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A75723 Fides Apostolica or a discourse asserting the received authors and authority of the Apostles Creed. Together with the grounds and ends of the composing thereof by the Apostles, the sufficiency thereof for the rule of faith, the reasons of the name symbolon in the originall Greeke, and the division or parts of it. Hereunto is added a double appendix, the first touching the Athanasian, the second touching the Nicene Creed. By Geo. Ashwell B.D. Ashwell, George, 1612-1695. 1653 (1653) Wing A3997; Thomason E1433_2; ESTC R208502 178,413 343

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Church 2. That this Creed is produced by Tertullian against those Hereticks who denyed the Scriptures 3. That the Nicene Creed although a full and compleate Forme yet was not the first which the Christian Church had for which he refers us to Tertullian Now that Creed which was older than the Councell of Nice can be no other than the Apostles Creed seeing no other Creed was ever mentioned before the time of that Councell nor other Authors assigned And for Tertullians Testimony to whom we are referd he clearely assignes the Apostles for the Authors 6. Bullinger in the Begining of his Decads whereto he prefixeth the Ancient Creeds hath these words Sufficiebat hactenus Symbolum Apostolorum sufficisset Ecclesiae Christi etiam Constantini Seculo confitentur enim omnes omnes Ecclesias non alio Symbolo quam Apostolico usas eodemque fuisse per totam terrarum orbem contentas quoniam verò Constantini magni aetate emerfit impius blasphemus Arius qui Christianae fidei puritatem corrupit simplicitatem doctrinae Apostolicae pervertit coacti sunt ipsa necessitate Ecclesiarum ministri sese impostori opponere ac Symbolo editio verum id est veterem fidei confessionem damnatâ Arii novitate declarando ex Scripturis canonicis illustrare neque enim in aliis mox sequentibus tribus conciliis Generalibus editis Symbolis quicquam mutatum est in Doctrinâ Apostolorum neque quicquam novi adiectum quod prius ex Scriptura sancta Ecclesiae Christi habuerunt crediderunt sed corruptionibus novitatibus Haereticorum antiqua veritas illustrata per Symbola prudenter utiliter religiose est opposita That is Hitherto the Creed of the Apostles sufficed and had sufficed the Church of Christ even in the Time of Constantine for it is confest by all that all Churches used no other Creed than that of the Apostles and were contented therewith all the world over but because in the Time of Constantine the Great there sprang up that impious and blasphemous Arius who corrupted the Purity of the Christian Faith and perverted the Simplicity of the Apostolick Doctrine the Pastors of the Churches were compeld out of necessity to oppose themselves unto such an Imposture and setting forth a Creed to illustrate the True that is the Ancient Confession of Faith by manifesting it out of Scriptures thereby condemning the novelty of Arius for neither in the three other generall Councels which followed that of Nice was there any thing changed by setting forth their Creeds in the doctrine of the Apostles nor any new thing added unto what the Churches of Christ formerly had and believed out of the Holy Scripture but the Ancient Faith being illustrated by the Creeds was prudently profitably and piously opposed unto the Corruptions and Novelties of the Hereticks 7. Christopher Barbarossa in the Preface to his Catecheticall Analysis wherein he hath drawne into Method the Catechisticall Meditations of seventeene Protestant Divines set forth by the Deane and Colledge of Divines in the Academy of Rostock hath these words Apostoli Synodi brevibus Symbolis doctrinae Christianae Summam complexi sunt quilibet Apostolorum suum contulit ad hoc Symbolum Ratio quare Apostoli composuerunt hoc Symbolum duplex est 1. Suiipsius causâ ut certam haberent Regulam Amussim doctrinae postquam exire vellent in totum Mundum 2. Propter nos ipsos ut haberemus Regulam Amussim Fidei contra Haereticos Nomen Articuli requirit integram omnium Fidei Articulorum cognitionem confessionem si modò Fides perfecta integra esse debet That is The Apostles and Synods comprehended the summe of Christian doctrine in certaine breife Creeds Every one of the Apostles contributed his part to the Creed There is a double Reason why the Apostles composed the Creed 1. For their owne sake that they might have a certaine Rule or measure of Doctrine after they had resolved to goe forth into the whole world 2. For our sakes that we might have a Square or Rule of Faith against the Hereticks The word Article requires an entire knowledg and Confession of all the Points of Faith if so be it ought to be whole and perfect 8. Grinaeus de Eccles contin Primitiva Ecclesia habuit Symbolum Apostolorum cujus plena in Scripturis explicatio non abit ab hoc quod in Irenaeo extat Symbolum lib. 1. cap. 2. That is The Primitive Church had the Creed of the Apostles which is fully explained in the Scriptures This Creed is not diverse from that which is extant in Irenaeus 9. Nicol. Selneccerus in his Paedagogia Christiana Tria Symbola usitate nominantur Apostolicum Nicenum Athanasianum Apostolicum majus in quarta Apostolorū Synodo conscriptum fuisse arbitrantur 1. De electione Matthiae 2. De Ordinatione Diaconorum 3. De Abdicatione legalium 4. Vt existimatur de conscribendis his Fidei Articulis ut certa norma 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 praecipuorum Capitum doctrinae Christianae cum Apostolis jam esset in totum terrarum orbem abeundum extaret confessio quae unanimem ipsorum consensum exhiberet ut autem hoc se habeat certum tamen est in hoc Symbolo quod internae nostrae Fidei Professio concordia est contineri omnia Capita totius Religionis Christianae recte perspicue ordine That is There be three famous Creeds the Apostles the Nicene and that of Athanasius the Apostles Creed is of the greatest account and is supposed to have been compiled in the fourth Synod of the Apostles whereof the first was concerning the election of Mathias the Second concerning the Ordination of Deacons the Third concerning the disanulling of Ceremonies Act. 15. the Fourth as is conceived concerning these Articles of Faith which should serve as a certaine Rule or Modell of the cheife Heades of Christian Doctrine and seeing that the Apostles were now to goe forth into the whole world there might be extant a Confession which should exhibite their unanimous consent unto all But however this businesse was ordered 't is certaine that in this Creed which is the concordant profession of our inward Faith are conteined all the Heads of the whole Christian Religion Rightly Clearely and Orderly 10. Alex. Nowell in his Catechisme giveth two Reasons why the Creed is entituled to the Apostles whereof the First and Cheife and to which he principally enclines is this that it was ab Ore Apostolorum exceptum Received from the mouthes of the Apostles and his following words confirme this reason of the Name wherein he declares that it hath been Ab initio usque Ecclesiae receptum received from the very begining of the Christian Church and from that Time hath perpetually abode in it firme Authentick immoved amongst all Pious Christians ut certa atque constituta Christianae Fidei Regula as a sure setled Rule of the Christian Beliefe As for his latter conjecture of the name Apostolick that
the Diuids of Pythagoras Socrates c but what we find written I Answer The Creed is best preserved by Tradition for the sense and substance of the Articles because daily in publike use in the Catechumen's mouthes and the Liturgies of the Church yet subject to variation in point of expression by reason of severall Tongues and Dialects in the Christian World as also because of some exegeticall Additions interserted upom occasion of some particular Heresies which arose in this or that Church So Lawes are best preserved by continued Practise though somewhat varying if received in diverse Nations as the Romane Lawes are in some specialty of expression or by way of application to the exigence of the Times and Genius of the People in diverse Countries As for the dependance of Tradition it relies not only upon Memory but upon continuall use and Practise a better means of Preservation then Writing which is daily subject to the fraud negligence and ignorance of Transcribers many differences arising from whence have raised no small trouble unto Learned Criticks how to reconcile them or if irreconcileable to descerne the true Copie The Hebrew Bible was preserved entire in the true reading thereof as being constantly used in the Jewish Synagogues without any Points or Vowels written as now we have it and that for many hundred yeares according to the most received Opinion a Thinge infinitely more difficult then the Preservation of the Creed Wherefore we may not without Reason say that a short Summary of the Faith such as the Creed is is best kept by Tradition especially such an one as is in continuall use and Practise whereof the Fathers here cited give us good reason in summe that Non sunt evulganda fidei mysteria nisi Initiatis Magistro Duce seu Interprete ne sc derisui Profanis habeantur aut malignantium Calumniis pa●eant ne erroneis Ignorantium aut male feriantium glossematis obiiciantur The whole Word of God was committed to writing because large and full of Variety yet occasionally and by Degrees The like may be said of the many long various Discourses of Pythagoras and Socrates committed to Paper by their Schollers Our Saviours Sermons and Discourses were oft very large his Miracles and memorable passages of his Life almost infinite and so could not otherwise be well preserved then by Writing yet Irenaeus tels us that many Christian Nations had no Scripture amongst them in his Time who notwithstanding kept Christianity diligently amongst them by an old Tradition And on the other side the Fathers tell us that where the Scriptures were to be had the Hereticks oft set forth unsound Books under the Apostles names and corrupted the true Copies of Scripture which they got into their Hands by this means seducing many troubling more to neither of which inconveniences a knowne practised breife Tradition is obnoxious As for the doctrine of the Druids it was carefully preserved as long as the Religion stood by an unwritten Tradition now Christianity hath a promise of continuance unto the end of the world Mat. 28. 20. so needs no more to feare a failing of its doctrine then its Disciples If it be farther objected that all in generall are commanded to confesse Christ and to give an account of the hope that is in them 1 Pet. 3. 15. which seems to make against the second Reason assigned by Cyril of Ierusalem That the Creed was of old committed to writing by Irenaeus Tertullian that when these Reasons and exhortations were made by Ruffin Cyril and Chrysologus the Creed was committed to writing both by themselves and others I answer first that those Precepts belong properly to Christians that is to Persons entered into the Church by Baptisme who had the whole Creed explained unto them but if they extend to the Catechumeni the Confession and Account must be understood more indefinitely and at large to wit of those more easie and generall Principles whereof they were informed by their Teachers Secondly the Creed is therefore call'd a Tradition because not committed to writing by the Apostles as the Gospell and Epistles were though in after Ages it were put in writing by the Fathers and Councills for the more publike Conviction of Hereticks Yet it clearly appeares by the fore-cited Fathers who cannot well be thought ignorant of the Churches custome in their own Times that the Creed was not delivered in writing to the Catechumeni but taught them by word of mouth to learne and professe this teaching or delivery not without an explication of the Catechist or Bishop least otherwise they might chance to erre in the meaning withall it was not delivered all together but line after line as they were able to receive it CAP. III. Testimonies of Scripture touching the Composure of the Apostles Creed especially out of S. Pauls Epistles as the places are accordingly interpreted by Divines of good note both Auncient and Moderne Some doubts against these Testimonies solved THUS much for the History of the Creeds Composure and its manner of Conveyance to after Ages But that the Apostles did first Compile and then deliver this Creed by an orall Tradition to the Christian Church will need farther Confirmation I shall endeavour to prove it by Scripture Antiquity and Reason all which I hope will be found to attest this Truth as joynt-witnesses of what hath bin already produced out of Ruffinus And first by Scripture for though the Creed be not expresly set down in any place of the New Testament because the Apostles for the foremention'd reasons thought not good to commit it unto writing yet S. Paul in diverse places of his Epistles not obscurely alludes unto it under severall phrases of speech apt metaphours which we find afteward applied to the Creed by the auncient Fathers as they may be most probably interpreted are so understood de facto by the judgment of good Authors both of the Primitive and latter Times 1. First Rom. 6. 17. The Apostle tels us of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 That Forme of Doctrine and expressly cals it 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a Tradition as the Ancients constantly stile the Creed 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 saith he 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Ye have obeyed from the Heart that Forme of Doctrine which was delivered you that is whereas before Baptisme ye were the Servants of Sinne now now yee have professed your obedience to the Faith by the publike rehearsall of the Creed delivered to the Church in a set Forme by the Apostles to be openly recited before the Congregation at the time of Baptisme a Custome used from the Beginning and still retained in the Church Thus is the place expounded by Anselme our Learned and Renowned Archbishop of Canterbury Quae doctrina est Forma quia imaginem Dei deformatam restituit which Doctrine saith he is stiled a Forme because it restores the defaced Image of God to wit by Baptisme which the Apostle elsewhere calls The Laver of
it might be so cal'd quia ex eorum scriptis summa fide collectum because the Creed was most faithfully gathered out of the Apostles writings he might well indulge to the doubtfull speaking of some Divines in his Time 11. Confessio Saxonica Artic. 1. Affirmamus clare coram Deo universa Ecclesia in Coelo in Terra nos vera Fide amplecti omnia scripta Prophetarum Apostolorum quidem in hac ipsa nativa sententia quae expressa est in Symbolis Apostolico Niceno Athanasiano Et haec ipsa Symbola eorum nativam sententiam sine corruptelis semper constanter amplexi sumus Deo Juvante perpetuo amplectemur Damnamus etiam constantissimè omnes furores qui pugnant cum Symbolis ut sunt Samosateni Serveti Arii Pneumatomachorum portentosae opiniones aliae condemnatae veris Ecclesiae Judiciis That is We openly affirme before God and the universall Church in Heaven and in Earth that with a true faith we imbrace all the writings of the Prophets and Apostles in that very genuine primitive sence which is exprest in the Creeds of the Apostles Nic. and Athanatius and that we have alwayes constantly imbraced and by Gods helpe will alwayes imbrace these Creeds and their true native meaning without falsifying or depravation we also most resolutely condemne all those mad heresies which are repugnant to the Creeds namely those of Samosatenus Servetus Arius and the portentous opinions of the Pneumatomachi and what others condemned by the Just censures of the Church 12 Bohemica Confessio Fides Apostolica in duodecim Articulos digesta tradita in Symbolo per Nicenam Synodum atque adeò alias confirmata exposita est That is The Apostolick Faith being digested into twelve Articles and dilivered in the Creed hath been confirmed and explained by the Nicene and other succeeding Synods 13. Galliae Confes Art 5. Tria illa Symbola nempe Apostolicum Nicenum Athanasianum idcircò approbamus quod sint verbo Dei Scripto consentanea That is Those three Creeds the Apostolick the Nicene and that of Athanasius we therefore approve of because they are agreeable to the written Word of God And Serrarius the Jesuit whom we may well credit in such a matter in his Tract of the Athanasian Creed informes us that the Calvintan Divines in an Assembly of theirs at Lausanna profest that they agreed with the Lutherans concerning those Ancient Creeds and ascribed to them together with the Sciptare a Judiciary Power or Authority which all ought to obey Whence we may gather that they Judged them to proceed from the same Fountaine to wit from Divine or Apostolick Tradition otherwise they would not have conjoyned them with the Scriptures as the Authentick Judges or Rules whereby all Controversies are to be decided 14. The Church of England in her eight Art of the three Creeds agrees with the rest The three Ceeds Nic. Creed Athanasian Creed and that which is commonly cal'd the the Apostles Creed ought thorowly to be received and observed for they may be proved by most certaine warrants of the holy Scripture From these Foure last Testimonies taken out of the Confessions of the Reformed Churches I gather 1. That they concordantly receive these three Antient Creeds and reject whatsoever Heresy or opinion is repugnant to them from whence it will appeare that they have introduced no new Faith or Religion different from the old much lesse opposite unto it 2. They not only receive the Apostles Creed but also acknowledge it for such and by that name contra distinguish it to the Nicene and Athanasian therefore by that Title they are as justly presumed to acknowledge the Apostles for the composers of the one as the Councell of Nice and Athanasius for the Composers of the other Two 3. The Bohemick Confession tels us that the Nicene Councell and the rest that followed did confirme and expound that Faith which had been delivered in the Creed of the Apostles and distributed according to their number into twelve Articles so then the Apostles Creed was the First and not only the First but the Entire and Compleat Summary of the Christian Faith to which succeding Ages added nothing in their severall Formes of Confession or Beleefe but only explained them 4. The Gallican Church and our Mother of England say indeed that they receive the three Creeds because agreeable to the holy Writ but they say not that they receive them only for that Reason so that this expression doth not any way crosse the fore-delivered Tenent of deriving the Creed immediatly from the Mouthes of the Apostles no more than our Blessed Saviour and his Apostles confirming the Doctrine they taught by the testimonies of Moses and the Prophets prejudiced the truth and infallibility of the Spirit by which they spake See Jo. 5. 39 46 47. Act. 26. 22. Chap. 28. 23. Such an Accessory confirmation renders the Truth more cleare and Full and serves not so much to confirme the Doctrine it selfe as the Persons to whom it is delivered CAP. VII Six Reasons evincing the Apostles to have been the Composers of the Creed which commonly bears their name Some Objections against these Reasons answered The Place where the Creed was Made Of Fundamentalls and Traditions TO the Testimony of Scripture Consent of Antiquity and the joynt concordant Suffrages of our latter Protestant Divines I shall subjoyne in the last Place the Verdict of Reason which waits upon the forementioned Authorities giving strength unto some and light unto others Reason 1. The Title which it bears of the Apostles Creed or Symbole hath been generally acknowledged throughout all ages of the Church never questioned till of late cheefly by our moderne Antitrinitarians That Arch heritick Photinus their Fore-father perverted it indeed with the comments Vt fideliter simpliciter dicta ad argumentum sui dogmatis traheret That he might pervert the generall wordes thereof to the countenancing of or complying with his corrupt Tenents as Ruffinus informes us but he never durst deny either its Authority or its Authors Sure this Generall Tradition and unanimous consent of the Church is no weake Argument to evince the true Authors But to this Reason I find three things Objected Ob. 1. Against the Name Symbolum From whence some draw an Argument that it was joyntly composed by the Apostles because the Word is derived from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Conferre in unum and so signifies a Collation of many the Metaphor being drawne from Caena collatitia a Supper in common whereto every one of the guests brought his dish of meat or were he laid downe his shot equally with the rest whereas it might be called a Symbole or Collation not because it was gathered a Pluribus sed ex Pluribus not by many men but out of many materialls and this Collation made out of Scripture not by the Apostles themselves but by Apostolick men and their Disciples ab Ecclesiarum Patribus as Eusebius
whom the objectour cites I shall returne a more particular Answer First Cyril indeed in that place tels us that the mysteries of the Faith ought not to be delivered unto the Catechumeni simply nakedly but as clothed with scripture and that they should not simply believe him unlesse he brought proofes from thence for what he delivered because the safety of our Faith saith he depends not on the pleasingnes of Rhetorick but on the demonstration of Gods Word written The reason whereof he assignes in the begining of the same Homily 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. The Disciples of the Hereticks by their elegancy of speech and fair soothing tongues under the name of Christians deceive the hearts of the simple they hide the poysoōusdartes of their ungodly Doctrines with sugred expressions of all whom joyntly our Lord saith beware least any man deceive you then he goes on 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for this cause the doctrine of Faith is delivered with expositions thereon So that he would not have the Creed or himselfe believed without Scripture not that the Creed but the Times required such proofe for the Heretickes of those Dayes partly framed new Creeds of their own partly added to altered and perverted the old withall indeavouring to make their doctrine good by seeming probabillities of Reason and flourishes of Rhetorick It was necessary therefore in this case to discover these false Creeds and Interpretations by bringing all unto the Text of Scripture Secondly The other Father Paschasius in the begining of his Booke De Spiritu Sancto written against Macedonius taxeth a false reading of the Creed crept into it through the ignorance of some Transcribers who wrote I believe in the holy Church for I believe the holy Church by this error enervated an Argument usually alleadged by the Fathers for the Deity of the holy Ghost against Macedonius and his Followers Paschasius therefore proves by certeine Places of Scripture that they are commanded to believe in God alone but never in man wherefore seeing the Church consists of a company of men that reading of the Creed must consequently be false which enjoynes us to believe in the Church But what of all this He appealed not in this from the Creed unto Scripture but by Scripture corrects a false reading of the Creed as the Fathers in their polemicall writings against Hereticks frequently correct their corrupt quotations of some places of Scripture by other undoubted places Ob. 8th The Reason assigned why the Apostles composed this Creed discovers the vanity of the Tradition what was that That it might be forsooth to the Apostles a Canon or Rule according to which they should square and conforme their Preaching what to the Apostles to whom Christ promised his Blessed Spirit that should lead them into all Truth Certeinly they needed it not for their owne sakes amongst whom there was no ground of difference nor doubt of the Principles of Christianity And whereas others more probably say it was framed for the Churches sake that shee might have a short plaine yet full confession of Faith as a Formula of Beliefe to be publickly recited at the Time of Baptisme neither will this hold for in the Apostles Age the Confession of Faith was plaine and simple when they came to be Baptized namely in Jesus Christ or in the Father Son and holy Ghost as appeares by the History of the Acts so that the Church had then no need of such a Formula It began not to be required till diverse Heresies brake into the Church Answ First It is readily confest that the Apostles needed no Rule of Faith whereby to square their Preaching as if otherwise they should have erred yet they might well agree one a Canon or Rule of Fundamentals wherewith they thought fit to acquaint all Christians as with Points necessary to Salvation whereas otherwise they might have Preached more at large and intermixt matters of lesser Consequence As for the Authors who bring the Reason alleaged in the objection they lay it downe not in these Termes least the Apostles being seperated each from other ipsi inter se in varias scinderentur partes much lesse thus ne subinde alii abaliis in doctrinâ abirent as is odiously alleaged but Ruffinus renders the reasō thus Ne diversum aliquid his qui ad fidem Christi invitabantur exponerent S. Austin in like words Ne diversum vel dissonum praedicarent his qui ad fidē Christi invitabantur Now diversum and abversum dissonum and absonum are two things there was no feare that the Apostles by being severed each from other should Preach ought contrary to the Truth or to one Another if they had not before agreed uppon a Forme yet they might have Preached somewhat diverse from the Fundamentalls of Christianity namely other Points of inferiour concernment or at least the same in other wordes if they had not agreed on this Rule at their setting forth whence their Auditours might have taken occasion to suspect and argue them of falsehood not believing they were all guided by the same Spirit or to part themselves into factions as it fell out in the Church of Corinth about Paul and Apollos although they taught the same Gospell And what stirres arose in the Church about a Ceremony viz. the time of observing Easter derived frō a different tradition of S. Iohn to the Churches of Asia frō the rest of the Christian world though they all agreed in the main the keeping of the Feast Eusebius others will sufficienly informe us But to come closer to our Subject A notable instance in the very same kind namely in matter of of Doctrin such as the Creed is we find in the Greek and Latine Church about the middle of the fourth Century touching the Grand mystery of the Trinity which yet upon due examination proved only a difference of the tongue language The Controversie is thus set down by Greg. Naz Orat. 21. written in praise of the Great Athanasius Num. 46. 47. The Orientals saith he held one 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Essence and three Hypostases or or subsistences The Latines by Reason of the barrennesse of their Tongue and the narrownesse of expression could not distinguish Hypostasis from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Subsistence from Essence therefore insteed of Hypostasis brought in the new-coind word Persona Gr. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to signify the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the proper distinctive Relations of the Three as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signified the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Nature what was the effect of this saith he 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The effect deserved laughter or rather Lamentation this small difference of wordes seemed a diversity of Beliefe for the Orientals suspected the Westrne Church of Sabilianisme because they would not acknowledge three Hypostases but caled them by the name of three Persons And the Western Church suspected the Orientals of Arianisme for holding three Hypostases
so those Bishops wrote their Formulae Fidei and Paenitentiae libelli to him in Latine as Serrarius informes us in his Discourse on this Creed Much more reason had Athanasius to write this his Creed in Latine it being exhibited at Rome in a Synod of Latine Bishops on purpose to satisfy them concerning his Beliefe most of whom in all likelihood understood not the Greek Tongue Thirdly The foresaid reason is fortified by this other that Athanasius himselfe well understood the Latine Tongue and therefore needed not to communicate with them by an interpreter Which skill of Athanasius is not only made probable from the example of other Greeke Bishops as Eusebius Caesariensis Photinus and others of this latter Age also who joyned the study of both Tongues together and from his long abode in the Westerne Parts at severall times as at Triers above two years at Millain and Aquileia and at Rome above 18 moneths but clearly proved from that forecited passage of Nazianzene Orat. 21. Num. 46 47. Which I brought by way of Answer to the eight Objection against the Apostles Creed where he tells us how Athanasius composed the difference between the Greek and Latine Churches about the words Hypostasis and Essentia verborum sententiâ diligenter accurate perpensâ having diligently and accurately weighed the meaning of the wordes at length peswading both Parties that it was but a Logomachia a contention about Termes since both ment the same Thing Now such a Controversy as this could never have been stated with so full a satisfaction to both Parties unlesse he had been furnished with more than ordinary skill as well in the Latine as the Greeke CAP IIII. Some objsctions against what hath beene laid downe answered Especially Nazianzens Testimony concerning the Athanasian Creed is farther cleared and vindicated THus far have I proceeded By way of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in a positive and demonstrative way to assert the Author and Authority of the Athanasian Creed and by the way have enervated most of those Arguments which I have found brought against either But least I should seeme to leave the Tract unperfect by passing by any considerable objection which hath to my knowledg been alleadged against it I shall set downe the objections distinctly and subjoyne some light Strictures by way of Answer Object 1. Thay who ascribe this Creed to Athanasius agree not either about the Time or place Durandus saith it was written in his first Banishment at Triers where he lay hid in a Well to avoid the treacheries of the Arians Manuell Caleca and Baronius say it was wrote to P. Iulius either from his Diocesse at Alexandria or given in writing to him and the Roman Synod when he pleaded his Cause before them that so he might be received into the Communion of the Church of Rome wherein Baronius is deceived more wayes than one first because not only heere but in the the whole worke of his Annals he laboures to prove that in all Ages the Bishop of Rome had full Power to cite absolve or condemne the Bishops of the East and of the whole World Secondly because Athanasius was not accused for matter of Doctrine by the Arians but for matter of fact and his restitution to his Bishoprick opposed by them for Politicall inconveniencies as that his returne had once already caused seditions Slaughters in Alexandria that he had been restored to his See contrary to the Canons as one condemned by the Synod of Tyre and not yet absolved Thirdly because if he had needed to render an account of his Faith to Maximus Bishop of Triers or Iulius of Rome Hee would have used none other than the Necene Creed it being not opportune to have used any other at that Time for feare he migt have been thought to imitate the Arians and Semi-Arians who ever and anon framed new Confessions in their Synods ante-Synods on purpose to depreciate the Nicene Creed as false imperfect or obscure and for this very reason were chiefly hated by the Catholicks Answer 1. The severall opinions about the Time and Place where and when Athanasius Published his Creed are but circumstantiall differences and therefore not destructive of the main busines except we wil therefore deny an Hell because Divines differ about the Place where it is seated and the Time when it was prepared Besides all these differences are easy enough to be reconciled as I have shewed already taking my rise from Possevins judgement As for the Well at Triers what ever Baronius may judge of it yet if it beare that Inscription which Possevine witnesseth it may probably enough have been the Place where Athanasius at first composed this Creed of his either lying in it there for shelter at his first coming to Triers till he had made his innocency known to Constantine the younger and to Maximus the Bishop of the place or inscribing that Title on it in imitation of the Apostles Creed which was framed in a like place as we find it recorded by Fr. Quaresmius an Eye-witnesse in his forecited Testimony 2. What though Baronius ascribe more authority to the Bishop of Rome than in truth is due to him or than Iulius challenged in that Age What if Athanasius acknowledged him not for universall Bishop Neverthelesse he might prudently appeale to him as the chiefe Patriarch of the Christian Church sitting in the head City of the Empire as to a Person disengaged in his quarrell so not to be justly excepted against by his adversaries The appeale was not out of duty but discretion 3. That Athanasius was accused for matter of Doctrine I have already proved and therefore he had good reason to make confession of his faith 4. The Arians and Semi-Arians were hated by the Catholicks for not assenting to the Nicene Councell and for rejecting the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Consubstantiall in explaining the Divinity of the Son of God whereupon they framed new Formes or Confessions of their own contrary to the Decrees of that Councell Yet for all this Athanasius the great Patron of the Nicene Faith might very well compose a larger explanation of those two materiall and mysterious Points of the Trinity and Incarnation then questioned an explanation not contrary as the Arians Confessions but concordant to the Nicene Creed and this he might doe without any more derogation thereto than came afterwards from Ierome Leo other succeeding Fathers who made Confessions of their Faith or Creeds of their own private cōposure at this day extant in their workes Creeds not to be imposed on all Churches but to manifest their owne Beliefe or for the use of some particular Diocesse The Authorities produced to the contrary speake against the fraudulent destructive Symboles of hereticall Synods Ob. 2. This creed is usually left out of the Manuscripts of Athanasius his workes or at least hath not his name prefixt Answ This is not a sufficient Argument to disprove the Author because the other workes