Selected quad for the lemma: reason_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
reason_n	divine_a	faith_n	revelation_n	3,413	5	9.3938	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A65863	The divinity of Christ and unity of the three that bear record in heaven with the blessed end and effects of Christ's appearance, coming in the flesh, suffering and sacrifice for sinners, confessed and vindicated, by his followers, called Quakers : and the principal matters in controversie, between them, and their present opposers (as Presbyterians, Independants, &c.) considered and resolved, according to the scriptures of truth, and more particularly to remove the aspersions ... cast upon the ... Quakers ... in several books, written by Tho. Vincent, Will. Madox, their railing book, stil'd The foundation, &c, Tho. Danson, his Synopsis, John Owen, his Declaration / which are here examin'd and compared by G.W. ... ; as also, a short review of several passages of Edward Stillingfleet's ... in his discourse of the sufferings of Christ's and sermon preached before the King, wherein he flatly contradicts the said opposers.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.	1669 (1669)	Wing W1925; ESTC R19836	166,703	202

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true_o wait_v upon_o the_o live_a god_n in_o his_o light_n and_o life_n within_o whereby_o their_o mind_n and_o spirit_n be_v subject_v unto_o his_o will_n and_o their_o heart_n true_o break_v before_o he_o such_o know_v the_o ransom_n and_o atonement_n which_o the_o righteous_a and_o redeem_v of_o the_o lord_n know_v and_o witness_v in_o all_o age_n and_o have_v that_o to_o offer_v unto_o god_n and_o such_o sacrifice_n to_o present_v before_o he_o wherein_o he_o behold_v of_o his_o own_o glory_n and_o beauty_n and_o savour_v of_o his_o own_o virtue_n which_o be_v true_o acceptable_a and_o well_o please_v unto_o he_o who_o delight_v in_o his_o own_o image_n seed_n and_o royal_a offspring_n which_o none_o true_o know_v but_o who_o come_v into_o the_o light_n to_o receive_v christ_n the_o promise_a seed_n which_o bruise_v the_o serpent_n head_n and_o to_o eat_v his_o flesh_n and_o drink_v his_o blood_n without_o which_o you_o have_v no_o life_n in_o you_o for_o all_o your_o talk_n and_o 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he_o pour_v it_o out_o to_o death_n he_o bear_v the_o sin_n of_o many_o and_o make_v intercession_n for_o transgressor_n but_o what_o death_n and_o in_o what_o manner_n be_v it_o be_v a_o mystery_n true_o to_o know_v for_o his_o soul_n in_o his_o own_o be_v be_v immortal_a and_o the_o nature_n of_o god_n be_v divine_a and_o therefore_o that_o the_o blood_n of_o god_n shall_v be_v of_o humane_a or_o earthly_a nature_n appear_v inconsistent_a and_o where_o do_v the_o scripture_n call_v the_o blood_n of_o god_n humane_a or_o humane_a nature_n neither_o do_v we_o read_v that_o the_o blood_n which_o bear_v record_n in_o the_o earth_n and_o agree_v in_o one_o with_o the_o spirit_n and_o which_o purge_v the_o conscience_n wash_v and_o cleanse_v the_o believer_n in_o the_o light_n from_o all_o sin_n be_v ever_o call_v by_o the_o apostle_n the_o blood_n of_o the_o humane_a nature_n nor_o do_v we_o read_v that_o the_o saint_n do_v eat_v and_o drink_v flesh_n and_o blood_n that_o be_v of_o a_o 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material_a fault_n to_o any_o but_o such_o as_o be_v critical_a who_o do_v not_o sober_o weigh_v the_o intent_n of_o the_o matter_n a_o appendix_n wherein_o be_v some_o of_o the_o manifest_a contradiction_n of_o thomas_n vincent_n william_n maddox_n thomas_n danson_n and_o john_n owen_n both_o to_o themselves_o and_o one_o against_o another_o with_o brief_a animadversion_n or_o observation_n upon_o their_o contradiction_n which_o be_v about_o principle_n matter_n 1._o touch_v their_o distinction_n of_o three_o person_n m._n i_o be_o sure_a from_o the_o scripture_n that_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n be_v of_o a_o infinite_a nature_n be_v three_o person_n three_z increated_a person_n subsistence_n or_o manner_n of_o being_n pag._n 16_o 17_o 18_o 19_o contrad_n t.u._n in_o contradiction_n to_o his_o brother_n maddox_n say_v infiniteness_n be_v not_o applicable_a to_o the_o subsistence_n it_o can_v be_v proper_o ascribe_v to_o the_o personality_n though_o there_o be_v three_o distinct_a personality_n to_o which_o infiniteness_n be_v not_o ascribe_v pag._n 45._o obs._n see_v here_o be_v as_o much_o inconsistency_n between_o these_o two_o as_o between_o infinite_a and_o finite_a one_o make_v their_o be_v of_o a_o infinite_a nature_n a_o proof_n or_o reason_n of_o their_o distinct_a personality_n or_o subsistency_n and_o the_o other_o say_v infiniteness_n be_v not_o applicable_a nor_o proper_o ascribe_v to_o they_o what_o gross_a contradiction_n and_o blasphemous_a stuff_n be_v here_o w._n m._n each_o of_o these_o three_o person_n be_v god_n his_o subsistence_n be_v his_o manner_n of_o be_v in_o the_o relative_n property_n of_o the_o father_n and_o so_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n pag._n 18_o 19_o contr._n t.u._n it_o be_v improper_a to_o say_v that_o either_o of_o the_o person_n in_o regard_n of_o their_o personality_n or_o subsistence_n be_v finite_a or_o infinite_a pag._n 46._o obs._n this_o latter_a contradiction_n than_o will_v have_v neither_o father_n son_n nor_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v either_o finite_a or_o infinite_a what_o gross_a nonsense_n and_o apparent_a contradiction_n be_v these_o contr._n t.u._n christ_n be_v the_o eternal_a son_n of_o god_n by_o eternal_a generation_n pag._n 36_o 47._o obs._n he_o be_v now_o the_o eternal_a son_n of_o god_n before_o not_o infinite_a but_o again_o neither_o finite_a nor_o infinite_a in_o his_o personality_n and_o yet_o the_o eternal_a son_n of_o god_n what_o mad_a distract_a blasphemous_a work_n be_v this_o these_o man_n do_v make_v with_o their_o vain_a babble_n t.u._n they_o be_v not_o three_o substance_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o three_o person_n p._n 13._o contr._n t._n d._n the_o usual_a definition_n of_o person_n be_v a_o individual_a substance_n of_o a_o rational_a nature_n which_o be_v neither_o the_o part_n of_o another_o nor_o uphold_v by_o another_o which_o aquinus_n defend_v sum_n par._n 1.9.29_o art_n 2._o a_o man_n we_o call_v a_o person_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 1_o 2._o obs._n see_v again_o how_o apparent_o these_o two_o brethren_n contradict_v one_o another_o one_o say_v a_o person_n be_v a_o individual_a substance_n etc._n etc._n yet_o the_o other_o say_v they_o be_v not_o three_o substance_n therefore_o three_o person_n whereas_o it_o follow_v therefore_o not_o three_o person_n contr._n j.o._n we_o must_v acknowledge_v the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v a_o substance_n a_o person_n god_n yet_o distinct_a from_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n pag._n 101._o a_o personal_a subsistence_n pag._n 114._o obs._n where_o note_n that_o this_o doctor_n contradict_v t.u._n his_o say_n they_o be_v not_o three_o substance_n as_o also_o that_o he_o seem_v to_o make_v both_o substance_n person_n and_o subsistence_n to_o intend_v all_o one_o thing_n contrary_a to_o t._n v._o again_o but_o these_o word_n a_o person_n god_n yet_o distinct_a from_o the_o father_n and_o son_n i_o can_v make_v sense_n of_o though_o they_o be_v from_o a_o doctor_n for_o god_n be_v not_o a_o person_n distinct_a from_o himself_o w.m._n i_o call_v they_o three_o he_o be_v to_o try_v if_o you_o will_v own_v the_o deity_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n we_o call_v they_o person_n or_o he_o be_v in_o respect_n of_o their_o manner_n of_o subsistence_n pag._n 18_o 20._o contrad_n t._n v._o the_o word_n person_n can_v proper_o be_v attribute_v to_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n because_o they_o do_v not_o subsist_v in_o a_o several_a and_o distinct_a nature_n of_o the_o same_o kind_n for_o if_o each_o of_o they_o have_v a_o several_a and_o not_o one_o individual_a nature_n than_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v only_o three_o person_n but_o three_o god_n synopsis_n pag._n 3._o obs._n it_o be_v very_o evident_a here_o that_o thomas_n danson_n have_v contradict_v both_o himself_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o brethren_n see_v the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n can_v proper_o be_v call_v person_n w.m._n say_v his_o compare_v the_o three_o increated_a person_n to_o three_o apostle_n paul_n peter_n and_o john_n be_v blasphemy_n pag._n 20._o contr._n t._n d._n a_o man_n we_o call_v a_o person_n a_o person_n be_v entire_a of_o itself_o pag._n 2._o if_o peter_n james_n and_o john_n each_o person_n be_v man_n etc._n etc._n take_v man_n here_o not_o for_o a_o person_n but_o the_o nature_n as_o we_o do_v god_n be_v and_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o we_o mean_v no_o more_o that_o the_o name_n man_n may_v be_v attribute_v to_o peter_n james_n and_o john_n pag._n 12._o david_n be_v a_o man_n and_o solomon_n be_v a_o man_n they_o two_o agree_v in_o a_o three_o thing_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 14_o 15._o obs._n what_o less_o do_v their_o own_o distinction_n and_o comparison_n concern_v they_o amount_v to_o than_o to_o three_o apostle_n or_o man_n that_o be_v each_o entire_a of_o himself_o as_o a_o person_n be_v t._n d._n say_v who_o have_v apparent_o spoil_v his_o own_o and_o his_o brethren_n cause_n t.u._n the_o 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thus_o gross_o revile_v he_o and_o rail_v against_o he_o the_o more_o their_o folly_n confusion_n and_o weakness_n appear_v and_o indeed_o if_o w._n p._n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v so_o gross_o erroneous_a as_o he_o be_v represent_v it_o must_v be_v more_o competent_a antagonist_n than_o t._n v._o or_o such_o railer_n as_o he_o that_o must_v convince_v he_o but_o his_o show_v the_o absurdity_n of_o t.u._n his_o doctrine_n and_o both_o unscriptural_a and_o unreasonable_a distinction_n and_o his_o denial_n thereof_o be_v neither_o a_o denial_n of_o the_o son_n nor_o spirit_n nor_o the_o divinity_n of_o either_o but_o the_o apparent_a falseness_n of_o these_o rail_n and_o slanderous_a accusation_n before_o with_o the_o consequence_n thereof_o against_o w._n p._n in_o this_o thing_n touch_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n appear_v in_o his_o own_o book_n pag._n 14_o of_o christ_n be_v the_o only_a god_n and_o the_o divine_a nature_n be_v inseparable_a to_o each_o who_o they_o call_v person_n have_v the_o whole_a divine_a nature_n the_o son_n in_o the_o father_n and_o the_o spirit_n in_o the_o son_n unless_o the_o godhead_n be_v as_o incommunicable_a to_o the_o person_n so_o call_v as_o they_o be_v report_v to_o be_v among_o themselves_o say_v w.p._n do_v not_o w.p._n herein_o own_o the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n and_o holy_a spirit_n let_v the_o indifferent_a judge_n how_o t.u._n have_v wrong_v he_o and_o then_o w._n p._n his_o admonition_n pag._n 15._o say_v apply_v thy_o mind_n unto_o the_o light_n and_o grace_n which_o bring_v salvation_n that_o by_o obedience_n thereunto_o those_o mist_n tradition_n have_v cast_v before_o thy_o eye_n may_v be_v expel_v and_o thou_o receive_v a_o certain_a knowledge_n of_o that_o one_o god_n who_o to_o know_v be_v life_n eternal_a not_o to_o be_v a_o divide_a but_o one_o pure_a entire_a and_o eternal_a be_v who_o in_o the_o fullness_n of_o time_n send_v forth_o his_o son_n as_o the_o true_a light_n which_o enlighten_v every_o man_n that_o whosoever_o follow_v he_o the_o light_n may_v be_v translate_v from_o the_o dark_a notion_n and_o vain_a conversation_n of_o man_n to_o this_o holy_a light_n in_o which_o only_a sound_a judgement_n and_o eternal_a life_n be_v obtainable_a he_o testify_v the_o virtue_n of_o it_o and_o have_v communicate_v unto_o all_o such_o a_o proportion_n as_o may_v enable_v they_o to_o follow_v his_o example_n thus_o far_o w.p._n now_o mark_v whether_o herein_o he_o have_v not_o own_v the_o divinity_n of_o the_o son_n when_o thus_o plain_o he_o have_v confess_v to_o his_o light_n both_z as_o to_o its_o extent_n and_o virtue_n and_o so_o as_o for_o t._n v._o his_o rail_n against_o we_o so_o bitter_o call_v we_o black-mouthed_a blasphemer_n accuse_v w._n p._n with_o heathenism_n abominableness_n foulness_n false_o compare_v he_o to_o arius_n etc._n etc._n these_o be_v but_o mean_a argument_n to_o convince_v w._n p._n and_o do_v but_o show_v the_o malice_n and_o rancour_n of_o t._n vincent_n spirit_n and_o what_o a_o implacable_a persecute_v spirit_n appear_v among_o these_o presbyterian_a priest_n what_o cruel_a work_n will_v they_o make_v if_o they_o have_v power_n in_o their_o hand_n to_o persecute_v such_o as_o can_v be_v tie_v up_o to_o their_o narrow_a spirit_n and_o principle_n which_o be_v the_o same_o old_a persecute_v spirit_n that_o cry_v for_o fire_n and_o faggot_n after_o it_o put_v these_o name_n blasphemer_n and_o heretic_n upon_o the_o martyr_n and_o indeed_o if_o any_o shall_v be_v so_o disingenuous_a and_o drown_v in_o their_o understanding_n by_o prejudice_n as_o to_o think_v that_o the_o absurdity_n that_o w._n p._n draw_v from_o his_o adversary_n principle_n be_v his_o own_o they_o may_v be_v apt_a to_o charge_v he_o with_o blasphemy_n and_o what_o not_o though_o false_o but_o far_a how_o evident_o have_v w.p._n in_o his_o 18_o 19_o 21_o pag._n own_a and_o confess_v christ_n the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o his_o light_n and_o grace_n both_o for_o remission_n of_o sin_n reconciliation_n salvation_n of_o man_n life_n eternal_a and_o as_o he_o be_v the_o only_o beget_v of_o the_o father_n the_o gift_n and_o expression_n of_o eternal_a love_n for_o salvation_n now_o can_v any_o thing_n have_v or_o work_n these_o effect_n that_o be_v not_o divine_a be_v not_o christ_n divinity_n virtue_n divine_a light_n and_o power_n plain_o confess_v by_o w.p._n herein_o as_o also_o to_o his_o be_v god_n pag._n 21._o how_o gross_o have_v these_o angry_a presbyterian_o wrong_v he_o in_o so_o hidious_o charge_v the_o contrary_a upon_o he_o and_o be_v not_o they_o rather_o just_o chargeable_a herein_o with_o deny_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n in_o set_v so_o slight_a by_o his_o light_n in_o every_o man_n as_o they_o have_v do_v one_o call_v it_o a_o idol_n another_o caution_v not_o to_o follow_v its_o guidance_n but_o the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o honour_n due_a to_o he_o far_o be_v it_o from_o we_o to_o deny_v as_o these_o man_n have_v do_v and_o the_o scripture-instance_n in_o that_o case_n we_o both_o know_v and_o own_o joh._n 3.13_o rom._n 9.5_o phil._n 2.6_o heb._n 1.8_o joh._n 2.17_o heb._n 1.3_o joh._n 14.1_o phil._n 2.10_o col._n 1.16_o 17._o joh._n 8.58_o but_o we_o be_v not_o convince_v that_o man_n invent_a distinction_n put_v upon_o christ_n do_v add_v any_o thing_n to_o his_o honour_n but_o rather_o diminish_v from_o it_o and_o where_o in_o pag._n 31._o it_o be_v say_v in_o regard_n of_o his_o humane_a nature_n the_o jew_n speak_v true_a thou_o be_v not_o yet_o fifty_o year_n old_a as_o man_n he_o be_v a_o son_n of_o abraham_n and_o bear_v many_o generation_n after_o he_o etc._n etc._n now_o i_o ask_v if_o he_o be_v not_o a_o person_n as_o man_n and_o so_o bear_v and_o if_o there_o be_v three_o coeternal_a person_n