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A90063 Irenicum; or, An essay towards a brotherly peace & union, between those of the congregational and presbyterian way; shewing out of the most learned and renowned divines of the congregational way, that their positions concerning 1. Church matters and members. 2. Church constitution and form. 3. Church state. 4. Church officers and ordination. 5. Church government and censures. 6. Church combinations and synods. 7. Communion with and separation from churches. are sufficient for the establishing a firme and lasting peace between them and the Presbyterians ... In pursuance of the good design begun at the Savoy, where it was agreed, and declared, that such reforming churches as consist of persons sound in the faith, and of conversation becoming the Gospel, ought not to refuse the communion of each other ... Drawn up and published by Discipulus de Tempore Junior. Newcomen, Matthew, 1610?-1669.; D. T. 1659 (1659) Wing N910; Thomason E978_1; ESTC R202985 58,516 89

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but_o say_v he_o tell_v i_o 1_o tim._n 5.20_o now_o this_o be_v sad_a when_o a_o man_n can_v bear_v reproof_n of_o other_o nor_o bear_v reproof_n of_o elder_n but_o turn_v again_o and_o will_v be_v judge_n in_o his_o own_o case_n though_o never_o so_o gross_a a_o sign_n of_o a_o extreme_a froward_a high_a spirit_n mr._n shepherd_n pag._n 108._o 7._o they_o be_v to_o feed_v in_o power_n as_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v every_o one_o in_o their_o place_n hence_o when_o man_n despise_v their_o food_n and_o they_o be_v poor_a thing_n they_o speak_v and_o they_o can_v see_v no_o matter_n in_o they_o and_o that_o after_o study_n prayer_n and_o tear_n and_o so_o cast_v it_o by_o that_o be_v to_o cast_v off_o the_o lord_n when_o man_n grow_v glut_v and_o full_a that_o they_o eat_v not_o a_o bit_n these_o thing_n call_v for_o chain_n mr._n shepherd_n pag._n 109._o quest_n 25._o but_o why_o be_v you_o thus_o large_a in_o set_v out_o the_o work_n and_o power_n of_o the_o 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to_o be_v exercise_v within_o itself_o and_o consequent_o be_v independent_a from_o any_o other_o church_n or_o synod_n in_o the_o use_n of_o it_o yet_o it_o be_v lawful_a yea_o it_o be_v a_o useful_a safe_a and_o wholesome_a and_o holy_a ordinance_n of_o christ_n and_o in_o some_o case_n necessary_a for_o such_o particular_a church_n to_o join_v together_o in_o holy_a covenant_n or_o communion_n and_o consotiation_n so_o i_o think_v it_o be_v intend_v by_o the_o author_n though_o the_o print_a copy_n say_v consolation_n among_o themselves_o to_o administer_v all_o their_o church_n affair_n which_o be_v of_o weighty_a and_o difficult_a and_o common_a concernment_n not_o without_o common_a consultation_n and_o consent_n of_o other_o church_n about_o they_o mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n preface_n a._n 3._o mr._n cotton_n of_o the_o key_n pag._n 54._o line_n 27._o quest_n 2._o why_o do_v some_o say_v this_o consotiation_n of_o church_n be_v useful_a answ_n the_o consotiation_n of_o church_n be_v not_o only_o lawful_a but_o useful_a serve_v not_o alone_a to_o search_v out_o the_o truth_n but_o to_o settle_v the_o heart_n of_o all_o that_o be_v sincere_o mind_v in_o a_o right_a apprehension_n of_o the_o same_o hooker_n mr._n hooker_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_v 4._o pag._n 1._o line_n 2._o when_o many_o and_o those_o select_a and_o eminent_a lay_v the_o best_a of_o their_o ability_n together_o improve_v their_o part_n and_o prayer_n disquisition_n consultation_n determination_n to_o promote_v the_o knowledge_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o thing_n of_o christ_n the_o establishment_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o faith_n and_o their_o eternal_a peace_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_v 4._o pag._n 2._o line_n 2._o quest_n 3._o why_o do_v you_o say_v it_o be_v safe_a answ_n it_o be_v safe_a for_o in_o the_o multitude_n of_o councillor_n there_o be_v safety_n as_o in_o civil_a so_o in_o church_n affair_n prov._n 11.14_o mr._n cotton_v keys_n pag._n 55._o line_n 4._o cotton_n mr._n cotton_n the_o light_n of_o nature_n and_o right_a reason_n force_v man_n out_o of_o their_o own_o necessity_n and_o experience_n to_o confess_v this_o that_o in_o multitude_n of_o counsellor_n there_o be_v safety_n et_fw-la plus_fw-la vident_fw-la oculi_fw-la quam_fw-la oculus_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o issue_n of_o the_o council_n evidence_v as_o much_o act._n 16.4_o 5._o they_o deliver_v the_o decree_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o church_n be_v establish_v in_o faith_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_v 4._o pag._n 2._o line_n 9_o quest_n 4._o but_o if_o the_o church_n be_v of_o a_o good_a and_o strong_a constitution_n and_o walk_v with_o a_o right_a foot_n in_o the_o truth_n and_o peace_n of_o the_o gospel_n what_o need_v of_o such_o consotiation_n answ_n though_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a church_n may_v be_v of_o a_o good_a and_o strong_a constitution_n and_o walk_v with_o a_o
yet_o we_o do_v not_o do_v it_o in_o their_o way_n 7._o a_o combination_n of_o church_n or_o a_o classical_a church_n be_v a_o pure_a gospel_n church_n according_a to_o the_o most_o perfect_a platform_n it_o be_v the_o new_a jerusalem_fw-la that_o come_v down_o from_o heaven_n rev._n 21.16_o see_v answ_o to_o quest_n 7._o therefore_o they_o be_v much_o mistake_v that_o say_v it_o be_v a_o antichristian_a platform_n 8._o class_n and_o synod_n provincial_a and_o national_a be_v lawful_a and_o warrantable_a see_v answ_o to_o quest_n 9_o therefore_o they_o exceed_o prevaricate_v who_o go_v about_o to_o render_v they_o either_o ridiculous_a as_o some_o or_o odious_a as_o other_o 9_o a_o synod_n be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n necessary_a though_o not_o to_o the_o be_v yet_o to_o the_o well-being_n of_o church_n see_v answ_o to_o quest_n 10._o therefore_o it_o be_v as_o necessary_a as_o the_o rest_n of_o discipline_n which_o be_v necessary_a only_o for_o the_o well-being_n of_o church_n not_o to_o their_o be_v and_o second_o therefore_o it_o be_v no_o more_o improper_a to_o have_v combination_n or_o synod_n fix_v and_o state_v than_o it_o be_v to_o have_v other_o meeting_n for_o discipline_n so_o fix_v 10._o delegation_n to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o synod_n be_v a_o lawful_a gospel-employment_n see_v answ_o to_o quest_n 11._o 11._o all_o the_o church_n of_o a_o nation_n may_v meet_v together_o to_o consult_v and_o to_o renew_v their_o covenant_n for_o reformation_n if_o the_o covenant_n constitute_v the_o church_n quere_z whither_o they_o be_v not_o now_o a_o national_a church_n see_v answ_o to_o quest_n 12._o 12._o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o hezekiahs_n day_n and_o in_o josiahs_n day_n be_v a_o precedent_n for_o national_a synod_n and_o council_n see_v answ_o to_o quest_n 12._o 13._o synod_n be_v useful_a and_o have_v power_n in_o case_n of_o difficulty_n and_o in_o such_o case_n particular_a church_n be_v bind_v to_o make_v use_n of_o they_o see_v 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17._o if_o i_o understand_v this_o aright_o our_o brethren_n say_v as_o much_o as_o can_v be_v desire_v if_o not_o more_o o_o that_o any_o thing_n near_o this_o have_v be_v practise_v 19_o it_o be_v not_o easy_o to_o be_v grant_v that_o synod_n err_v and_o particular_a person_n and_o church_n that_o be_v contrary-minded_n have_v the_o truth_n see_v answ_o to_o quest_n 7._o 20._o appeal_n be_v warrantable_a by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n and_o necessary_a in_o all_o society_n because_o of_o the_o ignorance_n or_o iniquity_n of_o they_o that_o be_v judge_n see_v answ_o to_o quest_n 20._o therefore_o great_a be_v either_o their_o ignorance_n or_o their_o iniquity_n who_o deny_v the_o member_n of_o their_o society_n this_o just_a and_o necessary_a liberty_n of_o appeal_n chap._n vii_o of_o communion_n with_o and_o separation_n from_o the_o true_a church_n question_v 1_o whither_o there_o be_v a_o universal_a visible_a church_n discipline_n platform_n of_o 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not_o yet_o convince_v though_o perhaps_o himself_o be_v nor_o admonish_v from_o these_o or_o like_a reason_n to_o withdraw_v from_o public_a communion_n in_o word_n or_o seal_n or_o censure_n be_v unlawful_a and_o sinful_a platform_n of_o discipline_n cap._n 13._o sect_n 5._o quest_n 6._o but_o what_o if_o there_o be_v many_o wicked_a and_o scandalous_a person_n and_o the_o church_n tolerate_v they_o in_o it_o ought_v not_o the_o godly_a to_o withdraw_v and_o depart_v from_o such_o a_o church_n answ_n 1._o to_o separate_v from_o a_o church_n for_o want_n of_o some_o ordinance_n or_o to_o separate_v from_o the_o true_a worship_n of_o god_n discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n because_o of_o the_o sin_n of_o some_o worshipper_n be_v unlawful_a mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n preface_n a._n 3._o 2._o the_o suffering_n of_o profane_a and_o scandalous_a liver_n to_o continue_v in_o the_o church_n and_o partake_v in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v doubtless_o a_o great_a sin_n yet_o 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