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or_o unwritten_a tradition_n by_o divers_a authority_n both_o ancient_n and_o modern_a p._n 133._o austin_n austin_n austin_n say_v that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v not_o to_o be_v believe_v unless_o it_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n etc._n etc._n bellarmin_n bellarmin_n bellarmin_n tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n not_o write_v because_o say_v he_o it_o be_v not_o write_v in_o any_o apostolical_a b_o ok_n though_o in_o the_o book_n of_o almost_o all_o the_o ancient_n etc._n etc._n doctor_n field_n field_n dr._n field_n that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v therefore_o call_v a_o tradition_n because_o it_o be_v not_o deliver_v in_o the_o scripture_n that_o the_o apostle_n do_v baptise_v infant_n or_o that_o they_o spould_v do_v so_o convocation_n at_o oxford_n that_o without_o the_o consentaneous_a judgement_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o universal_a church_n they_o shall_v be_v at_o a_o loss_n when_o they_o be_v call_v upon_o for_o proof_n in_o the_o point_n of_o infant_n baptism_n with_o divers_a other_o assert_v the_o same_o from_o pag._n 133._o to_o the_o 137._o to_o which_o mr._n will_n say_v pag._n 115._o 122._o that_o it_o be_v a_o false_a suggestion_n and_o exceed_v all_o modesty_n for_o although_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n ascribe_v too_o much_o to_o tradition_n herein_o make_v it_o equal_a with_o the_o scripture_n yet_o that_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v plead_v that_o it_o come_v in_o the_o room_n of_o circumcision_n and_o that_o infant_n have_v right_a thereto_o from_o the_o right_n that_o the_o jew_n infant_n have_v to_o circumcision_n and_o that_o the_o protestant_n when_o they_o use_v the_o word_n tradition_n do_v it_o as_o the_o father_n before_o they_o in_o sensu_fw-la sano_fw-la in_o a_o wholesome_a sense_n quite_o different_a from_o the_o corrupt_a sense_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o which_o i_o say_v though_o mr._n will_n affirm_v baptism_n agreement_n betwixt_o papist_n &_o protestant_n about_o the_o tradition_n 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