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A15093 The way to the true church wherein the principall motiues perswading according to Romanisme and questions touching the nature and authoritie of the church and scriptures, are familiarly disputed, and driuen to their issues, where, this day they sticke betweene the Papists and vs: contriued into an answer to a popish discourse concerning the rule of faith and the marks of the church. And published to admonish such as decline to papistrie of the weake and vncertaine grounds, whereupon they haue ventured their soules. Directed to all that seeke for resolution: and especially to his louing countrimen of Lancashire. By Iohn White minister of Gods word at Eccles. For the finding out of the matter and questions handled, there are three tables: two in the beginning, and one in the end of the booke. White, John, 1570-1615. 1608 (1608) STC 25394; ESTC S101725 487,534 518

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all_o canon_n be_v put_v to_o silence_n the_o pontifical_a decree_n be_v choke_v ancient_a tradition_n proscribe_v and_o the_o old_a custom_n sacred_a rite_n and_o former_a use_n in_o choose_v the_o high_a bishop_n utter_o extinguish_v thus_o have_v lust_n get_v every_o thing_n into_o it_o own_o hand_n etc._n etc._n thus_o themselves_o write_v of_o their_o own_o succession_n which_o show_v what_o we_o be_v to_o think_v thereof_o the_o rather_o if_o we_o remember_v 8._o remember_v sigon_n reg._n ital._n a_o 1046._o lib._n 8._o that_o this_o abuse_v continue_v almost_o 200._o year_n together_o that_o it_o may_v appear_v that_o if_o discontinuance_n of_o time_n or_o unlawfulnesse_n of_o entrance_n can_v interrupt_v a_o succession_n this_o of_o the_o papacy_n so_o insolent_o brag_v of_o be_v gross_o interrupt_v now_o take_v some_o special_a
example_n rodulf_n example_n pver_fw-la fermè_fw-la decennis_fw-la baron_fw-fr a_o 1033._o nu_fw-la 6._o glab_n rodulf_n bennet_n the_o nine_o be_v a_o child_n about_o ten_o year_n old_a 3_o old_a baro._n a_o 955_o nu_fw-la a._n &_o 3_o john_n the_o twelve_o a_o mad_a lad_n eighteen_o year_n old_a at_o the_o most_o 1._o most_o plat._n &_o baro_n a_o 908._o 1._o sergius_n the_o three_o enter_v violent_o cast_v out_o his_o predecessor_n christopher_n imprison_v he_o with_o band_n until_o he_o drive_v he_o to_o turn_v friar_n and_o so_o end_v his_o day_n 7._o day_n baro._n a_o 912._o nu_fw-la 7._o john_n the_o eleven_o be_v create_v pope_n by_o theodora_n and_o violent_o intrude_v for_o his_o filthy_a love_n 2._o love_n baro._n a_o 928_o nu_fw-la 2._o afterward_o her_o daughter_n marozia_n by_o force_n of_o arm_n expel_v he_o and_o cause_v he_o to_o be_v imprison_v where_o he_o be_v smother_v to_o death_n leo_fw-la the_o sixth_o succeed_v he_o 1._o he_o baro._n a_o 929_o 1._o and_o he_o also_o be_v imprison_v and_o die_v the_o next_o but_o one_o be_v john_n the_o twelve_o 1._o twelve_o baro._n a_o 931_o nu_fw-la 1._o he_o be_v bastard_n to_o sergius_n by_o madam_n marozia_n and_o be_v yet_o but_o a_o stripling_n be_v violent_o put_v into_o the_o popedom_n by_o his_o mother_n and_o her_o husband_n uvido_z the_o marquesse_n 1._o marquesse_n baro._n a_o 940_o nu_fw-la 1._o the_o next_o pope_n but_o one_o be_v stephen_n choose_v by_o the_o roman_n without_o the_o cardinal_n consent_n 4._o consent_n baro._n a_o 955._o nu_fw-la 4._o john_n the_o twelve_o be_v make_v pope_n by_o the_o faction_n of_o albericus_n his_o father_n when_o for_o his_o age_n he_o be_v not_o yet_o capable_a of_o the_o order_n of_o a_o deacon_n 11._o deacon_n luitpr_fw-la l._n 6._o ●_o 11._o in_o the_o end_n his_o bishop_n forsake_v he_o and_o one_o night_n as_o he_o be_v in_o bed_n with_o a_o man_n wife_n he_o devil_n strike_v he_o and_o he_o die_v about_o ten_o year_n after_o 1._o after_o baro._n a_o 974._o nu_fw-la 1._o bennet_n the_o sixth_o be_v imprison_v and_o murder_v by_o boniface_n that_o succeed_v he_o who_o get_v the_o popedom_n by_o violence_n 1_o violence_n an._n 975._o nu_fw-la 1_o and_o be_v again_o himself_o as_o violent_o depose_v and_o john_n the_o 15._o put_v in_o his_o room_n 1_o room_n an._n 985._o nu_fw-la 1_o but_o he_o return_v again_o and_o apprehend_v john_n imprison_v and_o murder_v he_o this_o companion_n be_v one_o of_o the_o succession_n and_o yet_o baronius_n say_v of_o he_o he_o be_v a_o villain_n and_o a_o thief_n the_o murderer_n of_o two_o pope_n the_o invader_n of_o peter_n chair_n who_o have_v not_o so_o much_o as_o one_o hair_n of_o a_o roman_a bishop_n whether_o you_o consider_v his_o entrance_n or_o go_v forward_o but_o deserve_v to_o be_v reckon_v among_o famous_a thief_n and_o ransacker_n of_o their_o country_n such_o as_o be_v sylla_n and_o catiline_n all_o who_o may_v cast_v their_o cap_n at_o this_o thief_n these_o be_v a_o few_o 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have_v be_v no_o better_o 10_o last_o 1._o last_o onupht_n cro_fw-it ro._n pont_n bozi_n sign_n eccl_n l._n 19_o c._n 1._o there_o have_v be_v thirty_o schism_n wherein_o there_o be_v two_o or_o three_o pope_n at_o once_o as_o for_o example_n about_o the_o year_n 1044._o plat._n 1044._o baro._n a_o 1044_o nu_fw-la 1.2.5_o naucler_n vol._n 2._o gen_fw-la 35._o onuph_n in_o grego_n 6._o ad_fw-la plat._n bennet_n the_o nine_o sylvester_n the_o three_o and_o john_n be_v all_o pope_n at_o once_o and_o make_v their_o abode_n in_o three_o several_a place_n of_o the_o city_n divide_v among_o they_o the_o revenue_n of_o the_o patriarchy_n until_o gregory_n the_o sixth_o hire_v they_o with_o money_n to_o give_v over_o himself_o be_v create_v the_o four_o pope_n and_o be_v present_o expel_v again_o and_o clement_n ordain_v again_o 7._o again_o theod_n niem_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 7._o about_o the_o year_n 1379._o begin_v the_o schism_n between_o vrbane_n and_o clement_n which_o end_v not_o till_o 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paul_n in_o the_o foresay_a place_n that_o those_o that_o come_v to_o it_o must_v not_o take_v the_o honour_n to_o themselves_o but_o must_v be_v call_v unto_o it_o as_o aaron_n be_v to_o wit_n visible_o and_o by_o peculiar_a consecration_n and_o must_v come_v to_o it_o in_o this_o ordinary_a manner_n which_o our_o saviour_n term_v to_o enter_v in_o by_o the_o door_n joh._n 10._o to_o wit_n by_o christ_n who_o visible_o send_v his_o apostle_n say_v euntes_fw-la docete_fw-la omnes_fw-la gentes_fw-la baptizantes_fw-la eos_fw-la etc._n etc._n matth._n ult._n and_o joh._n 20._o use_v a_o peculiar_a ceremony_n qui_fw-la sufflavit_fw-la in_o eos_fw-la he_o breathe_v upon_o they_o say_v accipite_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la quorum_fw-la remiseritis_fw-la peccata_fw-la remittuntur_fw-la eye_n &_o quorum_fw-la retinueritis_fw-la retenta_fw-la sunt_fw-la and_o be_v not_o forgive_v they_o by_o which_o word_n visible_o be_v give_v to_o the_o apostle_n both_o power_n to_o absolve_v from_o 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