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A66150 A defence of the exposition of the doctrine of the Church of England against the exceptions of Monsieur de Meaux, late Bishop of Condom, and his vindicator : the contents are in the next leaf. Wake, William, 1657-1737. 1686 (1686) Wing W236; ESTC R524 126,770 228

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honour_v they_o we_o do_v but_o that_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n require_v more_o not_o only_o to_o honour_n but_o worship_v they_o too_o so_o i_o render_v their_o venerari_fw-la whether_o well_o or_o ill_o be_v now_o the_o question_n and_o first_o i_o observe_v that_o in_o the_o very_a point_n before_o we_o 54._o thom._n 3._o p._n q._n 25._o art_n 6._o pag._n 54._o their_o own_o st._n thomas_n give_v the_o very_a same_o interpretation_n to_o the_o same_o word_n for_o have_v propose_v the_o question_n in_o these_o term_n whether_o the_o relic_n of_o saint_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v adorandae_fw-la utrum_fw-la reliquiae_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la sint_fw-la adorandae_fw-la he_o conclude_v it_o in_o the_o term_n of_o the_o council_n see_v we_o venerate_v the_o saint_n of_o god_n we_o must_v also_o venerate_v their_o body_n and_o relic_n and_o again_o in_o his_o second_o objection_n against_o this_o conclusion_n etc._n conclus_fw-la cum_fw-la sanctos_fw-la dei_fw-la veneremur_fw-la corum_fw-la quoque_fw-la corpora_fw-la &_o reliquias_fw-la venerari_fw-la oporter_fw-la sec._n obj._n stultum_fw-la videtur_fw-la rem_fw-la insensibilem_fw-la venerari_fw-la resp_n ad_fw-la secund_a dicend_v quod_fw-la corpus_fw-la illud_fw-la insensibile_fw-la non_fw-la adoramus_fw-la propter_fw-la scipsum_fw-la sed_fw-la etc._n etc._n he_o argue_v against_o the_o adoration_n of_o relic_n thus_o it_o seem_v very_o foolish_a to_o venerate_v a_o insensible_a thing_n to_o which_o he_o reply_v thus_o we_o do_v not_o adore_v the_o insensible_a thing_n for_o itself_o etc._n etc._n from_o all_o which_o it_o be_v beyond_o dispute_v evident_a that_o by_o the_o veneration_n thomas_n understand_v adoration_n of_o relic_n second_o that_o it_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o their_o church_n that_o reliqve_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v their_o great_a author_n render_v it_o beyond_o denial_n evident_a debeanius_fw-la evident_a vasquez_n in_o 3._o p._n d._n th._n disp_n 112._o p._n 808._o propose_v this_o question_n a_o corpora_fw-la &_o aliae_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la reliquiae_fw-la venerandae_fw-la sint_fw-la to_o this_o he_o answer_v c._n 2._o p._n 809._o apud_fw-la catholicos_fw-la veritas_fw-la indubitata_fw-la est_fw-la reliquias_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la sive_fw-la fuerint_fw-la part_n ipsorum_fw-la ut_fw-la ossa_fw-la carnes_n &_o cineres_fw-la five_o res_fw-la aliae_fw-la quae_fw-la ipsos_fw-la tetigerunt_fw-la vel_fw-la ad_fw-la ipsos_fw-la pertineant_fw-la adorandas_fw-la &_o in_o honort_n sacro_fw-la habendas_fw-la esse_fw-la and_o again_o disp_n 113._o c._n 1._o p._n 816._o cum_fw-la ergo_fw-la jam_fw-la contra_fw-la haereticos_fw-la constitutum_fw-la sit_fw-la reliquias_fw-la esse_fw-la adorandas_fw-la superest_fw-la explicare_fw-la quo_fw-la genere_fw-la cultûs_fw-la &_o honoris_fw-la eas_fw-la venerari_fw-la debeanius_fw-la vasquez_n in_o his_o disputation_n upon_o thomas_n tell_v we_o it_o be_v say_v he_o among_o the_o pretend_a catholic_n a_o truth_n not_o to_o be_v doubt_v of_o that_o the_o reliqve_n of_o saint_n whether_o they_o be_v any_o part_n of_o they_o as_o bones_o flesh_n or_o ash_n or_o any_o other_o thing_n that_o have_v touch_v they_o or_o belong_v to_o they_o aught_o to_o be_v adore_v and_o in_o conclusion_n say_v that_o he_o have_v prove_v against_o heretic_n that_o relic_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v and_o this_o too_o in_o answer_n to_o the_o question_v propose_v in_o the_o very_a term_n of_o the_o council_n whether_o the_o body_n and_o other_o reliqve_n of_o saint_n ought_v to_o be_v venerate_v nor_o be_v this_o a_o scholastic_a tenet_n or_o to_o be_v put_v off_o with_o a_o impropriety_n of_o speech_n the_o messieurs_fw-fr du_fw-fr port_n royal_a be_v by_o all_o allow_v to_o have_v be_v some_o of_o the_o most_o learned_a man_n of_o their_o church_n that_o this_o last_o age_n have_v produce_v and_o too_o great_a critic_n in_o the_o french_a tongue_n to_o use_v any_o expression_n subject_a to_o ambiguity_n which_o that_o language_n so_o particular_o avoid_v the_o word_n adore_v in_o french_a be_v much_o more_o rare_o use_v to_o signify_v in_o general_a any_o honour_n or_o veneration_n than_o in_o the_o latin_a yet_o these_o very_a man_n in_o one_o of_o their_o treatise_n publish_v by_o they_o daillé_fw-fr they_o response_n à_fw-fr un_fw-fr ecrit_fw-fr publié_fw-fr sur_fw-fr les_fw-fr miracle_n de_fw-fr la_fw-fr sainte_n espine_n pag._n 15_o 18_o 22_o etc._n etc._n cite_v by_o mounseur_fw-fr daillé_fw-fr of_o the_o miracle_n of_o the_o holy_a thorn_n use_v this_o word_n to_o express_v the_o veneration_n they_o think_v due_a to_o they_o thus_o speak_v of_o one_o of_o the_o religious_a that_o be_v trouble_v with_o the_o palsy_n she_o be_v carry_v say_v they_o to_o the_o port_n royal_a to_o adore_v the_o holy_a thorn_n of_o another_o that_o have_v adore_v the_o holy_a thorn_n she_o be_v relieve_v of_o her_o infirmity_n they_o boast_v of_o the_o great_a multitude_n that_o frequent_v their_o church_n to_o adore_v the_o holy_a thorn_n and_o in_o one_o of_o their_o prayer_n which_o they_o teach_v their_o votary_n to_o say_v before_o it_o we_o adore_v thy_o crown_n o_o lord_n and_o now_o i_o suppose_v it_o be_v from_o all_o these_o instance_n sufficient_o evident_a 42._o vindicat._n p._n 42._o that_o i_o have_v reason_n to_o interpret_v venerari_fw-la in_o the_o council_n by_o worship_n in_o my_o exposition_n as_o for_o the_o other_o thing_n he_o charge_v i_o with_o that_o refer_v to_o the_o word_n of_o the_o council_n i_o shall_v make_v it_o say_v that_o these_o sacred_a monument_n be_v not_o unprofitable_o revere_v but_o be_v to_o be_v seek_v unto_o for_o the_o obtain_n of_o their_o help_n and_o assistance_n whereas_o indeed_o the_o council_n meaning_n be_v to_o obtain_v the_o help_n and_o assistance_n of_o the_o saint_n not_o the_o relic_n this_o be_v not_o my_o invention_n but_o his_o own_o cavil_v and_o his_o citation_n of_o the_o word_n of_o the_o council_n a_o trick_n to_o deceive_v those_o who_o understand_v it_o only_o in_o his_o translation_n for_o whereas_o he_o render_v it_o so_o that_o they_o who_o affirm_v that_o no_o veneration_n or_o honour_n be_v due_a to_o the_o relic_n of_o saint_n or_o that_o those_o relic_n and_o other_o sacred_a monument_n be_v unprofitable_o honour_v by_o the_o faithful_a or_o that_o they_o do_v in_o vain_a frequent_a the_o memory_n of_o the_o saint_n to_o the_o end_n they_o may_v obtain_v their_o aid_n the_o aid_n of_o the_o saint_n eorum_fw-la be_v to_o be_v condemn_v he_o have_v indeed_o transpose_v the_o latin_a on_o purpose_n to_o raise_v a_o dust_n and_o deceive_v his_o reader_n the_o true_a order_n be_v plain_o as_o i_o before_o render_v it_o esse_fw-la it_o ita_fw-la ut_fw-la affirmantes_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la reliquiis_fw-la venerationem_fw-la atque_fw-la honorem_fw-la non_fw-la deberi_fw-la vel_fw-la eas_fw-la aliáque_fw-la sacra_fw-la monumenta_fw-la inutiliter_fw-la honorari_fw-la atque_fw-la eorum_fw-la opis_fw-la impetrandae_fw-la causâ_fw-la memorias_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la frustra_fw-la frequentari_fw-la omnino_fw-la damnandos_fw-la esse_fw-la so_o that_o they_o who_o shall_v affirm_v that_o no_o worship_n or_o honour_n be_v due_a to_o the_o relic_n of_o saint_n or_o that_o these_o and_o the_o like_a sacred_a monument_n be_v unprofitable_o honour_v and_o that_o for_o the_o obtain_n of_o their_o help_n the_o help_n of_o these_o sacred_a monument_n eorum_fw-la the_o memory_n of_o the_o saint_n be_v unprofitable_o frequent_v be_v to_o be_v condemn_v this_o be_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o the_o council_n and_o for_o the_o instance_n i_o add_v for_o the_o explication_n of_o it_o they_o be_v the_o same_o by_o which_o their_o own_o catechism_n excite_v they_o to_o this_o worship_n and_o every_o day_n be_v experience_n show_v how_o zealous_o the_o people_n follow_v these_o relic_n in_o order_n to_o these_o ends._n article_n v._o of_o justification_n how_o far_o the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o justification_n be_v overrun_v with_o such_o abuse_n as_o i_o mention_v 46._o vindicat._n p._n 46._o at_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o reformation_n he_o must_v be_v very_o ignorant_a in_o the_o history_n of_o those_o time_n that_o need_v to_o be_v inform_v i_o do_v not_o at_o all_o wonder_n that_o the_o vindicator_n deny_v these_o thing_n who_o know_v very_o well_o how_o far_o the_o interest_n of_o his_o church_n be_v concern_v in_o it_o but_o sure_o i_o be_o a_o confident_a denial_n which_o be_v all_o the_o proof_n he_o bring_v will_v satisfy_v none_o but_o those_o who_o think_v themselves_o oblige_v to_o receive_v the_o tradition_n of_o their_o church_n with_o the_o same_o blindness_n in_o matter_n of_o fact_n that_o they_o be_v require_v to_o do_v it_o in_o point_n of_o faith_n as_o to_o the_o present_a article_n before_o we_o two_o thing_n there_o be_v that_o he_o doubt_v i_o shall_v be_v hardly_o put_v to_o prove_v 47._o vindicat._n p._n 47._o one_o that_o it_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o church_n to_o distinguish_v between_o justification_n and_o sanctification_n though_o the_o 11_o and_o 12_o article_n of_o our_o church_n do_v clear_o imply_v it_o and_o our_o 1683._o our_o pag._n 12._o the_o
9_o consult_v cassandr_n add_v to_o these_o inter_fw-la veteres_n scriptorem_fw-la quaestionum_fw-la ad_fw-la antiochum_fw-la quae_fw-la athanasio_fw-la tribuuntur_fw-la nazianzenum_fw-la de_fw-fr s._n baptismate_fw-la duobus_fw-la locis_fw-la &_o scholiastem_fw-la ejus_fw-la nicetam_fw-la father_n themselves_o have_v many_o of_o they_o declare_v for_o this_o doctrine_n even_o st._n 4._o st._n sed_fw-la &_o ipsum_fw-la augustinum_n antequam_fw-la in_o certamine_fw-la cum_fw-la pelagio_n incalesceret_fw-la l._n 3._o de_fw-fr lib._n arb_n c._n 23._o locum_fw-la joan._n 3._o intelligendum_fw-la de_fw-la iis_fw-la qui_fw-la possunt_fw-la &_o contemnunt_fw-la baptizari_fw-la asserit_fw-la lombard_n l._n 4._o do_v 4._o augustine_n himself_o not_o except_v till_o his_o dispute_n with_o pelagius_n provoke_v he_o to_o deny_v that_o which_o in_o his_o cool_a thought_n he_o have_v more_o reasonable_o allow_v before_o article_n x._o of_o confirmation_n in_o the_o article_n of_o confirmation_n 63._o vindicat._n p._n 63._o i_o affirm_v that_o several_a of_o their_o own_o party_n have_v deny_v the_o divine_a institution_n of_o this_o pretend_a sacrament_n and_o that_o neither_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n or_o their_o catechism_n have_v offer_v any_o thing_n to_o prove_v it_o the_o vindicator_n reply_v that_o my_o confession_n that_o the_o apostle_n use_v imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o that_o when_o our_o bishop_n after_o their_o example_n do_v the_o like_a and_o pray_v for_o the_o blessing_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n upon_o we_o we_o pious_o hope_v that_o their_o prayer_n be_v hear_v be_v a_o sufficient_a proof_n of_o a_o outward_a visible_a sign_n of_o a_o inward_a and_o spiritul_n grace_n have_v i_o indeed_o affirm_v that_o the_o apostle_n have_v institute_v this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n to_o be_v continue_v in_o the_o church_n and_o promise_v that_o the_o grace_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n shall_v certain_o descend_v at_o their_o do_v of_o it_o for_o all_o those_o great_a end_n our_o prayer_n design_n this_o may_v have_v make_v confirmation_n look_v somewhat_o like_o a_o sacrament_n to_o us._n but_o to_o argue_v from_o a_o mere_a indifferent_a ceremony_n continue_v only_o in_o imitation_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o to_o which_o no_o blessing_n be_v ascribe_v that_o may_v not_o equal_o be_v allow_v to_o any_o other_o the_o like_a prayer_n and_o then_o cry_v out_o that_o this_o must_v needs_o argue_v the_o divine_a institution_n of_o it_o because_o none_o but_o god_n can_v promise_v grace_n to_o a_o outward_a sign_n this_o be_v in_o effect_n to_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o be_v say_v for_o it_o it_o be_v wonderful_a to_o see_v with_o what_o confidence_n those_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n urge_v the_o apostle_n imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o proof_n of_o confirmation_n as_o it_o be_v now_o practise_v among_o they_o in_o which_o there_o be_v not_o any_o the_o least_o resemblance_n our_o bishop_n lay_v on_o hand_n after_o their_o example_n but_o for_o they_o they_o anoint_v make_v cross_n in_o the_o forehead_n tie_v a_o fillet_n about_o their_o head_n give_v they_o a_o box_n on_o the_o ear_n etc._n etc._n for_o which_o there_o be_v neither_o promise_n precept_n nor_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o for_o imposition_n of_o hand_n the_o only_a thing_n they_o do_v this_o they_o have_v resolve_v to_o be_v but_o a_o 81._o a_o so_o estius_n in_o 4._o sent._n do_v 7._o §._o 7._o p._n 81._o accidental_a ceremony_n and_o according_o have_v in_o their_o cessâsse_fw-la their_o so_o the_o same_o estius_n prove_v from_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n in_o quo_fw-la say_v he_o legitur_fw-la quòd_fw-la loco_fw-la illius_fw-la manùs_fw-la impositionis_fw-la per_fw-la quam_fw-la apostoli_fw-la dabant_fw-la spiritum_fw-la s._n in_fw-la ecclefiâ_fw-la datur_fw-la confirmatio_fw-la cujus_fw-la materia_fw-la est_fw-la chrisma_n exit_fw-la quibus_fw-la verbis_fw-la utrumque_fw-la colligitur_fw-la &_o initio_fw-la necessariam_fw-la fuisse_fw-la manuum_fw-la impositionem_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la necessitate_v &_o eandem_fw-la ejus_fw-la necessitatem_fw-la signaculo_fw-la chrismatis_fw-la introducto_fw-la cessâsse_fw-la practice_n whole_o lay_v it_o by_o article_n xi_o of_o penance_n that_o penance_n be_v not_o true_o and_o proper_o a_o sacrament_n 64._o vindicat._n p._n 64._o nor_o be_v ever_o esteem_v so_o by_o the_o primitive_a church_n i_o at_o large_a prove_v in_o my_o exposition_n of_o it_o and_o the_o vindicator_n have_v not_o in_o his_o reply_n advance_v any_o one_o thing_n to_o answer_v the_o objection_n that_o be_v bring_v against_o it_o he_o allow_v public_a confession_n to_o have_v be_v a_o part_n of_o discipline_n only_o and_o alterable_a at_o pleasure_n 65._o ibid._n p._n 65._o but_o then_o affirm_v that_o either_o public_a or_o private_a be_v always_o necessary_a and_o this_o we_o be_v to_o take_v of_o he_o upon_o his_o own_o word_n in_o short_a he_o repeat_v the_o sum_n of_o their_o doctrine_n to_o we_o 67._o ibid._n p._n 67._o and_o then_o as_o if_o he_o have_v do_v his_o business_n this_o say_v he_o we_o have_v always_o hold_v and_o practise_v and_o this_o we_o affirm_v to_o be_v conformable_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o most_o ancient_a and_o orthodox_n church_n and_o add_v that_o he_o be_v astonish_v at_o our_o rejection_n of_o it_o all_o which_o stuff_n be_v easy_o say_v and_o may_v with_o the_o same_o ease_n and_o reasonableness_n be_v deny_v and_o therefore_o to_o conclude_v this_o in_o a_o word_n if_o ever_o he_o get_v so_o well_o out_o of_o his_o astonishment_n as_o to_o come_v to_o his_o reason_n again_o and_o will_v then_o undertake_v to_o prove_v penance_n to_o be_v true_o and_o proper_o a_o sacrament_n institute_v by_o christ_n and_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n either_o in_o act_n or_o desire_n he_o shall_v not_o fail_v of_o a_o ingenuous_a reply_n to_o his_o argument_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n i_o have_v before_o show_v that_o we_o 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of_o cure_v the_o sick_a he_o say_v be_v not_o give_v to_o all_o priest_n and_o elder_n alike_o but_o only_o to_o some_o select_a person_n if_o this_o be_v true_a it_o be_v then_o best_o like_o st._n james_n intention_n that_o they_o shall_v send_v for_o those_o priest_n to_o who_o it_o be_v give_v and_o however_o some_o other_o may_v have_v this_o grace_n yet_o certain_o it_o be_v principal_o at_o least_o give_v to_o the_o priest_n and_o elder_n for_o the_o honour_n and_o benefit_n of_o their_o ministry_n these_o do_v not_o only_o cure_v the_o sick_a but_o the_o lame_a and_o the_o blind_a and_o therefore_o he_o will_v i_o suppose_v have_v have_v st._n james_n take_v notice_n of_o these_o two_o he_o may_v have_v add_v the_o dead_a likewise_o for_o those_o who_o heal_v the_o lame_a and_o the_o blind_a raise_v the_o dead_a also_o but_o what_o if_o st._n james_n word_n be_v lame_a be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d answer_v to_o the_o hebrew_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o signify_v all_o sort_n of_o infirmity_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v no_o unheard_a of_o phrase_n for_o be_v lame_a general_a and_o may_v very_o well_o be_v extend_v to_o all_o these_o yet_o since_o these_o gift_n be_v but_o rare_a in_o the_o church_n in_o respect_n of_o that_o the_o apostle_n here_o speak_v of_o and_o do_v evident_o belong_v to_o a_o great_a power_n we_o deny_v his_o supposition_n that_o those_o who_o ordinary_o cure_v the_o sick_a by_o anoint_v have_v also_o the_o power_n to_o heal_v the_o lame_a and_o the_o blind_a their_o power_n of_o miracle_n be_v not_o tie_v to_o unction_n only_o 6.13_o mark_v 6.13_o but_o yet_o since_o we_o find_v in_o st._n mark_n that_o this_o be_v the_o ordinary_a sign_n what_o wonder_v if_o st._n james_n describe_v it_o by_o that_o which_o be_v the_o most_o common_a and_o frequent_a among_o they_o all_o those_o that_o be_v anoint_v be_v not_o cure_v this_o be_v false_a 69._o vindicat._n p._n 69._o and_o can_v be_v maintain_v without_o dishonour_n to_o that_o spirit_n by_o which_o
this_o be_v that_o we_o be_v to_o inquire_v into_o let_v we_o see_v whether_o the_o authority_n i_o have_v bring_v have_v not_o the_o force_n i_o pretend_v against_o their_o tenet_n and_o 1._o lombard_n write_v about_o this_o conversion_n plain_o show_v it_o to_o have_v be_v undetermined_a in_o his_o time_n for_o have_v first_o assert_v the_o real_a presence_n in_o this_o sacrament_n and_o the_o change_n which_o he_o suppose_v be_v make_v upon_o that_o account_n he_o go_v on_o to_o that_o which_o the_o 92._o the_o vind._n p._n 92._o vindicator_n be_v please_v to_o call_v a_o scholastic_a nicety_n and_o it_o be_v indeed_o at_o that_o time_n no_o other_o though_o since_o become_v a_o matter_n of_o faith_n etc._n lombard_n l._n 4._o d._n 11._o light_v a._n p._n 736._o de_fw-fr modis_fw-la conversionis_fw-la si_fw-mi autem_fw-la quaeritur_fw-la qualis_fw-la sit_fw-la illa_fw-la conuersio_fw-la a_o formalis_fw-la a_o substantialis_fw-la vel_fw-la alterius_fw-la generis_fw-la desinire_fw-la non_fw-la sustineo_fw-la quibusdam_fw-la esse_fw-la videtur_fw-la substantia_fw-la be_v etc._n etc._n viz._n what_o kind_n of_o conversion_n be_v there_o make_v whether_o formal_a or_o substantial_a or_o what_o else_o and_o for_o this_o he_o tell_v we_o free_o he_o be_v not_o able_a to_o define_v it_o that_o some_o have_v think_v it_o to_o be_v a_o substantial_a change_n but_o for_o his_o part_n he_o will_v not_o undertake_v to_o determine_v it_o but_o two_o scotus_n be_v yet_o more_o free_a 63._o free_a dicendum_fw-la say_v scotus_n quod_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la declaravit_fw-la istum_fw-la intellectum_fw-la esse_fw-la de_fw-la veritate_fw-la fidei_fw-la si_fw-mi quaeras_fw-la quare_fw-la voluit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la eligere_fw-la istum_fw-la intellectum_fw-la ita_fw-la difficilem_fw-la huius_fw-la articuli_fw-la cum_fw-la verba_fw-la scripturae_fw-la possint_fw-la salvari_fw-la secundum_fw-la intellectum_fw-la facilem_fw-la &_o vericrem_fw-la secundum_fw-la apparentiam_fw-la dico_fw-la quod_fw-la eo_fw-la spiritu_fw-la expositae_fw-la sunt_fw-la scripturae_fw-la quo_fw-la conditae_fw-la see_v 4._o sent._n d._n 11._o q._n 3._o p._n 63._o he_o declare_v our_o interpretation_n contrary_a to_o transubstantiation_n to_o be_v the_o more_o easy_a and_o to_o all_o appearance_n the_o more_o true_a insomuch_o that_o the_o church_n authority_n be_v the_o d._n the_o and_o before_o in_o sect._n quantum_fw-la ergo_fw-la he_o profess_v principaliter_fw-la autem_fw-la videtur_fw-la i_o movere_fw-la quod_fw-la sic_fw-la tenet_fw-la romana_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la in_o a_o word_n bellarmine_n himself_o cite_v scotus_n for_o this_o opinion_n non_fw-la extare_fw-la locum_fw-la ullum_fw-la scripturae_fw-la tam_fw-la expressum_fw-la ut_fw-la sine_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la declaratione_fw-la evidenter_fw-la cogat_fw-la transubstantiationem_fw-la admittere_fw-la bell._n de_fw-fr euch._n l._n 3._o c._n 23._o p._n 767._o l._n d._n principal_a thing_n that_o move_v he_o to_o receive_v their_o doctrine_n transubstantiationem_fw-la doctrine_n and_o again_o p._n 768_o l._n a._n unum_n tamen_fw-la addit_fw-la scotus_n quod_fw-la minime_fw-la probandum_fw-la est_fw-la ante_fw-la lateranense_fw-la concilium_fw-la non_fw-la fuisse_fw-la dogma_fw-la fidei_fw-la transubstantiationem_fw-la he_o tell_v we_o that_o this_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v not_o very_a ancient_n nor_o any_o matter_n of_o faith_n before_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n all_o which_o the_o vindicator_n himself_o do_v in_o effect_n confess_v the_o same_o be_v 88_o vind._n p._n 88_o 3_o affirm_v by_o docet_fw-la by_o suarez_n in_o 3_o part_n d._n th._n vol._n 3_o disp_n 50._o §_o 1._o p._n 593._o sacramentum_fw-la eucharistiae_fw-la conficitur_fw-la per_fw-la veram_fw-la conversionem_fw-la panis_n &_o vini_n in_o corpus_n &_o sanguinem_fw-la christi_fw-la haec_fw-la assertio_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la nam_fw-la licet_fw-la sub_fw-la his_fw-la verbis_fw-la non_fw-la habeatur_fw-la in_o scriptura_fw-la ea_fw-la tamen_fw-la docet_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n edocta_fw-la docens_fw-la simul_fw-la ita_fw-la esse_fw-la intelligenda_fw-la verba_fw-la formae_fw-la &_o in_o vero_fw-la sensu_fw-la eorum_fw-la hanc_fw-la veritatem_fw-la contineri_fw-la and_o then_o p._n 594._o col_fw-fr 2._o add_v 1mo_fw-la exit_fw-la hac_fw-la fidei_fw-la doctrina_fw-la colligitur_fw-la corrigendos_fw-la esse_fw-la scholasticos_fw-la qui_fw-la hanc_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la de_fw-la conversione_n hac_fw-la seu_fw-la de_fw-la transubstantiatione_fw-la non_fw-la admodum_fw-la antiquam_fw-la esse_fw-la dixerunt_fw-la inter_fw-la quos_fw-la sunt_fw-la scotus_n &_o gabriel_n biel_n lect_n 41._o in_o can._n etc._n etc._n and_o then_o 2do_fw-la infero_fw-la siquis_fw-la confiteatur_fw-la praesentiam_fw-la corporis_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o absentiam_fw-la panis_n neget_fw-la tamen_fw-la veram_fw-la conversionem_fw-la unius_fw-la in_o aliud_fw-la in_fw-la haeresin_fw-la labi_fw-la quia_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la duo_fw-la priera_fw-fr sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la hoc_fw-la tertium_fw-la definit_a ac_fw-la docet_fw-la svarez_n of_o gabriel_n and_o confess_v by_o the_o vindicator_n who_o also_o contrary_a to_o his_o pretence_n call_v this_o manner_n of_o conversion_n a_o assertion_n that_o be_v of_o faith_n though_o he_o confess_v it_o be_v not_o express_o to_o be_v find_v in_o scripture_n but_o deduce_v thence_o by_o the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o church_n nay_o so_o opposite_a be_v he_o to_o the_o opinion_n and_o pretence_n of_o this_o man_n that_o he_o declare_v in_o this_o very_a place_n which_o our_o good_a author_n examine_v but_o amid_o all_o his_o sincerity_n overlook_v this_o passage_n as_o not_o much_o for_o his_o purpose_n that_o if_o any_o one_o shall_v confess_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o absence_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o yet_o deny_v the_o true_a conversion_n of_o the_o one_o into_o the_o other_o he_o will_v fall_v into_o hear_v forasmuch_o as_o the_o church_n have_v define_v not_o only_o the_o two_o former_a but_o also_o the_o three_o likewise_o but_o 4thly_a the_o prevarication_n of_o our_o author_n in_o the_o next_o citation_n be_v yet_o more_o unpardonable_a i_o affirm_v that_o cardinal_n cajetan_n acknowledge_v that_o have_v not_o the_o church_n declare_v herself_o for_o the_o proper_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n the_o other_o may_v with_o as_o good_a reason_n have_v be_v receive_v this_o he_o say_v be_v false_a 86._o vind._n p._n 86._o for_o that_o cajetan_a say_v no_o such_o thing_n nay_o rather_o the_o contrary_a as_o will_v appear_v to_o any_o one_o who_o read_v that_o article_n and_o then_o with_o wonderful_a assurance_n begin_v a_o rabble_n of_o citation_n nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n in_o the_o very_a next_o word_n to_o those_o in_o which_o my_o end_n for_o the_o better_a clear_n of_o this_o doctrine_n vindicator_n cajetan_n in_o 3._o d._n th._n q._n 75._o art_n 1._o p._n 130._o col._n 1._o in_o comment_n circa_fw-la praesentis_fw-la &_o sequentium_fw-la articulorum_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la pro_fw-la claritate_fw-la &_o ampliori_fw-la intellectu_fw-la difficultatum_fw-la sciendum_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la autoritate_fw-la s._n scripturae_fw-la de_fw-la existentia_fw-la corporis_fw-la christi_fw-la in_o sacramento_n eucharistiae_fw-la nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la haberi_fw-la express_v nisi_fw-la verbum_fw-la salvatoris_fw-la dicentis_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la oportet_fw-la enim_fw-la verba_fw-la haec_fw-la vera_fw-la esse_fw-la et_fw-la quoniam_fw-la verba_fw-la sacrae_fw-la scripturae_fw-la exponuntur_fw-la dupliciter_fw-la vel_fw-la proprie_fw-la vel_fw-la metapherice_n primus_fw-la error_n circa_fw-la hoc_fw-la fuit_fw-la interpretantium_fw-la haec_fw-la domini_fw-la verba_fw-la metaphorice_v quem_fw-la magister_fw-la sent._n l._n 4._o d._n 10._o tractat._n qui_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la articulo_fw-la reprobatur_fw-la et_fw-la consistit_fw-la visus_n reprobationis_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la quod_fw-la verba_fw-la domini_fw-la intellecta_fw-la sunt_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la proprie_fw-la &_o propterea_fw-la oportet_fw-la illa_fw-la verificari_fw-la proprie_fw-la habemus_fw-la igitur_fw-la ex_fw-la veritate_fw-la verborum_fw-la domini_fw-la in_o sensu_fw-la proprio_fw-la etc._n etc._n cite_v by_o the_o vindicator_n say_v cajetan_n we_o must_v know_v that_o as_o to_o the_o existence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o eucharist_n there_o be_v nothing_o to_o be_v have_v express_o from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n but_o the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n for_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o these_o word_n be_v true_a and_o because_o the_o word_n of_o scripture_n may_v be_v expound_v two_o way_n either_o proper_o or_o metaphorical_o the_o first_o error_n be_v of_o those_o who_o interpret_v these_o word_n metaphorical_o which_o be_v reject_v in_o this_o article_n and_o the_o force_n of_o the_o rejection_n consist_v in_o this_o that_o the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n have_v be_v understand_v in_o their_o proper_a sense_n by_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o must_v be_v proper_o true_a this_o the_o vindicator_n be_v please_v to_o pass_v by_o though_o the_o very_a next_o word_n to_o those_o he_o cite_v nay_o to_o say_v that_o cajetan_n have_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o that_o article_n and_o appeal_v to_o any_o that_o shall_v read_v it_o for_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o shall_v a_o protestant_a have_v do_v this_o he_o will_v i_o believe_v have_v find_v out_o a_o great_a many_o hard_a name_n for_o he_o to_o testify_v his_o zeal_n against_o falsehood_n and_o
unsincerity_n and_o show_v what_o a_o kind_n of_o religion_n that_o must_v be_v 222._o vind._n p._n 222._o that_o be_v not_o maintainable_a without_o such_o sinister_a do_n but_o i_o shall_v remit_v he_o whole_o to_o the_o reader_n be_v censure_n and_o his_o own_o conscience_n for_o correction_n as_o for_o my_o last_o assertion_n 88_o vindic._n p._n 88_o that_o transubstantiation_n be_v no_o matter_n of_o faith_n till_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n 1200_o year_n after_o christ_n they_o be_v the_o very_a word_n of_o scotus_n cite_v by_o bellarmine_n 64._o see_v p._n 64._o and_o all_o his_o sophistry_n will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v that_o they_o make_v but_o little_a for_o my_o purpose_n thus_o notwithstanding_o all_o the_o little_a endeavour_n of_o the_o vindicator_n to_o evade_v the_o truth_n of_o those_o concession_n make_v by_o the_o great_a of_o his_o own_o communion_n in_o favour_n of_o our_o doctrine_n my_o argument_n still_o stand_v good_a against_o they_o and_o transubstantiation_n appear_v to_o have_v be_v the_o monstrous_a birth_n of_o these_o last_o age_n unknown_a in_o the_o church_n for_o almost_o 1200_o year_n 93._o vind._n p._n 92_o 93._o for_o what_o remain_v concern_v the_o adoration_n of_o the_o host_n since_o he_o have_v think_v fit_a to_o leave_v my_o argument_n in_o their_o full_a force_n i_o shall_v not_o need_v say_v any_o thing_n in_o defence_n of_o that_o which_o he_o have_v not_o so_o much_o as_o attempt_v to_o destroy_v article_n xix_o of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n if_o i_o affirm_v 94._o vindic._n p._n 94._o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n to_o be_v one_o of_o those_o error_n that_o most_o offend_v we_o i_o say_v no_o more_o than_o what_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v always_o think_v of_o it_o and_o have_v the_o vindicator_n please_v to_o have_v examine_v my_o argument_n instead_o of_o admire_v they_o he_o will_v perhaps_o have_v find_v i_o have_v reason_n to_o do_v so_o fit_a so_o canon_n 1._o siquis_fw-la dixerit_fw-la in_o missa_fw-la non_fw-la offerri_fw-la deo_fw-la verum_fw-la &_o proprium_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la aut_fw-la quod_fw-la offerri_fw-la non_fw-la fit_a aliud_fw-la quam_fw-la nobis_fw-la christum_fw-la ad_fw-la manducandum_fw-la dari_fw-la anathema_n fit_a sit_v fit_a canon_n 3._o siquis_fw-la dixerit_fw-la missae_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la tantum_fw-la esse_fw-la laudis_fw-la &_o gratiarum_fw-la actionis_fw-la aut_fw-la nudam_fw-la commemorationem_fw-la sacrificii_fw-la in_o cruse_n peracti_fw-la non_fw-la autem_fw-la propitiatorium_fw-la vel_fw-la soliprodesse_fw-la sumenti_fw-la neque_fw-la pro_fw-la vivis_fw-la &_o defunctis_fw-la pro_fw-la peccatis_fw-la paenis_fw-la satisfactionibus_fw-la &_o aliis_fw-la necessitatibus_fw-la offerri_fw-la debere_fw-la anathema_n sit_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n affirm_v missa_fw-la council_n trid._n sess_n 22._o p._n 196._o de_fw-la missa_fw-la that_o the_o mass_n be_v a_o true_a and_o proper_a sacrifice_n offer_v to_o god_n a_o sacrifice_n not_o only_o of_o praise_n and_o thanksgiving_n nor_o yet_o a_o bare_a commemoration_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n offer_v on_o the_o cross_n but_o true_o propitiatory_a for_o the_o dead_a and_o the_o live_n and_o for_o the_o sin_n punishment_n satisfaction_n and_o other_o necessity_n of_o both_o of_o they_o diversa_fw-la they_o ibid._n cap._n 2._o p._n 191._o una_fw-la eademque_fw-la est_fw-la hostia_fw-la idem_fw-la nunc_fw-la offerens_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la ministerio_fw-la qui_fw-la seipsum_fw-la tunc_fw-la in_o cruse_n obtulit_fw-la sola_fw-la offerendi_fw-la ratione_fw-la diversa_fw-la a_o sacrifice_n wherein_o the_o same_o christ_n be_v now_o offer_v without_o blood_n that_o once_o offer_v himself_o in_o that_o bloody_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n the_o same_o sacrifice_n the_o same_o offerer_n christ_n by_o his_o priest_n now_o who_o then_o do_v it_o by_o himself_o offer_v himself_o only_o differ_v in_o the_o manner_n of_o oblation_n this_o be_v in_o short_a 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