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A42896 Catholicks no idolaters, or, A full refutation of Doctor Stillingfleet's unjust charge of idolatry against the Church of Rome. Godden, Thomas, 1624-1688. 1672 (1672) Wing G918; ESTC R16817 244,621 532

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this_o pretence_n thus_o mr._n thorndike_n who_o judgement_n abet_v by_o divers_a of_o the_o most_o learned_a and_o most_o judicious_a person_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o this_o be_v think_v to_o be_v the_o reason_n why_o the_o doctor_n be_v book_n come_v forth_o without_o the_o public_a stamp_n of_o a_o imprimatur_fw-la from_o any_o of_o its_o bishop_n will_v stand_v as_o a_o convince_a prejudice_n against_o he_o till_o he_o can_v make_v it_o as_o evident_a that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n as_o the_o mischief_n be_v that_o have_v ensue_v upon_o it_o this_o he_o see_v be_v not_o possible_a to_o be_v do_v and_o therefore_o lay_v those_o divine_n aside_o for_o man_n of_o more_o charity_n than_o judgement_n lest_o he_o shall_v be_v think_v in_o so_o severe_a a_o censure_n to_o contradict_v the_o sense_n of_o his_o church_n which_o he_o say_v he_o have_v so_o great_a a_o regard_n to_o he_o undertake_v to_o show_v that_o this_o charge_n of_o idolatry_n have_v be_v manage_v against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n by_o the_o great_a and_o most_o learned_a defender_n of_o it_o ever_o since_o the_o reformation_n but_o if_o he_o have_v such_o a_o regard_n as_o he_o say_v for_o the_o church_n of_o england_n why_o do_v he_o not_o appeal_v to_o her_o 39_o article_n for_o as_o himself_o say_v p._n 209._o of_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o we_o be_v to_o appeal_v for_o it_o not_o to_o the_o write_n of_o particular_a doctor_n but_o to_o the_o decree_n of_o her_o council_n so_o in_o like_a manner_n for_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n he_o ought_v to_o have_v appeal_v to_o her_o publicly-authorized_n article_n but_o in_o they_o the_o church_n of_o england_n declare_v no_o such_o thing_n for_o we_o see_v it_o hot_o dispute_v between_o her_o
not_o image_n reinforce_v pag._n 33._o chap._n 4._o the_o doctor_n be_v second_a proof_n from_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o law_n sophistical_a all_o representation_n of_o god_n not_o dishonourable_a to_o he_o nor_o reject_v as_o such_o by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n the_o proper_a reason_n of_o the_o law_n on_o god_n part_n be_v assign_v and_o assert_v to_o be_v the_o supreme_a excellency_n of_o his_o nature_n pag._n 57_o chap._n 5._o worship_n unlawful_a by_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n equal_o unlawful_a to_o jew_n and_o christian_n a_o strange_a paradox_n advance_v by_o dr._n stillingfleet_n viz._n what_o can_v a_o image_n do_v to_o the_o heighten_v devotion_n or_o raise_v affection_n how_o far_o his_o devotion_n to_o the_o sun_n may_v be_v allow_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o st._n leo._n pag._n 76._o chap._n 6._o of_o the_o notion_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o wise_a heathen_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o their_o image_n the_o text_n of_o st._n paul_n act_v 17._o 24._o and_o rom._n 1._o 21._o explain_v some_o of_o the_o doctor_n be_v testimony_n examine_v in_o particular_a the_o relation_n he_o give_v of_o what_o the_o jesuit_n do_v in_o china_n pag._n 95._o chap._n 7._o of_o the_o 2d_o general_n council_n of_o nice_a call_v most_o irreverent_o by_o dr._n st._n that_o wise_a synod_n his_o constantinopolitan_a father_n objection_n answer_v by_o epiphanius_n and_o his_o answer_n show_v to_o be_v go●d_v pag._n 118._o chap._n 8._o the_o dr.'s_n objection_n from_o the_o council_n of_o frankford_n examine_v and_o show_v to_o be_v no_o advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n pag._n 140._o chap._n 9_o of_o the_o doctor_n be_v three_o proof_n from_o the_o judgement_n as_o he_o pretend_v of_o the_o lawgiver_n his_o speculation_n concern_v the_o golden_a calf_n manifest_o repugnant_a to_o the_o h._n scripture_n and_o father_n mr._n thorndike'_v judgement_n of_o the_o mean_v and_o extent_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n pag._n 153._o chap._n 10._o what_o kind_n of_o honour_n the_o church_n give_v to_o holy_a image_n explain_v and_o the_o doctor_n be_v mix_v school-disputes_a with_o matter_n of_o faith_n show_v to_o be_v sophistical_a pag._n 176._o chap._n 11._o of_o the_o instance_n bring_v to_o explicate_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o honour_n give_v to_o image_n from_o the_o like_a reverence_n give_v to_o the_o chair_n of_o state_n to_o the_o ground_n to_o the_o ark_n to_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n etc._n etc._n the_o weakness_n of_o the_o doctor_n be_v evasion_n lay_v open_a and_o his_o own_o argument_n return_v upon_o he_o pag._n 193._o part_n ii_o of_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o most_o bless_a sacrament_n chap._n 1._o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o this_o point_n the_o doctor_n be_v argument_n to_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v idolatry_n build_v upon_o a_o injurious_a calumny_n that_o catholic_n believe_v the_o bread_n to_o be_v god_n the_o sense_n of_o his_o first_o proposition_n clear_v and_o the_o proof_n he_o bring_v for_o it_o refute_v pag._n 221._o chap._n 2._o the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o controversy_n lay_v open_a together_o with_o the_o doctor_n be_v endeavour_v to_o misrepresent_v it_o his_o manner_n of_o argue_v against_o the_o adoration_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n equal_o destructive_a to_o the_o adoration_n of_o he_o as_o god_n pag._n 243._o chap._n 3._o of_o dr._n st.'s_n scruple_n about_o the_o host_n not_o be_v consecrate_v for_o want_n of_o intention_n in_o the_o priest_n and_o his_o mistake_n of_o the_o true_a reason_n of_o give_v adoration_n to_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n pag._n 256._o chap._n 4._o his_o fundamental_a principle_n of_o judge_v of_o matter_n propose_v to_o our_o belief_n by_o sense_n and_o reason_n show_v to_o be_v absurd_a in_o itself_o and_o destructive_a to_o christianity_n p._n 272._o chap._n 5._o a_o check_n to_o the_o doctor_n be_v big_a word_n against_o the_o ground_n of_o transubstantiation_n with_o a_o new_a example_n of_o report_v faithful_o as_o he_o call_v it_o the_o word_n and_o sense_n of_o a_o author_n pag._n 294._o chap._n 6._o dr._n tailor_n be_v argument_n in_o behalf_n of_o catholic_n suppose_v they_o mistake_v in_o the_o belief_n of_o transubstantiation_n not_o answer_v by_o dr._n st._n the_o parallel_n of_o such_o a_o suppose_a mistake_n with_o that_o of_o idolater_n show_v to_o be_v a_o real_a and_o very_a gross_a mistake_n in_o himself_o pag._n 317._o part_n iii_o of_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n chap._n 1._o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o this_o point_n suppose_v by_o dr._n st._n to_o be_v idolatry_n but_o not_o prove_v the_o disparity_n between_o the_o worship_n give_v by_o catholic_n to_o the_o saint_n and_o that_o of_o the_o heathen_n to_o their_o inferior_a deity_n lay_v open_a pag._n 333._o chap._n 2._o what_o kind_n of_o honour_n catholic_n give_v to_o the_o saint_n the_o testimony_n of_o origen_n and_o st._n ambrose_n explain_v of_o the_o practice_n of_o make_v address_n to_o particular_a saint_n pag._n 353._o chap._n 3._o what_o kind_n of_o worship_n of_o angel_n be_v condemn_v by_o st._n paul_n theodoret_n etc._n etc._n with_o a_o far_o display_v of_o the_o disparity_n between_o the_o heathen_n worship_n of_o their_o inferior_a deity_n and_o that_o give_v by_o catholic_n to_o holy_a angel_n and_o saint_n pag._n 377._o chap._n 4._o of_o the_o term_n formal_a invocation_n and_o the_o different_a form_n use_v in_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n some_o instance_n out_o of_o the_o father_n to_o show_v the_o like_a to_o have_v be_v use_v in_o their_o time_n pag._n 397._o chap._n 5._o the_o disparity_n assign_v by_o dr._n st._n between_o desire_v the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n and_o holy_a man_n upon_o earth_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o show_v to_o be_v insignificant_a pag._n 414._o chap._n 6._o of_o the_o practice_n of_o christian_a people_n in_o st._n augustine_n time_n in_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n pag._n 430._o the_o two_o question_n whence_o dr._n still_o take_v 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this_o great_a confusion_n what_o ground_n of_o certainty_n have_v i_o to_o stand_v upon_o whereby_o to_o secure_v my_o mind_n from_o the_o commission_n of_o a_o great_a sin_n while_o i_o be_o in_o this_o labyrinth_n behold_v a_o kind_n catholic_n offer_v to_o give_v i_o case_n and_o tell_v i_o these_o be_v doubt_n and_o scruple_n i_o ought_v not_o to_o trouble_v myself_o about_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o present_a church_n be_v sufficient_a for_o i_o but_o how_o shall_v i_o know_v what_o he_o mean_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o present_a church_n for_o i_o find_v catholic_n themselves_o be_v not_o agree_v about_o that_o neither_o may_v i_o be_v sure_a if_o the_o pope_n who_o be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n say_v it_o no_o not_o unless_o he_o define_v it_o but_o may_v i_o be_v sure_a then_o no_o not_o unless_o a_o general_n council_n concur_v but_o may_v i_o be_v sure_a if_o a_o general_n council_n determin_n it_o yes_o if_o it_o be_v confirm_v whole_o by_o the_o pope_n and_o 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the_o true_a reason_n of_o give_v adoration_n to_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n §_o 1._o the_o doctor_n be_v next_o scruple_n be_v about_o the_o priest_n intention_n or_o rather_o not_o intention_n to_o consecrate_v and_o i_o confess_v i_o never_o meet_v with_o any_o man_n so_o uneven_o scrupulous_a as_o he_o be_v that_o be_v so_o resolute_a in_o some_o case_n be_v he_o of_o our_o mind_n as_o in_o say_v his_o prayer_n to_o the_o sun_n and_o offer_v up_o the_o host_n to_o a_o image_n and_o yet_o so_o timorous_a in_o other_o as_o in_o this_o of_o not_o dare_v to_o adore_v christ_n himself_o be_v he_o of_o our_o mind_n in_o the_o point_n of_o transubstantiation_n as_o suppose_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n for_o fear_v the_o host_n shall_v not_o be_v consecrate_v through_o defect_n or_o malice_n of_o the_o priest_n suppose_v say_v he_o p._n 123._o i_o be_o satisfy_v in_o the_o point_n of_o transubstantiation_n by_o which_o you_o see_v he_o set_v himself_o to_o fight_v against_o 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which_o torment_v his_o mind_n and_o although_o the_o absurdness_n of_o the_o assertion_n that_o another_o man_n defect_n or_o wickedness_n shall_v make_v i_o incur_v the_o crime_n of_o idolatry_n whether_o i_o will_v or_o no_o may_v suffice_v to_o make_v any_o reasonable_a man_n to_o depose_v so_o chimaerical_a a_o scruple_n yet_o because_o he_o will_v not_o or_o can_v do_v it_o i_o will_v ask_v he_o what_o kind_n of_o certainty_n it_o be_v he_o will_v have_v if_o no_o less_o than_o certainty_n of_o faith_n or_o evidence_n of_o sense_n will_v serve_v his_o turn_n i_o will_v ask_v again_o what_o like_o certainty_n have_v a_o child_n or_o a_o husband_n that_o those_o person_n who_o they_o take_v the_o one_o for_o his_o father_n the_o other_o for_o his_o wife_n be_v so_o in_o very_a deed_n i_o can_v believe_v he_o so_o rigid_a a_o casuist_n as_o neither_o to_o permit_v a_o child_n to_o do_v his_o duty_n to_o his_o mother_n husband_n till_o he_o have_v a_o divine_a revelation_n that_o 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wheadle_n a_o second_o man_n to_o marry_v she_o while_o her_o husband_n unknown_a to_o he_o be_v yet_o alive_a it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o nature_n of_o man_n to_o sin_n so_o frequent_o out_o of_o pure_a malice_n as_o it_o be_v upon_o the_o account_n of_o some_o profit_n or_o pleasure_n thence_o result_v why_o then_o must_v we_o be_v more_o guilty_a of_o idolatry_n though_o the_o host_n through_o defect_n or_o malice_n on_o the_o priest_n side_n shall_v happen_v not_o to_o be_v true_o consecrate_v than_o such_o a_o person_n be_v of_o adultery_n or_o a_o child_n of_o undutifulness_n for_o have_v their_o own_o good_a intention_n abuse_v by_o the_o malice_n of_o other_o wantonness_n may_v make_v a_o wife_n forget_v her_o duty_n but_o do_v not_o make_v a_o child_n criminal_a in_o do_v he_o to_o he_o who_o he_o believe_v to_o be_v his_o father_n and_o the_o wickedness_n of_o a_o priest_n as_o there_o be_v one_o judas_n among_o the_o twelve_o may_v make_v he_o a_o devil_n but_o that_o can_v 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