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whitgifte_n let_v the_o reader_n judge_n whether_o it_o be_v one_o of_o their_o reason_n or_o no_o let_v they_o also_o consider_v that_o which_o i_o have_v before_o allege_v out_o of_o the_o second_o admonition_n pag._n 35._o &_o then_o tell_v i_o whether_o they_o take_v we_o for_o brethren_n or_o no._n can_v you_o so_o well_o please_v yourselves_o in_o your_o own_o platform_n y_z t_z except_o we_o admit_v it_o we_o refuse_v christ_n to_o reign_v over_o we_o i_o trust_v he_o have_v reign_v over_o we_o hitherto_o and_o shall_v do_v to_o the_o end_n though_o your_o platform_n be_v sink_v to_o the_o bottom_n of_o the_o sea_n an_fw-mi answer_v to_o certain_a pamphlet_n to_o their_o second_o reason_n i_o answer_v that_o i_o think_v they_o have_v be_v talk_v with_o and_o hear_v what_o they_o have_v to_o say_v for_o themselves_o but_o their_o haughty_a mind_n and_o good_a opinion_n conceyve_v of_o themselves_o will_v not_o suffer_v they_o to_o see_v their_o error_n in_o this_o reason_n you_o 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