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A33206 The Difference of the case, between the separation of Protestants from the Church of Rome, and the separation of Dissenters from the Church of England Clagett, William, 1646-1688.; Williams, John, 1636?-1709. 1683 (1683) Wing C4377; ESTC R12185 45,320 73

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to_o the_o truth_n which_o god_n have_v reveal_v and_o to_o the_o law_n which_o he_o have_v deliver_v to_o we_o and_o that_o those_o error_n and_o these_o practice_n be_v not_o of_o a_o slight_a nature_n but_o that_o they_o grate_n upon_o the_o very_a foundation_n of_o christianity_n and_o moreover_o that_o she_o exact_v the_o profession_n of_o the_o one_o and_o the_o do_v of_o the_o other_o from_o all_o her_o member_n so_o that_o when_o we_o say_v that_o we_o separate_a from_o that_o church_n for_o great_a purity_n we_o mean_v that_o there_o be_v several_a impure_a or_o sinful_a condition_n of_o communion_n require_v in_o that_o church_n with_o which_o as_o she_o have_v order_v the_o matter_n we_o must_v pollute_v ourselves_o and_o of_o which_o we_o ourselves_o must_v be_v guilty_a if_o we_o communicate_v with_o she_o at_o all_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v necessary_a for_o we_o to_o depart_v