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d._n marta_n in_o a_o book_n dedicate_v to_o the_o present_a pope_n 273._o pope_n d._n marta_n the_o iurisdict_n part_n 4._o pag._n 273._o say_v the_o common_a opinion_n of_o the_o doctor_n be_v not_o to_o be_v regard_v when_o the_o other_o opinion_n contrary_a to_o they_o favour_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n or_o the_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n or_o a_o pious_a cause_n this_o man_n speak_v plain_a that_o one_o may_v understand_v he_o the_o father_n all_o of_o they_o must_v crouch_v to_o the_o key_n and_o pious_a cause_n of_o the_o pope_n which_o key_n and_o cause_n when_o they_o come_v to_o scan_v will_v prove_v as_o partial_a as_o any_o private_a spirit_n in_o the_o world_n and_o touch_v the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o scripture_n baron_n 213_o baron_n an._n 34._o n._n 213_o say_v the_o bishop_n all_o of_o they_o who_o succeed_v in_o the_o room_n of_o the_o apostle_n attain_v not_o the_o sense_n and_o understand_v of_o the_o scripture_n for_o the_o catholic_a church_n now_o turn_v protestant_a and_o private_a do_v not_o always_o and_o in_o all_o thing_n follow_v they_o how_o then_o i_o be_o no_o less_o delight_v 3._o delight_v
man_n will_n be_v the_o constant_a judgement_n of_o the_o most_o of_o our_o adversary_n i_o will_v not_o ground_v this_o authority_n upon_o the_o scripture_n or_o 358._o or_o see_v his_o last_n chap._n de_fw-fr praedest_fw-la &_o great_a ambrose_n catharinus_n uchementer_fw-la in_o eos_fw-la invohitur_fw-la qui_fw-la dicunt_fw-la deum_fw-la ex_fw-la se_fw-la aliquos_fw-la reprobare_fw-la &_o excludere_fw-la à _fw-la vita_fw-la aeterna_fw-la non_fw-la quidem_fw-la propter_fw-la eorum_fw-la praevisa_fw-la mala_fw-la opera_fw-la sed_fw-la quia_fw-la ipse_fw-la vult_fw-la non_fw-la dare_v illis_fw-la vitam_fw-la eternam_fw-la et_fw-la hanc_fw-la opinionem_fw-la vocat_fw-la ipse_fw-la durissimam_fw-la &_o intolerabilem_fw-la &_o causam_fw-la desperationis_fw-la hominum_fw-la &_o impiam_fw-la eamque_fw-la assignat_fw-la ipse_fw-la luthero_n cumea_n tamen_fw-la sit_fw-la ipsissima_fw-la b._n augustini_n sententia_fw-la peter_n select_v disp_n in_o rom._n 9_o n._n 31._o and_o that_o the_o judgement_n of_o s._n austin_n be_v that_o neither_o election_n nor_o reprobation_n be_v for_o work_n foresee_v be_v affirm_v by_o grego_n arimin_n d._n 40._o dom._n bann_n 1._o p._n q._n 23._o art_n 5._o sixt._n senens_fw-la biblioth_o l._n 6._o annot_fw-mi 251._o tolet._n in_o rom._n 11._o annot_v 4_o suar._n opusc_fw-la de_fw-fr auxil_fw-fr l._n 3._o c._n 16._o &_o 17._o &_o tract_n de_fw-mi divin_v praedest_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 8._o pag._n 179._o zumel_n var._n disp_n part_n 3._o pag._n 358._o s._n austin_n because_o i_o intend_v no_o solemn_a discourse_n about_o the_o question_n and_o have_v to_o do_v with_o a_o adversary_n who_o arrogancy_n 11._o arrogancy_n rom_n 9_o 11._o &_o 11.33_o eph._n 1_o 11._o and_o ignorance_n be_v fit_a to_o be_v buffet_v with_o the_o authority_n of_o his_o own_o side_n but_o i_o will_v make_v it_o appear_v that_o go_v about_o to_o confute_v caluine_n and_o expound_v his_o antecedent_n will_v he_o be_v fall_v into_o that_o gross_a opinion_n about_o 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