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A36686	A treatise of laying on of hands with the history thereof, both from the scripture and antiquity : wherein an account is given how it hath been practised in all ages since Christ, the mistakes about it rectified and the sence of Heb. 6.2. cleared / by H. D'Anvers.	Danvers, Henry, d. 1687.	1674 (1674)	Wing D236; ESTC R8336	28,018	61

But what do you say to the Practice of the Waldensian Church to whom you have ascribed so much Authentickness Who as you observe were such early Witnesses for Truth as well as eminent opposers of the Romish Church in all their Fopperies who yet as it appeareth have asserted and practised Confirmation as you have at large in the forecited Apology to King Laodislaus King of Hungary and Bohemia Answ To which I say That it is most manif st as I have already demonstrated that that Apology was not from the Waldenses as the Preamble it self declares but from some of those Professors distinguished by the name Hussites who held much with those of the Reformed Way in Germany and not the Taborites or Waldensian Brethren who also inhabited in Bohemia and other parts of Germany Poland and Hungary And that those true Waldenses were of a quite contrary Opinion appears by their Ancient Confessions of Faith an eminent Instance whereof you 'l find in their Treatise of Sacraments in Paul Perin p. 329. and in Morland's History p. 175. in these words viz. As for the Sacrament of Confirmation which we find not instituted either by Christ or his Apostles for Christ the Pattern of all his Church was not confirmed in his Person and he doth not require that there should be any such thing in Baptism but only pure Water and that such a Sacrament is not found needful for Salvation whereby God is blasphemed and which was introduced by the Devil's instigation to seduce the People and to deprive them of the Faith of the Church and that by such means they might be drawn the more to believe the Ceremonies and the necessity of Bishops It is also to be taken notice of Justin Martyr give no account in his Apology that Justin Martyr in his Apology giving an Account of the Faith and Practice of the Churches in those days to Antonius Pius takes not the least notice hereof though he recounts all their Services and Ceremonies in Worship with great Plainness It is also not unworthy our observation that the Novatians Novatians that worthy famous Church and People did as Joseph Vicecomes tells us oppose this Business of Confirmation in Century 3. Vicecomes l. 28. p. 372. And also it is manifest out of Breerwood Nor in the Greek Churches the eminent Recorder of the Antiquities of the Greek Churches that the Greeks did impugn and reject that of Confirmation Br. p. 127. out of Pas De Rep. Mosch p. 40. And particularly tells us that the Nestorians Nestorians did not practise it p. 124. out of Bib. Pat. p 1054. That the Abyssines Abyssines inhabiting Prester John's Countrey did not practise it Br. p. 167. Ex Alv. Hist Aethiop c. 5. Muscov And that the Muscovites omit it Br. p. 136. Ex Jo. Metrop Russ in Epist ad Episc Rom. apud Sigism De Reb. Musc p. 31. Cophti nor Jacobites And that there is no mention either of the Cophti in Egyp or Jacobites in Syria that ever practised this Rite It is also manifest out of the Confessions of Faith of the Belgick Churches esteeming themselves the true and immediate Successors of the Waldenses recorded at large in the Dutch Martyrol or Bloody Theater printed in 1660. That there is no mention of any such practice as Imposition of Hands upon all baptized persons amongst them either formerly or latterly 3. The Scripture Ground In the next place we shall consider the Scripture-ground that is urged and produced in proof hereof especially by the two latter which we find to be principally from Heb. 6.2 The Doctrine of Baptism laying on of Hands 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which Mr. Hanmer Mr. Hanmer acknowledgeth to be the chief and though as he modestly expresseth himself but a probable ground from the Scripture to found it upon being there made one of the Principles of the Doctrine of Christ and placed next after Baptism and as it were an Appendix thereof and which for the most part immediately followed it in such Adult as were baptized and the next priviledge of the Church he saith that such did enjoy as had been baptized in Infancy and that many of the best Interpreters did usually understand this place to mean in part at least of Imposition of Hands in Confirmation though he doth confess others did also take it to mean Imposition of Hands in Ordination and others the whole Doctrine of laying on of hands as exprest in the Scripture but especially leans upon the Tradition and the Vsage and Practice of the Church in all Ages p. 26 27. 1. To whom and to all of his Perswasion I say That if their Infants Baptism be a Nullity which they pretend hereby especially to confirm and is the main design of his and Mr. Baxter's Treatises that their practice hereupon falls to the ground for if their Hypothesis be naught and rotten their Thesis cannot be sound that is built upon it but that it is so the foregoing Treatise of that Subject doth amply discover proving with great clearness that it was an Invention and Institution of man yea of the man of Sin calculated on purpose to out Christ's Baptism and to defile his Church and this appearing to be of the same Piece contrived and ordered by the same Heads and Hands it is meet that as they have lived so they should die together And secondly We may conclude rationally If Infants were capable of Baptism they were as capable at the same time of laying on of hands as first instituted and practised and of the Supper also as Austin and others tell us they had them all together and not first baptize them and then many years after and no body knows how and when confirm them for if one be a Foundation or beginning Doctrine as the other they have done best and most according to Rule and Reason that have practised it immediately and not deferr'd it And thirdly Since the Scripture is as confess'd but a probable ground and that of Tradition Antiquity and constant Usage of the Church the more certain the latter appearing so invalid upon all the foregoing Considerations that faint insinuation from that Scripture cannot be a ground sufficient to build that Practice upon And to which lastly we will add Mr. Baxter's Sober Cautions enough to shake the confidence of any that have no better Ground for the Practice as we find them in p. 127 128 129. of his Confirmation Where after he had with all his might endeavoured to establish it both from Scripture and Antiquity doth according to his wonted manner in a few Lines unsay more than he had said in all the rest viz. M. Baxt. Sober Cautions 1. That we do not find that God instituted this Sign as a Matter of necessity still without interruption to be used but only that by holy men it was applied as a convenient Sign or Gesture to the works in which they used it even as