Selected quad for the lemma: reason_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
reason_n church_n scripture_n tradition_n 3,753 5 9.2711 5 true
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A45678 The popish proselyte the grand fanatick. Or an antidote against the poyson of Captain Robert Everard's Epistle to the several congregations of the non-conformists Harrison, Joseph. 1684 (1684) Wing H900; ESTC R216554 55,354 168

There are 7 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

reason_n come_v to_o argue_v against_o the_o church_n infallibility_n then_o must_v it_o vassal-like_a submit_v not_o dispute_n not_o wait_v for_o a_o effectual_a conviction_n according_a to_o christ_n promise_n and_o procedure_v and_o when_o he_o be_v come_v he_o shall_v convince_v etc._n etc._n but_o yield_v forthwith_o to_o what_o the_o church_n say_v nay_o to_o whatsoever_o a_o ignorant_a english_a romish_n priest_n can_v have_v the_o confidence_n to_o say_v their_o church_n have_v sufficient_o propose_v or_o if_o reason_n offer_v to_o produce_v argument_n to_o prove_v the_o truth_n of_o christianity_n and_o evince_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n urge_v miracle_n universal-tradition_n conclude_v from_o topic_n internal_a external_a in_o other_o case_n cogent_a and_o demonstrative_a yet_o then_o reason_n be_v fallible_a subject_a to_o error_n a_o private_a spirit_n a_o fancy_n can_v make_v thing_n at_o best_a appear_v no_o more_o than_o probable_a jew_n turk_n and_o pagan_n may_v be_v as_o full_o persuade_v and_o upon_o as_o good_a rational_a ground_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o their_o religion_n as_o we_o can_v of_o we_o but_o now_o if_o reason_n will_v be_v corrupt_v become_v a_o advocate_n for_o rome_n her_o very_a sophism_n shall_v be_v cry_v up_o as_o sufficient_a ground_n for_o we_o to_o found_v our_o faith_n upon_o god_n will_v not_o be_v defective_a in_o necessary_n and_o therefore_o there_o must_v be_v a_o infallible_a visible_a judge_n christ_n be_v the_o only_a absolute_a independent_a head_n of_o the_o church_n but_o may_v and_o therefore_o have_v appoint_v a_o dependent_a head_n derive_v from_o he_o it_o be_v most_o rational_a in_o business_n of_o civil_a concernment_n to_o rely_v on_o a_o council_n of_o wise_a and_o learned_a man_n and_o therefore_o in_o thing_n spiritual_a which_o god_n usual_o hide_v from_o the_o wise_a and_o prudent_a and_o the_o natural_a man_n receive_v not_o we_o ought_v to_o rely_v on_o a_o council_n of_o popish_a prelate_n the_o eunuch_n can_v not_o understand_v the_o prophecy_n of_o isaiah_n till_o ministerial_o expound_v by_o philip_n the_o deacon_n and_o therefore_o can_v we_o understand_v that_o text_n though_o already_o expound_v no_o nor_o any_o other_o till_o authoritative_o interpret_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n the_o apostle_n elder_n and_o brethren_n when_o send_v to_o send_v out_o a_o temporary_a decree_n about_o thing_n indifferent_a make_v then_o by_o circumstance_n in_o some_o place_n antecedent_o necessary_a bind_v only_o in_o those_o place_n and_o press_v with_o a_o if_o you_o do_v these_o thing_n you_o do_v well_o and_o therefore_o the_o cardinal_n bishop_n and_o abbot_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o frame_v a_o everlasting_a law_n about_o point_n of_o doctrine_n make_v that_o necessary_a for_o all_o man_n which_o god_n never_o make_v necessary_a for_o any_o and_o press_v it_o under_o the_o dread_n of_o a_o anathema_n or_o pain_n of_o eternal_a damnation_n nay_o though_o god_n say_v to_o the_o law_n and_o to_o the_o testimony_n the_o law_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v perfect_a the_o scripture_n able_a not_o only_o to_o make_v wise_a to_o salvation_n but_o so_o far_o profitable_a that_o the_o man_n of_o god_n the_o pastor_n may_v be_v thorough_o furnish_v unto_o every_o good_a work_n lapid_n hominem_fw-la dei_fw-la vocat_fw-la doctorem_fw-la &_o episcopum_fw-la ut_fw-la dixi_fw-la ep._n 1._o c._n 6._o ver_fw-la 11._o cornel_n à_fw-fr lapid_n yet_o it_o reason_n can_v find_v any_o thing_n to_o say_v against_o the_o scripture_n be_v a_o rule_n it_o shall_v be_v hear_v the_o scripture_n then_o must_v not_o be_v a_o rule_n and_o why_o have_v god_n any_o where_o contradict_v himself_o and_o say_v it_o must_v not_o have_v he_o any_o where_o appoint_v another_o no_o but_o here_o be_v a_o first_o reason_n and_o a_o second_o reason_n and_o a_o three_o reason_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o it_o must_v be_v none_o and_o yet_o the_o sum_n of_o all_o no_o more_o than_o this_o some_o christian_n be_v dim-sighted_a some_o perverse_a many_o be_v carnal_a walk_v as_o man_n will_v not_o be_v rule_v and_o therefore_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o the_o rule_n ruler_n sure_a he_o will_v have_v say_v some_o people_n be_v contentious_a lawyer_n corrupt_a and_o differ_v in_o their_o opinion_n and_o therefore_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n be_v not_o what_o it_o be_v scilicet_fw-la the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n according_a to_o which_o controversy_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v decide_v and_o now_o the_o church_n before_o under_z and_o since_o the_o law_n will_v she_o will_z she_o must_v always_o have_v be_v and_o for_o ever_o be_v this_o rule_n when_o as_o yet_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o word_n be_v a_o rule_n both_o to_o adam_n and_o eve_n before_o the_o church_n have_v be_v it_o shall_v bruise_v thy_o head_n genes_n 3.15_o god_n say_v to_o abraham_n so_o shall_v thy_o seed_n be_v and_o he_o believe_v in_o the_o lord_n etc._n etc._n gen._n 15.5_o 6._o nor_o be_v it_o write_v for_o his_o sake_n alone_o but_o for_o we_o also_o rom._n 4.23_o 24._o you_o shall_v not_o add_v to_o the_o word_n i_o command_v you_o neither_o shall_v you_o diminish_v aught_o from_o it_o be_v give_v in_o charge_n to_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n deut._n 4.2_o and_o if_o any_o man_n say_v the_o apostle_n preach_v unto_o you_o any_o other_o gospel_n than_o that_o you_o have_v receive_v let_v he_o be_v accurse_v gal._n 1.9_o these_o be_v write_v that_o you_o may_v believe_v that_o jesus_n be_v the_o christ_n the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o that_o believe_v you_o may_v have_v life_n through_o his_o name_n joh._n 20.31_o nor_o yet_o be_v it_o the_o question_n whether_o the_o scripture_n accidental_o take_v or_o the_o word_n as_o write_v but_o whether_o the_o scripture_n take_v essential_o or_o the_o mind_n of_o god_n communicate_v at_o sundry_a time_n and_o in_o divers_a manner_n to_o and_o by_o the_o prophet_n preach_v by_o the_o apostle_n 1._o non_fw-la enim_fw-la per_fw-la alios_fw-la dispositionem_fw-la salutis_fw-la cognovimus_fw-la quàm_fw-la per_fw-la eos_fw-la per_fw-la quos_fw-la evangelium_fw-la pervenit_fw-la ad_fw-la nos_fw-la quod_fw-la quidem_fw-la tunc_fw-la praeconiaverunt_fw-la postremò_fw-la verò_fw-la per_fw-la dei_fw-la voluntatem_fw-la in_o scripture_n nobis_fw-la tradiderunt_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la &_o columnam_fw-la fidei_fw-la nostrae_fw-la futurum_fw-la nobis_fw-la iren._n i._n 3._o c._n 1._o and_o now_o commit_v and_o convey_v down_o to_o we_o by_o sacred_a writing_n always_o have_v be_v &_o aught_o to_o be_v own_v for_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n or_o whether_o indeed_o because_o it_o seem_v you_o long_o to_o have_v the_o question_n state_v with_o that_o advantage_n even_o in_o abraham_n and_o the_o apostle_n time_n other_o as_o well_o as_o sarah_n gen._n 21.10_o and_o the_o beraean_n act._n 17.11_o may_v not_o have_v urge_v demand_v and_o without_o the_o just_a control_n of_o any_o then_o visible_a authority_n have_v believe_v and_o act_v according_a to_o the_o prescript_n of_o that_o rule_n your_o own_o instance_n page_n 53._o of_o extraordinary_a action_n do_v and_o command_v give_v by_o god_n direction_n by_o the_o mouth_n of_o several_a particular_a prophet_n submit_v to_o as_o you_o say_v without_o further_a enquiry_n do_v plain_o evince_v as_o much_o and_o also_o intimate_v that_o the_o will_n or_o word_n of_o god_n which_o way_n soever_o it_o be_v make_v know_v whether_o immediate_o or_o mediate_o whether_o by_o prophecy_n tradition_n or_o write_n be_v and_o always_o have_v be_v the_o supreme_a rule_n both_o of_o faith_n and_o practice_n and_o its_o adequation_n as_o to_o matter_n of_o faith_n as_o now_o contain_v in_o and_o express_v by_o the_o scripture_n 20._o sure_o foot_v for_o christianity_n page_n 18._o 20._o shall_v be_v after_o clear_v however_o the_o church_n as_o your_o own_o j._n s._n well_o observe_v be_v a_o congregation_n of_o the_o faithful_a must_v needs_o presuppose_v the_o notion_n of_o faithful_a faithful_a the_o notion_n of_o faith_n i'faith_o of_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n a_o evident_a argument_n that_o the_o church_n be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v regulate_v in_o believe_v and_o consequent_o she_o herself_o can_v be_v the_o rule_n of_o belief_n nor_o any_o more_o save_v as_o the_o same_o man_n say_v of_o father_n doctor_n and_o great_a scholar_n and_o may_v as_o well_o have_v say_v the_o same_o of_o tradition_n too_o a_o mean_n to_o bring_v other_o to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o it_o but_o second_o the_o man_n will_v needs_o seat_v authority_n in_o the_o holy_a catholic_n church_n notwithstanding_o that_o authority_n supreme_a magisterial_a formal_o as_o well_o as_o radical_o be_v seat_v in_o christ_n all_o authority_n be_v give_v to_o i_o matt._n 28.18_o nor_o be_v the_o church_n the_o subject_n but_o the_o object_n of_o the_o ministerial_a power_n he_o give_v some_o apostle_n some_o pastor_n for_o the_o perfect_a of_o the_o saint_n
scripture_n be_v not_o the_o judge_n rule_n and_o guide_n and_o therefore_o the_o church_n be_v be_v of_o any_o force_n for_o never_o to_o take_v notice_n that_o it_o find_v a_o affirmative_a conclusion_n upon_o negative_a premise_n it_o suppose_v that_o some_o presbyterian_o independent_o etc._n etc._n shall_v hold_v the_o spirit_n alone_o some_o reason_n some_o the_o scripture_n each_o exclusive_a of_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v the_o rule_n judge_n and_o guide_v of_o faith_n whenas_o all_o they_o joint_o in_o this_o business_n join_v all_o these_o together_o and_o look_v up_o unto_o god_n according_a to_o his_o command_n and_o promise_n for_o his_o holy_a spirit_n in_o the_o church_n ministry_n thorough_o to_o direct_v their_o understanding_n in_o judge_v of_o thing_n according_a to_o the_o write_a rule_n four_o the_o man_n never_o perceive_v that_o his_o own_o vain_a ratiocination_n and_o needless_a concession_n be_v the_o sole_a ground_n that_o be_v give_v for_o he_o to_o bottom_v his_o belief_n upon_o a_o strong_a fancy_n he_o have_v and_o need_v on_o for_o his_o faith_n be_v no_o strong_a to_o evince_v this_o i_o shall_v instance_n in_o these_o six_o position_n lay_v down_o and_o suppose_v as_o the_o basis_n of_o his_o whole_a discourse_n first_o faith_n be_v a_o infallible_a assent_n of_o the_o understanding_n submit_v itself_o obedient_o to_o believe_v the_o revelation_n of_o god_n second_o there_o must_v be_v some_o mean_v appoint_v of_o god_n by_o which_o we_o may_v know_v this_o one_o true_a faith_n from_o all_o false_a opinion_n three_o these_o mean_n must_v be_v infallible_a four_o the_o understanding_n must_v submit_v to_o these_o mean_n under_o pain_n of_o damnation_n five_o two_o man_n of_o two_o different_a faith_n or_o belief_n can_v be_v save_v six_o ignorant_a people_n by_o such_o reasonable_a diligence_n as_o be_v very_o tolerable_a to_o humane_a frailty_n and_o yet_o possible_a for_o they_o may_v come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n wise_o do_v to_o leave_v out_o certain_a of_o these_o mean_n and_o now_o if_o you_o ask_v what_o foundation_n he_o have_v whereupon_o to_o ground_v his_o belief_n of_o these_o assertion_n he_o will_v tell_v you_o i_o gather_v they_o from_o the_o true_a interpretation_n of_o certain_a text_n of_o scripture_n 16._o pag._n 16._o and_o if_o you_o ask_v further_o how_o he_o know_v that_o interpretation_n to_o be_v true_a have_v he_o divine_a revelation_n for_o it_o according_a to_o the_o tenor_n of_o his_o own_o first_o position_n have_v he_o the_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o the_o father_n for_o it_o or_o do_v he_o certain_o know_v beyond_o all_o possibility_n of_o be_v mistake_v that_o the_o church_n in_o all_o age_n have_v and_o the_o present_a church_n now_o do_v give_v that_o interpretation_n according_o as_o it_o be_v decree_v by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n no_o but_o from_o hence_o i_o think_v say_v he_o it_o do_v very_o natural_o follow_v first_o 17._o 17._o second_o and_o three_o etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o that_o it_o may_v appear_v he_o only_o say_v can_v not_o possible_o think_v any_o such_o a_o thing_n observe_v from_o that_o exhortation_n heb._n 10.23_o let_v we_o hold_v fast_o the_o profession_n of_o our_o hope_n so_o in_o their_o own_o authentic_a translation_n undecline_v do_v he_o infer_v faith_n be_v a_o infallible_a assent_n of_o our_o understanding_n and_o because_o the_o latter_a part_n of_o the_o verse_n for_o he_o be_v faithful_a that_o have_v promise_v found_v the_o confidence_n there_o speak_v of_o upon_o the_o promise_n of_o grace_n and_o the_o former_a verse_n fix_v faith_n with_o its_o full_a assurance_n upon_o the_o high_a priest_n jesus_n alone_o the_o man_n sly_o pass_v over_o both_o and_o leave_v the_o other_o part_n of_o his_o proposition_n obedient_o submit_v etc._n etc._n destitute_a of_o any_o proof_n from_o 2_o cor._n 10.5_o bring_v into_o captivity_n every_o thought_n to_o the_o obedience_n of_o christ_n he_o infer_v the_o understanding_n must_v submit_v not_o dispute_v all_o be_v damn_v that_o disobey_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n and_o add_v withal_o that_o save_a faith_n be_v seat_v in_o the_o understanding_n as_o if_o paul_n have_v be_v mistake_v when_o he_o say_v with_o the_o heart_n man_n believe_v unto_o righteousness_n rom._n 10.10_o or_o as_o if_o he_o himself_o know_v not_o what_o he_o have_v do_v in_o put_v obedient_o submit_v into_o the_o definition_n of_o faith_n since_o all_o conclude_v obedience_n and_o disobedience_n to_o be_v subject_v in_o the_o will_n from_o eph._n 4.5_o there_o be_v but_o one_o faith_n respect_n have_v to_o the_o personal_a object_n in_o who_o the_o lord_n jesus_n he_o conclude_v that_o two_o man_n of_o differ_v faith_n dogmatical_a or_o that_o believe_v two_o contrary_a opinion_n can_v be_v save_v nor_o be_v he_o ashamed_a from_o isaiah_n 35.8_o plain_o point_v at_o christ_n the_o new_a and_o live_a way_n first_o to_o take_v out_o and_o the_o unclean_a shall_v not_o pass_v over_o it_o as_o incoherent_a because_o their_o unholy_a mother_n admit_v of_o such_o for_o her_o child_n and_o then_o infer_v that_o ignorant_a people_n by_o reasonable_a diligence_n may_v come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o those_o mean_n about_o which_o yet_o their_o learned_a man_n to_o this_o very_a day_n can_v never_o be_v agree_v nor_o can_v he_o himself_o tell_v when_o it_o come_v to_o the_o pinch_n how_o those_o mean_n shall_v be_v certain_o manifest_a save_v by_o miracle_n of_o which_o we_o ignorant_a folk_n may_v often_o hear_v but_o never_o come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o however_o that_o i_o most_o admire_v at_o be_v that_o the_o man_n design_v to_o prove_v that_o true_a acceptable_a faith_n consist_v in_o believe_v as_o the_o church_n believe_v a_o believe_a that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v infallible_a shall_v quote_v heb._n 11.6_o that_o hold_v out_o the_o faith_n without_o which_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o please_v god_n to_o be_v a_o believe_v not_o that_o the_o church_n but_o that_o god_n himself_o be_v so_o he_o that_o come_v to_o god_n must_v believe_v that_o he_o be_v etc._n etc._n and_o further_o that_o he_o shall_v stand_v hafle_v and_o pafle_v and_o prove_v by_o half_n there_o must_v be_v some_o mean_v appoint_v by_o god_n by_o which_o man_n may_v know_v etc._n etc._n those_o mean_n must_v be_v infallible_a the_o understanding_n must_v submit_v to_o those_o mean_n under_o pain_n of_o damnation_n when_o the_o very_a text_n quote_v mark_n 16.16_o show_v plain_o that_o there_o be_v mean_n infallible_a mean_n and_o which_o be_v the_o mean_v appoint_v whereby_o true_a faith_n both_o be_v beget_v and_o may_v be_v know_v from_o all_o false_a opinion_n and_o unto_o which_o all_o that_o hearty_o submit_v shall_v be_v save_v and_o those_o that_o do_v not_o shall_v be_v damn_v and_o lest_o you_o shall_v mistake_v in_o read_v the_o mean_n be_v the_o word_n of_o truth_n the_o gospel_n preach_v though_o by_o the_o mouth_n of_o never_o so_o weak_a a_o minister_n go_v into_o all_o the_o world_n and_o preach_v the_o gospel_n unto_o every_o creature_n he_o that_o believe_v and_o be_v baptise_a shall_v be_v save_v and_o he_o that_o believe_v not_o shall_v be_v damn_v argumentum_fw-la a_o genere_fw-la ad_fw-la speciem_fw-la affirmat_fw-la non_fw-la valet_fw-la argumentum_fw-la nor_o yet_o be_v it_o unworthy_a of_o remark_n 1._o that_o mean_v in_o general_n be_v here_o all_o along_o find_v in_o the_o premise_n and_o authority_n in_o special_a put_v after_o into_o the_o conclusion_n there_o must_v be_v there_o be_v a_o infallible_a mean_n and_o therefore_o there_o be_v there_o must_v be_v a_o infallible_a authority_n and_o 2._o that_o the_o man_n serious_o endeavour_v to_o found_v the_o very_a foundation_n of_o his_o own_o faith_n upon_o scripture_n dark_a scripture_n private_o interpret_v howbeit_o the_o main_a scope_n of_o his_o book_n be_v to_o evince_v that_o faith_n true_a faith_n neither_o first_o nor_o last_o can_v or_o aught_o to_o be_v found_v thereupon_o that_o self-interest_n have_v a_o hand_n in_o the_o captain_n overturning_a seem_v more_o than_o probable_a 4._o pag._n 4._o because_o first_o the_o captain_n in_o the_o late_a war_n as_o his_o book_n relate_v have_v run_v through_o the_o several_a form_n of_o religion_n presbyterian_a independent_a anabaptist_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o never_o that_o we_o read_v of_o lose_v his_o preferment_n upon_o any_o turn_v nor_o miss_v of_o it_o for_o want_v of_o timely_a turn_n and_o since_o so_o the_o man_n may_v easy_o foresee_v that_o such_o a_o notorious_a juggler_n be_v never_o like_a to_o be_v trust_v at_o the_o king_n court_n best_o for_o he_o now_o at_o last_o to_o turn_v papist_n do_v the_o jesuit_n some_o signal_n service_n declare_v against_o his_o old_a friend_n and_o their_o old_a enemy_n the_o nonconformist_n and_o perhaps_o by_o that_o wile_n he_o may_v in_o the_o
as_o they_o shall_v ever_o offer_v to_o rebel_v non_fw-la licet_fw-la christianis_fw-la etc._n etc._n say_v bellarmine_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o christian_n to_o tolerate_v a_o king_n that_o be_v a_o heretic_n if_o he_o endeavour_v ●o_o draw_v his_o subject_n into_o heresy_n and_o if_o you_o will_v know_v how_o christian_a papist_n in_o england_n and_o some_o part_n of_o germany_n can_v be_v excuse_v from_o neglect_n of_o duty_n dominicus_n bannes_n will_v ●ell_v you_o because_o that_o general_o they_o have_v not_o power_n to_o make_v such_o war_n against_o prince_n and_o great_a danger_n be_v imminent_a over_o they_o however_o a_o apology_n may_v easy_o be_v frame_v out_o of_o bellarmine_n in_o the_o place_n forequote_v quod_fw-la si_fw-la christiani_n olim_fw-la non_fw-la deposuerunt_fw-la neronem_fw-la &_o dioclesianum_fw-la &_o julianum_fw-la apostatam_fw-la &_o valentem_fw-la arianum_n &_o simile_n fuit_fw-la quia_fw-la deerant_fw-la vires_fw-la temporales_fw-la christianis_fw-la if_o christian_n in_o former_a time_n do_v not_o depose_v nero_n dioclesian_n julian_n the_o apostate_n and_o valens_n the_o arian_n and_o such_o like_a it_o be_v because_o temporal_a force_n be_v want_v unto_o christian_n nor_o may_v it_o with_o any_o colour_n of_o justice_n be_v plead_v that_o bellarmine_n bannes_n mariana_n suarez_n etc._n etc._n be_v but_o private_a doctor_n unless_o it_o be_v first_o make_v appear_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n may_v and_o have_v legal_o reverse_v the_o foresay_a lateran_n decree_n and_o anathematise_v the_o person_n and_o opinion_n of_o these_o and_o such_o like_a as_o heretical_a however_o captain_n robert_n carry_v it_o throughout_o like_o a_o man_n that_o be_v indeed_o a_o heretic_n for_o while_o a_o protestant_n he_o do_v act_n as_o a_o rebellious_a traitor_n and_o now_o be_v turn_v papist_n will_n needs_o profess_v himself_o a_o loyal_a subject_n both_o in_o their_o several_a time_n apparent_o against_o his_o own_o principle_n the_o six_o reason_n against_o the_o scripture_n be_v a_o rule_n examine_v the_o six_o reason_n i_o meet_v with_o be_v whatsoever_o be_v a_o sole_a and_o sufficient_a rule_n 42._o pag._n 42._o must_v be_v plain_a and_o clear_a in_o all_o necessary_a point_n at_o least_o which_o relate_v unto_o faith_n or_o the_o mean_n by_o which_o salvation_n be_v to_o be_v have_v which_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o and_o above_o all_o thing_n it_o must_v not_o contradict_v itself_o which_o the_o scripture_n seem_v to_o do_v to_o prove_v this_o i_o shall_v give_v some_o few_o instance_n which_o i_o think_v can_v never_o be_v infringe_v the_o man_n come_v here_o home_o to_o the_o point_n wave_v his_o impertinent_a sophistical_a jumble_v in_o of_o judge_n and_o guide_n and_o most_o industrious_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v from_o the_o scripture_n deficiency_n and_o obscurity_n that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o sole_a sufficient_a rule_n nor_o be_v it_o any_o marvel_n that_o we_o find_v he_o now_o so_o serious_a and_o earnest_a for_o if_o this_o argument_n fail_v all_o his_o other_o seven_o antiscriptural_a reason_n come_v to_o nothing_o with_o it_o for_o though_o presbyterian_o independent_o anabaptist_n etc._n etc._n shall_v disagree_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n raise_v different_a sense_n to_o serve_v their_o several_a interest_n can_v all_o of_o they_o understand_v and_o some_o of_o they_o do_v desperate_o wrest_v several_a place_n to_o their_o own_o destruction_n the_o scripture_n suppose_v plain_a and_o clear_a in_o all_o necessary_a point_n the_o fault_n and_o folly_n be_v their_o own_o the_o scripture_n all_o this_o notwithstanding_o may_v and_o do_v still_o remain_v as_o it_o be_v a_o sole_a sufficient_a rule_n or_o if_o some_o book_n be_v lose_v all_o copy_n corrupt_v and_o several_a text_n mistranslate_v yet_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o purpose_n while_o we_o can_v and_o shall_v evince_v that_o the_o book_n we_o at_o present_a have_v be_v so_o entire_a the_o copy_n so_o pure_a and_o the_o translation_n so_o true_a that_o all_o point_n necessary_a at_o least_o be_v therein_o plain_a and_o clear_a nor_o will_v it_o avail_v to_o tell_v we_o of_o the_o primitive_a christian_n consult_v with_o the_o apostle_n and_o that_o it_o be_v all_o one_o to_o judge_v by_o our_o own_o reason_n and_o by_o a_o law_n to_o be_v interpret_v by_o our_o own_o reason_n for_o we_o may_v suppose_v the_o apostle_n with_o all_o their_o authority_n now_o in_o be_v go_v and_o consult_v with_o they_o or_o in_o their_o absence_n with_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o several_a church_n as_o the_o great_a moderator_n of_o all_o controversy_n and_o yet_o the_o scripture_n if_o plain_a and_o clear_a still_o remain_v a_o sole_a sufficient_a rule_n according_a to_o which_o the_o controversy_n may_v and_o ought_v to_o be_v decide_v nor_o need_v we_o in_o this_o case_n be_v trouble_v with_o interpret_n of_o scripture_n according_a to_o our_o own_o reason_n since_o it_o be_v suppose_v and_o shall_v be_v prove_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v so_o clear_a in_o all_o necessary_a point_n that_o it_o need_v no_o interpretation_n though_o yet_o you_o may_v take_v notice_n by_o the_o way_n that_o to_o judge_v by_o our_o own_o reason_n as_o the_o only_a rule_n be_v not_o the_o same_o with_o judge_v by_o a_o law_n to_o be_v interpret_v by_o our_o own_o reason_n as_o one_o special_a mean_n your_o argument_n will_v perhaps_o strike_v at_o that_o but_o this_o be_v all_o that_o in_o any_o case_n we_o practice_v and_o so_o do_v because_o christ_n bid_v we_o search_v the_o scripture_n and_o the_o apostle_n add_v judge_v you_o what_o i_o say_v compare_v spiritual_a thing_n with_o spiritual_a however_o since_o the_o faith_n or_o mean_v by_o which_o salvation_n be_v to_o be_v have_v be_v a_o believe_v on_o christ_n the_o foundation_n as_o have_v be_v say_v not_o a_o believe_v of_o just_a so_o many_o as_o you_o or_o other_o be_v please_v to_o call_v fundamental_a point_n if_o the_o scripture_n be_v plain_a and_o clear_a as_o without_o peradventure_o they_o be_v in_o their_o testify_v of_o he_o according_a to_o joh._n 5.40_o they_o be_v plain_a and_o clear_a in_o what_o necessary_o relate_v to_o faith_n or_o the_o mean_n by_o which_o salvation_n be_v to_o be_v have_v according_a to_o john_n 20.31_o and_o consequent_o what_o ever_o become_v of_o all_o the_o other_o whether_o necessary_a or_o unnecessary_a point_n may_v be_v a_o sole_a sufficient_a rule_n according_a to_o the_o tendency_n of_o this_o your_o present_a discourse_n the_o seem_a contradiction_n shall_v after_o your_o infringible_a instance_n come_v now_o to_o be_v discuss_v 42._o pag._n 42._o that_o they_o be_v not_o plain_a and_o clear_a as_o aforesaid_a consider_v all_o christian_n general_o except_o some_o few_o do_v agree_v that_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v necessary_a in_o order_n to_o salvation_n now_o as_o to_o these_o the_o scripture_n be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v clear_a that_o they_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o denominate_v what_o a_o sacrament_n be_v how_o many_o christ_n ordain_v or_o whether_o there_o be_v any_o sacrament_n or_o not_o first_o all_o christian_n may_v agree_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v necessary_a and_o yet_o they_o not_o be_v so_o for_o it_o be_v christ_n saying_n that_o they_o be_v not_o at_o all_o the_o christian_n agree_v that_o can_v make_v they_o necessary_a do_v not_o all_o christian_n general_o agree_v for_o six_o hundred_o year_n together_o that_o the_o eucharist_n be_v necessary_a for_o infant_n and_o yet_o now_o the_o church_n conclude_v otherwise_o but_o 2._o it_o be_v here_o grant_v that_o some_o christian_n deny_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o be_v necessary_a and_o if_o some_o may_v be_v christian_n and_o yet_o deny_v the_o necessity_n of_o sacrament_n it_o be_v a_o argument_n sufficient_a that_o they_o be_v not_o necessary_a nor_o indeed_o do_v the_o man_n assert_v that_o sacrament_n be_v simple_o necessary_a but_o qualify_v it_o with_o in_o order_n to_o salvation_n and_o limit_n it_o to_o sacrament_n of_o the_o gospel_n perhaps_o he_o may_v think_v there_o be_v two_o way_n whereby_o god_n bring_v his_o people_n to_o salvation_n one_o ordinary_a with_o and_o the_o other_o extraordinary_a without_o sacrament_n nor_o shall_v i_o say_v more_o of_o that_o but_o tell_v he_o that_o if_o woman_n and_o male_a child_n under_o the_o law_n may_v much_o more_o the_o catechumeni_fw-la and_o infant_n under_o the_o gospel_n may_v be_v save_v by_o grace_n without_o sacrament_n to_o confer_v or_o convey_v it_o 3._o though_o it_o be_v not_o the_o scripture_n mode_n to_o observe_v logic_n rule_v in_o frame_v definition_n nor_o always_o arithmetical_a in_o make_v up_o of_o account_n yet_o be_v the_o nature_n and_o end_n of_o these_o ordinance_n we_o call_v sacrament_n describe_v in_o scripture_n so_o far_o as_o be_v meet_v for_o we_o to_o know_v the_o number_n number_v baptism_n and_o the_o lords-supper_n say_v
property_n of_o a_o rule_n and_o yet_o 3._o the_o church_n diffusive_a be_v not_o capable_a either_o of_o explain_v or_o of_o be_v demand_v to_o explain_v its_o own_o sense_n council_n or_o church_n representative_a there_o have_v be_v none_o at_o your_o own_o account_n for_o a_o whole_a century_n of_o year_n nor_o likely_a to_o be_v any_o more_o and_o it_o can_v be_v imagine_v that_o by_o church_n you_o shall_v mean_v the_o pope_n because_o other_o reason_n at_o present_a omit_v you_o refer_v to_o a_o church_n always_o in_o be_v however_o 4._o frustra_fw-la est_fw-la potentia_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la reducitur_fw-la in_o actum_fw-la what_o be_v we_o near_o have_v or_o the_o church_n near_o be_v a_o rule_n of_o faith_n for_o her_o be_v capable_a of_o do_v that_o which_o by_o no_o mean_n she_o will_v be_v get_v to_o do_v often_o have_v she_o be_v demand_v i_o now_o demand_v and_o desire_v you_o to_o demand_v she_o to_o explain_v herself_o touch_v the_o point_n foremention_v as_o also_o touch_v those_o after_o instance_a in_o the_o close_a of_o my_o answer_n to_o the_o three_o querie_n and_o if_o she_o do_v explain_v her_o sense_n as_o to_o those_o point_n we_o shall_v conclude_v that_o hitherto_o she_o have_v not_o be_v a_o sole_a sufficient_a rule_n for_o want_v of_o that_o explanation_n if_o she_o do_v not_o at_o the_o best_a she_o will_v be_v but_o remote_o capable_a of_o be_v hereafter_o and_o at_o present_a be_v no_o rule_n of_o faith_n nor_o yet_o indeed_o be_v she_o capable_a at_o this_o account_n of_o be_v hereafter_o or_o rather_o will_v you_o speak_v proper_o make_v such_o a_o rule_n because_o disenable_v by_o the_o first_o general_a council_n at_o ephesus_n from_o ever_o make_v tanquam_fw-la de_fw-fr fide_fw-la any_o such_o a_o explanation_n 7._o can._n 7._o that_o there_o be_v in_o the_o scripture_n several_a place_n which_o to_o common_a reason_n seem_v contradiction_n and_o consequent_o some_o part_n of_o scripture_n seem_v untrue_a be_v easy_o prove_v and_o i_o shall_v here_o give_v you_o some_o few_o plain_a instance_n for_o example_n to_o which_o many_o more_o may_v be_v add_v first_o it_o be_v well_o you_o distinguish_v betwixt_o private_a and_o common_a reason_n for_o though_o you_o exempt_v each_o man_n private_a spirit_n or_o reason_n from_o meddle_v about_o interpret_n of_o scripture_n you_o will_v sure_o admit_v common_a reason_n to_o be_v of_o special_a use_n unless_o you_o will_v say_v that_o reason_n ought_v to_o be_v abuse_v for_o find_v out_o of_o contradiction_n in_o scripture_n but_o must_v by_o no_o mean_n be_v employ_v either_o in_o unfolding_a or_o reconcile_n the_o difficult_a place_n that_o occur_v therein_o second_o either_o reason_n can_v judge_v of_o thing_n and_o proposition_n when_o contradictory_n or_o not_o if_o not_o wherefore_o do_v you_o tell_v story_n of_o several_a place_n seem_v to_o common_a reason_n to_o contradict_v one_o another_o so_o seem_v that_o thereupon_o scripture_n must_v be_v reject_v from_o be_v a_o rule_n and_o if_o reason_n can_v thus_o judge_v wherefore_o shall_v not_o your_o church_n be_v reject_v from_o be_v a_o rule_n as_o well_o as_o scripture_n since_o her_o doctrine_n seem_v to_o reason_n and_o often_o to_o common_a sense_n too_o to_o be_v more_o contradictory_n than_o any_o of_o these_o text_n a_o council_n be_v above_o the_o pope_n a_o council_n be_v not_o above_o the_o pope_n hoc_fw-la this_o scilicet_fw-la bread_n or_o nothing_o be_v the_o body_n be_v real_o christ_n body_n at_o london_n at_o rome_n on_o earth_n in_o heaven_n the_o very_a same_o moment_n every_o man_n be_v a_o liar_n the_o pope_n as_o pope_n be_v a_o man_n unless_o he_o be_v either_o accidens_fw-la or_o animal_n irrationale_fw-la and_o yet_o the_o pope_n as_o pope_n be_v no_o liar_n in_o no_o possibility_n to_o be_v mistake_n nay_o further_o these_o very_a place_n you_o say_v seem_v contradictory_n your_o church_n teach_v to_o be_v certain_o true_a in_o her_o authoritative_a approval_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o scripture_n so_o that_o if_o upon_o this_o account_n you_o will_v reject_v scripture_n upon_o the_o same_o account_v you_o may_v must_v reject_v the_o church_n from_o be_v a_o rule_n and_o yet_o rather_o the_o church_n than_o the_o scripture_n for_o the_o scripture_n bare_o present_v we_o with_o the_o place_n your_o church_n pass_v sentence_n say_v they_o be_v all_o true_a unless_o you_o will_v tell_v we_o your_o church_n say_v can_v make_v contradiction_n true_a at_o once_o and_o warrant_v you_o to_o believe_v it_o howbeit_o god_n say_v can_v do_v so_o three_o have_v you_o have_v many_o more_o plain_a instance_n it_o be_v not_o like_o you_o will_v have_v trouble_v the_o reader_n with_o these_o your_o task_n be_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o plain_a and_o clear_a in_o all_o necessary_a point_n and_o be_v it_o not_o then_o for_o want_v of_o some_o more_o pertinent_a that_o you_o present_v we_o with_o doubt_n and_o difficulty_n about_o chronology_n and_o genealogy_n concern_v which_o the_o apostle_n forbid_v we_o to_o dispute_v you_o have_v better_o have_v say_v with_o the_o great_a master_n of_o reason_n grotius_n afflatu_fw-la dei_fw-la locutos_fw-la quae_fw-la locuti_fw-la sunt_fw-la scripsisse_fw-la quae_fw-la scribere_fw-la jussi_fw-la sunt_fw-la prophetas_fw-la de_fw-la scriptis_fw-la historicis_fw-la &_o moralibus_fw-la hebraeorum_n sententiis_fw-la aliud_fw-la puto_fw-la in_o 2_o king_n chap._n 8._o verse_n 26._o you_o read_v thus_o 45._o pag._n 45._o twenty_o two_o year_n old_a be_v ahaziah_n when_o he_o begin_v to_o reign_v and_o he_o reign_v one_o year_n in_o jerusalem_n and_o his_o mother_n name_n be_v athaliah_n the_o daughter_n of_o omri_n but_o 2_o chron._n chap._n 22._o verse_n 2._o you_o will_v read_v thus_o forty_o and_o two_o year_n old_a be_v ahaziah_n when_o he_o begin_v to_o reign_v and_o he_o reign_v one_o year_n in_o jerusalem_n his_o mother_n name_n be_v athaliah_n the_o daughter_n of_o omri_n now_o against_o the_o infallibility_n of_o scripture_n reason_n conceive_v herself_o to_o have_v this_o infallible_a demonstration_n viz._n no_o one_o who_o speak_v two_o thing_n the_o one_o contrary_a to_o the_o other_o can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v infallible_a in_o speak_v but_o to_o affirm_v of_o the_o same_o person_n that_o he_o begin_v to_o reign_v when_o he_o be_v two_o and_o twenty_o year_n old_a and_o that_o he_o be_v two_o and_o forty_o year_n old_a when_o he_o begin_v to_o reign_v be_v to_o speak_v two_o thing_n the_o one_o contrary_a to_o the_o other_o therefore_o say_v reason_n the_o scripture_n be_v not_o infallible_a in_o speak_v first_o i_o be_o glad_a to_o find_v you_o in_o hand_n with_o infallible_a demonstration_n for_o if_o demonstration_n theological_a be_v to_o be_v have_v and_o may_v be_v own_v as_o infallible_a i_o hope_v there_o will_v be_v no_o great_a need_n among_o sober_a person_n of_o your_o judicial_a decision_n unless_o you_o can_v get_v licence_n to_o demonstrate_v against_o and_o we_o neither_o for_o by_z nor_o from_o the_o scripture_n second_o your_o major_n be_v deny_v for_o heat_n and_o cold_a be_v two_o thing_n contrary_a one_o to_o another_o and_o yet_o i_o hope_v god_n himself_o may_v be_v infallible_a notwithstanding_o he_o have_v say_v summer_n and_o winter_n heat_n and_o cold_a gen._n 8.22_o you_o will_v say_v if_o you_o can_v speak_v no_o one_o that_o deliver_v two_o proposition_n the_o one_o contrary_a to_o the_o other_o can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v infallible_a though_o yet_o this_o will_v not_o do_v neither_o for_o you_o yourself_o may_v speak_v and_o write_v too_o these_o two_o proposition_n ahaziah_n begin_v to_o reign_v when_o he_o be_v forty_o and_o two_o year_n old_a and_o ahaziah_n begin_v to_o reign_v when_o he_o be_v twenty_o and_o two_o year_n old_a and_o yet_o this_o notwithstanding_o do_v nothing_o else_o hinder_v be_v infallible_a but_o that_o it_o may_v be_v sense_n and_o pertinent_a your_o major_n must_v be_v supply_v from_o your_o minor_a no_o one_o that_o affirm_v two_o thing_n of_o the_o same_o person_n that_o be_v contrary_a the_o one_o to_o the_o other_o can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v infallible_a in_o speak_v but_o to_o affirm_v of_o ahaziah_n that_o he_o be_v twenty_o and_o two_o year_n old_a when_o he_o begin_v to_o reign_v and_o that_o he_o be_v forty_o and_o two_o year_n old_a when_o he_o begin_v to_o reign_v be_v to_o speak_v two_o thing_n contrary_a the_o one_o to_o the_o other_o yes_o and_o more_o too_o or_o else_o nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n scilicet_fw-la to_o affirm_v of_o the_o same_o person_n two_o thing_n contradictory_n one_o to_o the_o other_o ●oc_n see_v lightfoot_n harmony_n in_o ●oc_n which_o yet_o this_o scripture_n do_v not_o for_o the_o book_n of_o chronicle_n in_o this_o place_n mean_v not_o that_o ahaziah_n be_v so_o old_a when_o he_o begin_v to_o reign_v but_o these_o
testimony_n and_o whereas_o he_o shall_v have_v resolve_v his_o faith_n into_o the_o sovereign_a authority_n and_o verity_n of_o god_n himself_o speak_v in_o scripture_n as_o the_o formal_a ground_n thereof_o and_o into_o the_o spirit_n enlighten_v inlve_a power_n as_o the_o efficient_a cause_n he_o resolve_v it_o whole_o into_o a_o inward_a testimony_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o which_o for_o aught_o appear_v neither_o of_o the_o twain_o save_v by_o hear-say_n know_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o however_o instead_o of_o the_o spirit_n testimony_n the_o man_n may_v better_o have_v say_v in_o this_o case_n simple_o by_o the_o spirit_n by_o the_o spirit_n scilicet_fw-la as_o that_o medium_n facultatis_fw-la whereby_o we_o be_v enable_v to_o see_v and_o believe_v scriptural_a verity_n to_o be_v divine_a albeit_o as_o dr._n ames_n well_o observe_v 5._o medulla_n l._n 2._o c._n 5._o there_o be_v a_o sufficient_a and_o certain_a representation_n propose_v to_o we_o in_o the_o scripture_n both_o of_o thing_n that_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v and_o of_o that_o reason_n upon_o which_o we_o ought_v to_o believe_v they_o see_v rom._n 16.26_o nor_o yet_o four_o do_v he_o perceive_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o faith_n dogmatical_a complex_fw-la assent_v to_o the_o truth_n of_o divine_a proposition_n and_o that_o faith_n which_o we_o call_v salvifical_a incomplex_fw-la fix_v on_o adhere_v to_o and_o rest_v in_o jesus_n christ_n alone_a that_o may_v be_v various_a respect_v have_v to_o its_o object_n the_o same_o man_n know_v such_o a_o proposition_n to_o be_v reveal_v to_o morrow_n which_o he_o know_v not_o to_o day_n and_o consequent_o believe_v that_o to_o morrow_n which_o to_o day_n he_o do_v not_o this_o respect_v have_v to_o the_o object_n vary_v not_o it_o be_v jesus_n the_o same_o yesterday_o to_o day_n and_o for_o ever_o though_o yet_o respect_n have_v to_o the_o subject_n like_o as_o the_o other_o it_o be_v sometime_o weak_a or_o strong_a confuse_v or_o more_o distinct_a and_o hence_o man_n of_o different_a faith_n incomplex_fw-la can_v be_v save_v for_o there_o be_v no_o other_o name_n under_o heaven_n give_v etc._n etc._n act_v 4.12_o other_o foundation_n can_v no_o man_n lay_v than_o that_o be_v lay_v which_o be_v jesus_n christ_n 1_o cor._n 3.11_o oneness_n of_o faith_n as_o to_o this_o be_v commend_v and_o command_v eph._n 4.5_o compare_v with_o eph._n 4.13_o unto_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o faith_n and_o knowledge_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n he_o that_o believe_v on_o the_o son_n of_o god_n have_v life_n eternal_a and_o he_o that_o believe_v not_o etc._n etc._n john_n 3.36_o but_o man_n may_v be_v of_o different_a faith_n complex_fw-la believe_v diverse_a nay_o contrary_a proposition_n and_o yet_o through_o grace_n obtain_v salvation_n some_o build_v gold_n silver_n precious_a stone_n some_o wood_n hay_o stubble_n one_o believe_v he_o may_v eat_v all_o thing_n another_o who_o be_v weak_a eat_v herb_n rom._n 14.2_o five_o and_o last_o the_o man_n seem_v not_o to_o know_v of_o any_o difference_n betwixt_o a_o acquire_v habit_n and_o a_o divine_a gift_n the_o requisite_n to_o our_o get_n of_o science_n and_o god_n give_v of_o faith_n science_n it_o be_v true_a as_o thomas_n determine_v can_v be_v have_v unless_o we_o first_o know_v the_o certainty_n of_o the_o medium_fw-la or_o reason_n whereby_o the_o conclusion_n be_v demonstrate_v but_o it_o be_v impertinent_a to_o faith_n as_o estius_n well_o conclude_v by_o what_o mean_v we_o believe_v the_o prime_a verity_n that_o be_v by_o what_o mean_v god_n use_v to_o bestow_v on_o man_n the_o gift_n of_o faith_n he_o may_v do_v it_o as_o well_o by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o mean_a minister_n as_o of_o the_o great_a apostle_n for_o indeed_o neither_o the_o one_o nor_o the_o other_o be_v or_o need_v to_o be_v what_o he_o suppose_v a_o foundation_n or_o argument_n whereon_o to_o build_v but_o simple_o a_o medium_n or_o instrument_n whereby_o be_v beget_v and_o bring_v forth_o that_o faith_n which_o be_v of_o the_o operation_n of_o god_n 7._o page_n 7._o and_o therefore_o in_o vain_a do_v he_o dispute_v about_o the_o primitive_a christian_n believe_v either_o because_o the_o apostle_n so_o teach_v or_o simon_n magus_n so_o affirm_v for_o it_o be_v not_o because_o but_o by_o the_o preach_a whether_o of_o paul_n or_o apollo_n that_o they_o do_v believe_v we_o have_v not_o dominion_n over_o your_o faith_n 2_o cor._n 1.24_o who_o then_o be_v paul_n or_o who_o be_v apollo_n but_o minister_n by_o who_o you_o believe_v even_o as_o the_o lord_n give_v to_o every_o man_n 1_o cor._n 3.5_o the_o captain_n inadvertency_n or_o imprudence_n be_v as_o evident_a first_o in_o that_o he_o never_o call_v to_o mind_n that_o priest_n and_o jesuit_n pass_v usual_o under_o the_o notion_n of_o lay_v gentleman_n and_o great_a folk_n cousin_n trust_n eve_n like_v to_o his_o own_o skill_n and_o never_o make_v know_v either_o his_o doubt_n or_o the_o gentleman_n objection_n to_o any_o of_o the_o protestant_a minister_n he_o borrow_v it_o be_v true_a a_o certain_a deal_n of_o popish_a book_n the_o question_n of_o question_n novelty_n repress_v fiat_n lux_fw-la infidelity_n unmask_v or_o a_o confutation_n of_o a_o book_n publish_v by_o mr._n william_n chillingworth_n but_o never_o inquire_v for_o mr._n william_n chillingworth_n own_o book_n nor_o dr._n hammonds_n answer_v to_o infidelity_n unmask_v in_o his_o vindication_n of_o the_o lord_n falkland_n he_o never_o send_v to_o dr._n owen_n for_o his_o animadversion_n on_o fiat_n lux_fw-la nor_o advise_v with_o mr._n baxter_n about_o novelty_n suppress_v have_v he_o consult_v with_o these_o minister_n of_o we_o and_o tell_v we_o wherein_o they_o fail_v in_o the_o answer_v either_o these_o book_n or_o the_o lie_v gentleman_n objection_n it_o may_v have_v be_v of_o some_o moment_n have_v startle_v perhaps_o some_o of_o the_o nonconformist_n but_o to_o make_v a_o stir_v and_o a_o story_n how_o mild_o how_o profound_o the_o lay_v gentleman_n object_v and_o then_o how_o extreme_o trouble_v how_o strange_o the_o horse-captain_n be_v gravel_v argue_v nothing_o save_v the_o gentleman_n cunning_a craftiness_n and_o the_o captain_n dastardly_a weakness_n the_o cause_n no_o more_o concern_v than_o if_o they_o have_v never_o have_v meeting_n second_o he_o never_o consider_v that_o the_o gentleman_n be_v altogether_o for_o ask_v question_n robert_n never_o propose_v any_o for_o if_o when_o the_o captain_n be_v gravel_v and_o can_v not_o certain_o prove_v the_o truth_n of_o christianity_n from_o his_o own_o fanatic_a principle_n he_o have_v put_v the_o gentleman_n to_o it_o to_o have_v prove_v christianity_n certain_o true_a from_o the_o popish_a a_o hundred_o to_o one_o but_o they_o have_v both_o prove_v heathen_n the_o one_o be_v no_o more_o able_a to_o establish_v it_o by_o miracle_n upon_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n than_o the_o other_o by_o sense_n and_o feel_n upon_o the_o spirit_n testimony_n the_o man_n now_o know_v and_o find_v this_o to_o be_v true_a enough_o and_o therefore_o in_o the_o conclusion_n do_v he_o present_v we_o with_o six_o query_n conjure_v his_o old_a brethren_n to_o answer_v they_o and_o withal_o wary_o provide_v that_o they_o shall_v not_o ask_v he_o any_o question_n at_o all_o but_o first_o ascertain_v what_o they_o will_v establish_v for_o say_v he_o page_n 85._o who_o know_v not_o if_o a_o man_n will_v give_v himself_o scope_n to_o be_v bold_a he_o may_v raise_v argument_n against_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o trinity_n or_o any_o other_o mystery_n of_o faith_n that_o will_v puzzle_v learned_a man_n to_o answer_v a_o piece_n of_o cunning_a and_o caution_n i_o can_v wish_v all_o our_o weak_a sort_n of_o protestant_n to_o take_v special_a notice_n of_o three_o the_o man_n unadvised_o all_o along_o confound_v endeavour_n to_o fix_v and_o find_v in_o the_o same_o subject_n the_o rule_n judge_n and_o guide_n of_o faith_n whenas_o these_o three_o be_v in_o their_o respective_a nature_n uses_n end_v distinct_a and_o scarce_o possible_a to_o be_v subject_v in_o the_o same_o thing_n or_o person_n the_o scripture_n may_v be_v a_o rule_n certain_a and_o stable_a as_o bellarmine_n and_o yet_o no_o judge_n reason_n may_v be_v a_o judge_n or_o rather_o that_o whereby_o every_o man_n be_v to_o judge_v for_o himself_o as_o chillingworth_n and_o yet_o no_o rule_n the_o spirit_n may_v be_v guide_n to_o direct_v draw_v and_o lead_v we_o into_o all_o truth_n and_o yet_o neither_o rule_n nor_o judge_n the_o church_n by_o her_o ministry_n may_v be_v subservient_fw-fr to_o the_o spirit_n in_o lead_v helpful_a to_o we_o in_o find_v out_o applying_z of_o and_o judge_v according_a to_o the_o rule_n and_o yet_o the_o church_n itself_o be_v neither_o rule_n judge_n nor_o guide_n nor_o will_v now_o that_o grand_a sophism_n the_o spirit_n be_v not_o reason_n be_v not_o the_o
two_o and_o forty_o year_n have_v relation_n to_o another_o thing_n namely_o to_o the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o house_n of_o omri_n and_o not_o to_o the_o age_n of_o ahaziah_n for_o count_n from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o reign_n of_o omri_n and_o you_o find_v ahaziah_n to_o enter_v his_o reign_n in_o the_o two_o and_o forty_o year_n from_o thence_o the_o original_a word_n therefore_o ben_n arbagumi_fw-la vshethaiim_fw-la shunah_n be_v not_o to_o be_v translate_v as_o they_o be_v ahaziah_n be_v two_o and_o forty_o year_n old_a but_o ahaziah_n be_v the_o son_n of_o the_o two_o and_o forty_o year_n as_o sedar_n olam_n have_v acute_o observe_v long_o ago_o nor_o shall_v you_o tell_v we_o now_o of_o our_o different_a translation_n unless_o it_o can_v be_v make_v appear_v that_o the_o church_n in_o all_o age_n have_v and_o of_o necessity_n ought_v to_o have_v one_o authentic_a translation_n or_o second_o that_o our_o translation_n do_v not_o clear_o and_o with_o one_o consent_n deliver_v to_o we_o all_o point_n necessary_a to_o be_v believe_v differ_v only_o in_o some_o punctilio_n of_o a_o inferior_a concern_v or_o three_o that_o it_o may_v not_o be_v as_o lawful_a for_o we_o to_o propose_v what_o seem_v agreeable_a to_o reason_n for_o the_o remove_n as_o it_o be_v for_o you_o to_o urge_v what_o seem_v contradictory_n to_o reason_n for_o the_o raise_n of_o objection_n against_o a_o book_n of_o scripture_n so_o universal_o receive_v for_o canonical_a and_o your_o minor_a thus_o mend_v be_v deny_v for_o contradictory_n must_v be_v ad_fw-la idem_fw-la in_o the_o same_o respect_n as_o well_o as_o de_fw-fr eodem_fw-la loc_n see_v peter_n martyr_n in_o loc_n concern_v the_o same_o person_n ahaziah_n begin_v to_o reign_v with_o his_o sickly_a infirm_a father_n when_o he_o be_v twenty_o and_o two_o year_n old_a and_o the_o same_o ahaziah_n be_v forty_o and_o two_o year_n old_a when_o he_o begin_v to_o reign_v himself_o alone_o or_o if_o this_o will_v not_o satisfy_v you_o may_v consult_v with_o your_o own_o cornelius_n de_fw-fr lapide_fw-la upon_o the_o place_n he_o will_v tell_v you_o of_o the_o syriack_n and_o arabic_a translation_n both_o those_o of_o antioch_n or_o mount_n sinai_n the_o alexandrian_a or_o coptick_n that_o for_o forty_o two_o have_v twenty_o two_o and_o he_o that_o be_v offend_v at_o the_o other_o may_v use_v this_o read_n nor_o be_v it_o say_v he_o the_o interpreter_n but_o the_o scripture_n itself_o that_o correct_v itself_o corrupt_v by_o the_o transcriber_n the_o book_n of_o king_n correct_v the_o book_n of_o chronicle_n nor_o need_v we_o go_v further_o than_o scripture_n for_o salve_v of_o the_o other_o difficulty_n for_o 1_o chron._n 3.16_o will_v teach_v you_o to_o insert_v joechim_n or_o jachim_n betwixt_o josias_n and_o jeconiah_n mat._n 1.11_o and_o so_o complete_a your_o number_n of_o forty_o two_o and_o gen._n 10.22_o will_v tell_v you_o to_o put_v out_o cannai_n from_o betwixt_o sem_fw-mi and_o arphaxad_a put_v in_o upon_o special_a reason_n as_o be_v conceive_v by_o the_o seventy_o loco_fw-la see_v lightfoot_n harmony_n in_o loco_fw-la and_o retain_v as_o be_v likely_a by_o s._n luke_n chap._n 3.36_o the_o better_a to_o win_v upon_o the_o gentile_n the_o argument_n from_o heaven_n for_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v judge_n and_o guide_n solve_v and_o now_o that_o i_o may_v conclude_v my_o whole_a proof_n with_o a_o argument_n from_o heaven_n 74._o pag._n 74._o and_o by_o a_o testimony_n of_o the_o high_a nature_n make_v it_o evident_a to_o you_o that_o this_o roman_a catholic_n church_n must_v be_v this_o church_n which_o god_n have_v appoint_v to_o be_v this_o guide_n and_o judge_n i_o shall_v insist_v upon_o the_o gift_n of_o miracle_n this_o be_v that_o testimony_n which_o our_o bless_a redeemer_n do_v himself_o produce_v as_o his_o letter_n of_o credence_n and_o as_o both_o necessary_a and_o sufficient_a to_o prove_v his_o mission_n if_o i_o have_v not_o say_v our_o lord_n joh._n 15.24_o do_v among_o they_o the_o work_n that_o no_o other_o man_n do_v they_o have_v not_o have_v sin_n namely_o in_o not_o believe_v i_o to_o be_v the_o messiah_n god_n therefore_o have_v decree_v it_o as_o a_o law_n that_o whosoever_o refuse_v to_o believe_v and_o submit_v unto_o that_o authority_n unto_o which_o he_o set_v his_o hand_n and_o seal_n by_o bestow_v on_o it_o the_o gift_n of_o miracle_n that_o person_n commit_v sin_n the_o reason_n be_v give_v in_o the_o same_o text_n viz._n because_o he_o thereby_o show_v that_o he_o hate_v god_n namely_o by_o not_o believe_v he_o now_o i_o urge_v but_o the_o roman_n catholic_n church_n have_v do_v work_n and_o miracle_n among_o we_o such_o as_o no_o other_o christian_a church_n upon_o earth_n have_v do_v therefore_o if_o we_o give_v credit_n to_o any_o other_o church_n or_o church_n and_o disbelieve_v or_o refuse_v to_o believe_v she_o we_o shall_v have_v sin_n and_o show_v ourselves_o to_o be_v hater_n of_o god_n first_o you_o pretend_v here_o to_o conclude_v your_o proof_n with_o a_o argument_n from_o heaven_n and_o yet_o have_v you_o not_o hiththerto_o produce_v so_o much_o as_o one_o testimony_n of_o the_o low_a nature_n somewhat_o you_o have_v say_v indeed_o which_o be_v already_o touch_v to_o prove_v what_o we_o grant_v scilicet_fw-la that_o no_o other_o church_n can_v be_v but_o have_v not_o say_v a_o word_n to_o make_v good_a what_o you_o yourself_o affirm_v viz._n that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v this_o infallible_a rule_n judge_n and_o guide_n and_o let_v i_o tell_v you_o by_o the_o way_n either_o you_o can_v prove_v this_o your_o church_n infallible_a or_o you_o can_v if_o you_o can_v wherefore_o shall_v we_o believe_v it_o if_o you_o can_v either_o by_o revelation_n or_o by_o reason_n divine_a revelation_n it_o be_v apparent_a you_o neither_o do_v can_v nor_o attempt_v to_o produce_v and_o as_o for_o reason_n you_o have_v already_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v fallible_a so_o that_o at_o best_a how_o much_o soever_o you_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v take_v with_o your_o own_o fallacy_n your_o church_n can_v be_v prove_v but_o fallible_o to_o be_v infallible_a but_o second_o there_o be_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o gift_n and_o the_o power_n of_o work_a miracle_n you_o do_v it_o be_v true_a insist_v upon_o the_o gift_n but_o shall_v make_v it_o out_o that_o your_o church_n have_v power_n of_o work_a miracle_n if_o you_o will_v evince_v she_o christ-like_a to_o be_v infallible_a this_o be_v necessary_a that_o have_v not_o be_v sufficient_a to_o have_v prove_v his_o mission_n it_o be_v therefore_o somewhat_o loose_v argue_v for_o you_o to_o conclude_v the_o jew_n commit_v sin_n be_v hater_n of_o god_n for_o not_o believe_v jesus_n to_o be_v the_o messiah_n who_o do_v among_o they_o the_o work_n which_o no_o other_o man_n do_v viz._n wrought_v miracle_n by_o his_o own_o power_n and_o therefore_o christian_n commit_v sin_n show_v themselves_o hater_n of_o god_n in_o not_o believe_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v infallible_a because_o she_o have_v the_o gift_n can_v do_v work_n howbeit_o none_o among_o we_o like_o other_o man_n viz._n work_v miracle_n in_o the_o name_n and_o power_n of_o another_o and_o hence_o three_o we_o deny_v god_n have_v decree_v any_o such_o a_o law_n as_o you_o tell_v of_o 11._o 1_o sam._n 10._o numb_a 11._o for_o though_o a_o authority_n to_o which_o god_n set_v his_o hand_n and_o seal_v by_o bestow_v on_o it_o the_o gift_n of_o miracle_n may_v be_v render_v thereby_o like_o that_o of_o saul_n and_o the_o seventy_o by_o the_o spirit_n of_o prophecy_n more_o than_o ordinary_a venerable_a and_o whosoever_o refuse_v to_o believe_v and_o submit_v to_o a_o authority_n know_v it_o to_o work_v miracle_n by_o its_o own_o power_n that_o person_n commit_v sin_n and_o show_v himself_o a_o hater_n of_o of_o god_n yet_o may_v a_o authority_n divine_o sign_v and_o seal_v by_o have_v that_o gift_n be_v disbelieved_a however_o submission_n still_o due_a whether_o it_o have_v the_o gift_n or_o not_o without_o contract_v any_o such_o a_o guilt_n not_o disbelieved_a do_v i_o mean_v in_o a_o particular_a doctrine_n that_o it_o shall_v actual_o and_o visible_o confirm_v by_o miracle_n but_o disbelieved_a when_o teach_v itself_o and_o all_o other_o authority_n that_o have_v that_o gift_n to_o be_v disbelievable_a upon_o that_o account_n or_o de_fw-fr debito_fw-la believe_v in_o all_o that_o they_o shall_v dictate_v forth_o unto_o we_o that_o be_v indeed_o a_o doctrine_n never_o confirm_v by_o miracle_n nor_o deliver_v by_o he_o that_o have_v the_o power_n of_o work_v of_o they_o though_o yet_o four_o it_o can_v be_v make_v out_o that_o christ_n do_v set_v his_o hand_n and_o seal_n either_o to_o this_o or_o that_o authority_n by_o bestow_v on_o it_o any_o such_o a_o gift_n for_o particular_a believer_n
chillingworth_n that_o god_n in_o his_o justice_n may_v permit_v some_o true_a miracle_n to_o be_v wrought_v to_o delude_v man_n who_o have_v forge_v many_o i_o answer_v that_o by_o this_o you_o help_v the_o jew_n who_o refuse_v to_o believe_v the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n notwithstanding_o their_o miracle_n for_o why_o may_v not_o they_o say_v god_n in_o his_o justice_n for_o our_o sin_n may_v permit_v those_o true_a miracle_n to_o be_v wrought_v by_o jesus_n christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n to_o delude_v we_o who_o have_v forge_v many_o i_o hope_v this_o answer_n will_v satisfy_v any_o rational_a person_n but_o if_o it_o do_v not_o i_o have_v another_o answer_n to_o give_v out_o of_o mr._n chillingworth_n own_o word_n pag._n 144._o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o god_n shall_v lie_v or_o that_o the_o eternal_a truth_n shall_v set_v his_o hand_n and_o seal_n to_o the_o confirmation_n of_o a_o falsehood_n or_o of_o such_o a_o doctrine_n as_o be_v partly_o true_a and_o partly_o false_a the_o apostle_n doctrine_n be_v thus_o viz._n by_o miracle_n confirm_v therefore_o it_o be_v entire_o true_a and_o in_o no_o particular_a false_a or_o uncertain_a if_o you_o reply_v this_o contradict_v mr._n chillingworth_n former_a position_n i_o must_v answer_v that_o if_o mr._n chillingworth_n be_v find_v to_o contradict_v himself_o rely_v upon_o his_o own_o reason_n it_o be_v not_o my_o fault_n nor_o do_v it_o make_v any_o thing_n against_o our_o church_n 1._o if_o you_o will_v have_v we_o guilty_a of_o sin_n and_o hater_n of_o god_n for_o refuse_v to_o believe_v on_o that_o account_n it_o be_v necessary_a according_a to_o the_o tenor_n of_o your_o own_o law_n that_o the_o miracle_n be_v do_v among_o and_o see_v of_o we_o if_o i_o have_v not_o do_v among_o they_o the_o work_n which_o no_o other_o man_n do_v they_o have_v not_o have_v sin_n but_o now_o have_v they_o both_o see_v and_o hate_v both_o i_o and_o my_o father_n and_o yet_o i_o think_v it_o be_v by_o chance_n indeed_o if_o any_o say_v that_o this_o testimony_n be_v nothing_o to_o they_o mere_o because_o they_o have_v not_o see_v a_o miracle_n it_o be_v the_o testimony_n itself_o that_o they_o except_v against_o and_o yet_o 2._o there_o be_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o remain_v out_o of_o communion_n and_o remain_v out_o of_o subjection_n to_o that_o you_o call_v the_o holy_a catholic_n church_n suppose_v we_o grant_v the_o truth_n of_o these_o thing_n it_o may_v perhaps_o be_v a_o sin_n to_o remain_v out_o of_o her_o communion_n and_o yet_o a_o duty_n to_o remain_v out_o of_o her_o subjection_n miracle_n as_o have_v be_v say_v may_v evince_v the_o truth_n of_o such_o and_o such_o a_o church_n and_o yet_o make_v nothing_o at_o all_o in_o order_n to_o the_o prove_v of_o her_o either_o supreme_a or_o infallible_a though_o yet_o mistake_v i_o not_o by_o communion_n i_o do_v not_o mean_v a_o communion_n total_a or_o local_a in_o all_o her_o doctrine_n and_o pollute_a mode_n of_o worship_n but_o partial_a spiritual_n in_o those_o doctrine_n and_o performance_n suppose_v to_o be_v confirm_v by_o those_o miracle_n however_o 3._o it_o be_v well_o you_o make_v it_o no_o worse_o with_o they_o that_o refuse_v to_o believe_v these_o thing_n they_o have_v not_o see_v than_o to_o destroy_v faith_n and_o take_v away_o all_o humane_a converse_n etc._n etc._n i_o be_v afraid_a you_o will_v have_v charge_v they_o as_o christ_n do_v the_o jew_n with_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n though_o yet_o as_o it_o be_v your_o charge_n be_v so_o high_a it_o can_v never_o be_v make_v good_a for_o may_v not_o faith_n think_v you_o evidence_n thing_n not_o see_v upon_o the_o account_n of_o divine_a revelation_n unless_o we_o believe_v what_o we_o never_o see_v upon_o the_o report_n of_o abraham_n hartwell_n and_o john_n brere_o may_v not_o one_o man_n believe_v another_o about_o worldly_a thing_n with_o a_o humane_a faith_n unless_o one_o man_n believe_v another_o about_o heavenly_a doctrine_n with_o a_o faith_n divine_a or_o can_v thief_n and_o traitor_n ever_o imagine_v that_o a_o law_n public_o promulge_v by_o the_o king_n and_o practical_o attest_v by_o the_o whole_a nation_n may_v as_o warrantable_o be_v plead_v against_o by_o they_o as_o the_o private_a testimony_n of_o a_o few_o ignote_v traveller_n may_v be_v except_v against_o by_o we_o especial_o when_o they_o discourse_v large_o about_o miracle_n which_o if_o your_o own_o doctor_n say_v true_a neither_o they_o nor_o any_o man_n else_o can_v with_o certainty_n distinguish_v from_o lie_a wonder_n we_o have_v notice_n of_o the_o reign_v and_o act_n of_o the_o several_a king_n and_o queen_n of_o england_n no_o otherwise_o than_o by_o hear-say_n and_o by_o author_n and_o book_n and_o we_o have_v notice_n of_o the_o life_n and_o act_n of_o bevise_n of_o southampton_n robin_n hood_n and_o little_a john_n by_o hear-say_n author_n and_o book_n and_o will_v any_o conclude_v the_o one_o be_v to_o be_v credit_v as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o because_o they_o have_v see_v neither_o and_o both_o come_v to_o we_o report_v by_o that_o you_o may_v have_v the_o forehead_n to_o call_v a_o good_a authority_n your_o grand_a argument_n as_o be_v before_o observe_v come_v to_o nothing_o because_o we_o have_v not_o see_v your_o miracle_n howbeit_o we_o give_v a_o ground_n for_o no_o such_o inference_n as_o these_o but_o be_v ready_a to_o proportion_v our_o belief_n according_a to_o the_o worth_n and_o weight_n of_o the_o testimony_n be_v it_o divine_a or_o humane_a nor_o yet_o will_v the_o infidel_n be_v excuse_v for_o that_o they_o have_v not_o see_v the_o miracle_n for_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n their_o sound_n go_v into_o all_o the_o earth_n and_o their_o word_n unto_o the_o utmost_a part_n of_o the_o world_n rom._n 10.18_o and_o now_o in_o these_o day_n beside_o the_o universal_a tradition_n of_o the_o church_n we_o have_v reason_n and_o record_n undeniable_a to_o evince_v the_o truth_n of_o christianity_n and_o of_o miracle_n have_v be_v do_v to_o confirm_v it_o howbeit_o those_o who_o have_v not_o hear_v at_o all_o or_o hear_v no_o better_a proof_n for_o the_o truth_n of_o christian_a religion_n than_o you_o bring_v for_o your_o popish_a miracle_n if_o excusable_a for_o not_o believe_v before_o doubtless_o may_v yet_o remain_v in_o the_o same_o venial_a condition_n as_o they_o be_v and_o now_o for_o a_o close_a 4._o give_v i_o leave_v to_o mind_v you_o 1._o that_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o epistle_n you_o will_v have_v faith_n destroy_v transform_v into_o fancy_n humour_n and_o opinion_n if_o build_v on_o any_o foundation_n save_o divine_a revelation_n or_o what_o we_o do_v certain_o know_v to_o be_v infallible_o true_a and_o now_o here_o you_o will_v have_v a_o total_a destruction_n of_o faith_n unless_o it_o may_v be_v build_v upon_o the_o private_a apocryphal_a report_n of_o abraham_n hartwell_n john_n pory_n john_n brere_o and_o such_o like_a man_n not_o only_o fallible_a subject_a to_o error_n and_o in_o a_o possibility_n to_o be_v mistake_v in_o this_o very_a thing_n but_o man_n that_o can_v be_v conclude_v with_o any_o probability_n of_o reason_n to_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n to_o know_v the_o certain_a truth_n of_o what_o they_o say_v they_o do_v affirm_v 2._o you_o can_v now_o present_v we_o with_o a_o argument_n from_o mr._n chillingworth_n sufficient_a at_o once_o both_o to_o convince_v a_o heathen_a of_o the_o truth_n of_o christianity_n and_o to_o prove_v the_o divinity_n of_o the_o scripture_n it_o be_v impossible_a that_o god_n shall_v lie_v and_o that_o the_o eternal_a truth_n shall_v set_v his_o hand_n and_o seal_n to_o the_o confirmation_n of_o a_o falsehood_n or_o of_o such_o doctrine_n as_o be_v partly_o true_a and_o partly_o false_a the_o apostle_n doctrine_n be_v thus_o viz._n by_o miracle_n confirm_v therefore_o it_o be_v entire_o true_a and_o in_o no_o particular_a false_a or_o uncertain_a and_o yet_o in_o your_o discourse_n with_o the_o lay_v gentleman_n you_o have_v not_o a_o word_n to_o say_v for_o the_o truth_n of_o christianity_n upon_o protestant_a ground_n nor_o any_o thing_n for_o scripture_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n save_v that_o the_o spirit_n witness_v with_o your_o spirit_n they_o be_v so_o 3._o the_o gospel_n scripture_n doctrine_n we_o preach_v be_v like_o your_o universal_a essential_a predication_n eternal_a once_o confirm_v by_o miracle_n in_o themselves_o or_o their_o principal_n they_o need_v no_o more_o this_o proposition_n the_o roman_a church_n be_v infallible_a have_v a_o personal_a mutable_a individuum_fw-la for_o its_o subject_n change_v every_o age_n may_v change_v every_o year_n and_o therefore_o still_o stand_v in_o need_n of_o new_a miraculous_a confirmation_n insomuch_o that_o will_v we_o give_v you_o leave_v to_o suppose_v miracle_n wrought_v in_o