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therefore_o exempt_v from_o all_o civil_a subjection_n and_o allegiance_n to_o the_o king_n 27_o three_o for_o that_o there_o be_v no_o probability_n in_o my_o judgement_n that_o either_o christ_n do_v by_o those_o word_n intend_v to_o exempt_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n see_v that_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n at_o all_o make_v of_o they_o in_o that_o place_n or_o also_o that_o this_o privilege_n of_o exemption_n be_v extend_v to_o s._n peter_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o regard_n only_o that_o they_o be_v of_o the_o spiritual_a family_n or_o church_n of_o christ_n i_o say_v of_o the_o spiritual_a family_n for_o that_o i_o will_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o as_o they_o be_v of_o his_o corporal_a family_n and_o live_v with_o he_o here_o on_o earth_n and_o have_v no_o corporal_a good_n but_o such_o as_o belong_v to_o christ_n they_o be_v exempt_v from_o pay_v tribute_n but_o not_o from_o civil_a subjection_n to_o heathen_a prince_n because_o the_o exemption_n of_o 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their_o temporal_a power_n and_o the_o light_n of_o natural_a reason_n which_o they_o receive_v not_o from_o the_o pope_n but_o only_o the_o light_n of_o faith_n and_o grace_n which_o they_o do_v receive_v from_o the_o spiritual_a power_n 3._o second_o that_o which_o card._n bellarmine_n affirm_v that_o the_o pope_n receive_v nothing_o from_o temporal_a prince_n be_v very_o untrue_a and_o therefore_o in_o this_o point_n also_o that_o part_n of_o the_o similitude_n be_v not_o fit_o apply_v for_o the_o pope_n have_v receive_v from_o temporal_a prince_n all_o his_o temporal_a dominion_n jurisdiction_n and_o temporal_a sword_n and_o the_o whole_a patrimony_n of_o s._n peter_n wherein_z as_o the_o same_o pope_n innocent_n affirm_v legitimi_fw-la affirm_v in_o cap._n per_fw-la venerabilem_fw-la qui_fw-la filii_fw-la sint_fw-la legitimi_fw-la he_o do_v now_o exercise_v the_o power_n of_o a_o supreme_a temporal_a prince_n neither_o be_v it_o only_o true_a that_o temporal_a prince_n be_v in_o 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himself_o 29._o himself_o lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr ro._n pont._n cap._n 29._o do_v for_o many_o year_n together_o hold_v with_o albertus_n pighius_fw-la 7._o pighius_fw-la lib._n 5._o hierach_n eccles_n cap._n 7._o that_o it_o be_v the_o more_o probable_a opinion_n that_o s._n paul_n &_o consequent_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v subject_a in_o temporal_n to_o caesar_n not_o only_a de_fw-fr facto_fw-la but_o also_o the_o jure_fw-la from_o whence_o suppose_v another_o true_a &_o undoubted_a principle_n grant_v also_o by_o card._n bellarmine_n 3._o bellarmine_n lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n cap._n 29._o &_o lib._n 5._o cap._n 3._o that_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n do_v deprive_v no_o man_n of_o any_o his_o right_a or_o dominion_n it_o necessary_o follow_v that_o if_o infidel_n prince_n have_v rightful_a power_n and_o dominion_n or_o jurisdiction_n over_o clergy_n man_n there_o be_v no_o repugnance_n but_o that_o they_o may_v keep_v the_o same_o power_n and_o jurisdiction_n 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