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corda_fw-la eorum_fw-la per_fw-la fidem_fw-la charitatem_fw-la &_o gratiam_fw-la mihi_fw-la inseparabiliter_fw-la connectendo_fw-la ita_fw-la ut_fw-la omnes_fw-la sint_fw-la unum_fw-la corpus_fw-la mysticum_fw-la unaque_fw-la domus_fw-la carth._n in_o matth._n xvi_o art_n 26._o bring_v in_o christ_n thus_o speak_v i_o will_v build_v and_o confirm_v my_o church_n that_o be_v the_o congregation_n of_o the_o faithful_a by_o inseparable_o unite_n their_o heart_n to_o i_o by_o faith_n charity_n and_o grace_n so_o as_o all_o may_v be_v one_o mystical_a body_n and_o one_o house_n j._n fr._n picus_n mirandula_n 13._o mirandula_n a_o propriâ_fw-la vocabuli_fw-la significatione_n recedendum_fw-la ipse_fw-la non_fw-la putarem_fw-la ut_fw-la primò_fw-la &_o propriè_fw-la principalissimeque_fw-la sancta_fw-la catholica_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la diceretur_fw-la quae_fw-la omnes_fw-la rectae_fw-la &_o apostolicae_fw-la fidei_fw-la &_o non_fw-la fictae_fw-la charitatis_fw-la homines_fw-la 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of_o great_a moment_n for_o if_o the_o second_o or_o especial_o the_o three_o opinion_n be_v true_a the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o adversary_n will_v be_v whole_o overthrow_v for_o not_o to_o say_v that_o if_o sinner_n be_v exclude_v out_o of_o the_o church_n the_o pope_n and_o whole_a council_n may_v perhaps_o not_o belong_v to_o it_o and_o so_o want_v that_o infallibility_n which_o be_v appropriate_v to_o the_o true_a church_n to_o omit_v this_o since_o we_o treat_v not_o now_o of_o active_a but_o passive_a infallibility_n i_o say_v that_o according_a to_o this_o hypothesis_n the_o faith_n of_o our_o adversary_n can_v rely_v upon_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n for_o to_o conform_v themselves_o to_o this_o rule_n of_o faith_n they_o must_v first_o perfect_o know_v it_o which_o can_v be_v if_o they_o know_v not_o what_o be_v that_o church_n who_o faith_n they_o ought_v to_o follow_v but_o how_o shall_v they_o know_v the_o church_n if_o that_o consist_v only_o of_o 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xxv_o that_o our_o adversary_n have_v no_o way_n of_o know_v the_o true_a church_n it_o do_v not_o appear_v therefore_o who_o they_o be_v that_o true_o belong_v to_o the_o church_n yet_o suppose_v it_o be_v and_o that_o all_o baptise_a person_n outward_o profess_v the_o true_a faith_n be_v member_n of_o it_o which_o opinion_n most_o please_v our_o adversary_n and_o be_v most_o advantageous_a for_o they_o it_o be_v still_o to_o be_v inquire_v which_o out_o of_o so_o many_o society_n that_o challenge_v to_o themselves_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n just_o and_o true_o claim_v it_o for_o not_o any_o one_o that_o first_o occurr_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v and_o prefer_v before_o the_o rest_n but_o here_o if_o any_o where_o a_o diligent_a and_o accurate_a examination_n be_v to_o be_v use_v lest_o instead_o of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n we_o follow_v the_o synagogue_n of_o satan_n and_o for_o divine_a revelation_n receive_v execrable_a error_n this_o especial_o become_v they_o who_o when_o they_o have_v find_v the_o church_n give_v over_o any_o further_a enquiry_n and_o receive_v without_o examination_n all_o the_o dictate_v of_o it_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v very_o vigilant_a and_o curious_a in_o the_o choice_n of_o their_o guide_n lest_o if_o they_o haply_o mistake_v they_o incur_v that_o sentence_n of_o christ_n if_o the_o blind_a lead_v the_o blind_a both_o will_v fall_v into_o the_o ditch_n let_v we_o see_v therefore_o whether_o our_o adversary_n can_v boast_v they_o have_v make_v a_o just_a and_o accurate_a enquiry_n herein_o and_o most_o certain_o find_v out_o the_o true_a church_n there_o be_v chief_o three_o method_n of_o make_v this_o enquiry_n 1._o from_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o doctrine_n profess_v by_o any_o church_n and_o conformity_n of_o that_o to_o the_o word_n of_o god._n 2._o by_o note_n know_v only_o by_o the_o light_n of_o right_a reason_n and_o independent_o from_o the_o word_n of_o god._n 3._o by_o note_n which_o be_v mark_v out_o and_o teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n arriaga_n prefer_v the_o first_o method_n before_o all_o other_o i_o answer_v say_v he_o 5._o he_o respondeo_fw-la veritatem_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la probari_fw-la etiam_fw-la posse_fw-la non_fw-la recurrendo_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la imò_fw-la ante_fw-la primam_fw-la probationem_fw-la verae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la debere_fw-la probari_fw-la veritatem_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la etenim_fw-la cum_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ut_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la definiatur_fw-la per_fw-la hoc_fw-la quòd_fw-la sit_fw-la coetus_fw-la profitentium_fw-la veram_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la fidei_fw-la repugnat_fw-la in_o terminis_fw-la i_o supponere_fw-la aliquam_fw-la congregationem_fw-la esse_fw-la veram_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la nisi_fw-la dicam_fw-la eo_fw-la ipso_fw-la ibi_fw-la esse_fw-la veram_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la ergo_fw-la non_fw-la possum_fw-la primò_fw-la probare_fw-la veram_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la ex_fw-la verâ_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la arr._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la disp_n 7._o sect._n 5._o that_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o doctrine_n may_v be_v prove_v without_o recur_v to_o the_o church_n yea_o and_o that_o before_o the_o first_o proof_n of_o the_o true_a church_n the_o truth_n of_o the_o doctrine_n ought_v to_o be_v prove_v he_o prove_v both_o part_n of_o his_o assertion_n large_o and_o in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o it_o make_v use_v of_o this_o argument_n for_o since_o the_o church_n as_o a_o church_n be_v define_v the_o congregation_n of_o man_n profess_v the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o faith_n it_o be_v a_o contradiction_n in_o the_o very_a term_n to_o suppose_v any_o congregation_n to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n unless_o i_o do_v for_o that_o very_a reason_n suppose_v there_o be_v the_o true_a doctrine_n i_o can_v therefore_o first_o prove_v the_o doctrine_n be_v true_a from_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o church_n to_o this_o we_o willing_o subscribe_v and_o approve_v this_o method_n of_o arriaga_n only_a not_o so_o the_o rest_n of_o our_o adversary_n who_o detest_v it_o 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he_o ecclesia_fw-la autem_fw-la latinorum_n non_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la vniversalis_fw-la sed_fw-la quaedam_fw-la pars_fw-la ejus_fw-la ideo_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la tota_fw-la ipsa_fw-la errâsset_fw-la non_fw-la errabat_fw-la eccl._n universalis_fw-la quia_fw-la manet_fw-la eccl._n universalis_fw-la in_o partibus_fw-la istis_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la errant_a five_o illa_fw-la fint_fw-la plures_fw-la numero_fw-la quà m_fw-la errantes_fw-la sine_fw-la non_fw-la tost_n in_o 2._o prol._n hier._n in_o matth._n qu._n 4._o the_o latin_a church_n be_v not_o the_o universal_a church_n but_o only_o a_o part_n of_o it_o therefore_o although_o that_o have_v whole_o err_v the_o universal_a church_n will_v not_o have_v err_v because_o it_o remain_v in_o those_o part_n which_o do_v not_o err_v whether_o they_o be_v more_o or_o few_o in_o number_n than_o the_o part_n which_o do_v err_v so_o canus_n 5._o canus_n at_o nihil_fw-la obstat_fw-la cur_n major_a ecclesiae_fw-la pars_fw-la non_fw-la erret_fw-la can._n loc_fw-la theol._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 5._o nothing_o hinder_v but_o that_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o church_n may_v err_v bannes_n 4._o bannes_n sententia_fw-la majoris_fw-la partis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la potest_fw-la esse_fw-la falsa_fw-la in_o materia_fw-la fidei_fw-la bann_n in_o 2.2_o qu._n 1._o art_n 10._o dub_v 4._o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o church_n may_v be_v false_a in_o a_o matter_n of_o faith._n valentia_n consider_v those_o word_n of_o christ_n when_o the_o son_n of_o man_n come_v shall_v he_o find_v faith_n upon_o the_o earth_n say_v 16._o say_v significat_fw-la paucissimos_fw-la certè_fw-la fore_fw-la postremo_fw-la illo_fw-la tempore_fw-la fideles_fw-la non_fw-la autem_fw-la nullos_fw-la val_n tom_n 3._o disp_n 1._o qu._n 1._o punct_a 7._o 7._o 16._o he_o signify_v that_o there_o will_v be_v very_o few_o faithful_a in_o that_o last_o time_n not_o that_o there_o will_v be_v none_o and_o bellarmin_n 16._o bellarmin_n 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he_o sic_fw-la potest_fw-la dici_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la quòd_fw-la potest_fw-la seruari_fw-la in_o uno_fw-la prout_fw-la dicitur_fw-la de_fw-la mariâ_fw-la virg._n quòd_fw-la in_o eâ_fw-la solâ_fw-la in_o triduo_fw-la sepulturae_fw-la mansit_fw-la fides_fw-la explicita_fw-la de_fw-la divinitate_fw-la christi_fw-la quamvis_fw-la multi_fw-la alii_fw-la per_fw-la judaeam_fw-la existentes_fw-la habere_fw-la possent_fw-la fidem_fw-la catholicam_fw-la actualem_fw-la &_o implicitam_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la explicitam_fw-la de_fw-la divinitate_fw-la christi_fw-la vig._n instit_fw-la theol._n c._n 10._o that_o it_o may_v be_v preserve_v in_o one_o person_n as_o it_o be_v say_v of_o the_o v._o mary_n that_o in_o she_o only_o during_o the_o three_o day_n of_o burial_n remain_v explicit_a faith_n touch_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n although_o many_o other_o in_o judea_n may_v have_v actual_a and_o implicit_a catholic_n faith_n but_o not_o explicit_a of_o the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n 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