which they are to Treat and bebate with His Majesty upon the two first Propositions of which the last Message from both Houses takes notice and refers unto 2. Whether they have power to passe from one Proposition to the other in the debate before His Majesty have exprest His mind concerning the Proposition first entered into 3. Whether they have power to give an entire Answer to His Majesties first Proposition before His Majesties Reply to any part thereof or to passe from any part of that Proposition to another part of the same before his Majesty hath given a Reply concerning thar part 4. Whether in case His Majesties Answer or Reply to any part of either Proposition doe not satisfie them they have power to send up that His Answer or Reply to both Houses and proceed upon the debate of another part of the same 5. Whether they have power to conclude these two Propositions 6. Whether they have Power to presse or consent unto the execution of either of these two Propositions or any part of them till the whole Treaty be agreed upon Falkland The Committee of Lords and Commons appointed to attend His MAJESTY upon the Treaty do humbly return these Answers to the Questions propounded by His Maiesty March 25. 1643. To the first THey are injoyned not to shew or discover their Instructions or to give any Copy of them To the second Concerning His Majesties first Proposition and the first Proposition of both Houses of Parliament they humbly conceive they may passe from the one Proposition to the other after that His Majesty hath given His Answer to the particular part of either Proposition that shall be in debate To the third They humbly conceive that they are to receive His Majesties reply to that part of the Propostion to which they give their Anser before they proceed to any other part of either Proposition To the fourth They humbly conceive that when they have received His Majesties Answer or Reply to any part of either Proposition wherein they are not satisfied they are to send that His Majesties Answer or Reply to both Houses and in the meane time may proceed to another part of either Proposition To the firfth They humbly conceive they may conclude these two Propositions if they be agreed unto a according to their Instructions To the sixth they humbly conceive they may presse and consent unto the execution of the two Propositions according to their Instructions before the whole Treaty be agreed upon Northumberland Y. Holland B. Whitlock W. Pierrepoint W. Armyn The Papers concerning leave to repaire to HIS MAJESTY March 27. 1643. WHereas we humbly presented to Your Majesty severll Answers to Your Majesties demands in your first Proposition and in reply to those answers we have received severall Papers from Your Majesty Our humble desires are that Your Majesty would be pleased to give us leave to repaire unto you for our farther satisfaction upon any doubts which shall arise amongst us in those Papers we have already received or any other which we shall hereaster receive from your Majesty before such time as we shall transmit them to both Houses of Parliament Northumberland Iohn Holland B. Whitlocke Will. Pierrepoint Will. Armyne March 28. 1643. HIs Majesty is wel pleased that the Committee of both Houses repair unto him for their further satisfaction upon any doubts which shal arise amongst them in the Papers they have aleady received or any other which they shall hereafter received from His Majesty and to which they shall not have acquiesced before they transmit them to both Houses of Parliament FALKLAND The Papers concerning the Revenue March 26. 1643. To that part of Your Majesties first Proposition concerning Your Majesties own Revenue we give this answer THe two Houses of Parliament have not made use of Your Majesties own Revenue but in a very small proportion which for a good part hath been imployed in the maintenance of Your Majesties Children according to the allowance established by Your Selfe And the two Houses of Parliament will satisfie what shall remain due to Your Majesty of those sums received out of Your Majesties owne Revenue And will leave the same to your Majesty for the time to come We likewise humbly propose to Your Majesty that You will restore what hath been taken for your Majesties use upon any of the Bils assigned to other purposes by severall Acts of Parliament or out of the provision made for the warre of Ireland Northumberland Will. Pierrepoint Ioh. Holland Will. Armine B. Whitelocke March 26. 1643. HIs Majesty knowes not what Proportion of his Revenue hath beene made use of by his two houses of Parliament but He hath reason to beleeve that if much of it hath not been used very much remaines still in their hands His whole Revenue being so seized and stopped by the orders of one or both houses even to the taking away of his Money out of his Exchequer and Mint and Bonds forced from his Cofferers Clerkes for the Provision of his Majesties houshold that very little hath come to his Maiesties use for his owne support He is well contented to allow whatsoever hath been imployed in the maintenance of his Children and to receive the Arreares due to himselfe and to be sure of his owne for the future He is likewise willing to restore all Moneys taken for is Majesties use by any Authority from him upon any Bils assigned to other purposes his Majesty being assured he hath received very little or nothing that way and expects that satisfaction be made for all those severall vast sums received and diverted to other purposes by orders of one or both houses which ought to have been paid upon the Act of Pacification to his Subjects of Scotland or imployed for the discharge of the debts of this Kingdom and by other Acta of Parliament for the reliefe of his poore Protestant Subjects of Ireland FAUKLAND March 27. 1643. HIs Majestie desire to be resolved by the Committee from both Houses whether their Proposition to His Majestie to restore what hath been taken for His Majesties use upon any of the Bills c. be a new demand or a condition upon which onely that is granted which goes before Falkland March 27. 1643. WHereas your Majestie desired to be resolved by us whether the Proposition to Your Majestie to restore what hath been taken for Your Majestie upon any of the Bills c. be a new demand or a Condition upon which onely that is granted which goes before We humbly conceive it to be no new demand but whether it be such a Condition upon which onely that which goes before is granted we are not able to resolve Northumberland W. Pierrepout W. Arwyne I. Holland B. Whitelocke March 27. 1643. Whereas we have received Your Majesties Answer of the 26. of