tell you they haue an vndoubted way to assure you of the doctrine they teach you to bee the truth of God which is by meanes of the miracles they boast to be frequent with them I wil confesse if we may beleeve them it hath been as easie and familiar with them to worke a wonder as it hath been with the Pope to make a Saint and yet I must tell you some doctors of his owne a Canus loc l. 5. c. 5. q. 5. Concl. 3. Cajetan likewise make doubt whether al be Saints in heavē that the Popes have canonized for such and thrust into the Romane Calender But to the miracles which they can chalenge as proper to their Church since their Bishops of that Sea haue ascended into the seate of their Vniversall Soveraignetie if they were all true as for the most part questionlesse they are but fables impostures such as those of the Legend are observed to be by men judicious and learned among themselves as Canus that plainly stiles the writer of them b Canus loc l. 11. c. 6. a man of a brasen face and a leaden heart Espenceus that affirmes c 2. Tim. 4. digr 25. No stable to be so ful of dongue as the Legends are ful of lies yet could this prove no certaine meane to assure vs of the truth to be with them seeing as Stapleton one of their Priests confesseth d Stapleton prompt mor part astiu in Dominic 24. post Pentecost For the more triall of the godly not only Antichrist himselfe and his forerunners but all heretikes also may doe true miracles by the permission of God as the Sorcerers of Pharaoh did And greater I presume my masters of Rome cānot boast of in these later times then Baronius the Cardinall hath recorded to be done by Simon Magus that instrument of the divel e Anno 63. num 22. That he made Images to walke and would lye in the fire without hurt that hee would flye in the ayre and make bread of stones that he could open doores fast shut vnloose bonds of iron that hee had many shadowes following him as it had bin men c. The like we may reade of others of that kinde But for resolution of this point I will here set downe a discourse of a learned Father the which is well worthy of your observation f Chrysost oper imperf num 49. Since Heresies have gained place in the Church there can bee no proofe of true Christianitie neither refuge for Christians willing to know the truth but the holy Scriptures Hereto fore it was by many means declared which was the Church of Christ and which was Gentilisme but now there is no way for those that are willing to know which is the true Church of Christ but by the Scriptures only wherefore because all those things that properly belong to Christ in truth Heresies likewise haue in schisme they haue churches they haue the holy scriptures they haue Bishops other orders of the Clergie they have Baptisme the holy Eucharist and all other things yea Christ himselfe whosoever therfore is willing to know which is the true Church of Christ how shal he know it in the confusion of so great resemblance but by the Scriptures only Heretofore it was knowne by miracles which were true Christians which false by what means The false either could not work signes as the true Christians did or at least not such as true Christiās could But now the working of miracles is wholly ceased and it is observed that counterfeit signes are more wrought with them that are false Christians Nay Peter in Clement hath foreshewed that Antichrist shal haue power giuē him to work true miracles Heretofore by the outward cōversation the Church of Christ might be knowne when the lives of Christians either all or the most part were holy such as it was not with others but now Christiās are become as bad or worse then heretikes or Gentiles nay there is a better outward carriage many times observed amongst those that are in Schisme then amongst Christians Hee therefore that would know which is the true Church of Christ how should hee know it but only by the Scriptures Our Lord therefore knowing that so great confusion of things would happen in the last dayes commands Christians that desire to receiue assurance of true faith to fly to nothing but the holy Scriptures If they looke to other things they shall be scandalized and perish not vnderstāding which is the true Church and thereby shall light vpon the abomination of desolation which shall stand in the holy places of the Church c. Thus far St. Chrysostom My masters of Rome howsoever they glose it like not the language of this learned Father To wish thē to expose their Church and doctrine to bee judged by the holy Scriptures were a hard saying with the Capernaites g Ioh. 6.60 in good reason they may tell you they cannot beare it But if St. Chrysostome had dealt so friendly with them as in place of onely Scriptures to haue named the word of God defining that word to consist as well of vnwritten traditions as the written word had withall assigned the Church of Rome with her supreame Pastor to be the trustie treasurer of vnwritten verities and the only infallible interpreter of the written word whereof the Cardinals conclusion might haue beene made good h Hosius de express Dei verbo pag. 38. That which pleaseth the Church is Gods expresse word and at the last resolving this Church into the Pope i Vnder the name of church we vnderstand her head that is to say the Rom. or bishop Greg. de valent in Tho. tom 3. disput 1. quaest 1. punct 1. alone questionlesse they would haue taken it as a kindnes at his hands But if he will insist vpon only Scriptures they will never giue over cavelling at this point First they will tell him k Canus loc l. 3. c. 3. that many things belong to Christian faith which are contained in the Scriptures neither openly nor obscurely St Chrysostome it seemes was of another mind who affirmeth l In Mat. hom 45. That whatsoever is required to salvation is all accomplished in the Scriptures neither is any thing wanting there that is needfull for mans salvation which mooues another of the antients to advise m Isidorus Pelusiota lib. 1. ep 369. That we refuse whatsoeuer is taught vnlesse it bee contained in the volume of the Bible a reason whereof Cyril a learned Father giues n lib. 72. in Ioh. haec autē scriptasunt c Because such things are written as the Apostles saw suffïcient for our faith and manners Possibly if they be intreated much in good nature they will acknowledge at the last as Bishop the Seminarie doth in his Tract against M. Perkins of Traditions o The scriptures containe not the resolution of difficulties which the learned must beleeue if they
THE ADVISE OF A SONNE NOVV PROFESSING THE RELIGION ESTABLISHED IN the present Church of England to his deare Mother yet a Roman Catholike AC OX AT OXFORD Printed by Ioseph Barnes Printer to the Vni versitie 1616. THE ADVISE OF A SONNE VNTO HIS MOTHER SEeing it hath pleased God to appoint you the meane of my being in the world by whose holy ordinance you may iustly chalenge as of your right frō me all sincere affection dutie and observation and besides the bond of Nature my obligacion being much encreased by your most louing and cōtinued care of me even from my childhood it is now my part and that vnder perill of a curse if I neglect it by all meanes I may to yeeld comforts to your yeares and from my hart and soule to wish that when your temporarie daies on earth shal end you may by the mercy of God take possession of the eternall ioyes of heaven I know and haue witnesses of this so many as haue knowne you that your intentions haue ever aimed at this mark your life and actions haue beene a rare patterne to your sexe alwaies well declaring your devotion zeale to the service of God The which being the principall end of our creation howsoever the generalitie now in this state of corruption trāsported with the cares the pleasures and enticements of this life lay it not to the heart it is without question a blessing incomparable whereof none can judge but they that feele it when God of his meere mercie by his holy Spirit shal moue the heart of a sinful creature who before delighted only in the way of his owne destruction sincerely to seeke and serue him for this we may build vpon as a truth that must admit no question that never any shall haue their place in heaven whose hearts by grace haue not beene truely moued to this duty heere on earth Since then the time of this life is the moment wherevpon dependeth etermitie of weale or woe it behooveth every Christian that desires salvation seriously to consider of the way he walkes in especially seeing we learne frō our Lord Master Christ himselfe that the way is narrow that leadeth vnto eternall life and that they are but few that finde it Yet this difficultie of finding the way to heaven riseth from the passengers wilfulnesse or want of care for the truth is that of the small company that make profession of Christianity in the world the greatest part howsoever they disguise themselues in acting their parts on earth with a maske of religion yet never aiming sincerely at salvation for their end wholly neglect the meanes and so runne the broad way to hell Others better weighing the shortnesse and instability of this present life and well foreseeing their future mortality in a state most blessed or no lesse accursed desire earnestly the joyes of heaven yet never attending diligently to attaine them by that way which God hath directed for that end but relying vpon guides whom they choose themselues at adventure to conduct them are carried blindfold at the last thorough vncertaine by-paths to their certain ruine It is true that God hath never failed in every age to send faithfull guides into the world to direct his servants in this earthly passage but it is likewise found true by woefull experience that the Divell hath heere his swarmes of agents likewise to mislead vs and of those very many who haue learned the skill of their master the Prince of darknesse to transforme themselues into the shape of the messengers of light If wee looke to the Church consisting of the Iewes alone before the comming of Christ we finde it recorded by the holy Prophets of God that it was in continuall danger by reason of false prophets and seducing Pastors that did infest it who a ler. 14.14 prophesied in the name of God when he sent them not so that as the Prophet Esay complaineth b Esay 9.16 The leaders of this people caused them to erre and they that were led by them were destroyed When Christ our Saviour came into the world who were they that most opposed him but the Scribes the Pharisies the high Priests who were then esteemed and tooke vpon them to be the guides and leaders of the people nay to discourage their Nation from receiving the doctrine of their salvation they thought it enough to presse this question c Ioh. 7.48 Doe any of the Rulers or of the Pharisies beleeue in him but this people that know not the Law c. In the time of the Gospell wee are forewarned of false teachers that shall rise vp in the Church who shal come neverthelesse in the name of Christ taking vpon them to be our guides nay some of them shall put on so faire a vizard of outward carriage as that they shall seduce if it were possible Gods chosen children So that it will concerne vs no lesse then the losse or salvation of our soules to be wary in our choice of the guides we follow for though it be certaine that the blinde and seducing teacher shall for his hire haue his portion in hell with his Master for whom he laboured yet must the seduced likewise know that they cannot escape the judgement of God so the one with the other fal at last into the pit of eternal ruine But herein to make vs the more inexcusable almighty God out of his infinit care of mans salvatiō hath not only forewarned vs of these noysome weeds that shall daily spring vp in his Church to the endangering of the corne but to make vs able to discerne betweene the true Pastors of his flocke and those impostors that endeavour to delude vs he sends vs none to treate with vs in this great affaire concerning our saluation but with instructions in writing and those open to our view requiring vs to whom these messengers are sent to haue an eye to their commission d Esay 8.20 To the Law and to the Testimony if they speake not according to this rule it is because there is no light in them It is true that from the first creation of the world for divers ages there was no written Word but as God himselfe was pleased to bee the immediate teacher of our first parents so afterwards frō time to time he raised vp preachers for his people whom in divers manners hee inspired with knowledge and enabled for this worke of instructing others in his true feare and service But when once it pleased God in his wisdome to appoint Moses that holy man to be the faithfull pen-man of his everlasting Law which he gaue for the government and direction of his Church it is required as a duty of the people of God e Iosh 1.8 That this booke of the Law depart not out of their mouthes That they meditate therein day and night To observe and doe according to all that is written therein And to restraine vs from wandring out of
sometimes affords to her zealous children if my masters of ſ Rhem annot in Lue cap. 23. v. 24. Rhemes bee not deceived Shee that teacheth vs to doe good workes wil make vs beleeue they are t The heaven'y blessednes which the Scripture calleth the reward of the iust is not give them of God gratis and freely but is due to their workes yet God hath set forth heaven to sale for our workes Andraed Orthodox expl ◠lib. 6. meritorious ex condigno and so turne our Christiā duties into glorious sins Shee that teacheth vs that Gods written Word is true will haue vs beleeue withall That it containes u Can loc l. 3. c. 3. not all the doctrine of our salvation and commaunds vs not to x Index libit proh Pij quarti Reg. 4. reade it without her leaue nor vnderstande it but according to the sence y No man may giue other exposition of the Scriptures there such as might agree with the doctrine of the Church of Rome Concil Trid Sess 4. she giues vs. So that if we marke it well shee doth no more then the enemy of mankind is observed to doe who many times for a vantage vtters truth that after he may finde the fairer passage to delude with error And if the grosse absurdities now currant in the Roman Church apart from these formes of truth were laide open to the view of all men I am perswaded in my conscience there is not so simple a Christian living at this day that makes any care of his dutie to God but would abhorre them But herein my masters of Rome declare themselues ingenious in their craft who wel foreseeing that this coine cannot passe for currant in the light vent it ever in the darke so that of many thousands that receiue it scarse any one doth vnderstand it in particular and if any Lay-person more curious then others come by chance to know it yet admitting the principles which he must learne withal it is no more possible for him to judge of it thē for any man in the darke to discerne of colors for as the eye of the body is not vseful at al but in the light no more is our vnderstanding enabled to distinguish betweene truth and errour in the doctrine of christianity but in the glorious light of the holy Scriptures The ignorance of these is assigned by Christ our Saviour z Mat. 22.29 to be a reason of error and we are taught by the Prophet David That the a Psal 119. vers 130. enterance of Gods word giueth light that it giueth vnderstanding to the simple With him the blessed Apostle accords b Tim. 3.15 and tels vs that the holy Scriptures are able to make vs wise vnto salvation This wisedome my masters of Rome approue not in the Laytie they like best that scholler that soonest learnes and contents himselfe with the c Recorded and commended by Staphylus Hosius and others Colliars Creede To beleeue in grosse as doth their Church without being able to render a reason of any article of the religion hee professeth It is gravely delivered by the Rhemists in their annotations vpon Saint Lukes Gospell d Rhem annot on Luk 12.11 That if a Catholike man being called before the commission answere that he is a Catholike man and that he will liue and die in that faith which the Catholike Church teacheth and that this Church can giue them a reason of al the things which they demand of him hee answeres enough and defends himselfe sufficiently Now the better to prepare the Laytie to this sufficiencie they permit them not to reade the Scriptures but with licence and never but with this caution to admit no other sence of what they reade in them but such as these my masters vnder the name of the Catholike Church shall recommend vnto them By which wily sleight they deprive them of al vse of their judgement in the matter of their salvation and of the Scriptures both at once and in place thereof leave them furnished only to maintain the doctrine they haue embraced with the pretended name and authoritie of the Catholike Church For instance in this giue me leave deare Mother without your offence to appeale to your selfe if it were demanded of you by what warrant you hold it lawfull to pray to Saints to worship Images to pray for foules departed and the like your answere I presume would be that herein you follow the doctrine of the Catholike Church which being ever directed by the holy Ghost cannot deceive vs. I must confesse the authority of the Catholike Church rightly vnderstood ought much to moue vs consisting in a generall sence of all that cōpany which in all ages places of the world haue joyned in profession of al the principles of the true religion But if to chalenge to our selues the name of the Church were of it selfe enough without question it would follow that God should haue as many Churches as there haue bin heresies in the world For never haue there been any authors of those impieties but haue endeavoured to giue them countenance vnder the shadow name of the Catholike Church I wil not enter here into any discussion of the doctrine mainetained at this day in the Roman Church which were but to weede in a field of tares the absurdity of it is made visible to the world by the learned labours of many reverent and worthy Pastors of our Church I will only in this place declare in what sence my masters of Rome vnderstand the Catholike Church with the sound whereof they continually fill your eares as being the maine supporters of al they teach you And first this principle is worthy to be noted well which we learne from the most eminent writer of the Papacie at this day e Bellarm de effect sacram lab 2. cap. 25. That the truth of all ancient Councels and of all points of faith dependeth vpon the authoritie of the present Church where if we desire to know what he meanes by the Church the Cardinals interpreter plainely tels vs f Gretser defens Bellarm com 1. pag. 1450. B. That when they affirme the Church to be iudge of al controversies of faith by the Church they vnderstand the Bishop of Rome who for the time governes the shippe of the militant Church and by liuely voice doth clearely and expressely expound his iudgement to them that seeke to him To this purpose another great Rabbin amongst them delivereth plainely g Gregor de Valent. in Tho. 22. tom 3. Disput 1. punct 7. q 5. That the Apostolike Church is therefore faid to be infallible because he is over it who by himselfe hath infallible authority And if wee would knowe who that He is that hath this infallible authoritie we may learne from the Jesuite Swares h Suares in 3. Thom. tom 1. disput 44. sect 1. pag. 677. That it is the Pope whose determinatiō he affirmes to be the
maine supporter of all religion at this day in the Church of Rome is not so ancient by many ages in the world as is the Alcoran of that accursed Mahomet If the foundation be proved new what rule can they propose to secure your conscience for the antiquity of the building their coÌ„tinued Priesthood their daily sacrifice their satisfactions for sinne their workes of merit their reall change in the Sacrament their adoration of it their mangled communion their worship of Images their prayers to Saints their Auricular Confession their Purgatory fire with all that trumperie besides which they tender vnder the name and disguised habite of Church traditions Certainly all these are terrae filij If they seeke to the Scriptures for their originall they will be sent packing with we know you not Possibly it may be demanded what I thinke of our forefathers who liued in the latter ages of the world while these mists of Popery lay thicke vpon the face of the visible Church in these Westerne parts Were they damned all God forbid that any man should be so savage to write or think so I verily beleeve and haue beene alwaies taught so that as well the Church of England as other of forraine parts when the tyranny and corruptions of the Papacie did most oppresse them were neverthelesse portions of Gods vniversall Church and sent many soules to God For even in these when they were most obscured with errour and ignorance yet all essentiall points of Christian doctrine were to bee learned touching the invocation and worshippe of God touching our redemption by Christ Iesus crucified touching our observation of Gods commandements so the rest so that concerning out forefathers this may suffice that as wee are bound in Christian charitie to hope the best of their salvation that before vs embraced the faith of Christ though possibly divers of them might approue in grosse some errors of the time wherein they liued never apprehending in particular the scope meaning of them so yet is it no way safe for vs to make our forefathers our rule of faith In the Church coÌ„sisting of the Iewes before Christs comming into the world the holy Prophets of God were so farre from making their forefathers a rule to follow as that to the contrary we shal finde nothing more familiar with them then to warne the people of God That they walke not in the ordinances of their fathers t Psal 78.8 Not to be as their forefathers a faithlesse stabborne generation a generation that set not their heart aright c. and to like purpose in sundry places But for resolution of this point it is our part to follow the direction of Saint Cyprian that holy Martyr of the Church u Lib. 2. Epist 3. If Christ onely bee to bee heard not to listen what any man before vs hath thought fit to be done but what Christ hath done who is before all for that wee are not to follow the custome of men but the truth of God My masters of Rome if there be no remedy will assent to this position of Saint Cyprian marry then you must giue them leaue to begge and assume this truth of God to bee the proper inheritance of the Bishop and Church of Rome but if you shall deale so vnfriendly with them as to presse them to shew their evidence they wil trouble you with much discourse but in the end for your satisfaction this answere must content you or none at all dixit Ecclesia themselues will tell you so The Pastors of the prosent Church of England will likewise make claime of this truth of God to rest with them but herein they wil deale more ingeniously with you then the other they will desire you to beleeue them no farther in this point then by plaine demonstration out of Gods holy word they shall be able to make good their claime In this confusion and difference betweene our teachers pretending of either side to haue the Church and truth of God and yet impossible but that in so direct a contrarietie as resteth betweene them of one side they must needs abuse vs possibly deare Mother you will aske what meanes are left for vs that are but learners in the schoole of Christ to discerne betweene them To censure their doctrine by their liues and actions were an vncertaine way a reason whereof wee learne from Saint Chrysostome an ancieÌ„t Father of the Church x Homil. 49. in Matt. oper imperf Because whatsoever kinde of holines the servants of God haue in truth the servants of Satan may have in likenes for the divell hath his that be meeke and humble that be chast and giue almes that fast and doe every good deed which God hath appointed for the salvation of mankinde and these formes of godlines hath the Divell brought in to seduce vs that a confusion being made betweene good and counterfeit simple men which know not the difference betweene goodnes indeed and goodnes in shew while they seeke the good servants of God might light vpon the Divels seducements Of this mind are likewise the learned of the Church of Rome y Part. 6. pag. â—9 You know saith Master Harding in his confutation of Bishop Iewels Apologie it is no good argument to reason from manners to the doctrine who would not hisse and trample you out of the schooles if you make this argument The Papists liues be faultie Ergo their teaching is false I know that howsoever my master of Rome like not as you see to haue their doctrine measured by the line of their liues and actions yet themselues will offer crooked measure in this kind there is nothing more familiar with them in their publike writings or private discourse with their schollers that admire them then to traduce and vilifie the Pastors of the Church of England of whom certainly many there haue beene and are of excellent merit and example in the Church and no doubt but some in so great a number may be found scandalous in their places who can expect no other but a feareful judgement in the end But if this were an argument wee need not seeke for proofe from any adverse to the Church of Rome but from their own records as for instance in one I pray you deare Mother note what Aventine a learned historian of their owne discloseth z Annal. lib. 6. in initio The Pope setteth over the flocke of Christ goates wolues lustfull persons adulterers ravishers of Virgins and Nunnes cookes muleters thieues bankers vsurers drones game hunters lecherous perfidious periured ignorant asses He committeth the sheep to wolues and hypocrites which only provide for their own bellies Nay hee setteth boyes and wantons to rule the lambes I am ashamed to say what manner of Bishops we have with the revenews of the poore they feede their hounds horses whoores they quaffe they loue the fly learning as infection c. thus farre the Historian But my masters of Rome will