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A65699 A discourse concerning the idolatry of the Church of Rome wherein that charge is justified, and the pretended refutation of Dr. Stillingfleet's discourse is answered / by Daniel Whitby ... Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726.; Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1674 (1674) Wing W1722; ESTC R34745 260,055 369

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worship_v the_o sun_n moon_n and_o star_n and_o all_o the_o host_n of_o heaven_n with_o all_o the_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n that_o have_v be_v use_v by_o the_o heathen_a world_n nay_o shall_v he_o have_v as_o many_o petty_a and_o inferior_a god_n as_o egypt_n rome_n or_o the_o whole_a heathen_a world_n do_v ever_o own_o and_o shall_v perform_v that_o homage_n which_o according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o those_o nation_n where_o they_o be_v receive_v be_v due_a unto_o they_o yet_o will_v he_o not_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o least_o idolatry_n because_o he_o can_v not_o possible_o conceive_v they_o to_o be_v the_o great_a creator_n or_o the_o high_a god_n and_o yet_o conceive_v the_o true_a god_n to_o be_v only_o so_o 2._o hence_o it_o will_v clear_o follow_v that_o those_o christian_n who_o refuse_v to_o sacrifice_n or_o offer_v incense_n unto_o the_o image_n and_o statue_n of_o the_o heathen_a emperor_n and_o to_o those_o daemon_n which_o they_o worship_v as_o inferior_a being_n and_o 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due_a to_o god_n to_o he_o who_o they_o affirm_v to_o be_v only_a man_n they_o do_v 510._o do_v basil_n hom._n 27._o ed._n paris_n p._n 510._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i.e._n they_o introduce_v that_o idolatry_n the_o heathen_n practise_v the_o angelitae_n as_o b._n as_o nomo_n can._n tit._n 12._o c._n 8._o cod._n can._n ecc._n uniu._n cant._n 139._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d epiph._n haer._n 79._o p._n 1061._o b._n photius_n or_o the_o angelick_n as_o st._n austin_n style_v they_o who_o pray_v to_o angel_n and_o by_o they_o thought_n to_o have_v access_n unto_o the_o father_n the_o church_n of_o god_n do_v ancient_o condemn_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o be_v guilty_a of_o occult_a idolatry_n the_o collyridians_n who_o offer_a cake_n unto_o the_o bless_a virgin_n be_v say_v to_o do_v a_o devilish_a work_n and_o introduce_v a_o custom_n which_o make_v they_o guilty_a of_o idolatry_n and_o yet_o it_o be_v exceed_o manifest_a that_o neither_o any_o of_o those_o heathen_n do_v conceive_v those_o petty_a god_n as_o they_o be_v please_v to_o style_v they_o the_o supreme_a be_v or_o the_o great_a creator_n of_o the_o world_n nor_o can_v the_o like_a conception_n of_o christ_n the_o bless_a virgin_n or_o the_o angel_n be_v any_o way_n consistent_a to_o that_o christianity_n which_o the_o arian_n angelick_n and_o collyridians_n do_v constant_o profess_v as_o for_o the_o heathen_n their_o daemon_n be_v account_v 417._o account_v plutarc_n de_fw-fr def._n or._n p._n 416_o 417._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o minister_n of_o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d secundary_a god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d minister_a spirit_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sen_fw-la 45._o sen_fw-la apuleus_n de_fw-fr daemon_n socratis_n p._n 45._o potestatis_fw-la mediae_n a_o middle_a sort_n of_o intercessor_n 840_o intercessor_n sen_n
eliensis_n respon_n ad_fw-la apol._n bel._n pag._n 7._o garnet_n open_o confess_v and_o therefore_o though_o they_o stand_v oblige_v to_o believe_v that_o the_o bread_n be_v transubstantiate_v some_o where_o or_o other_o at_o some_o time_n or_o other_o by_o some_o priest_n or_o other_o yet_o they_o think_v no_o man_n be_v oblige_v to_o believe_v that_o any_o priest_n now_o or_o at_o any_o one_o certain_a time_n do_v consecrate_v effective_o and_o this_o concession_n be_v not_o very_o liberal_a if_o we_o consider_v what_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o suarez_n 65.2_o suarez_n multae_fw-la sut_fw-la causae_fw-la propter_fw-la quas_fw-la potest_fw-la accidere_fw-la ut_fw-la christus_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la praesens_fw-la ut_fw-la si_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la baptizatus_fw-la vel_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la ritè_fw-la ordinatus_fw-la quod_fw-la pendet_fw-la ex_fw-la multis_fw-la aliis_fw-la causis_fw-la quibus_fw-la ferè_fw-la in_o infinitum_fw-la progredi_fw-la possumus_fw-la ut_fw-la ex_fw-la parte_fw-la materiae_fw-la saepe_fw-la accidit_fw-la defectus_fw-la suarez_n in_o 3_o thom._n qu._n 79._o art_n 8._o disp_n 65.2_o that_o we_o may_v almost_o infinite_o proceed_v in_o the_o enumeration_n of_o the_o defect_n which_o will_v obstruct_v christ_n presence_n in_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n for_o as_o we_o be_v inform_v by_o the_o roman_a missal_n if_o the_o 35._o the_o si_fw-mi aliquid_fw-la desit_fw-la ex_fw-la iis_fw-la quae_fw-la ad_fw-la integritatem_fw-la verborum_fw-la in_o ipsâ_fw-la consecratione_fw-la requiruntur_fw-la verba_fw-la autem_fw-la consecrationis_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la forma_fw-la huius_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la sunt_fw-la haec_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la enim_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la &_o hic_fw-la est_fw-la enim_fw-la calix_fw-la sanguinis_fw-la mei_fw-la novi_fw-la &_o aeterni_fw-la testamenti_fw-la misterium_fw-la fidei_fw-la qui_fw-la pro_fw-la vobis_fw-la &_o pro_fw-la multis_fw-la effundetur_fw-la in_o remissionem_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la autem_fw-la aliquid_fw-la diminueret_fw-la vel_fw-la immutaret_fw-la de_fw-la forma_fw-la consecrationis_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la &_o in_o ipsa_fw-la verborum_fw-la immutatione_n verba_fw-la idem_fw-la non_fw-la significarent_fw-la non_fw-la conficeret_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la miss_n rom._n de_fw-fr defec_n miss_n p._n 35._o priest_n happen_v to_o diminish_v or_o alter_v any_o of_o the_o word_n of_o consecration_n so_o that_o the_o sense_n be_v vary_v or_o any_o word_n belong_v to_o the_o form_n of_o consecration_n be_v ontit_v in_o all_o these_o case_n christ_n be_v not_o present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o it_o remain_v bread_n now_o since_o the_o form_n of_o consecration_n of_o the_o cup_n contain_v 11_o word_n and_o so_o be_v the_o more_o subject_a to_o diminution_n or_o alteration_n see_v the_o priest_n do_v always_o speak_v the_o word_n of_o consecration_n in_o a_o 9_o a_o si_fw-mi quis_fw-la dixerit_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la r._n ritum_fw-la quo_fw-la submissa_fw-la voce_fw-la pars_fw-la canonis_fw-la &_o verba_fw-la consecrationis_fw-la proseruntu●_n damnandum_fw-la esse_fw-la aut_fw-la lingua_fw-la tantum_fw-la vulgari_fw-la missam_fw-la celebrari_fw-la debere_fw-la anathema_n sit_fw-la council_n try_v sess_n 22._o can._n 9_o secret_a voice_n and_o not_o to_o be_v hear_v and_o in_o the_o latin_a tongue_n none_o of_o the_o people_n can_v be_v certain_a that_o he_o speak_v the_o word_n of_o consecration_n so_o full_o and_o so_o regular_o as_o to_o secure_v they_o from_o worship_v a_o piece_n of_o bread_n second_o 34._o second_o si_fw-mi panis_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la triticeus_fw-la vel_fw-la si_fw-la triticeus_fw-la sit_fw-la admixtus_fw-la granis_fw-la alterius_fw-la generis_fw-la in_o tanta_fw-la quan_fw-mi titate_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la maneat_fw-la panis_fw-la triticeus_fw-la vel_fw-la sit_fw-la alioqui_fw-la corruptus_fw-la non_fw-la conficitur_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la ibid._n pag._n 34._o if_o the_o bread_n be_v corrupt_v or_o if_o it_o be_v not_o wheaten-bread_n then_o be_v it_o not_o convert_v into_o christ_n body_n and_o if_o the_o wine_n be_v sour_a or_o turn_v into_o vinegar_n if_o it_o be_v make_v of_o unripe_a grape_n if_o it_o be_v mix_v with_o so_o much_o water_n as_o will_v corrupt_v the_o wine_n then_o be_v it_o not_o convert_v into_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n now_o by_o what_o mean_v the_o person_n that_o adore_v the_o sacrament_n can_v be_v assure_v that_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v subject_a unto_o none_o of_o these_o defect_n it_o be_v not_o easy_a to_o conceive_v ibid._n conceive_v si_fw-mi vinum_fw-la sit_fw-la factum_fw-la pe_z nitus_fw-la acetum_fw-la vel_fw-la penitus_fw-la putridum_fw-la vel_fw-la de_fw-la uvis_fw-la acerbis_fw-la seu_fw-la non_fw-la maturis_fw-la expessum_fw-la vel_fw-la admixtum_fw-la tantum_fw-la aquae_fw-la ut_fw-la vinum_fw-la sit_fw-la corruptum_fw-la non_fw-la conficitur_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la ibid._n three_o 35.36_o three_o siquis_fw-la non_fw-la intendit_fw-la conficere_fw-la sed_fw-la delusorie_n aliquid_fw-la agere_fw-la non_fw-la consecrat_fw-mi quiarequiritur_fw-la inten_a tio_fw-la ibid._n p._n 35.36_o if_o the_o priest_n have_v vo_o intention_n to_o consecrate_v the_o bread_n and_o wine_n if_o in_o this_o matter_n he_o act_v dilusory_o if_o he_o be_v asecret_a atheist_n a_o moor_n a_o jew_n in_o all_o these_o case_n the_o person_n worship_v must_v give_v latria_n to_o a_o creature_n if_o none_o of_o all_o this_o happen_v yet_o 34._o yet_o quicquid_fw-la horum_fw-la deficit_fw-la scilicet_fw-la mat_n eria_fw-la debita_fw-la for_o ma_fw-fr cum_fw-la intention_n &_o ordo_fw-la sacerdotalis_fw-la in_o conficiente_a non_fw-la consicitur_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la ib._n p._n 34._o if_o the_o consecrate_a priest_n be_v not_o baptise_a with_o due_a form_n of_o word_n or_o if_o the_o person_n that_o baptise_a he_o do_v not_o intend_v to_o do_v as_o the_o church_n do_v if_o he_o be_v not_o a_o priest_n 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be_v future_a and_o contingent_a the_o almighty_a father_n only_o know_v the_o hide_a thing_n say_v 8.29_o say_v lib._n 5._o in_o ezech._n cap._n 16._o pag._n 191._o e._n mat._n 6.4_o psal_n 7.9_o 1_o king_n 8.29_o i_o allege_v for_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o these_o text_n thy_o father_n that_o see_v in_o secret_a &c_n &c_n god_n search_v the_o heart_n and_o reins_o and_o thou_o only_o know_v the_o heart_n of_o all_o the_o child_n of_o man_n it_o be_v the_o property_n of_o god_n alone_o say_v 16.7_o say_v in_o matt._n hom._n 29._o p._n 201_o 202._o ed._n savil._n jer._n 17.9_o 1_o sam._n 16.7_o chrysostom_n to_o know_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o beside_o the_o passage_n now_o mention_v he_o add_v that_o of_o jeremiah_n the_o heart_n be_v deceitful_a above_o all_o thing_n who_o can_v know_v it_o and_o that_o of_o samuel_n man_n look_v on_o the_o out_o ward_v appearance_n but_o the_o lord_n look_v on_o the_o heart_n and_o of_o this_o say_v he_o 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that_o do_v pray_v in_o silence_n say_v st._n ambrose_n bring_v faith_n with_o he_o and_o confess_v that_o god_n be_v the_o searcher_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o reins_o and_o that_o he_o can_v hear_v his_o prayer_n before_o that_o it_o be_v utter_v by_o his_o mouth_n 8._o mouth_n consideremus_fw-la ben_v ct●●●eleslem_fw-la christi_fw-la sephia●_n imprimis_fw-la de_fw-la praecepto_fw-la secretè_fw-la adorandi_fw-la quo_fw-la &_o fidem_fw-la hominis_fw-la exigebat_fw-la ut_fw-la dei_fw-la omnipotentis_fw-la &_o conspectum_fw-la &_o auditum_fw-la sub_fw-la t●ctis_fw-la &_o in_fw-la abdus_fw-la etiam_fw-la adess_n confideret_fw-la &_o m_o destum_fw-la fidei_fw-la desidera●_n it_o ut_fw-la quem_fw-la u●ique_fw-la audire_fw-la &_o videre_fw-la fideret_fw-la ci_fw-fr soli_fw-la religionem_fw-la saam_fw-la off●●●●_n tert._n de_fw-fr orat._n c._n 1._o §._o 8._o let_v consider_v say_v tertullian_n the_o heavenly_a wisdom_n of_o our_o lord_n in_o his_o injunction_n to_o prany_n in_o secret_a whereby_o he_o both_o require_v the_o faith_n of_o man_n confide_v that_o god_n omnipotent_a both_o hear_v and_o see_v under_o our_o roof_n and_o in_o our_o secret_a place_n and_o also_o that_o our_o faith_n be_v modest_a so_o that_o we_o offer_v our_o religion_n unto_o he_o alone_o who_o we_o be_v confident_a do_v see_v and_o hear_v we_o every_o where_fw-mi that_o to_o ascribe_v this_o knowledge_n to_o any_o creature_n to_o who_o god_n do_v not_o thus_o discover_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n 3._o prop._n 3._o §._o 3._o and_o to_o pay_v that_o honour_n to_o it_o which_o do_v suppose_v such_o knowledge_n be_v idolatry_n this_o i_o make_v good_a 1._o from_o the_o confession_n of_o our_o adversary_n and_o from_o the_o argument_n they_o use_v on_o like_a occasion_n it_o be_v true_o acknowledge_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 7._o catechism_n rom._n part_n 3._o c._n 1._o §_o 7._o that_o magic_n augury_n and_o such_o like_a wicked_a art_n be_v sin_n forbid_v by_o the_o first_o commandment_n and_o such_o as_o can_v be_v commit_v without_o gross_a idolatry_n because_o whoever_o do_v expect_v or_o seek_v from_o evil_a spirit_n or_o any_o other_o creature_n what_o the_o magician_n promise_v by_o seek_v hope_v or_o expect_v that_o from_o they_o which_o only_o ought_v to_o be_v expect_v from_o god_n they_o act_n towards_o that_o creature_n as_o if_o they_o think_v it_o to_o be_v god_n for_o instance_n he_o that_o attempt_v to_o foretell_v what_o be_v future_a and_o contingent_a without_o a_o revelation_n from_o god_n he_o do_v undue_o do_v it_o 1._o 2_o 2_o q._n 95._o art_n 1._o say_v the_o learned_a silvius_n for_o since_o the_o cause_n of_o such_o thing_n be_v undetermined_a it_o be_v not_o possible_a we_o shall_v attain_v to_o this_o knowledge_n of_o they_o from_o themselves_o or_o from_o their_o cause_n and_o whether_o we_o do_v speak_v of_o thing_n contingent_a or_o of_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o conception_n of_o the_o heart_n it_o be_v certain_a god_n alone_o can_v know_v they_o it_o be_v say_v 41.23_o isa_n 41.23_o thou_o only_o know_v the_o heart_n of_o man_n and_o again_o declare_v the_o thing_n that_o be_v to_o come_v that_o we_o may_v know_v that_o you_o be_v god_n he_o therefore_o that_o attempt_v to_o foretell_v such_o thing_n we_o therefore_o say_v that_o he_o divine_v because_o after_o a_o sort_n he_o act_v the_o god_n usurp_v that_o which_o only_o do_v belong_v to_o he_o 2._o from_o the_o two_o passage_n of_o scripture_n cite_v by_o he_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o albeit_o god_n sometime_o do_v reveal_v unto_o his_o prophet_n the_o knowledge_n of_o thing_n future_a and_o of_o the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n yet_o be_v that_o knowledge_n to_o be_v esteem_v the_o property_n of_o god_n and_o a_o sure_a indication_n of_o divinity_n and_o therefore_o to_o ascribe_v this_o knowledge_n to_o a_o creature_n god_n have_v not_o reveal_v it_o to_o he_o be_v to_o ascribe_v divinity_n unto_o
c._n 12._o run_v through_o all_o the_o word_n of_o holy_a prayer_n and_o you_o will_v be_v able_a to_o find_v nothing_o which_o be_v not_o include_v in_o the_o lord_n prayer_n in_o this_o both_o protestant_n and_o roman_a catholic_n agree_v hence_o therefore_o i_o assume_v if_o when_o we_o pray_v for_o any_o thing_n contain_v in_o this_o prayer_n we_o be_v enjoin_v to_o pray_v to_o god_n than_o all_o our_o acceptable_a prayer_n must_v be_v direct_v to_o he_o and_o whensoever_o we_o do_v pray_v for_o any_o blessing_n we_o must_v call_v upon_o he_o beside_o our_o father_n do_v belong_v to_o every_o petition_n no_o other_o person_n be_v mention_v in_o this_o prayer_n so_o that_o the_o sense_n run_v thus_o our_o father_n etc._n etc._n let_v thy_o kingdom_n come_v our_o father_n let_v thy_o will_v be_v do_v etc._n etc._n and_o then_o the_o import_n of_o this_o injunction_n will_v be_v this_o when_o you_o pray_v for_o the_o advancement_n of_o god_n glory_n or_o the_o promotion_n of_o his_o kingdom_n or_o the_o performance_n of_o his_o will_n when_o you_o solicit_v for_o any_o temporal_a blessing_n or_o for_o the_o pardon_n of_o your_o sin_n or_o last_o for_o the_o prevention_n of_o any_o evil_n or_o temptation_n of_o what_o kind_n soever_o when_o you_o desire_v any_o of_o these_o mercy_n for_o yourselves_o or_o other_o pray_v to_o your_o heavenly_a father_n for_o they_o 3._o none_o of_o these_o blessing_n must_v be_v ask_v of_o he_o to_o who_o the_o kingdom_n power_n and_o glory_n do_v not_o of_o right_a belong_v for_o this_o be_v add_v as_o the_o cause_n or_o motive_n of_o make_v these_o address_n to_o god_n and_o where_o the_o motive_n or_o cause_n be_v want_v the_o effect_n must_v cease_v now_o to_o god_n only_o the_o kingdom_n power_n and_o glory_n do_v agree_v judas_n 25._o we_o therefore_o must_v address_v our_o prayer_n to_o he_o only_o for_o the_o obtain_n of_o these_o blessing_n and_o lest_o you_o shall_v object_v that_o this_o argument_n exclude_v the_o three_o and_o second_o person_n of_o the_o sacred_a trinity_n let_v it_o be_v note_v that_o all_o the_o schoolman_n do_v affirm_v that_o the_o word_n father_n in_o this_o prayer_n must_v not_o be_v take_v personal_o but_o essential_o and_o so_o exclude_v not_o the_o other_o person_n of_o the_o trinity_n but_o those_o thing_n only_o which_o have_v not_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o they_o 2._o prayer_n offer_v up_o in_o any_o time_n or_o place_n to_o a_o invisible_a and_o for_o any_o thing_n we_o know_v a_o be_v absent_a from_o we_o as_o far_o as_o earth_n from_o heaven_n do_v ascribe_v unto_o that_o be_v the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n now_o to_o worship_v any_o be_v whether_o saint_n or_o angel_n with_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o worship_n which_o do_v ascribe_v unto_o it_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o desire_n and_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n both_o where_o and_o whensoever_o they_o be_v conceive_v or_o utter_v be_v to_o ascribe_v unto_o they_o by_o way_n of_o worship_n what_o be_v not_o due_a to_o saint_n or_o angel_n but_o alone_o to_o god_n as_o have_v be_v prove_v already_o and_o may_v be_v further_o thus_o confirm_v 1._o if_o saint_n depart_v be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o desire_n of_o our_o heart_n why_o do_v elijah_n speak_v unto_o elisha_n thus_o 2.9_o 2_o king_n 2.9_o ask_v what_o thou_o will_v before_o i_o be_o take_v from_o thou_o the_o scripture_n do_v affirm_v that_o he_o be_v take_v up_o into_o the_o heaven_n and_o therefore_o do_v behold_v the_o face_n of_o god_n and_o roman_a catholic_n themselves_o deny_v that_o he_o be_v hold_v in_o limbo_n as_o they_o imagine_v other_o prophet_n be_v be_v in_o heaven_n his_o love_n unto_o elisha_n and_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v not_o diminish_v but_o enlarge_v and_o therefore_o upon_o that_o account_n he_o have_v a_o strong_a reason_n to_o ask_v what_o he_o desire_v then_o before_o beside_o the_o prophet_n be_v now_o with_o god_n in_o heaven_n his_o prayer_n will_v more_o effectual_o prevail_v for_o any_o blessing_n for_o his_o friend_n and_o therefore_o he_o have_v great_a reason_n to_o have_v say_v have_v he_o believe_v this_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n ask_v what_o thou_o will_v when_v i_o be_o take_v from_o thou_o and_o therefore_o we_o have_v reason_n to_o presume_v that_o he_o do_v not_o believe_v this_o doctrine_n but_o rather_o think_v that_o his_o departure_n will_v render_v all_o elijah_n future_a wish_n and_o add_v ress_n to_o he_o vain_a and_o ineffectual_a 2._o from_o that_o know_a passage_n of_o isaiah_n abraham_n nescivit_fw-la nos_fw-la &_o israel_n ignoravit_fw-la nos_fw-la st._n augustine_n thus_o conclude_v 13._o conclude_v si_fw-mi tanti_fw-la patriarchae_fw-la quid_fw-la erga_fw-la populum_fw-la ex_fw-la his_fw-la procreatum_fw-la ageretur_fw-la ignoraverunt_fw-la quibus_fw-la deo_fw-la credentibus_fw-la populus_fw-la ipse_fw-la ex_fw-la corum_fw-la stirpe_fw-la promissus_fw-la est_fw-la quomodo_fw-la mortui_fw-la suorum_fw-la rebus_fw-la atque_fw-la actubus_fw-la cognoscendis_fw-la adjuvandisque_fw-la miscentur_fw-la ibi_fw-la ergo_fw-la sunt_fw-la spiritus_fw-la defunctorum_fw-la ubi_fw-la non_fw-la vident_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la aguntur_fw-la aut_fw-la eveniunt_fw-la in_o ista_fw-la vita_fw-la hominibus_fw-la de_fw-fr curâ_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la c._n 13._o if_o such_o great_a patriarch_n be_v ignorant_a of_o what_o be_v do_v towards_o the_o people_n that_o proceed_v from_o their_o loin_n how_o shall_v the_o dead_a be_v conversant_a in_o know_v or_o help_v of_o their_o friend_n in_o what_o they_o do_v there_o therefore_o be_v the_o spirit_n of_o dead_a person_n where_o they_o do_v not_o see_v what_o thing_n be_v do_v or_o happen_v to_o man_n in_o this_o life_n 2._o i_o reason_v thus_o this_o practice_n do_v ascribe_v unto_o the_o object_n of_o our_o prayer_n such_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o such_o a_o cognisance_n of_o all_o petition_n present_v to_o they_o at_o all_o time_n and_o in_o all_o place_n of_o the_o world_n which_o we_o have_v prove_v to_o agree_v to_o god_n alone_o or_o such_o a_o presence_n in_o all_o place_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o he_o and_o therefore_o it_o ascribe_v to_o they_o the_o honour_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o 2._o if_o saint_n depart_v do_v know_v the_o mind_n and_o inward_a thought_n of_o those_o who_o put_v up_o their_o petition_n to_o they_o they_o have_v this_o knowledge_n either_o from_o revelation_n or_o from_o the_o beatific_a vision_n but_o they_o have_v no_o such_o knowledge_n either_o from_o revelation_n or_o from_o the_o beatific_a vision_n ergo._n and_o 1._o god_n do_v not_o ordinary_o reveal_v unto_o they_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n of_o their_o petitioner_n for_o if_o they_o do_v not_o want_v this_o revelation_n god_n who_o do_v nothing_o vain_o must_v not_o be_v suppose_v to_o impart_v it_o but_o these_o bless_a spirit_n do_v not_o want_v it_o for_o do_v they_o need_v this_o revelation_n to_o perceive_v our_o mind_n say_v bellarmine_n the_o church_n will_v not_o so_o confident_o say_v to_o all_o the_o saint_n 2._o votis_n precamur_fw-la cordium_fw-la audite_fw-la preces_fw-la supplicum_fw-la brev._n in_o com._n apost_n p._n 2._o pray_v for_o i_o much_o less_o we_o offer_v to_o you_o the_o desire_n of_o our_o heart_n but_o sometime_o will_v desire_v god_n thus_o to_o reveal_v our_o prayer_n and_o to_o acquaint_v they_o with_o the_o desire_n of_o our_o heart_n 2._o if_o god_n thus_o reveal_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o petitioner_n to_o the_o decease_a saint_n what_o reason_n can_v be_v give_v say_v the_o forementioned_a author_n why_o all_o the_o holy_a patriarch_n and_o prophet_n be_v not_o invoke_v by_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n before_o our_o saviour_n advent_n and_o he_o have_v reason_n to_o make_v this_o enquiry_n for_o 1._o it_o be_v as_o easy_a to_o almighty_a god_n to_o make_v this_o revelation_n to_o the_o soul_n in_o limbo_n that_o papal_a prison_n of_o the_o ancient_a patriarch_n and_o holy_a prophet_n as_o to_o the_o soul_n in_o heaven_n nor_o have_v we_o one_o example_n or_o declaration_n that_o what_o god_n be_v suppose_v now_o to_o do_v he_o be_v not_o willing_a to_o do_v then_o 2._o certain_a it_o be_v the_o charity_n of_o those_o depart_a patriarch_n and_o prophet_n towards_o their_o relative_n and_o friend_n and_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n must_v be_v exceed_o advance_v by_o their_o change_n they_o must_v be_v more_o the_o friend_n of_o god_n and_o their_o petition_n must_v be_v more_o prevail_a then_o whilst_o they_o do_v continue_v in_o the_o flesh_n wherefore_o the_o jew_n have_v as_o good_a reason_n to_o invoke_v these_o patriarch_n and_o prophet_n as_o have_v the_o romanist_n to_o call_v upon_o the_o christian_a martyr_n and_o god_n have_v equal_a reason_n to_o declare_v this_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o to_o reveal_v their_o supplication_n to_o the_o patriarch_n as_o to_o
declare_v this_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o christian_a and_o to_o reveal_v their_o supplication_n to_o depart_a christian_n 3._o what_o a_o ridiculous_a office_n do_v they_o impose_v upon_o the_o god_n of_o heaven_n by_o this_o fond_a opinion_n for_o when_o they_o pray_v to_o apollonia_n for_o the_o toothache_n god_n must_v not_o only_o tell_v she_o that_o such_o a_o person_n supplicate_v but_o also_o that_o his_o tooth_n do_v ache_v and_o therefore_o he_o particular_o implore_v her_o assistance_n when_o they_o address_v themselves_o to_o any_o saint_n in_o this_o odd_a language_n 586._o language_n cum_fw-la ad_fw-la imaginem_fw-la sancti_fw-la alicujus_fw-la quis_fw-la dominicam_fw-la orationem_fw-la pronuntiat_fw-la ita_fw-la tum_fw-la sentiat_fw-la se_fw-la ab_fw-la illo_fw-la petere_fw-la ut_fw-la secum_fw-la oret_fw-la sibique_fw-la postulet_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la dominicae_fw-la orationis_fw-la formulâ_fw-la continentur_fw-la catech._n rom._n part_n 4_o c._n 6._o s_o 4._o p._n 586._o our_o father_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n etc._n etc._n which_o they_o familiar_o do_v as_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o the_o roman_a catechism_n god_n must_v inform_v this_o saint_n both_o of_o the_o person_n pray_v and_o his_o prayer_n and_o his_o intention_n by_o so_o do_v to_o oblige_v he_o to_o use_v those_o word_n in_o his_o behalf_n 2._o behalf_n o_o praeco_fw-la accelera_fw-la piae_fw-la matri●_n praecare_fw-la viscera_fw-la propr_fw-la fest_n f._n 2._o when_o they_o desire_v any_o saint_n or_o angel_n to_o go_v unto_o the_o bless_a virgin_n this_o saint_n must_v be_v inform_v first_o of_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o prayer_n then_o must_v he_o post_v unto_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o she_o must_v go_v unto_o her_o son_n and_o he_o unto_o his_o father_n to_o present_v that_o request_n which_o he_o reveal_v and_o be_v not_o these_o man_n very_o bold_a with_o god_n to_o put_v such_o office_n upon_o he_o and_o make_v he_o nuntio_n to_o all_o his_o creature_n 2._o the_o 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their_o charge_n in_o this_o important_a duty_n and_o to_o inform_v they_o that_o it_o be_v very_o good_a and_o profitable_a to_o fly_v unto_o their_o prayer_n for_o help_n and_o refuge_n that_o we_o must_v daily_o invocate_v the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o that_o it_o be_v a_o wicked_a and_o most_o heinous_a crime_n to_o doubt_v either_o her_o readiness_n to_o help_v 584._o cate●●_n ●om_n p._n 584._o or_o that_o her_o merit_n be_v most_o prevail_v for_o this_o end_n their_o practice_n do_v inform_v we_o that_o there_o be_v not_o any_o blessing_n which_o our_o soul_n can_v wish_v for_o but_o christian_n shall_v implore_v it_o from_o they_o and_o if_o their_o doctrine_n be_v according_a unto_o piety_n their_o practice_n must_v assure_o he_o so_o for_o what_o more_o proper_a then_o to_o implore_v their_o aid_n who_o be_v so_o high_o instrumental_a to_o preserve_v we_o from_o our_o most_o fatal_a enemy_n and_o to_o procure_v all_o those_o blessing_n which_o be_v needful_a both_o to_o the_o 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the_o latin_n teach_v concern_v the_o saint_n depart_v they_o tell_v we_o in_o the_o word_n of_o basil_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o confident_o ascribe_v unto_o they_o summan_n juvandi_fw-la voluntatem_fw-la the_o great_a readiness_n to_o help_v and_o the_o most_o prevail_a merit_n 585._o catech._n rom._n p._n 585._o and_o this_o they_o do_v most_o suitable_o to_o that_o presumption_n they_o have_v take_v up_o for_o all_o these_o thing_n be_v the_o more_o needful_a to_o be_v teach_v because_o both_o scripture_n seem_v to_o say_v the_o contrary_a affirm_v that_o saint_n depart_v be_v ignorant_a of_o we_o and_o our_o concernment_n here_o on_o earth_n and_o deny_v that_o any_o beside_o god_n can_v know_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o second_o the_o thing_n themselves_o seem_v difficult_a to_o be_v believe_v viz._n that_o creature_n at_o so_o infinite_a a_o distance_n can_v be_v acquaint_v with_o what_o be_v do_v on_o carth_n much_o more_o that_o they_o shall_v at_o 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that_o prayer_n must_v be_v offer_v unto_o none_o but_o god_n and_o by_o no_o other_o intercessor_n but_o our_o saviour_n christ_n sect._n 1_o and_o this_o assertion_n they_o prove_v 1._o because_o god_n only_o can_v be_v call_v good_a 2._o because_o he_o only_o can_v answer_v our_o petition_n ibid._n 2._o they_o do_v affirm_v that_o by_o address_v a_o petition_n to_o a_o saint_n or_o angel_n we_o become_v guilty_a of_o distraction_n from_o god_n and_o of_o desert_v our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n sect._n 2._o 3._o that_o to_o pray_v unto_o a_o creature_n or_o to_o that_o which_o be_v no_o god_n be_v to_o worship_v it_o as_o god_n or_o give_v that_o honour_n to_o it_o which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o sect._n 3._o 4._o they_o hence_o infer_v that_o christ_n be_v god_n and_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v god_n because_o we_o put_v up_o our_o petition_n to_o they_o sect._n 4._o 5._o because_o the_o invocation_n of_o the_o inferior_a heathen_a daemon_n be_v by_o the_o father_n censure_v as_o idolatry_n and_o there_o be_v no_o desparity_n betwixt_o the_o invocation_n of_o those_o daemon_n and_o that_o invocation_n of_o the_o bless_a martyr_n which_o be_v now_o practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n sufficient_a to_o acquit_v the_o papist_n from_o that_o gild_n if_o it_o be_v due_o charge_v on_o the_o heathen_n by_o reason_n of_o their_o supplication_n tender_v to_o inferior_a daemon_n sect._n 5._o 6._o the_o father_n dispute_n against_o the_o heathen_n with_o such_o argument_n as_o perfect_o destroy_v this_o practice_n and_o confute_v this_o doctrine_n sect._n 6._o 7._o because_o the_o ancient_a father_n pray_v for_o all_o the_o saint_n without_o exception_n of_o martyr_n or_o apostle_n or_o the_o bless_a virgin_n 8._o because_o the_o father_n give_v no_o rule_n touch_v the_o canonise_a of_o the_o saint_n depart_v ibid._n to_o what_o we_o have_v discourse_v from_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o from_o the_o principle_n of_o reason_n we_o shall_v now_o add_v the_o suffrage_n of_o those_o ancient_a father_n who_o flourish_v in_o the_o first_o and_o pure_a age_n of_o the_o church_n who_o do_v not_o only_o say_v express_o that_o our_o prayer_n shall_v only_o be_v direct_v to_o god_n assert_v this_o without_o those_o limitation_n and_o distinction_n which_o be_v now_o use_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o also_o do_v it_o upon_o the_o very_a same_o enducement_n and_o motive_n which_o protestant_n be_v wont_a to_o use_v for_o confirmation_n of_o this_o truth_n moreover_o in_o their_o conflict_n with_o the_o arrian_n and_o other_o adversary_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n they_o use_v those_o very_a weapon_n wherewith_o we_o fight_v against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o do_v pronounce_v that_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n which_o that_o church_n contend_v for_o to_o be_v the_o give_v to_o the_o creature_n what_o be_v due_a to_o god_n and_o first_o the_o father_n do_v assert_v that_o prayer_n must_v be_v offer_v unto_o none_o but_o god_n and_o by_o no_o other_o intercessor_n but_o our_o saviour_n christ_n when_o celsus_n have_v pronounce_v that_o 394._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 8._o p._n 394._o heathen_a daemon_n do_v belong_v to_o god_n and_o thence_o infer_v we_o shall_v entreat_v their_o favour_n origen_n reply_n two_o thing_n 1._o that_o those_o daemon_n be_v wicked_a spirit_n can_v not_o belong_v to_o god_n 2._o that_o this_o advice_n of_o 395._o of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d origen_n contra_fw-la cell_n lib._n 8._o p._n 395._o celsus_n to_o put_v up_o our_o petition_n to_o they_o be_v to_o be_v utter_o reject_v and_o by_o no_o mean_n allow_v by_o christian_n because_o god_n only_o be_v to_o be_v make_v the_o object_n of_o our_o prayer_n nor_o be_v we_o to_o solicit_v any_o other_o than_o our_o great_a high_a priest_n to_o offer_v and_o present_v they_o to_o the_o father_n and_o hence_o in_o two_o catena_n both_o publish_v by_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n of_o 5._o of_o nicet_fw-la caten_v in_o psal_n 5._o rome_n we_o have_v this_o free_a confession_n of_o a_o ancient_a father_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d we_o christian_n pray_v to_o god_n alone_o and_o upon_o this_o account_n they_o tell_v we_o the_o psalmist_n utter_v this_o expression_n attend_v unto_o the_o voice_n of_o my_o petition_n my_o king_n and_o my_o god_n for_o unto_o thou_o will_v i_o pray_v because_o 53._o because_o ora●io_fw-la enim_fw-la so●_n deo_fw-la ●ff●rtur_fw-la aurea_fw-la catena_n in_o 50._o psal_n edit_fw-la ven●t_fw-la anno_fw-la 1569._o pag._n 53._o petition_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v unto_o god_n alone_o according_a to_o that_o question_n of_o st._n austin_n 5._o austin_n cui_fw-la alteri_fw-la praeter_fw-la te_fw-la clamabo_fw-la aug._n confess_v lib._n 1._o cap_n 5._o to_o who_o else_o shall_v i_o cry_v but_o unto_o thou_o and_o that_o expression_n of_o creatione_fw-la of_o l._n de_fw-fr creatione_fw-la dracontius_n esse_fw-la nihil_fw-la prorsus_fw-la se_fw-la praeter_fw-la ubique_fw-la rogandum_fw-la that_o nothing_o beside_o god_n shall_v be_v invoke_v and_o this_o assert_v on_o they_o do_v not_o bare_o offer_v but_o also_o they_o confirm_v it_o by_o many_o pregnant_a argument_n as_o first_o he_o only_o must_v be_v pray_v unto_o because_o he_o only_o can_v be_v call_v good_a 721._o good_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d clem._n alexand_n strom._n l._n 7._o p._n 721._o since_o god_n alone_o be_v good_a say_v clemens_n it_o be_v reasonable_a we_o shall_v solicit_v he_o alone_o for_o the_o donation_n and_o continuance_n of_o good_a thing_n 2._o because_o god_n only_o be_v present_a in_o all_o place_n and_o so_o at_o hand_n to_o hear_v and_o help_v we_o wherever_o we_o address_v our_o prayer_n to_o he_o it_o be_v a_o absurdity_n say_v 239._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la lib._n 5._o pag._n 239._o origen_n have_v that_o god_n with_o we_o and_o nigh_o at_o hand_n who_o fill_v heaven_n and_o earth_n to_o go_v about_o to_o pray_v to_o that_o which_o be_v not_o omnipresent_v this_o i_o confess_v be_v speak_v to_o demonstrate_v that_o intercession_n be_v not_o to_o be_v make_v unto_o the_o sun_n and_o moon_n and_o star_n but_o than_o it_o must_v be_v note_v that_o this_o father_n hold_v both_o sun_n and_o moon_n and_o star_n to_o be_v intelligible_a creature_n and_o in_o this_o very_a place_n assert_n that_o 238._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id_fw-la pag._n 238._o they_o do_v offer_v up_o their_o prayer_n to_o god_n and_o from_o this_o very_a argument_n conclude_v we_o must_v not_o pray_v to_o they_o because_o they_o pray_v to_o he_o whence_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o he_o conceive_v they_o as_o fit_v and_o able_a to_o be_v our_o intercessor_n as_o the_o saint_n depart_v and_o that_o it_o be_v absurd_a to_o pray_v to_o any_o who_o themselves_o proper_o do_v pray_v for_o we_o and_o 2._o he_o add_v ib._n add_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n id_fw-la ib._n if_o any_o christian_a be_v not_o sufficient_a immediate_o to_o direct_v his_o prayer_n to_o god_n let_v he_o address_v they_o to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n make_v no_o mention_n of_o a_o address_n to_o be_v prefer_v either_o to_o saint_n or_o angel_n or_o to_o the_o b._n virgin_n in_o this_o case_n 3._o he_o add_v that_o put_v the_o 239._o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n p._n 239._o case_n that_o sun_n moon_n and_o star_n be_v heavenly_a angel_n and_o messenger_n of_o god_n yet_o be_v they_o not_o to_o be_v adore_v for_o this_o but_o he_o who_o messenger_n and_o angel_n they_o be_v where_o by_o the_o way_n observe_v that_o he_o insensible_o slide_v from_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o pray_v to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v to_o adore_v whence_o we_o may_v certain_o conclude_v that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o this_o father_n it_o be_v the_o same_o to_o pray_v to_o any_o person_n and_o to_o adore_v that_o person_n and_o that_o nothing_o may_v be_v invocate_v which_o may_v not_o be_v adore_v last_o it_o be_v evident_a his_o reason_n will_v hold_v good_a as_o well_o against_o address_n make_v to_o saint_n as_o to_o the_o sun_n and_o moon_n they_o be_v neither_o of_o they_o omnipresent_v 3._o they_o say_v he_o only_o must_v be_v pray_v unto_o who_o see_v and_o hear_v every_o where_o let_v we_o consider_v say_v 8._o say_v de_fw-fr orat._n c._n 1._o sect._n 8._o tertullian_n the_o heavenly_a wisdom_n of_o our_o lord_n in_o his_o injunction_n to_o pray_v in_o secret_a whereby_o he_o both_o require_v the_o faith_n of_o man_n confide_v that_o god_n omnipotent_a both_o hear_v and_o see_v under_o our_o roof_n and_o in_o our_o secret_a place_n and_o also_o that_o our_o faith_n be_v modest_a so_o that_o we_o offer_v our_o religion_n unto_o he_o alone_o who_o we_o be_v confident_a do_v
see_v and_o hear_v we_o every_o where_fw-mi and_o chrysostom_n upon_o the_o same_o expression_n find_v fault_n with_o those_o that_o pray_v aloud_o and_o bid_v we_o imitate_v the_o hymn_n and_o melody_n of_o holy_a angel_n who_o pray_v with_o we_o although_o we_o do_v not_o hear_v they_o for_o say_v he_o 137._o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chrysost_n tom._n 2._o homil._n in_o matt._n 19_o pag._n 137._o thou_o do_v not_o pray_v to_o man_n but_o to_o god_n omnipresent_v to_o he_o that_o hear_v before_o thou_o speak_v to_o he_o that_o understand_v what_o the_o mind_n do_v not_o utter_v 4._o because_o he_o only_o can_v answer_v our_o petition_n and_o from_o he_o only_o can_v we_o obtain_v what_o we_o desire_v 3._o desire_v precantes_fw-la sumus_fw-la proomnibus_fw-la imperatoribus_fw-la vitam_fw-la illis_fw-la prolixam_fw-la imperium_fw-la securum_fw-la domun_fw-la tutam_fw-la populum_fw-la probum_fw-la orbem_fw-la quietum_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la hominis_fw-la &_o caesaris_fw-la vota_fw-la sunt_fw-la haec_fw-la ab_fw-la alio_fw-la orare_fw-la non_fw-la possum_fw-la quam_fw-la à_fw-la quo_fw-la i_o scio_fw-la consequnturum_fw-la quoniam_fw-la &_o ipse_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la solus_fw-la praestat_fw-la &_o ego_fw-la sum_fw-la cvi_fw-la impetrare_fw-la debetur_fw-la famulus_fw-la ejus_fw-la qui_fw-la eum_fw-la solum_fw-la observo_fw-la tertul._n apol._n c._n 30._o sect._n 2_o 3._o we_o beg_v for_o all_o our_o emperor_n long_a life_n safe_a empire_n valiant_a army_n a_o faithful_a senate_n a_o honest_a people_n and_o a_o quiet_a world_n and_o whatsoever_o any_o man_n or_o emperor_n can_v wish_v so_o tertullian_n and_o then_o he_o add_v these_o thing_n i_o may_v not_o pray_v for_o from_o any_o other_o but_o from_o he_o of_o who_o i_o know_v i_o shall_v obtain_v they_o because_o both_o it_o be_v he_o who_o alone_o be_v able_a to_o give_v and_o i_o be_o be_v to_o who_o it_o appertain_v to_o obtain_v that_o which_o be_v request_v be_v his_o servant_n who_o observe_v he_o alone_o from_o all_o which_o saying_n it_o be_v evident_a these_o ancient_a father_n do_v not_o only_o think_v as_o we_o now_o do_v that_o all_o our_o intercession_n shall_v be_v make_v to_o god_n but_o also_o that_o they_o do_v it_o for_o these_o very_a reason_n we_o allege_v viz._n that_o he_o alone_o be_v omnipresent_v that_o he_o alone_o discern_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n that_o he_o alone_o be_v able_a to_o confer_v the_o blessing_n which_o we_o want_v and_o pray_v for_o 2_o the_o father_n do_v affirm_v that_o by_o address_v a_o petition_n to_o a_o martyr_n saint_n or_o angel_n we_o become_v guilty_a of_o distraction_n from_o god_n and_o of_o desert_v our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n 135._o christ_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d euseb_n hist_o eccl._n l._n 4._o c._n 15._o pag._n 135._o we_o can_v be_v induce_v say_v the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n to_o forsake_v christ_n or_o worship_v any_o other_o person_n where_o first_o it_o well_o deserve_v to_o be_v note_v that_o what_o be_v in_o the_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v in_o the_o ancient_a interpreter_n of_o the_o act_n of_o polycarp_n alteri_fw-la cviquam_fw-la orationis_fw-la precem_fw-la impendere_fw-la we_o can_v pray_v to_o any_o other_o 27._o act._n polyc_a in_o append_v ignat_fw-la usser_n p._n 27._o and_o what_o the_o jew_n object_v that_o if_o the_o christian_n can_v obtain_v the_o martyr_n body_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d desert_v christ_n they_o will_v begin_v to_o worship_v he_o be_v by_o the_o metaphra_v thus_o render_v huic_fw-la fundenda_fw-la esset_fw-la oratio_fw-la singulorum_fw-la they_o will_v all_o pray_v unto_o he_o now_o see_v this_o translation_n be_v of_o such_o credit_n in_o the_o western_a church_n that_o it_o be_v read_v in_o their_o assembly_n it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o church_n do_v ancient_o conceive_v 1_o that_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n do_v deny_v that_o any_o genuine_a christian_n will_v pray_v to_o any_o saint_n depart_v 2._o that_o to_o put_v up_o a_o petition_n to_o a_o martyr_n be_v to_o renounce_v their_o saviour_n and_o 3._o that_o to_o pray_v to_o and_o afford_v religious_a worship_n to_o a_o martyr_n be_v the_o same_o and_o 4._o that_o we_o must_v only_o put_v up_o our_o petition_n to_o the_o son_n of_o god_n because_o he_o only_o must_v be_v worship_v second_o observe_v the_o reason_n of_o this_o assertion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n we_o can_v worship_v any_o other_o deliver_v in_o these_o word_n for_o he_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n we_o worship_v but_o the_o martyr_n as_o the_o disciple_n and_o follower_n of_o the_o lord_n we_o high_o love_v for_o their_o exceed_a great_a affection_n to_o their_o own_o king_n and_o master_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n can_v have_v inform_v they_o of_o a_o better_a reason_n why_o they_o shall_v affect_v they_o viz._n as_o be_v intercessor_n and_o mediator_n for_o and_o patron_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n and_o the_o procurer_n of_o all_o spiritual_a blessing_n for_o they_o she_o can_v have_v tell_v they_o it_o be_v ignorant_o do_v to_o comprehend_v that_o service_n which_o be_v due_a to_o the_o decease_a martyr_n in_o this_o one_o expression_n we_o love_v they_o worthy_o for_o if_o the_o veneration_n and_o worship_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v nay_o the_o worship_n of_o their_o very_a ash_n have_v be_v the_o constant_a custom_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n and_o if_o the_o invocation_n of_o they_o be_v that_o which_o holy_a scripture_n teach_v and_o the_o apostle_n have_v deliver_v and_o which_o the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v always_o practise_v as_o be_v deliver_v in_o the_o *_o catechism_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 8._o part._n 3._o c._n 2._o sect._n 8._o it_o may_v be_v well_o admire_v that_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n which_o daily_o practise_v say_v they_o this_o veneration_n and_o invocation_n of_o the_o holy_a martyr_n shall_v without_o distinction_n appropriate_v all_o worship_n and_o adoration_n to_o the_o son_n of_o god_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o martyr_n and_o comprehend_v the_o service_n they_o perform_v to_o the_o bless_a martyr_n in_o a_o word_n which_o do_v not_o in_o the_o least_o import_n the_o veneration_n which_o they_o daily_o practise_v 2._o observe_v the_o reason_n which_o be_v give_v by_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n why_o they_o can_v not_o worship_v any_o other_o viz._n because_o they_o worship_v the_o son_n of_o god_n if_o any_o worship_n have_v be_v then_o pay_v to_o martyr_n or_o any_o other_o saint_n depart_v by_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n what_o can_v have_v be_v more_o stupid_a than_o this_o way_n of_o reason_v now_o that_o this_o doctrine_n be_v introduce_v into_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n we_o hear_v they_o speak_v thus_o 11._o thus_o tantum_n abest_fw-la ut_fw-la sanctis_fw-la invocandis_fw-la dei_fw-la gloria_fw-la minuacur_fw-la ut_fw-la eo_fw-la maximè_fw-la augeatur_fw-la cat._n rom._n part_n 3._o c._n 2._o sect._n 11._o we_o worship_v saint_n and_o martyr_n in_o honour_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n so_o far_o do_v they_o esteem_v that_o honour_n which_o they_o pay_v to_o he_o from_o be_v any_o prejudice_n unto_o the_o worship_n of_o those_o bless_a spirit_n 3._o observe_v the_o argument_n which_o the_o jew_n urge_v to_o move_v the_o proconsul_n to_o retain_v the_o body_n viz._n that_o if_o the_o christian_n can_v obtain_v it_o it_o may_v be_v fear_v they_o will_v leave_v christ_n and_o worship_n polycarp_n the_o jew_n can_v not_o be_v ignorant_a of_o what_o the_o christian_n practise_v in_o this_o case_n by_o reason_n of_o those_o numerous_a apostate_n who_o daily_o leave_v the_o church_n and_o of_o that_o liberty_n they_o have_v to_o come_v to_o their_o assembly_n have_v then_o the_o christian_n worship_v other_o martyr_n with_o christ_n and_o have_v they_o profess_v to_o do_v it_o for_o his_o sake_n and_o honour_n can_v this_o have_v be_v object_v by_o the_o jew_n with_o any_o sense_n and_o reason_n that_o they_o will_v quit_v jesus_n christ_n that_o they_o may_v worship_v polycarp_n must_v they_o not_o rather_o have_v object_v that_o with_o christ_n they_o will_v worship_v polycarp_n which_o since_o they_o do_v not_o we_o may_v well_o suspect_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n give_v they_o no_o reason_n so_o to_o do_v athanasius_n discourse_v upon_o these_o word_n of_o jacob_n the_o angel_n that_o deliver_v i_o from_o all_o evil_a defend_v the_o lad_n which_o by_o the_o arian_n be_v urge_v to_o the_o same_o purpose_n as_o they_o be_v use_v by_o roman_a catholic_n viz._n to_o prove_v that_o invocation_n be_v not_o so_o proper_a to_o god_n but_o that_o it_o may_v be_v use_v to_o creature_n and_o therefore_o that_o it_o be_v no_o evidence_n that_o christ_n be_v god_n declare_v that_o jacob_n do_v not_o speak_v of_o a_o create_a angel_n 1._o because_o he_o join_v the_o angel_n with_o god_n and_o say_v 260._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d
so_o frequent_a in_o those_o writer_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o comment_n on_o the_o place_n mention_v these_o bless_a apostle_n be_v not_o so_o careful_a to_o prevent_v the_o error_n and_o mistake_v of_o heretic_n in_o this_o particular_a as_o be_v the_o doctor_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n they_o do_v not_o seem_v so_o tender_a of_o the_o invotion_n and_o worship_n of_o those_o bless_a spirit_n or_o so_o solicitous_a we_o may_v not_o loose_v so_o great_a a_o benefit_n as_o be_v those_o roman_a doctor_n which_o give_v we_o reason_n to_o conjecture_v not_o that_o their_o knowledge_n or_o their_o piety_n be_v less_o but_o that_o they_o do_v not_o very_o much_o approve_v that_o doctrine_n which_o give_v the_o rise_n unto_o this_o superstition_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n and_o so_o much_o for_o the_o first_o particular_a 2._o that_o both_o the_o jew_n and_o christian_n abstain_v from_o this_o practice_n because_o they_o do_v not_o think_v this_o honour_n to_o be_v due_a to_o angel_n but_o to_o god_n alone_o be_v evident_a from_o what_o we_o have_v discourse_v already_o to_o confirm_v this_o inference_n the_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n leave_v we_o no_o precept_n or_o example_n to_o put_v up_o our_o petition_n to_o depart_a saint_n and_o therefore_o they_o conceive_v it_o the_o worship_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o 2_o have_v remove_v and_o take_v off_o those_o reason_n which_o the_o romanist_n assign_v of_o this_o neglect_n it_o follow_v that_o that_o reason_n must_v stand_v good_a which_o we_o assign_v at_o least_o till_o they_o can_v find_v a_o better_a with_o we_o consent_v the_o learned_a jew_n 1_o jew_n joseph_n albus_n l._n 3._o in_o icarim_n c._n 18._o idololatriam_fw-la primam_fw-la corum_fw-la fulsse_n existimans_fw-la qui_fw-la angelos_n &_o simile_n creaturas_fw-la ut_fw-la sequestres_fw-mi inter_fw-la se_fw-la at_o deum_fw-la colluissent_fw-la ait_fw-la deum_fw-la in_o decalogo_fw-la quando_fw-la ait_fw-la non_fw-la cru●t_fw-la tibi_fw-la dit_fw-fr a●ieni_fw-la ante_fw-la faciem_fw-la meam_fw-la id_fw-la voluisse_fw-la ne_fw-la homines_fw-la ullos_fw-la ponerent_fw-la sequestres_fw-mi aut_fw-la deprecatores_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la &_o ipsos_fw-la vossiu_fw-la in_o maim_v de_fw-fr idolol_n c._n 2._o sect._n 1_o josephus_n albus_n suppose_v this_o worship_n of_o the_o angel_n as_o mediator_n betwixt_o god_n and_o we_o to_o be_v the_o most_o antique_a idolatry_n and_o locum_fw-la and_o fundamentum_fw-la mandati_fw-la de_fw-la idololatria_fw-la est_fw-la nequis_fw-la serviat_fw-la creaturae_fw-la non_fw-la angelo_n non_fw-la sphae●ae_fw-la non_fw-la stellae_fw-la quanquam_fw-la autem_fw-la be_v qui_fw-la ca_fw-mi colit_fw-la sciat_fw-la illa_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la deum_fw-la ac_fw-la colat_fw-la creaturam_fw-la hanc_fw-la quomodo_fw-la coluit_fw-la euos_a &_o illius_fw-la coaetanei_fw-la nihilomi●us_fw-la est_fw-la idololatria_fw-la maim_v ibid._n maimonides_n sue_v definitione_n non_fw-la tantum_fw-la se_fw-la complecti_fw-la ait_fw-la eos_n qui_fw-la creaturis_fw-la cultum_fw-la exhibent_fw-la we_o deo_fw-la verum_fw-la qui_fw-la iis_fw-la supplicant_n ut_fw-la ministris_fw-la dei_fw-la diony_n vossius_fw-la in_o locum_fw-la maimon_n add_v that_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o precept_n of_o idolatry_n be_v this_o that_o no_o man_n serve_v or_o worship_v any_o angel_n or_o create_v be_v as_o the_o foundation_n of_o our_o last_o evidence_n of_o that_o idolatry_n which_o be_v in_o this_o particular_a commit_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 9_o §._o 9_o we_o do_v premise_v 1._o that_o magic_n be_v that_o art_n of_o divination_n which_o in_o conversant_a about_o the_o revelation_n of_o thing_n contingent_a and_o conceal_v as_o v._o g._n touch_v the_o victory_n of_o contend_v party_n the_o future_a condition_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n the_o declaration_n of_o our_o future_a state_n fortune_n marriage_n death_n prosperity_n adversity_n and_o many_o other_o thing_n which_o it_o be_v very_o useful_a for_o mankind_n to_o know_v b._n alii_fw-la dicunt_fw-la hos_fw-la esse_fw-la effectus_fw-la bonorum_fw-la angelorum_fw-la delrio_n disq_fw-la mag._n l._n 2._o qu._n 2._o p._n 96._o b._n 2_o i_o premise_v that_o there_o be_v among_o the_o ancients_n a_o opinion_n that_o by_o the_o help_n of_o soul_n depart_v or_o good_a angel_n they_o may_v obtain_v the_o knowledge_n of_o thing_n contingent_a and_o conceal_v and_o hence_o that_o divination_n which_o they_o exercise_v who_o do_v pretend_v to_o know_v thing_n secret_a or_o contingent_a by_o their_o mean_n be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o white_a magic_n in_o opposition_n to_o divination_n by_o evil_a spirit_n which_o they_o style_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o black_a magic_n it_o be_v a_o very_a old_a opinion_n especial_o of_o the_o platonist_n of_o jamblick_a porphyry_n plotinus_n proclus_n and_o julian_n the_o apostate_n that_o divination_n be_v the_o effect_n of_o holy_a angel_n so_o b._n so_o disquis_fw-la mag._n l._n 2._o qu._n 2._o p._n 96._o b._n delrio_n 3_o delrio_n strom._n 3_o magician_n who_o observe_v angel_n and_o demon_n be_v careful_a to_o abstain_v from_o wine_n and_o venery_n and_o live_a creature_n so_o st._n clemens_n and_o 3._o i_o premise_v that_o this_o white_a magic_n be_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n condemn_v as_o idolatry_n for_o such_o be_v all_o unlawful_a magic_n say_v 3._o say_v tacita_n idololatria_fw-la est_fw-la omnis_fw-la magia_n prohibita_fw-la belrio_fw-la l._n 1._o disqu_fw-la mag._n cap._n 1._o p._n 3._o col._n 3._o delrio_n whosoever_o exercise_v the_o art_n of_o divination_n or_o consult_v they_o that_o do_v it_o be_v guilty_a of_o have_v other_o god_n say_v 130._o say_v estius_n in_o sent._n 3_o do_v 4._o sect._n 6._o p._n 130._o estius_n because_o they_o attribute_v unto_o the_o creature_n what_o be_v god_n propriety_n viz._n the_o knowledge_n of_o thing_n future_a and_o which_o in_o nature_n have_v no_o certain_a cause_n but_o which_o depend_v upon_o the_o will_n of_o man_n or_o other_o thing_n which_o be_v mutable_a valentianus_n add_v that_o they_o affront_v his_o majesty_n by_o a_o vain_a expectation_n of_o those_o thing_n from_o creature_n which_o be_v to_o be_v expect_v only_o from_o god_n for_o god_n have_v say_v declare_v to_o we_o thing_n future_a that_o we_o may_v know_v that_o you_o be_v go_n the_o knowledge_n of_o thing_n future_a and_o contingent_a must_v be_v the_o knowledge_n proper_a unto_o god_n alone_o and_o again_o the_o procuration_n of_o the_o knowledge_n of_o thing_n hide_v or_o secret_a belong_v to_o divine_a worship_n for_o these_o be_v to_o be_v expect_v only_o from_o god_n by_o prayer_n and_o other_o lawful_a mean_n when_o therefore_o we_o expect_v they_o vain_o from_o the_o creature_n we_o do_v ascribe_v unto_o the_o creature_n that_o worship_n which_o be_v proper_o divine_a these_o thing_n premise_v 4._o i_o add_v that_o either_o this_o white_a magic_n must_v be_v lawful_a or_o else_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n as_o it_o be_v practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n must_v be_v unlawful_a and_o guilty_a of_o idolatry_n either_o we_o vain_o do_v expect_v that_o they_o shall_v hear_v and_o understand_v our_o mental_a prayer_n and_o know_v the_o secret_n of_o our_o heart_n or_o the_o magician_n who_o do_v expect_v the_o knowledge_n of_o thing_n secret_a or_o contingent_a by_o those_o bless_a spirit_n can_v be_v just_o charge_v with_o idolatry_n for_o whatsoever_o the_o romanist_n pretend_v in_o vindication_n of_o the_o first_o do_v equal_o excuse_v and_o vindicate_v the_o second_o for_o if_o you_o do_v conjecture_v with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o the_o affection_n of_o those_o bless_a spirit_n to_o mankind_n be_v so_o exceed_v great_a that_o it_o will_v prompt_v they_o most_o assure_o to_o intercede_v in_o our_o behalf_n for_o other_o temporal_a concern_v to_o be_v our_o refuge_n and_o protector_n and_o to_o minister_v to_o the_o concernement_n both_o of_o this_o and_o of_o the_o future_a life_n why_o may_v we_o not_o conceive_v that_o the_o same_o love_n shall_v move_v they_o to_o declare_v those_o future_a thing_n which_o it_o do_v equal_o concern_v we_o to_o know_v both_o that_o we_o may_v obtain_v the_o great_a blessing_n and_o may_v be_v able_a to_o fly_v and_o to_o prevent_v the_o great_a peril_n or_o may_v prepare_v to_o bear_v those_o evil_n with_o a_o christian_a courage_n which_o we_o can_v escape_v when_o florentius_n have_v lose_v his_o cloak_n 424._o t._n g._n p._n 424._o and_o have_v not_o where_o withal_o to_o buy_v another_o by_o pray_v to_o the_o twenty_o martyr_n catch_v a_o fish_n with_o a_o gold_n ring_n in_o it_o sufficient_a i_o suppose_v to_o buy_v another_o caniw_o e_o doubt_v but_o when_o we_o lose_v a_o cloak_n that_o pray_v to_o all_o saint_n and_o angel_n some_o kind_a heart_a saint_n that_o perhaps_o in_o his_o life_n time_n lose_v his_o own_o and_o so_o must_v be_v suppose_v according_a to_o 4._o to_o part._n 3._o cap._n 2._o sect._n 4._o t._n g._n to_o be_v more_o ready_a than_o the_o rest_n to_o pity_v any_o
anathema_n then_o shall_v i_o think_v this_o synod_n and_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n intend_v only_o to_o forbid_v such_o invocation_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n as_o make_v they_o god_n or_o sole_a and_o primary_n mediator_n will_v make_v a_o law_n m_o 〈◊〉_d not_o to_o pray_v to_o angel_n and_o thus_o decree_n whosoever_o shall_v go_v and_o invocate_v the_o angel_n let_v he_o be_v anathema_n when_o i_o can_v find_v that_o such_o determination_n and_o decree_n shall_v pass_v for_o current_n in_o a_o church_n or_o nation_n without_o all_o limitation_n or_o restriction_n for_o some_o hundred_o year_n though_o contradictory_n to_o what_o they_o practise_v and_o believe_v then_o shall_v i_o be_v induce_v to_o believe_v this_o canon_n can_v be_v thus_o admit_v and_o confirm_v as_o a_o law_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n in_o contradiction_n to_o their_o faith_n and_o practice_n chap._n xii_o the_o content_n the_o invocation_n of_o angel_n confute_v from_o the_o testimony_n of_o irenaeus_n and_o st_o augustin_n etc._n etc._n sect._n 1_o from_o the_o testimony_n of_o origen_n sect._n 2._o the_o exception_n of_o t._n g._n against_o they_o large_o confute_v sect._n 3_o the_o testimony_n cite_v from_o origen_n hom._n in_o ezech._n consider_v sect._n 4._o to_o this_o so_o pregnant_a testimony_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n we_o shall_v adjoyn_v such_o say_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n as_o do_v direct_o overthrow_v this_o doctrine_n or_o manifest_o affirm_v that_o no_o such_o practice_n be_v allow_v by_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n 57_o non_fw-fr est_fw-fr numerum_fw-la dicere_fw-la gratiarum_fw-la quas_fw-la per_fw-la universum_fw-la mundum_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la a_o deo_fw-la accipiens_fw-la in_o nomine_fw-la christi_fw-la jesus_n crucifixi_fw-la sub_fw-la pontio_n pilato_n per_fw-la singulos_fw-la dies_fw-la in_o opitulationem_fw-la gentium_fw-la perficit_fw-la neque_fw-la seducens_fw-la aliquem_fw-la nec_fw-la pecuniam_fw-la ei_fw-la auferens_fw-la nec_fw-la invocationibus_fw-la angelicis_fw-la faciat_fw-la i._n facit_fw-la aliquid_fw-la nec_fw-la incantationibus_fw-la nec_fw-la aliqua_fw-la prava_fw-la curiositate_fw-la sed_fw-la mundè_fw-la purè_fw-la &_o manifestè_fw-la orationes_fw-la dirigens_fw-la ad_fw-la dominum_fw-la qui_fw-la omne_fw-la fecit_fw-la &_o nomen_fw-la domini_fw-la nostri_fw-la jesus_n christi_fw-la invocans_fw-la virtutes_fw-la secundum_fw-la utilitates_fw-la hominum_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la ad_fw-la seductionem_fw-la perfecit_fw-la iren._n l._n 2._o c._n 57_o thus_o in_o the_o second_o century_n it_o be_v declare_v by_o irenaeus_n that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n do_v nothing_o by_o the_o invocation_n of_o angel_n but_o pure_o simple_o and_o open_o address_v her_o prayer_n to_o god_n and_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n to_o this_o t._n g._n reply_v that_o irenaeus_n speak_v only_o of_o such_o superstitious_a invocate_a of_o angel_n as_o be_v use_v by_o the_o martionite_n and_o carpocratian_o in_o their_o magical_a operation_n and_o work_v of_o false_a miracle_n p._n 388._o repl._n 1_o the_o word_n of_o irenaeus_n do_v absolute_o say_v that_o christian_n do_v nothing_o by_o the_o invocation_n of_o angel_n which_o if_o t._n g._n will_v limit_v thus_o he_o stand_v oblige_v in_o equity_n and_o and_o by_o the_o law_n of_o disputation_n to_o give_v some_o reason_n of_o that_o limitation_n which_o since_o he_o have_v not_o do_v it_o be_v apparent_a that_o he_o have_v answer_v nothing_o to_o the_o doctor_n argument_n but_o 2._o what_o he_o reply_v as_o it_o be_v absolute_o groundless_a so_o be_v it_o false_a and_o inconsistent_a with_o the_o word_n of_o irenaeus_n for_o he_o do_v manifest_o distinguish_v betwixt_o those_o magical_a operation_n and_o the_o invocation_n of_o holy_a angel_n and_o affirm_v that_o the_o church_n do_v nothing_o by_o incantation_n or_o by_o angelic_a invocation_n 3._o he_o do_v oppose_v unto_o this_o angelic_a invocation_n the_o invocation_n and_o direct_v of_o our_o prayer_n pure_o to_o god_n and_o christ_n what_o therefore_o he_o ascribe_v thus_o pure_o unto_o god_n and_o christ_n he_o must_v be_v deem_v to_o deny_v to_o angel_n and_o consequent_o must_v deny_v that_o they_o direct_v their_o petition_n to_o they_o beside_o why_o do_v he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o church_n address_v her_o petition_n to_o that_o god_n who_o make_v all_o thing_n if_o not_o to_o show_v that_o this_o be_v the_o true_a reason_n of_o our_o pray_v to_o he_o alone_o see_v he_o only_o be_v the_o maker_n of_o all_o thing_n 4._o he_o manifest_o speak_v of_o the_o miraculous_a gift_n of_o christian_n in_o cure_v disease_n and_o cast_v out_o of_o devil_n which_o thing_n not_o only_a irenaeus_n but_o 7._o but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lib._n 3._o contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la p._n 124._o l._n 1._o p._n 7._o origen_n affirm_v to_o be_v perform_v only_o by_o the_o invocation_n of_o the_o name_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n lactantius_n tell_v we_o that_o 16._o that_o ille_fw-la autem_fw-la prese_n mundi_fw-la &_o rector_n universi_fw-la qui_fw-la scit_fw-la omne_fw-la cujus_fw-la divinis_fw-la oculis_fw-la nihil_fw-la septum_fw-la est_fw-la solus_fw-la habet_fw-la rerum_fw-la omnium_fw-la cum_fw-la filio_fw-la svo_fw-la potestatem_fw-la nec_fw-la in_o angelis_n quicquam_fw-la nisi_fw-la parendi_fw-la nicessitas_fw-la it_o que_fw-la nullum_fw-la sibi_fw-la honorem_fw-la tribui_fw-la volunt_fw-la quorum_fw-la omnis_fw-la honour_n in_o dao_n est_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 16._o the_o holy_a angel_n will_v not_o have_v any_o honour_n bestow_v on_o they_o because_o their_o honour_n be_v in_o god_n and_o they_o have_v nothing_o else_o to_o do_v but_o to_o obey_v s._n chrysostome_n be_v very_o copious_a on_o this_o subject_n for_o 1._o he_o tell_v we_o the_o devil_n bring_v in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._n e._n the_o call_v upon_o angel_n as_o be_v apparent_a from_o its_o opposition_n to_o call_v upon_o god_n and_o that_o say_v he_o he_o do_v endeavour_v to_o rob_v we_o of_o this_o honour_n of_o go_v unto_o god_n by_o christ_n alone_a as_o be_v apparent_a from_o the_o word_n precede_v 〈◊〉_d precede_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v all_o thing_n by_o god_n and_o introduce_v not_o angel_n and_o last_o he_o conclude_v in_o these_o expression_n 139._o expression_n hom._n 9_o in_o epist_n ad_fw-la coloss_n tom._n 4._o p._n 139._o be_v he_o angel_n or_o archangel_n or_o cherubin_n do_v not_o suffer_v it_o for_o neither_o will_v these_o power_n receive_v this_o honour_n but_o reject_v it_o when_o they_o see_v their_o lord_n dishonour_v i_o have_v honour_v thou_o say_v god_n and_o have_v say_v call_v upon_o i_o and_o do_v thou_o dishonour_v he_o again_o 443._o again_o hom._n 3._o ad_fw-la heb._n p._n 443._o why_o gape_v you_o say_v he_o after_o angel_n they_o be_v our_o fellow_n servant_n now_o from_o that_o very_a name_n the_o father_n argue_v that_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v adore_v hence_o 394._o hence_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n orat._n 3._o p._n 394._o athanasius_n conclude_v no_o creature_n ought_v to_o adore_v his_o fellow_n creature_n though_o he_o be_v a_o angel_n because_o the_o angel_n say_v to_o john_n see_v thou_o do_v it_o not_o i_o be_o thy_o fellow_n servant_n and_o gregory_n nazianzen_n say_v 669._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nazianz._n orat._n qudragessim_n p._n 668_o 669._o if_o i_o adore_v the_o creature_n what_o shall_v i_o say_v to_o the_o idolatrous_a heathen_a since_o i_o myself_o adore_v my_o fellow_n servant_n for_o creature_n be_v all_o servant_n though_o some_o more_o excellent_a than_o other_o of_o the_o same_o judgement_n be_v st._n angustin_n who_o speak_v thus_o 42._o thus_o quem_fw-la invenirem_fw-la qui_fw-la i_o reconciliatet_fw-la tibi_fw-la a_o eundum_fw-la mihi_fw-la suis_fw-la ad_fw-la angelos_n qua_fw-la prece_fw-la quibus_fw-la aacramentis_fw-la multi_fw-la conantes_fw-la ad_fw-la te_fw-la redire_fw-la neque_fw-la per_fw-la seipsos_fw-la valentes_fw-la sicut_fw-la audio_fw-la tentave●unt_fw-la haec_fw-la &_o inciderunt_fw-la in_o desiderium_fw-la curiosarum_fw-la visionum_fw-la &_o digni_fw-la habiti_fw-la sunt_fw-la illusionibus_fw-la counsel_n l._n 10._o c._n 42._o who_o shall_v i_o find_v that_o may_v reconcile_v i_o unto_o thou_o shall_v i_o have_v go_v unto_o the_o angel_n with_o what_o prayer_n with_o what_o sacrament_n many_o endeavour_v to_o return_v unto_o thou_o and_o not_o be_v not_o able_a to_o do_v it_o by_o themselves_o as_o i_o here_o have_v try_v those_o thing_n and_o have_v fall_v into_o the_o desire_n of_o curious_a vision_n and_o be_v account_v worthy_a of_o illusion_n 23._o de_fw-fr c._n d._n l._n 9_o c._n 23._o elsewhere_o he_o tell_v we_o those_o bless_a spirit_n however_o they_o be_v call_v be_v no_o mediator_n to_o bring_v miserable_a mortal_n to_o blessedness_n and_o immortality_n where_o say_v the_o doctor_n 154._o p._n 154._o it_o will_v be_v ridiculous_a to_o distinguish_v between_o mediator_n of_o redemption_n and_o intercession_n for_o all_o that_o they_o attribute_v to_o their_o good_a spirit_n be_v only_a intercession_n to_o this_o t._n g._n reply_v 376._o p._n 375_o 376._o that_o
accusation_n which_o run_v thus_o viz._n that_o the_o dr._n say_v that_o baronius_n very_o fair_o tell_v we_o 383._o p._n 383._o that_o not_o only_o what_o theodoret_n condemn_v but_o what_o st._n paul_n too_o condemn_v be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n answ_n these_o word_n baronius_n fair_o tell_v we_o say_v the_o dr._n that_o what_o st._n paul_n condemn_v be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n be_v a_o malicious_a untruth_n the_o dr._n have_v take_v all_o the_o care_n imaginable_a to_o prevent_v this_o mistake_n in_o all_o judicious_a reader_n for_o this_o expression_n and_o st._n paul_n too_o which_o be_v the_o only_a ground_n of_o this_o rude_a charge_n he_o do_v not_o only_o put_v in_o a_o parenthesis_n but_o in_o a_o different_a character_n that_o so_o no_o reader_n may_v have_v the_o least_o appearance_n of_o colour_n for_o so_o false_a a_o imputation_n this_o t._n g._n see_v as_o be_v apparent_a from_o the_o word_n cite_v by_o he_o p._n 380._o and_o therefore_o when_o he_o come_v to_o lay_v his_o accusation_n p._n 383._o sect._n 3_o he_o very_o crafty_o set_v down_o the_o doctor_n word_n without_o parenthesis_n or_o any_o difference_n of_o the_o character_n this_o i_o be_o sure_a be_v foul_a deal_n and_o these_o be_v pitiful_a art_n of_o sophistry_n what_o therefore_o dr._n stillingfleet_n assert_n be_v only_o that_o baronius_n tell_v we_o 21._o we_o exit_fw-la his_fw-la videas_fw-la quod_fw-la necessario_fw-la dicendum_fw-la est_fw-la theodoretum_n haud_fw-la feliciter_fw-la ejus_fw-la pace_fw-la sit_fw-la dictum_fw-la assecutum_fw-la esse_fw-la pauli_n verborum_fw-la sensum_fw-la cum_fw-la in_o huius_fw-la ad_fw-la colossenses_n epistolae_fw-la commentariis_fw-la dicit_fw-la haec_fw-la a_o paulo_n esse_fw-la scripta_fw-la quod_fw-la tum_fw-la grassarentur_fw-la haeretici_fw-la qui_fw-la angelos_n colendos_fw-la esse_fw-la jactarent_fw-la sic_fw-la ergo_fw-la errore_fw-la semel_fw-la lapsus_fw-la in_o alium_fw-la graviorem_fw-la impegit_fw-la ut_fw-la diceret_fw-la canonem_fw-la trigessimum_fw-la quintum_fw-la laodiceni_fw-la concilii_fw-la de_fw-la his_fw-la haereticis_fw-la esse_fw-la intelligendum_fw-la qui_fw-la angelos_n colendos_fw-la esse_fw-la docerent_fw-la quique_fw-la in_o eadem_fw-la region_fw-la asiae_n oratoria_fw-la erexissent_fw-la sancto_fw-it michaeli_n archangelo_fw-la incautè_fw-la nimis_fw-la quae_fw-la a_o catholicis_fw-la essent_fw-la antiquitus_fw-la instituta_fw-la haereticis_fw-la quorum_fw-la nulla_fw-la esset_fw-la memoria_fw-la tribuens_fw-la annal._n an._n 60._o §_o 20._o caeterum_fw-la angelos_n venerari_fw-la non_fw-la haereticorum_fw-la sed_fw-la catholicae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la mos_fw-la fuit_fw-la §_o 21._o that_o what_o theodoret_n condemn_v and_o in_o his_o judgement_n st._n paul_n too_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n than_o which_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o true_a and_o certain_a for_o have_v tell_v we_o that_o theodoret_n assert_v haec_fw-la a_o paulo_n esse_fw-la scripta_fw-la quod_fw-la tum_fw-la grassarentur_fw-la haeretici_fw-la qui_fw-la angelos_n colendos_fw-la esse_fw-la jactarent_fw-la or_o that_o the_o admonition_n beware_v lest_o any_o man_n deceive_v you_o by_o worship_v of_o angel_n etc._n etc._n be_v write_v by_o st._n paul_n by_o reason_n of_o some_o heretic_n who_o teach_v that_o angel_n shall_v be_v worship_v and_o that_o the_o 35_o canon_n of_o laodicea_n be_v direct_v against_o such_o heretic_n as_o worship_v angel_n he_o add_v caeterum_fw-la angelos_n venerari_fw-la non_fw-la haereticorum_fw-la sed_fw-la catholicae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la mos_fw-la fuit_fw-la this_o he_o erroneous_o teach_v but_o to_o worship_v angel_n be_v not_o the_o custom_n of_o heretic_n but_o of_o the_o church_n catholic_n and_o now_o let_v the_o discern_a reader_n judge_v what_o reason_n t._n g._n 381._o p._n 381._o have_v to_o say_v that_o these_o be_v not_o baronius_n his_o word_n but_o the_o doctor_n which_o be_v another_o of_o his_o demonstration_n that_o it_o be_v but_o too_o too_o evident_a that_o the_o dr._n have_v not_o deal_v fair_o with_o baronius_n but_o say_v t._n ibid._n ibid._n g._n these_o be_v not_o baronius_n his_o word_n but_o the_o doctor_n for_o baronius_n say_v there_o express_o that_o theodoret_n as_o to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o veneration_n of_o angel_n recta_fw-la sensit_fw-la that_o be_v hold_v the_o same_o which_o the_o roman_a church_n hold_v at_o his_o day_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v in_o his_o own_o expression_n such_o art_n as_o these_o be_v enough_o to_o make_v a_o man_n suspect_v a_o good_a cause_n 145._o p._n 145._o much_o more_o to_o desert_v a_o bad_a one_o for_o baronius_n do_v not_o absolute_o say_v that_o theodoret_n do_v rectum_fw-la sentire_fw-la but_o make_v a_o manifest_a exception_n as_o to_o this_o his_o interpretation_n of_o st._n paul_n and_o the_o forementioned_a canon_n his_o word_n be_v these_o 23._o these_o his_o igitur_fw-la de_fw-la germano_fw-la sensu_fw-la illius_fw-la canonis_fw-la elucidatis_n satis_fw-la theodoreti_n perperam_fw-la facta_fw-la interpretatio_fw-la remanet_fw-la refutata_fw-la cum_fw-la alioqui_fw-la n._n b._n in_o his_o quae_fw-la spectant_fw-la ad_fw-la dogmata_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la dubium_fw-la ipsum_fw-la rectum_fw-la sensisse_fw-la de_fw-la angelis_n annal._n an._n 60._o §_o 23._o these_o thing_n touch_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o this_o canon_n be_v thus_o clear_v the_o false_a interpretation_n of_o theodoret_n remain_v sufficient_o confute_v whereas_o otherwise_o as_o to_o his_o doctrine_n it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v doubt_v but_o he_o think_v right_o of_o angel_n which_o passage_n do_v not_o only_o manifest_v the_o wretched_a fraudulency_n of_o t._n g._n 380._o p._n 380._o but_o give_v he_o a_o example_n of_o what_o he_o think_v incredible_a for_o if_o theodoret_n can_v affirm_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o heretical_a practice_n and_o as_o such_o condemn_v both_o by_o st._n paul_n and_o by_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n and_o yet_o hold_v the_o same_o with_o the_o roman_a church_n why_o may_v not_o baronius_n do_v the_o like_a either_o theodoret_n be_v a_o very_a great_a dolt_n or_o baronius_n deal_v not_o fair_o with_o he_o which_o be_v but_o too_o too_o evident_a 2._o t._n g._n conclude_v that_o these_o be_v not_o baronius_n his_o word_n 381._o p._n 381._o because_o the_o point_n in_o which_o baronius_n differ_v from_o theodoret_n be_v not_o that_o those_o be_v not_o condemn_v by_o he_o and_o st._n paul_n too_o who_o worship_v angel_n upon_o the_o erroneous_a account_n aforesaid_a viz._n that_o access_n can_v only_o be_v make_v to_o god_n by_o angel_n but_o that_o theodoret_n judge_v baronius_n mistake_v in_o assert_v the_o author_n of_o that_o doctrine_n not_o to_o have_v be_v the_o heathen_a philosopher_n but_o certain_a heretic_n this_o be_v what_o baronius_n say_v where_o first_o he_o cunning_o but_o false_o do_v insinuate_v that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o theodoret_n st._n paul_n and_o the_o forementioned_a canon_n only_o condemn_v they_o who_o worship_v angel_n upon_o this_o erroneous_a account_n that_o access_n can_v only_o be_v make_v to_o god_n by_o the_o angel_n and_o if_o this_o be_v the_o grievous_a error_n and_o that_o false_a interpretation_n 379._o p._n 379._o with_o which_o baronius_n do_v so_o smart_o charge_v he_o t._n g._n do_v very_o ill_a to_o espouse_v it_o in_o his_o interpretation_n of_o this_o canon_n but_o the_o truth_n be_v theodoret_n in_o the_o exposition_n of_o this_o passage_n of_o st._n paul_n only_o affirm_v that_o this_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o the_o heretic_n but_o do_v not_o in_o the_o least_o insinuate_v that_o either_o the_o council_n or_o st._n paul_n condemn_v they_o only_o upon_o this_o account_n but_o without_o all_o limitation_n or_o exception_n he_o affirm_v that_o they_o condemn_v pray_v to_o they_o 2._o what_o he_o say_v be_v not_o the_o point_n in_o which_o baronius_n differ_v from_o theodoret_n be_v so_o apparent_o the_o point_n though_o not_o the_o only_a point_n that_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o for_o his_o great_a peak_n against_o he_o be_v that_o he_o assert_v that_o both_o st._n paul_n and_o the_o forementioned_a council_n condemn_v the_o heretic_n for_o teach_v the_o worship_n of_o holy_a angel_n whereas_o say_v he_o this_o be_v the_o very_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o not_o of_o heretic_n another_o instance_n of_o the_o doctor_n juggle_a trick_n 386._o the_o dr._n translate_v it_o eqquivocal_o to_o perform_v any_o sacred_a office_n t.g._n p._n 386._o t._n g._n produce_v p._n 386._o viz._n that_o when_o st._n austin_n have_v affirm_v the_o bless_a spirit_n be_v not_o willing_a we_o shall_v sacra_fw-la eye_n facere_fw-la perform_v sacred_a office_n to_o they_o he_o translate_v sacra_fw-la facere_fw-la to_o perform_v sacred_a office_n as_o if_o he_o do_v imagine_v ignorant_a person_n that_o he_o be_v that_o sacra_fw-la signify_v sacred_a office_n and_o facere_fw-la to_o perform_v whereas_o t._n g._n inform_v he_o that_o sacra_fw-la facere_fw-la be_v to_o dedicate_v and_o because_o this_o ridiculous_a interpretation_n will_v not_o help_v he_o out_o for_o papist_n dedicate_v their_o service_n to_o the_o bless_a
doctor_n do_v very_o evident_o prove_v the_o invocation_n of_o bless_a saint_n and_o angel_n to_o be_v according_a to_o their_o judgement_n the_o give_v of_o that_o honour_n to_o they_o which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n and_o so_o be_v proper_o divine_a i_o may_v be_v large_a upon_o the_o second_o head_n viz._n 12._o §_o 12._o in_o give_v many_o pregnant_a demonstration_n that_o he_o n●ost_o wretched_o corrupt_v those_o father_n which_o he_o cite_v or_o answer_n but_o reader_n have_v glut_v thou_o with_o manifold_a example_n of_o thiskind_a already_o part_v 2._o i_o beg_v thou_o to_o accept_v of_o these_o few_o instance_n which_o i_o shall_v represent_v unto_o thy_o view_n note_v what_o he_o have_v add_v to_o the_o word_n of_o those_o few_o father_n which_o he_o have_v venture_v to_o produce_v or_o answer_v in_o a_o large_a character_n 1._o find_v 1._o the_o word_n of_o celsus_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n advers._fw-la cell_n l._n 8._o p._n 416._o what_o t._n g._n cite_v be_v not_o where_o to_o be_v find_v the_o invocation_n which_o celsus_n contend_v for_o be_v votiva_fw-la illis_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la reddere_fw-la t._n g._n p._n 363._o 2._o celsus_n his_o evasion_n be_v that_o none_o be_v to_o be_v honour_v for_o god_n but_o those_o to_o who_o the_o supreme_a god_n do_v communicate_v it_o 384._o 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d celsus_n apud_fw-la orig._n l._n 8._o p._n 384._o t._n g._n p._n 357._o 3._o 385._o 3._o the_o word_n of_o celsus_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n p._n 385._o by_o celsus_n this_o be_v not_o object_v but_o only_o that_o they_o be_v by_o the_o same_o rule_n by_o which_o they_o worship_v christ_n for_o god_n to_o worship_v in_o like_a manner_n the_o inferior_a deity_n p._n 358._o 4._o chrysostom_n say_v that_o some_o among_o the_o collossian_o say_v that_o we_o ought_v to_o be_v reconcile_v and_o have_v access_n to_o the_o father_n not_o by_o christ_n but_o by_o the_o angel_n locum_fw-la 4._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chrys_n in_o locum_fw-la t._n g._n p._n 378._o 5._o the_o reason_n why_o they_o do_v so_o be_v give_v by_o theophylact_fw-mi because_o they_o esteem_v it_o a_o thing_n unworthy_a of_o the_o majesty_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n on_o the_o one_o side_n to_o make_v this_o reconciliation_n coloss_n 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d theophyl_n in_o cap._n 2._o ad_fw-la coloss_n and_o far_o transcend_v man_n poverty_n and_o lowness_n on_o the_o other_o t._n g._n ibid._n this_o i_o confess_v be_v not_o so_o proper_o a_o addition_n because_o he_o own_v it_o so_o to_o be_v as_o a_o most_o palpable_a depravation_n of_o the_o father_n sense_n these_o be_v some_o few_o discovery_n of_o the_o unchristian_a art_n and_o disingenuous_a deportment_n of_o t._n g._n towards_o the_o dr._n i_o wish_v i_o can_v say_v something_o better_o of_o his_o learning_n or_o his_o judgement_n but_o alas_o the_o whole_a book_n clear_o manifest_v that_o he_o be_v unacquainted_a with_o the_o thing_n call_v learning_n let_v any_o man_n produce_v in_o his_o 440_o page_n one_o considerable_a notion_n which_o be_v not_o usher_v in_o with_o the_o great_a name_n of_o dr._n taylor_n or_o of_o mr._n thorndyke_n let_v he_o point_v but_o to_o one_o single_a instance_n wherein_o he_o show_v himself_o a_o scholar_n or_o a_o man_n of_o read_v let_v he_o produce_v one_o observation_n or_o authority_n which_o be_v not_o trivial_a and_o common_a in_o almost_o every_o roman_a pamphlet_n and_o i_o will_v beg_v his_o pardon_n for_o pass_v so_o severe_a a_o censure_n on_o he_o in_o short_a the_o only_a new_a thing_n in_o his_o book_n be_v this_o 369._o p._n 369._o that_o he_o advise_v whore_n to_o have_v recourse_n to_o mary_n magdalene_n last_o his_o want_n of_o judgement_n and_o dexterity_n in_o make_v inference_n 〈◊〉_d note_v that_o the_o word_n honour_v though_o it_o be_v print_v in_o the_o italic_a character_n be_v a_o addition_n of_o his_o own_o the_o canon_n cite_v by_o he_o only_o do_v enjoin_v we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d can_v be_v doubt_v by_o any_o who_o consider_v what_o he_o have_v discourse_v p._n 222_o 223._o and_o p._n 418._o all_o which_o i_o have_v abundant_o refute_v with_o a_o ha_o ha_o he_o and_o to_o consider_v all_o the_o example_n of_o like_a nature_n to_o they_o will_v be_v to_o frame_v a_o second_o answer_n to_o his_o book_n one_o far_a instance_n of_o this_o kind_n we_o have_v p._n 384._o where_o he_o thus_o argue_v the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n both_o in_o in_o the_o canon_n 34_o as_o also_o canon_n 51._o allow_v the_o honour_n and_o celebrate_v the_o feast-daye_n of_o the_o martyr_n which_o be_v a_o plain_a indication_n that_o it_o intend_v not_o to_o condemn_v in_o this_o canon_n the_o worship_n due_a to_o angel_n which_o syllogistical_o run_v thus_o they_o who_o allow_v the_o honour_n and_o celebrate_v the_o feast_n day_n of_o the_o martyr_n can_v intend_v to_o forbid_v the_o invocation_n of_o angel_n but_o the_o canon_n of_o laodicea_n do_v allow_v the_o honour_n and_o celebrate_v the_o feast_n of_o the_o martyr_n ergo._n answ_n and_o be_v it_o not_o notorious_a that_o the_o protestant_n allow_v the_o honour_n and_o celebrate_v the_o feast-day_n of_o many_o martyr_n why_o therefore_o do_v he_o not_o conclude_v that_o they_o can_v condemn_v the_o invocation_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n again_o they_o who_o be_v more_o to_o be_v honour_v than_o man_n be_v to_o be_v invocate_v according_a to_o t._n g._n but_o angel_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o theodoret_n be_v more_o to_o be_v honour_v then_o man_n ergo._n answ_n and_o be_v not_o this_o the_o judgement_n also_o of_o the_o protestans_fw-la why_o therefore_o do_v he_o not_o infer_v that_o protestant_n do_v not_o condemn_v this_o invocation_n and_o now_o consider_v whether_o t._n g._n have_v reason_n to_o usher_v in_o this_o inconsiderate_a and_o childish_a tattle_n with_o the_o ensue_a preface_n it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n can_v with_o any_o show_n 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who_o honour_v his_o person_n and_o his_o wit_n while_o he_o detect_v his_o want_n of_o learning_n and_o of_o judgement_n and_o refute_v his_o calumny_n finis_fw-la
ep_v 110._o p_o 840_o inferioris_fw-la notae_fw-la &_o de_fw-la plebe_fw-la dii_fw-la inferior_a vulgar_a go_n second_o they_o hold_v they_o to_o be_v 3._o be_v austin_n de_fw-fr c._n d._n l._n 9_o c._n 3._o d●i_fw-la facti_fw-la &_o a_o summo_fw-la deo_fw-la conditi_fw-la i.e._n such_o as_o receive_v their_o being_n from_o the_o supreme_a god_n who_o therefore_o by_o the_o latin_n be_v so_o often_o style_v divum_fw-la pater_fw-la and_o by_o the_o greek_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o like_a and_o three_o they_o say_v the_o heathen_n have_v their_o 115._o their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d julian_n apud_fw-la cyril_n alex._n l._n 4._o p._n 115._o commission_n from_o god_n and_o only_o be_v his_o undergovernour_n and_o by_o he_o place_v over_o town_n and_o country_n four_o they_o hold_v the_o worship_n due_a unto_o they_o to_o be_v a_o middle_n and_o inferior_a kind_n of_o worship_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v hierocles_n that_o be_v god_n must_v be_v worship_v with_o latria_n but_o those_o inferior_a daemon_n with_o dulia_n and_o that_o to_o worship_v they_o 10._o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hieroc_n p._n 10._o according_a to_o that_o dignity_n they_o have_v receive_v from_o their_o god_n and_o father_n be_v the_o true_a worship_n due_a unto_o they_o and_o hence_o they_o give_v this_o caution_n in_o pay_v homage_n to_o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hierocles_n page_n the_o 10._o not_o to_o give_v more_o than_o be_v consistent_a with_o their_o dignity_n the_o coloss_n the_o this_o be_v their_o doctrine_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d theodoret_n in_o c._n 2._o ad_fw-la coloss_n angelick_n do_v not_o doubt_v but_o that_o those_o angel_n who_o they_o use_v as_o intercessor_n be_v the_o creature_n and_o minister_n of_o god_n nor_o can_v they_o hope_v to_o reap_v advantage_n by_o their_o intercession_n have_v they_o intend_v by_o so_o do_v to_o confer_v upon_o they_o the_o worship_n proper_a to_o that_o jealous_a god_n who_o 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they_o worship_v the_o father_n to_o contain_v a_o precept_n or_o injunction_n to_o give_v unto_o the_o son_n a_o worship_n equal_a unto_o that_o we_o give_v the_o father_n he_o be_v exceed_o mistake_v 4._o the_o apostle_n tell_v the_o church_n of_o corinth_n that_o he_o who_o in_o the_o temple_n of_o a_o idol_n do_v eat_v and_o drink_v of_o what_o be_v sacrifice_v to_o the_o idol_n do_v drink_v the_o cup_n of_o devil_n and_o be_v make_v partaker_n of_o the_o devil_n table_n and_o have_v communion_n with_o they_o 1_o cor._n 10.20_o 21._o and_o so_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n to_o introduce_v and_o to_o confirm_v this_o charge_n he_o lay_v down_o this_o assertion_n vers_fw-la 7._o that_o they_o who_o do_v sit_v down_o to_o eat_v and_o drink_v of_o what_o be_v offer_v to_o the_o golden_a calf_n be_v by_o so_o do_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n and_o upon_o this_o account_n he_o thus_o exhort_v those_o person_n who_o endulge_v themselves_o in_o this_o unlawful_a practice_n be_v you_o not_o idolater_n as_o be_v some_o of_o they_o whence_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o st._n paul_n judge_v this_o practice_n well_o deserve_v that_o imputation_n and_o yet_o it_o be_v as_o certain_a that_o they_o who_o use_v it_o be_v induce_v to_o do_v so_o upon_o this_o presumption_n that_o they_o conceive_v the_o idol_n to_o be_v nothing_o 19_o 1_o cor._n viij_o 4._o x._o 19_o and_o therefore_o not_o the_o great_a creator_n and_o the_o chief_a good_a hence_o therefore_o we_o infer_v the_o vanity_n and_o falseness_n of_o those_o description_n of_o idolatry_n which_o be_v deliver_v by_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n who_o be_v conscious_a to_o themselves_o and_o have_v open_o confess_v that_o to_o the_o 6._o the_o constans_n est_fw-la theologorum_fw-la sententia_fw-la imaginem_fw-la eodem_fw-la honore_fw-la &_o cultu_fw-la honorari_fw-la &_o coli_fw-la quo_fw-la colitur_fw-la id_fw-la cujus_fw-la est_fw-la imago_fw-la azor_n instit_fw-la moral_n to._n 1_o l._n 9_o c._n 6._o image_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o the_o cross_n and_o of_o the_o bless_a trinity_n they_o give_v that_o worship_n which_o they_o style_v latria_n and_o which_o be_v proper_o divine_a excuse_v themselves_o from_o this_o enormous_a guilt_n by_o say_v that_o they_o do_v not_o give_v this_o worship_n to_o they_o as_o to_o god_n and_o make_v the_o formal_a reason_n of_o idolatry_n consist_v in_o give_v divine_a worship_n to_o the_o creature_n upon_o this_o apprehension_n that_o it_o be_v a_o god_n idolatry_n say_v 1._o say_v l._n 2._o the_o idol_n c._n 1._o gregory_n of_o valence_n be_v a_o superstition_n whereby_o we_o tender_v divine_a honour_n to_o the_o creature_n as_o to_o god_n latria_n or_o that_o adoration_n which_o agree_v to_o god_n alone_o be_v the_o most_o profound_a prostration_n and_o inclination_n of_o the_o will_v attend_v with_o a_o apprehenssion_n of_o god_n as_o the_o first_o principle_n last_o end_n and_o chief_a good_a so_o bellarmine_n b._n bellarmine_n l._n 2._o d●_n eccâ_fw-la triumph_n c._n 12._o p._n 1503_o b._n those_o word_n of_o christ_n thou_o shall_v worship_v the_o lord_n thy_o god_n etc._n etc._n must_v thus_o be_v understand_v thou_o shall_v not_o worship_v false_a god_n as_o the_o heathen_n do_v but_o that_o true_a god_n who_o be_v but_o one_o to_o who_o alone_o theou_fw-mi shall_v exhibit_v divine_a worship_n as_o to_o the_o true_a god_n so_o 1._o so_o manual_a l._n 1._o c._n 7._o qu._n 1._o becanus_n whence_o he_o infer_v they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v count_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n by_o invocation_n and_o adoration_n of_o saint_n depart_v quia_fw-la non_fw-la adorant_fw-la eos_fw-la tanquam_fw-la deos_fw-la 19_o deos_fw-la just_a weight_n chap._n 19_o the_o like_a mistake_n to_o say_v no_o worse_o we_o find_v in_o mr._n thorndike_n when_o he_o assert_n that_o this_o be_v requisite_a to_o make_v the_o romanist_n idolater_n viz._n to_o take_v the_o element_n for_o god_n that_o worship_n may_v be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n 2.5.5_o prog._n 2.5.5_o which_o be_v not_o give_v to_o a_o creature_n with_o a_o intention_n to_o make_v that_o creature_n be_v esteem_v for_o a_o god_n or_o with_o a_o intention_n to_o ascribe_v unto_o that_o creature_n the_o excellency_n which_o agree_v to_o god_n alone_o this_o proposition_n may_v be_v confirm_v by_o what_o we_o have_v discourse_v upon_o the_o first_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o eunomian_o arian_n nestorian_n do_v not_o intend_v by_o any_o worship_n they_o perform_v to_o christ_n to_o work_v in_o any_o this_o estimation_n that_o he_o be_v a_o god_n but_o that_o above_o all_o thing_n they_o do_v endeavour_v to_o persuade_v the_o contrary_a and_o they_o who_o sit_v at_o meat_n in_o idol_n temple_n and_o by_o partake_v of_o thing_n sacrifice_v to_o they_o be_v guilty_a of_o spiritual_a whoredom_n or_o idolatry_n believe_v themselves_o and_o teach_v to_o other_o this_o assertion_n that_o a_o idol_n be_v nothing_o in_o the_o world_n and_o it_o be_v apparent_a also_o that_o according_a to_o this_o principle_n the_o holy_a martyr_n may_v have_v worship_v with_o all_o kind_n of_o honour_n not_o only_o emperor_n and_o king_n but_o even_o their_o prince_n of_o devil_n without_o the_o imputation_n of_o idolatry_n provide_v they_o do_v not_o inward_o intend_v by_o any_o act_n of_o worship_n to_o procure_v unto_o they_o the_o estimation_n of_o a_o deity_n 4._o they_o who_o resort_n unto_o the_o hag_n and_o the_o 7._o the_o peccant_a in_o primum_fw-la preceptum_fw-la qui_fw-la somniss_fw-la auguriis_fw-la caecerisque_fw-la vanissmais_fw-fr be_v rebus_fw-la fridem_fw-la they_fw-mi habent_fw-la catech_n rom_n part_n 3._o c._n 1._o ss_z 7._o magician_n the_o sorcerer_n and_o wizard_n do_v not_o believe_v much_o less_o endavour_n to_o work_v this_o estimation_n in_o the_o heart_n of_o other_o that_o they_o be_v true_o god_n and_o yet_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n condemn_v they_o who_o think_v they_o can_v do_v what_o they_o
pretend_v to_o consult_v these_o wicked_a artist_n as_o person_n guilty_a of_o idolatry_n t._n by_o the_o like_a reason_n no_o marry_a man_n commit_v adultery_n by_o lie_v with_o another_o woman_n provide_v he_o intend_v not_o to_o con_v verse_n with_o any_o other_o under_o the_o notion_n of_o a_o wife_n a_o fine_a expedient_a in_o this_o debauch_a age_n to_o make_v new_a convert_n to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o in_o like_a manner_n no_o subject_n will_v he_o guilty_a of_o rebellion_n though_o he_o desert_n his_o prince_n follow_v the_o ensign_n of_o his_o enemy_n and_o fight_v in_o his_o defence_n against_o his_o sovereign_n provide_v he_o intend_v not_o by_o so_o do_v to_o procure_v to_o his_o enemy_n the_o estimation_n of_o a_o king_n these_o false_a opinion_n be_v thus_o remove_v 6._o §_o 6._o we_o assert_v that_o idolatry_n be_v then_o commit_v when_o any_o honour_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o be_v attribute_v to_o or_o be_v confer_v upon_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v not_o god_n and_o that_o all_o action_n which_o give_v unto_o the_o creature_n the_o honour_n due_a to_o the_o creator_n only_o be_v idolatrous_a and_o this_o description_n of_o idolatry_n be_v that_o which_o be_v receive_v by_o the_o ancient_a schoolman_n till_o the_o dispute_n of_o protestant_n constrain_v they_o to_o renounce_v and_o vary_v from_o it_o thus_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o 1.3_o of_o 2a_fw-la 2ae_fw-la qu._n 94._o art_n 1.3_o aquinas_n it_o be_v idolatry_n cuicunque_fw-la creaturae_fw-la divinum_fw-la cultum_fw-la exhibere_fw-la honerem_fw-la divinum_fw-la creaturae_fw-la impendere_fw-la divinum_fw-la cultum_fw-la exhibere_fw-la cvi_fw-la non_fw-la debet_fw-la exhiberi_fw-la to_o impart_v divine_a worship_n to_o any_o creature_n or_o any_o thing_n to_o which_o it_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v give_v all_o divine_a worship_n give_v to_o a_o creature_n be_v idolatry_n so_o 160._o so_o part._n 2._o qu._n 160._o alexander_n halensis_n to_o omit_v divens_fw-la other_o this_o also_o be_v the_o definition_n or_o description_n of_o idolatry_n we_o have_v receive_v from_o the_o ancient_a father_n of_o the_o church_n 4._o church_n vid._n voss_n de_fw-fr idol_n l._n 1._o c._n 3._o p._n 9_o rainold_n de_fw-fr r._n ecc._n idol_n l._n 2._o c._n 9_o §._o 4._o tertullian_n and_o nazianzen_n st._n augustine_n and_o almost_o all_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a father_n with_o one_o voice_n consent_n to_o this_o idolatry_n be_v then_o commit_v when_o divine_a honour_n be_v ascribe_v to_o another_o hence_o that_o of_o hilary_n the_o deacon_n idolatry_n usurp_v the_o honour_n hue_n to_o god_n and_o give_v it_o to_o the_o creature_n ephes_n creature_n idololatria_fw-la dei_fw-la honorisicentiam_fw-la usurpat_fw-la &_o vendieat_a creatuax_fw-la in_o cap._n 5._o ad_fw-la ephes_n this_o three_o may_v be_v evident_o prove_v from_o scripture_n for_o that_o the_o gentile_n be_v guilty_a of_o this_o heinous_a crime_n can_v be_v doubt_v by_o the_o christian_a now_o their_o idolatry_n do_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o st._n paul_n consist_v in_o this_o that_o they_o do_v homage_n to_o those_o being_n which_o by_o nature_n be_v not_o god_n but_o creature_n only_o second_o the_o first_o commandment_n in_o the_o affirmative_a 4.8_o affirmative_a gal._n 4.8_o command_v we_o to_o have_v the_o true_a jehovah_n for_o our_o god_n and_o consequent_o to_o give_v unto_o he_o that_o worship_n which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n when_o therefore_o in_o the_o negative_a it_o do_v enjoin_v we_o to_o have_v no_o either_o god_n beside_o he_o it_o must_v be_v deen_v to_o enjoin_v we_o also_o to_o give_v unto_o no_o other_o that_o worship_n which_o we_o owe_v unto_o he_o and_o by_o which_o we_o acknowledge_v he_o to_o be_v our_o god_n and_o even_o reason_n will_v instruct_v we_o that_o he_o who_o do_v ascribe_v god_n worship_n he_o give_v his_o glory_n to_o another_o and_o acknowledge_v another_o god_n as_o much_o as_o any_o man_n can_v do_v for_o we_o know_v no_o other_o way_n whereby_o we_o can_v acknowledge_v any_o thing_n to_o be_v a_o deity_n but_o by_o ascribe_v to_o it_o in_o our_o thought_n or_o action_n that_o worship_v which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o chap._n ii_o the_o content_n prop._n 1._o that_o if_o the_o sacrament_n continue_v after_o consecration_n to_o be_v bread_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n prop._n 2._o that_o if_o it_o real_o be_v doubtful_a whether_o it_o be_v bread_n or_o not_o she_o can_v be_v excuse_v from_o that_o crime_n prop._n 3._o that_o we_o have_v just_a cause_n to_o doubt_v of_o every_o particular_a host_n according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o it_o be_v not_o due_o consecrate_v and_o consequent_o that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v after_o consecration_n bread_n and_o wine_n prop._n 4._o that_o be_v it_o certain_a that_o every_o particular_a host_n contain_v christ_n real_a flesh_n and_o blood_n yet_o have_v we_o no_o just_a warrant_n upon_o that_o supposition_n to_o adore_v it_o with_o latria_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n express_o do_v enjoin_v we_o to_o give_v the_o worship_n of_o latria_n 5._o latria_n nullus_fw-la itaque_fw-la dubitandi_fw-la locus_fw-la relinquitur_fw-la quin_fw-la omnes_fw-la christi_fw-la sideles_fw-la latrix_fw-la cultum_fw-la qui_fw-la vero_fw-la deo_fw-la debetur_fw-la huie_fw-ge sanctissimo_fw-la sacramento_n in_o veneratione_n exhibeant_fw-la neque_fw-la enim_fw-la ideo_fw-la minus_fw-la est_fw-la adorandum_fw-la quod_fw-la fuer_v it_o a_o christo_fw-la domino_fw-la ut_fw-la sumatur_fw-la institutum_fw-la council_n trid._n sess_n 13._o c._n 5._o huic_fw-la sanctissimo_fw-la sacramento_n to_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n 1._o §_o 1._o as_o the_o trent_n council_n have_v define_v that_o be_v unto_o that_o very_o be_v which_o the_o priest_n put_v into_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o communicant_a and_o which_o he_o must_v swallow_v down_o into_o his_o stomach_n for_o that_o they_o call_v the_o holy_a sacrament_n hence_o present_o they_o tell_v we_o that_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v the_o less_o adore_v because_o our_o lord_n command_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v take_v this_o practice_n we_o conceive_v to_o be_v idolatry_n and_o to_o make_v good_a the_o charge_n we_o lie_v down_o these_o preparatory_a proposition_n we_o may_v be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n in_o pay_v divine_a homage_n to_o a_o creature_n 1._o prop._n 1._o though_o we_o conceive_v that_o creature_n to_o be_v god_n and_o sointend_v to_o give_v that_o worship_n only_o to_o god_n for_o if_o such_o a_o vain_a conception_n which_o we_o may_v have_v just_a reason_n to_o reject_v but_o can_v have_v no_o inevitable_a and_o certain_a reason_n to_o embrace_v can_v be_v sufficient_a to_o excuse_v this_o guilt_n then_o he_o who_o thus_o conceit_n touch_v the_o vile_a creature_n can_v just_o be_v charge_v with_o idolatry_n what_o ever_o act_n of_o worship_n he_o shall_v pay_v unto_o it_o admit_v we_o then_o the_o heathen_a jupiter_n the_o world_n the_o sun_n the_o earth_n and_o whatsoever_o else_o be_v worship_v by_o the_o ignorant_a and_o superstitious_a world_n as_o their_o supreme_a creator_n to_o be_v the_o vile_a devil_n pity_v we_o may_v their_o ignorance_n and_o folly_n but_o no_o man_n shall_v accuse_v they_o of_o idolatry_n for_o pay_v adotation_n to_o a_o subject_a which_o in_o their_o apprehension_n do_v so_o well_o deserve_v it_o 363._o p._n 363._o and_o what_o t._n g._n so_o often_o mention_n as_o a_o aggravation_n of_o that_o worship_n which_o pagan_n give_v to_o their_o inferior_a daemon_n viz._n that_o they_o esteem_v they_o to_o be_v god_n will_v be_v their_o best_a excuse_n and_o the_o extenuation_n of_o their_o guilt_n and_o those_o expression_n of_o the_o prophet_n which_o reproach_n the_o jew_n and_o heathen_n for_o say_v to_o a_o stock_n or_o stone_n thou_o be_v my_o god_n 4.12_o jet_n 2.27_o hos_fw-la 4.12_o if_o they_o be_v literal_o understand_v as_o many_o roman_a doctor_n do_v conceive_v they_o ought_v to_o be_v will_v be_v so_o far_o from_o prove_v that_o they_o be_v idolater_n that_o they_o will_v perfect_o excuse_v they_o from_o this_o crime_n because_o according_a to_o that_o supposition_n they_o worship_v only_o that_o which_o they_o conceive_v to_o be_v god_n the_o collyridion_n if_o we_o be_v well_o inform_v by_o baronius_n conceive_v the_o bless_a virgin_n be_v a_o real_a deity_n and_o yet_o st._n epiphanius_n call_v they_o a_o sect_n of_o idol-maker_n who_o offer_v their_o cake_n unto_o she_o b._n haer._n 79._o p._n 1061._o b._n the_o 69._o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d just_o mart._n apol_n 2._o p._n 69._o samaritan_n who_o worship_v simon_n magus_n the_o roman_n who_o if_o justin_n martyr_n may_v be_v credit_v 91_o p._n 91_o in_o honour_n of_o he_o do_v erect_v a_o satue_n with_o this_o inscription_n simoni_n deo_fw-la sancto_fw-la to_o simon_n the_o holy_a god_n and_o many_o other_o who_o as_o ibid._n as_o hic_fw-la sgitur_fw-la a_o multis_fw-la quasi_fw-la deus_fw-la glorificatus_fw-la est_fw-la iren_n
prayer_n to_o god_n and_o bring_v down_o blessing_n from_o god_n to_o we_o as_o he_o have_v learn_v in_o the_o school_n of_o plato_n lest_o any_o shall_v be_v tempt_v to_o infer_v from_o this_o that_o we_o shall_v pray_v unto_o these_o angel_n or_o that_o it_o be_v useful_a or_o needful_a so_o to_o do_v that_o so_o these_o bless_a spirit_n may_v be_v more_o propicious_a or_o helpful_a to_o we_o he_o do_v express_o say_v that_o 233._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 233._o to_o invoke_v they_o be_v no_o reasonable_a thing_n and_o this_o assertion_n he_o confirm_v by_o many_o argument_n 1._o it_o be_v absurd_a say_v he_o to_o call_v upon_o they_o because_o we_o want_v the_o knowledge_n of_o their_o nature_n and_o because_o it_o be_v above_o the_o reach_n of_o man._n and_o 2._o that_o if_o we_o can_v attain_v unto_o this_o knowledge_n that_o very_a knowledge_n which_o declare_v their_o nature_n and_o their_o offce_n to_o we_o will_v not_o permit_v we_o to_o pray_v to_o any_o other_o but_o unto_o god_n the_o lord_n of_o all_o who_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a for_o all_o by_o the_o son_n of_o god_n 3._o he_o reckon_v up_o in_o the_o apostle_n language_n all_o the_o kind_n and_o sort_n of_o prayer_n 233._o prayer_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la l._n 5._o p_o 233._o petition_n deprecation_n intercession_n and_o thanksgiving_n and_o then_o he_o add_v all_o these_o we_o must_v put_v up_o to_o god_n by_o that_o high_a priest_n who_o do_v transcend_v all_o angel_n and_o that_o this_o worship_n in_o any_o of_o the_o kind_n foremention_v be_v therefore_o not_o to_o be_v confer_v upon_o the_o angel_n because_o they_o be_v not_o to_o receive_v ibid._n receive_v ibid._n the_o worship_n due_a to_o god_n 4._o he_o add_v that_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o obtain_v the_o favour_n of_o the_o holy_a angel_n and_o the_o assistance_n of_o their_o prayer_n to_o labour_v to_o have_v god_n propitious_a and_o to_o procure_v his_o good_a will_n by_o godliness_n and_o virtue_n and_o by_o imitation_n of_o the_o angel_n piety_n and_o therefore_o not_o only_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o this_o objection_n 233._o lib._n 5._o p._n 233._o but_o elsewhere_o he_o tell_v we_o i_o must_v endeavour_v to_o approve_v ourselves_o to_o he_o who_o be_v one_o god_n over_o all_o and_o we_o must_v pray_v to_o he_o for_o mercy_n and_o that_o if_o celsus_n will_v yet_o have_v we_o to_o procure_v the_o good_a will_n of_o other_o after_o he_o who_o be_v god_n over_o all_o he_o must_v consider_v that_o as_o when_o the_o body_n be_v move_v the_o motion_n of_o the_o shadow_n thereof_o do_v follow_v so_o in_o like_a manner_n have_v god_n favourable_a unto_o we_o who_o be_v over_o all_o it_o follow_v that_o we_o shall_v have_v all_o his_o friend_n both_o angel_n and_o soul_n and_o spirit_n love_v unto_o we_o for_o they_o have_v a_o fellow_n feel_v with_o they_o that_o be_v think_v worthy_a to_o find_v favour_n from_o god_n to_o who_o they_o be_v not_o only_o favourable_a but_o they_o pray_v with_o they_o so_o as_o we_o may_v be_v bold_a to_o say_v that_o when_o man_n which_o with_o resolution_n propose_v unto_o themselves_o the_o best_a thing_n do_v pray_v unto_o god_n many_o thousand_o of_o the_o sacred_a power_n pray_v together_o with_o they_o unspeak_a to_o moreover_o when_o celsus_n affirm_v 420._o id._n l._n 8._o p._n 420._o that_o thanks_o be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o daemon_n and_o that_o our_o prayer_n and_o first_o fruit_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v to_o they_o 396._o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 8._o p._n 396._o that_o so_o we_o may_v obtain_v their_o presence_n with_o we_o and_o their_o favour_n to_o we_o who_o have_v obtain_v of_o god_n to_o be_v dispenser_n of_o inferior_a thing_n to_o this_o it_o be_v reply_v by_o origen_n 1._o that_o god_n have_v give_v no_o such_o government_n to_o daemon_n 400._o daemon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n ib._n p._n 400._o 2._o that_o first_o fruit_n must_v be_v offer_v to_o god_n alone_o who_o say_v let_v the_o earth_n bring_v forth_o fruit_n and_o to_o he_o to_o who_o the_o christian_n offer_v their_o first_o fruit_n they_o offer_v also_o their_o petition_n 3._o he_o do_v acknowledge_v that_o office_n which_o celsus_n have_v ascribe_v to_o wicked_a daemon_n do_v agree_v to_o angel_n who_o upon_o that_o account_n in_o scripture_n be_v style_v minister_a spirit_n and_o do_v encamp_v about_o god_n servant_n for_o their_o protection_n and_o deliverance_n but_o lest_o we_o shall_v infer_v with_o celsus_n that_o we_o must_v therefore_o pray_v unto_o they_o to_o be_v thus_o propicious_a he_o add_v we_o shall_v sufficient_o obtain_v their_o favour_n by_o imitation_n of_o their_o piety_n and_o invocation_n of_o that_o god_n to_o who_o they_o pray_v for_o thus_o he_o speak_v if_o we_o have_v a_o desire_n to_o a_o multitude_n who_o we_o will_v willing_o have_v to_o be_v favourable_a unto_o we_o 400._o l._n 8._o p._n 400._o we_o learn_v that_o thousand_o thousand_o stand_n by_o he_o and_o million_o of_o million_o minister_n unto_o he_o who_o behold_v they_o that_o imitate_v their_o piety_n towards_o god_n as_o if_o they_o be_v their_o kinsfolk_n and_o friend_n help_v forward_o their_o salvation_n and_o call_v upon_o god_n and_o pray_v sincere_o appear_v also_o and_o think_v that_o they_o ought_v to_o do_v service_n to_o they_o and_o as_o it_o be_v upon_o one_o watchword_n to_o set_v forth_o for_o the_o benefit_n and_o salvation_n of_o they_o that_o pray_v to_o god_n unto_o who_o they_o themselves_o also_o pray_v now_o to_o all_o these_o and_o all_o the_o argument_n that_o any_o man_n can_v bring_v t._n g._n return_v this_o answer_n 360._o §._o 3._o p._n 360._o viz._n that_o prayer_n imply_v either_o a_o total_a dependence_n upon_o god_n as_o the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a and_o so_o we_o ought_v to_o pray_v to_o god_n alone_o or_o a_o address_n unto_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n triumphant_a for_o the_o assistance_n of_o their_o prayer_n to_o he_o who_o only_o can_v give_v what_o we_o ask_v and_o in_o this_o sense_n it_o be_v still_o use_v by_o roman_a catholic_n when_o it_o be_v apply_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n when_o therefore_o origen_n deny_v that_o our_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v to_o any_o but_o to_o christ_n alone_o he_o speak_v of_o prayer_n in_o the_o first_o sense_n this_o be_v that_o catholic_n answer_n which_o upon_o all_o occasion_n he_o produce_v this_o origen_n and_o all_o the_o father_n mean_v very_o it_o be_v this_o and_o nothing_o else_o not_o that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o four_o first_o century_n when_o they_o so_o roundly_o and_o frequent_o assert_v that_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v unto_o god_n alone_o do_v ever_o thus_o distinguish_v or_o speak_v one_o title_n of_o this_o nature_n no_o simple_a creature_n as_o they_o be_v they_o absolute_o and_o without_o all_o distinction_n condemn_v what_o they_o daily_o practise_v and_o practise_v what_o they_o have_v condemn_v they_o all_o speak_v what_o be_v absolute_o false_a and_o mean_v only_o what_o be_v true_a so_o that_o no_o man_n can_v have_v imagine_v this_o to_o have_v be_v their_o meaning_n have_v not_o t._n g._n be_v their_o interpreter_n thus_o when_o origne_n express_o say_v 402._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 8._o p._n 402._o it_o be_v no_o reasonable_a thing_n to_o pray_v unto_o the_o angel_n 258._o angel_n l._n 5._o p._n 258._o we_o must_v only_o pray_v to_o god_n and_o to_o his_o son_n christ_n jesus_n he_o nu_v affirm_v what_o be_v a_o plain_a and_o absolute_a contradiction_n to_o the_o church_n doctrine_n but_o then_o his_o meaning_n must_v be_v orthodox_n and_o contradictory_n to_o what_o he_o do_v assert_v when_o he_o add_v almost_o by_o way_n of_o syllogism_n to_o who_o we_o christian_n offer_v our_o first_o fruit_n to_o he_o we_o offer_v up_o our_o prayer_n but_o to_o god_n alone_o we_o offer_v up_o our_o first_o fruit_n ergo_fw-la to_o he_o alone_o we_o offer_v up_o our_o prayer_n when_o he_o inform_v we_o that_o the_o christian_n be_v such_o as_o do_v not_o pray_v to_o angel_n but_o undivide_o and_o inseparable_o do_v worship_n god_n by_o jesus_n christ_n 382._o l._n 8._o p._n 382._o and_o come_v to_o god_n by_o christ_n alone_o and_o so_o as_o to_o transcend_v even_o those_o bless_a spirit_n which_o be_v call_v god_n he_o must_v apparent_o bely_v the_o christian_a world_n according_a to_o the_o plain_a interpretation_n of_o his_o word_n but_o his_o intention_n must_v be_v orthodox_n and_o yet_o 3._o he_o do_v not_o only_o deny_v the_o doctrine_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o time_n wherein_o he_o live_v but_o he_o destroy_v
the_o very_a ground_n and_o reason_n of_o that_o practice_n viz._n the_o benefit_n we_o may_v receive_v by_o put_v up_o request_n unto_o they_o and_o the_o concernment_n which_o lie_v upon_o we_o so_o to_o do_v in_o order_n to_o our_o preservation_n from_o all_o evil_a and_o the_o obtainment_n of_o the_o great_a blessing_n for_o he_o express_o tell_v we_o our_o care_n must_v be_v to_o get_v his_o favour_n who_o alone_o be_v god_n and_o that_o if_o celsus_n or_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n will_v have_v we_o to_o procure_v the_o favour_n of_o the_o inferior_a being_n he_o must_v know_v that_o all_o good_a spirit_n soul_n and_o angel_n if_o we_o do_v obtain_v god_n favour_n when_o we_o pray_v to_o he_o they_o need_v not_o be_v call_v upon_o for_o the_o assistance_n of_o their_o prayer_n for_o they_o will_v pray_v together_o with_o we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o be_v call_v upon_o so_o to_o do_v this_o he_o do_v frequent_o repeat_v and_o indeed_o it_o be_v the_o common_a language_n of_o those_o time_n he_o live_v in_o witness_v the_o like_a expression_n of_o arnobius_n 101._o arnobius_n in_o ho_o omne_fw-la quod_fw-la colendum_fw-la est_fw-la colimus_fw-la quod_fw-la adorari_fw-la convenit_fw-la adoramus_fw-la quod_fw-la obsequium_fw-la venerationis_fw-la exposcit_fw-la venerationibus_fw-la promeremur_fw-la cum_fw-la enim_fw-la divinitatis_fw-la ipsius_fw-la tencamus_fw-la caput_fw-la à_fw-la quo_fw-la ipsa_fw-la divinitas_fw-la divorum_fw-la omnium_fw-la quicunque_fw-la sunt_fw-la ducitur_fw-la supervacuum_fw-la putamus_fw-la personas_fw-la ire_n per_fw-la singulas_fw-la cum_fw-la &_o ipsi_fw-la qui_fw-la sint_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la habeant_fw-la nomina_fw-la nesciamus_fw-la &_o cujus_fw-la sint_fw-la praeterea_fw-la numeri_fw-la neque_fw-la liquidum_fw-la neque_fw-la comprehensum_fw-la neque_fw-la exploratum_fw-la habere_fw-la possimus_fw-la atque_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o terrestribus_fw-la regnis_fw-la necessitate_v nulla_fw-la compellimur_fw-la regalibus_fw-la in_o familiis_fw-la constitutos_fw-la nominatim_fw-la cum_fw-la principibus_fw-la adorare_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o regum_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la cultu_fw-la quicquid_fw-la illis_fw-la annexum_fw-la est_fw-la tacita_fw-la &_o se_fw-la sentit_fw-la honorificentia_fw-la comprehendi_fw-la non_fw-la alia_fw-la ratione_fw-la quicunque_fw-la hi_o dii_fw-la sunt_fw-la quos_fw-la esse_fw-la nobis_fw-la proponitis_fw-la fi_fw-la sint_fw-la progeny_n regius_fw-la &_o principali_fw-la oriuntur_fw-la è_fw-la capite_fw-la etiam_fw-la si_fw-la nullos_fw-la accipiant_fw-la nominatim_fw-la à_fw-la nobis_fw-la cultus_fw-la intelligunt_fw-la se_fw-la tamen_fw-la honorari_fw-la communiter_fw-la cum_fw-la svo_fw-la rege_fw-la atque_fw-la in_o illius_fw-la venerationibus_fw-la contineri_fw-la arnobius_n contra_fw-la gentes_fw-la lib._n 3_o p._n 101._o in_o worship_v the_o father_n and_o the_o lord_n of_o all_o thing_n we_o worship_v all_o thing_n that_o be_v to_o be_v worship_v we_o adore_v all_o thing_n that_o may_v convenient_o be_v adore_v we_o venerate_v all_o that_o call_v for_o veneration_n for_o hold_v to_o the_o head_n from_o whence_o these_o divi_z borrow_v their_o divinity_n we_o think_v it_o needless_a to_o go_v to_o every_o person_n see_v we_o know_v not_o what_o they_o be_v what_o name_v they_o have_v or_o of_o what_o order_n they_o may_v be_v and_o as_o in_o honour_v the_o king_n we_o honour_v all_o that_o do_v belong_v unto_o he_o so_o what_o ever_o god_n you_o do_v propose_v unto_o we_o if_o they_o be_v of_o this_o kingly_a progeny_n and_o do_v belong_v unto_o this_o head_n although_o they_o do_v receive_v no_o worship_n from_o we_o they_o understand_v that_o they_o be_v worship_v together_o with_o their_o king_n and_o be_v include_v in_o that_o veneration_n which_o we_o pay_v to_o he_o 4._o this_o answer_n render_v the_o discourse_n of_o origen_n impertinent_a and_o a_o perfect_a declination_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o he_o and_o celsus_n for_o celsus_n thus_o dispute_v no_o god_n nor_o any_o son_n of_o god_n can_v possible_o descend_v from_o heaven_n but_o if_o you_o do_v assert_v this_o of_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n these_o be_v no_o other_o than_o our_o daemon_n 23●_n orig._n l._n 7._o 5._o p._n 23●_n to_o this_o st._n origen_n return_v this_o answer_n 1._o that_o to_o deny_v that_o any_o god_n descend_v from_o heaven_n be_v to_o deny_v what_o be_v esteem_v a_o thing_n common_a by_o the_o heathen_a world_n 2._o that_o christian_n do_v indeed_o confess_v this_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o angel_n to_o come_v down_o from_o and_o to_o ascend_v to_o heaven_n and_o to_o offer_v up_o the_o prayer_n of_o man_n to_o god_n but_o yet_o say_v he_o we_o must_v not_o worship_v they_o as_o god_n for_o all_o our_o prayer_n must_v be_v direct_v to_o god_n and_o to_o his_o son_n christ_n jesus_n who_o be_v the_o live_a word_n and_o god_n which_o argument_n if_o it_o have_v any_o strength_n at_o all_o consist_v in_o this_o that_o whi●h_v you_o must_v not_o worship_n and_o adore_v as_o god_n you_o must_v not_o pray_v unto_o but_o angel_n you_o must_v not_o worship_n and_o adore_v as_o god_n ergo_fw-la angel_n you_o must_v not_o pray_v unto_o this_o be_v that_o father_n plea_n to_o which_o t._n g._n may_v answer_v in_o behalf_n of_o celsus_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o he_o apparent_o distinguish_v those_o angel_n both_o from_o god_n and_o from_o the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o do_v not_o contend_v that_o we_o shall_v pray_v unto_o they_o as_o to_o that_o god_n who_o be_v the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a but_o only_o as_o to_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n who_o he_o appoint_v to_o preside_v over_o such_o person_n family_n and_o country_n and_o therefore_o he_o be_v content_v only_o that_o it_o may_v be_v lawful_a to_o say_v unto_o they_o as_o do_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o st._n sebastian_n cerne_n familiam_fw-la tuam_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la behold_v thy_o family_n and_o to_o st._n gabriel_n preserve_v thy_o country_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d celsus_n object_n that_o if_o with_o god_n we_o do_v adore_v his_o son_n then_o may_v we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d venerate_v his_o minister_n to_o this_o st._n origen_n reply_v that_o if_o 386._o if_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la lib._n 8._o p._n 386._o celsus_n by_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n have_v understand_v gabriel_n and_o michael_n and_o other_o angel_n and_o archangel_n and_o have_v contend_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v venerate_v perpaps_o by_o purify_n of_o the_o word_n and_o of_o the_o action_n of_o the_o venerator_n we_o may_v say_v something_o of_o that_o matter_n i.e._n perhaps_o some_o action_n which_o in_o some_o sense_n may_v bear_v the_o name_n of_o veneration_n may_v be_v perform_v to_o those_o angel_n this_o t._n g._n think_v a_o great_a advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n and_o wonder_n that_o the_o doctor_n will_v produce_v this_o passage_n but_o i_o conceive_v it_o be_v the_o clear_a confutation_n of_o it_o that_o we_o can_v desire_v for_o have_v grant_v this_o and_o then_o restrain_v our_o petition_n unto_o god_n the_o father_n and_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n as_o he_o express_o do_v he_o most_o apparent_o demonstrate_v that_o prayer_n can_v be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o forementioned_a service_n he_o allow_v to_o saint_n 2._o in_o that_o he_o thus_o distinguish_v of_o veneration_n and_o never_o do_v distinguish_v in_o the_o like_a manner_n of_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n or_o of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id_fw-la est_fw-la of_o adoration_n and_o worship_n it_o follow_v that_o although_o he_o think_v some_o veneration_n may_v be_v allow_v to_o angel_n in_o some_o inferior_a kind_n yet_o no_o petition_n be_v to_o be_v put_v up_o unto_o they_o and_o that_o no_o worship_n and_o adoration_n shall_v be_v give_v unto_o they_o 3._o when_o origen_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o passage_n say_v ibid._n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n ibid._n we_o christian_n venerate_a with_o supplication_n only_a god_n and_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n and_o put_v up_o our_o petition_n to_o god_n by_o his_o only_a son_n if_o he_o do_v understand_v only_o such_o supplication_n as_o be_v make_v to_o he_o as_o to_o the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a he_o be_v as_o vain_a and_o impertinent_a as_o t._n g._n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o dr._n for_o celsus_n only_o do_v contend_v for_o such_o a_o worship_n and_o consequent_o for_o such_o address_n only_o as_o agree_v unto_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n 4._o origen_n plain_o do_v inform_v we_o that_o the_o veneration_n he_o allow_v to_o angel_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 416._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n l._n 8._o p._n 416._o to_o speak_v well_o of_o they_o and_o pronounce_v they_o bless_v and_o imitate_v to_o their_o virtue_n and_o what_o be_v this_o to_o supplication_n 3._o celsus_n object_n that_o daemon_n do_v belong_v to_o god_n and_o therefore_o must_v be_v pray_v unto_o and_o