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A42758 An assertion of the government of the Church of Scotland in the points of ruling-elders and of the authority of presbyteries and synods with a postscript in answer to a treatise lately published against presbyteriall government. Gillespie, George, 1613-1648. 1641 (1641) Wing G745; ESTC R16325 120,649 275

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〈…〉_z i●_n be_v certain_a that_o christian_n meet_v together_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d house_n by_o house_n domatius_fw-la act._n 2.46_o both_o these_o consideration_n viz._n the_o multitude_n of_o christian_n in_o one_o city_n and_o their_o assemble_v together_o for_o worship_n in_o private_a house_n have_v also_o place_n in_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n 1._o let_v eusebius_n speak_v for_o they_o both_o who_o can_v describe_v say_v he_o those_o innumerable_a heap_n &_o flock_a multitude_n throughout_o all_o city_n and_o famous_a assembly_n frequent_v the_o place_n dedicate_v to_o prayer_n thereafter_o he_o proceed_v to_o show_v how_o in_o aftertime_n by_o the_o favour_n of_o emperor_n christian_n have_v throughout_o all_o city_n ample_a church_n build_v for_o they_o they_o not_o be_v content_v with_o the_o old_a or●toria_n which_o be_v but_o private_a house_n now_o these_o two_o the_o multitude_n of_o christian_n and_o the_o want_n of_o temple_n shall_v abundant_o 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great_a city_n wherein_o the_o apostle_n do_v erect_v christian_a church_n arise_v from_o these_o ground_n 1._o the_o multiplicity_n of_o christian_n 2._o the_o want_n of_o temple_n of_o which_o two_o i_o have_v already_o speak_v 3._o the_o daily_a increase_n of_o the_o church_n to_o a_o great_a number_n act_v 16.5.4_o there_o be_v need_n of_o preacher_n not_o only_o for_o those_o who_o be_v already_o convert_v in_o the_o city_n but_o also_o for_o labour_v to_o win_v the_o unbeliever_n who_o be_v therein_o these_o reason_n may_v make_v we_o conclude_v that_o there_o be_v as_o many_o pastor_n in_o one_o city_n as_o there_o be_v sacred_a meeting_n therein_o and_o some_o more_o also_o for_o the_o respect_n foresay_a and_o what_o will_v you_o say_v if_o we_o find_v example_n of_o this_o plurality_n of_o pastor_n in_o scripture_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o pastor_n
of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n it_o i●_n say_v that_o paul_n kneel_v down_o and_o pray_v with_o they_o all_o and_o they_o all_o weep_v sore_o act_v 20.36.37_o compare_v with_o verse_n 28._o here_o be_v some_o good_a number_n import_v to_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n that_o be_v to_o the_o pastor_n thereof_o collective_o take_v christ_n say_v the_o devil_n shall_v cast_v some_o of_o you_o into_o prison_n revel_v 2.10_o which_o if_o not_o only_o yet_o principal_o be_v speak_v to_o the_o pastor_n though_o for_o the_o benefit_n of_o that_o whole_a church_n this_o be_v more_o plain_a of_o the_o church_n of_o thyatira_n verse_n 24._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d unto_o you_o i_o say_v &_o to_o the_o rest_n in_o thyatira_n as_o if_o he_o will_v say_v say_v pareus_n tibi_fw-la ●spicopo_fw-la cum_fw-la collegis_fw-la &_o reliquo_fw-la coetui_fw-la dico_fw-la paul_n write_v to_o the_o bishop_n at_o philippi_n phil._n 1.1_o and_o notwithstanding_o that_o there_o be_v already_o a_o certain_a number_n of_o bishop_n or_o pastor_n in_o that_o city_n yet_o the_o apostle_n think_v it_o necessary_a to_o send_v unto_o they_o epaphroditus_n also_o phil._n 2.25_o be_v short_o thereafter_o to_o send_v unto_o they_o timotheus_n verse_n 19_o yea_o to_o come_v himself_o verse_n 24._o so_o that_o there_o be_v no_o scarcity_n of_o labourer_n in_o that_o harvest_n epaphras_n and_o archippus_n be_v pastor_n to_o the_o church_n at_o colosse_n and_o who_o beside_o we_o can_v tell_v but_o paul_n send_v unto_o they_o also_o tychicus_n and_o onesimu●_n col._n 4.7.9_o now_o touch_v the_o three_o proposition_n no_o man_n who_o understand_v will_v imagine_v that_o the_o multitude_n of_o christian_n within_o one_o of_o those_o great_a city_n be_v divide_v into_o as_o many_o parish_n as_o there_o be_v meet_v place_n for_o worship_n it_o be_v a_o point_n of_o controversy_n who_o do_v begin_v the_o division_n of_o parish_n but_o whosoever_o it_o be_v whether_o evaristus_n or_o 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for_o example_n it_o may_v fall_v forth_o that_o a_o congregation_n can_v meet_v together_o into_o one_o but_o into_o divers_a place_n and_o this_o may_v continue_v so_o for_o some_o year_n together_o either_o by_o reason_n of_o persecution_n or_o by_o mean_n of_o the_o plague_n or_o because_o they_o have_v not_o such_o a_o large_a parish-church_n as_o may_v contain_v they_o all_o so_o that_o a_o part_n of_o they_o must_v meet_v in_o some_o other_o place_n but_o a_o multitude_n can_v be_v one_o church_n unless_o they_o communicate_v in_o the_o same_o church_n government_n and_o under_o the_o same_o governor_n by_o one_o church_n i_o mean_v one_o ecclesiastical_a republic_n even_o as_o the_o like_a union_n under_o civil_a government_n and_o governor_n make_v one_o corporation_n when_o the_o apostle_n speak_v to_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n 20.28_o he_o exhort_v they_o all_o to_o take_v heed_n to_o all_o the_o flock_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d over_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v make_v they_o overseer_n so_o that_o the_o whole_a be_v govern_v by_o the_o common_a counsel_n and_o advice_n of_o the_o elder_n as_o hierome_n speak_v for_o the_o same_o reason_n we_o say_v not_o the_o church_n but_o the_o church_n of_o amsterdam_n because_o all_o the_o pastor_n and_o elder_n have_v the_o charge_n and_o government_n of_o the_o whole_a from_o all_o which_o have_v be_v say_v i_o infer_v this_o corollary_n that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n the_o presbytery_n which_o be_v the_o ordinary_a court_n of_o jurisdiction_n which_o do_v ordain_v depose_v excommunicate_a etc._n etc._n do_v consist_v of_o so_o many_o pastor_n and_o elder_n as_o can_v with_o conveniency_n meet_v ordinary_o together_o which_o be_v a_o pattern_n and_o warrant_n for_o our_o classical_a presbytery_n i_o confess_v there_o may_v be_v in_o some_o town_n no_o great_a number_n of_o christian_n than_o do_v meet_v together_o in_o one_o place_n notwithstanding_o whereof_o the_o pastor_n or_o pastor_n and_o elder_n of_o that_o congregation_n might_n and_o do_v manage_v the_o government_n of_o the_o same_o and_o exercise_v jurisdiction_n therein_o i_o confess_v also_o that_o in_o those_o city_n wherein_o there_o be_v a_o great_a number_n of_o christian_n than_o can_v meet_v together_o into_o one_o place_n for_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n the_o presbytery_n do_v consist_v of_o the_o pastor_n and_o elder_n within_o such_o a_o city_n for_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o there_o be_v at_o that_o time_n any_o christian_a congregation_n in_o landward_o village_n the_o persecution_n force_v christian_n to_o choose_v the_o shelter_n of_o city_n for_o which_o reason_n many_o be_v of_o opinion_n that_o the_o infidel_n in_o those_o day_n be_v call_v pagani_n because_o they_o alone_o dwell_v in_o pagis_fw-la and_o if_o there_o have_v be_v any_o such_o adjacent_a to_o city_n we_o must_v think_v the_o same_o shall_v have_v be_v subject_a to_o the_o common_a 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canon_n or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o respect_n of_o heresy_n schism_n obstinacy_n contempt_n and_o scandal_n vindex_n not_o by_o any_o external_a coactive_a power_n which_o be_v peculiar_a to_o the_o magistrate_n but_o by_o spiritual_a censure_n the_o dogmaticke_a power_n of_o a_o synod_n be_v not_o a_o power_n to_o make_v new_a article_n of_o faith_n nor_o new_a duty_n and_o part_n of_o divine_a worship_n but_o a_o power_n to_o apply_v and_o interpret_v those_o article_n of_o faith_n and_o duty_n of_o worship_n which_o god_n have_v set_v before_o we_o in_o his_o write_a word_n and_o to_o declare_v the_o same_o to_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o emergent_a heresy_n and_o error_n to_o this_o purpose_n it_o be_v that_o the_o apostle_n call_v the_o church_n the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n 3.15_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o may_v be_v expound_v either_o in_o sensu_fw-la forensi_fw-la the_o church_n be_v the_o public_a witness_n notifier_n and_o keeper_n of_o truth_n even_o as_o in_o court_n and_o place_n of_o judgement_n there_o be_v pillar_n to_o which_o the_o edict_n of_o magistrate_n be_v affix_v that_o people_n may_v have_v notice_n thereof_o or_o in_o sensu_fw-la architectonico_fw-la as_o the_o church_n by_o her_o faith_n be_v build_v upon_o christ_n or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o upon_o the_o doctrine_n and_o truth_n of_o christ_n contain_v in_o the_o write_n of_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n and_o lean_v thereto_o so_o by_o her_o ministry_n she_o uphold_v under-propeth_a and_o conserve_v this_o same_o truth_n lest_o as_o the_o prophet_n speak_v truth_n fall_v in_o the_o street_n &_o perish_v among_o man_n truth_n stand_v fast_o in_o the_o church_n and_o be_v keep_v firm_a while_o it_o be_v profess_v preach_v propugned_a and_o maintain_v against_o all_o contrary_a error_n and_o heresy_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n say_v the_o apostle_n that_o unto_o the_o jewish_a church_n be_v commit_v the_o 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18.17_o tell_v the_o church_n where_o he_o will_v make_v it_o appear_v that_o by_o the_o church_n be_v not_o mean_v the_o senate_n of_o elder_n exclude_v the_o people_n 8._o yea_o he_o say_v that_o in_o this_o circumstance_n now_o in_o consideration_n it_o come_v near_o the_o truth_n to_o expound_v the_o church_n to_o be_v the_o bishop_n since_o neither_o bishop_n nor_o their_o court-keeper_n do_v exclude_v the_o people_n from_o their_o consistory_n sure_o i_o be_o in_o scotland_n let_v other_o speak_v for_o themselves_o the_o bishop_n in_o their_o visitation_n high_a commission_n privie-conference_n at_o synod●_n in_o which_o they_o pass_v their_o decree_n do_v exclude_v both_o the_o people_n and_o the_o most_o part_n of_o the_o minister_n he_o think_v it_o a_o course_n unheard_a of_o either_o among_o jew_n gentile_n or_o christian_n before_o this_o last_o age_n that_o public_a judgement_n shall_v be_v private_o exercise_v and_o without_o the_o people_n privity_n this_o if_o at_o 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may_v do_v these_o thing_n apart_o from_o the_o multitude_n it_o be_v too_o much_o for_o he_o to_o affirm_v either_o that_o the_o synagogue_n be_v place_n of_o civil_a convention_n and_o judgement_n 9_o or_o that_o nothing_o be_v in_o the_o synagogue_n decree_v without_o the_o people_n privity_n while_o as_o he_o have_v give_v no_o proof_n nor_o evidence_n at_o all_o for_o it_o you_o need_v not_o my_o master_n be_v so_o curious_a in_o the_o notation_n of_o the_o name_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o every_o smatterer_n in_o divinity_n know_v but_o what_o of_o it_o you_o say_v the_o elder_n as_o such_o be_v call_v to_o wit_n to_o their_o office_n of_o eldership_n but_o call_v out_o they_o be_v not_o be_v themselves_o to_o call_v out_o the_o church_n it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d note_v not_o only_o a_o call_n or_o a_o gather_n together_o by_o virtue_n of_o verb_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o also_o a_o separation_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o particle_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o i_o hope_v it_o be_v no_o paradox_n to_o say_v that_o the_o elder_n be_v both_o call_v or_o gather_v together_o unto_o the_o eldership_n and_o call_v out_o or_o separate_v from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n to_o that_o office_n and_o it_o be_v as_o far_o from_o a_o paradox_n to_o say_v that_o they_o who_o be_v call_v out_o can_v call_v out_o other_o especial_o the_o one_o call_v out_o be_v to_o a_o office_n and_o the_o other_o call_v out_o be_v from_o nature_n to_o grace_n he_o can_v think_v that_o the_o name_n ecclesia_fw-la church_n have_v be_v use_v by_o any_o greek_a author_n before_o the_o apostle_n time_n or_o in_o their_o day_n or_o in_o the_o age_n after_o they_o for_o the_o assembly_n of_o sole_a governor_n in_o the_o act_n of_o their_o government_n i_o shall_v first_o give_v instance_n against_o he_o in_o the_o verb_n because_o he_o say_v the_o elder_n as_o such_o can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v call_v out_o the_o septuagint_n read_v deu._n 31.28_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d gather_v unto_o i_o all_o the_o elder_n the_o like_v you_o may_v find_v 1_o king_n 8.1_o 1_o chron._n 28.1_o i_o shall_v next_o put_v he_o in_o mind_n that_o the_o septuagint_n sometime_o turn_v kahal_n by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o prov._n 26.26_o his_o wickedness_n shall_v be_v show_v before_o the_o whole_a congregation_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o the_o name_n of_o the_o congregation_n or_o church_n be_v give_v to_o the_o elder_n for_o that_o which_o be_v say_v of_o the_o elder_n deut._n 19.12_o jos._n 20.4_o be_v say_v of_o the_o congregation_n num._n 35.24_o jos._n 20.6_o so_o exod_a 12.3_o compare_v with_o verse_n 21._o this_o if_o he_o will_v not_o take_v well_o from_o we_o with_o verse_n 21._o this_o if_o he_o will_v not_o take_v well_o from_o we_o let_v he_o take_v it_o from_o a_o anti-presbyterian_a who_o observe_v from_o 1_o chron._n 13.1_o 2_o 4._o and_o 2._o chron._n 1.3_o that_o both_o kahal_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v for_o the_o elder_n and_o governor_n guide_v unto_o zion_n pag._n 5._o the_o place_n deut._n 23.1_o 2_o 3._o be_v well_o worthy_a of_o observation_n it_o be_v ordain_v that_o he_o who_o be_v wound_v in_o the_o stone_n or_o have_v his_o privy_a member_n cut_v off_o or_o be_v a_o bastard_n or_o a_o ammonite_n or_o a_o moabite_n shall_v not_o enter_v into_o the_o congregation_n the_o of_o lord_n to_o the_o ten_o generation_n the_o word_n be_v kahal_n in_o the_o hebrew_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o version_n of_o the_o 70._o yet_o junius_n piscator_fw-la and_o pelicanus_n on_o that_o place_n and_o martyr_n on_o jud._n 11.1_o hold_v that_o by_o the_o church_n or_o congregation_n in_o that_o place_n be_v mean_v consessus_fw-la
that_o the_o consistorian_n course_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostolic_a church_n because_o the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 5._o write_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o corinth_n to_o excommunicate_v the_o incestuous_a man_n and_o that_o by_o these_o word_n when_o you_o be_v c●me_o together_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v 12._o he_o prove_v by_o three_o reason_n the_o strength_n of_o they_o all_o we_o shall_v take_v together_o in_o one_o argument_n thus_o they_o among_o who_o the_o fornicatour_n be_v who_o be_v puff_v up_o when_o they_o shall_v have_v sorrow_v and_o out_o of_o the_o midst_n of_o who_o he_o be_v to_o be_v put_v who_o have_v do_v that_o thing_n to_o who_o it_o appertain_v to_o purge_v out_o the_o old_a leven_fw-mi and_o to_o who_o the_o apostle_n write_v not_o to_o be_v commingle_v with_o fornicator_n or_o covetous_a person_n they_o be_v to_o be_v gather_v together_o into_o one_o and_o to_o judge_v and_o excommunicate_v that_o incestuous_a person_n but_o they_o among_o who_o the_o fornicator_n be_v etc._n etc._n be_v not_o the_o elder_n alone_o but_o the_o whole_a church_n ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o now_o what_o shall_v this_o disputer_n say_v if_o i_o cleave_v this_o his_o strong_a argument_n with_o a_o wedge_n of_o his_o own_o timber_n thus_o etc._n etc._n if_o they_o among_o who_o the_o fornicator_n be_v who_o be_v puff_v up_o when_o they_o shall_v have_v sorrow_v and_o out_o of_o the_o midst_n of_o who_o etc._n etc._n be_v to_o judge_v and_o excommunicate_v that_o incestuous_a person_n than_o woman_n be_v to_o judge_v and_o excommunicate_v he_o and_o not_o man_n only_o but_o the_o latter_a be_v absurd_a therefore_o so_o be_v the_o former_a my_o proposition_n he_o must_v either_o grant_v or_o else_o say_v that_o the_o incestuous_a man_n be_v not_o to_o be_v put_v out_o of_o the_o midst_n of_o woman_n and_o that_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o forbid_v woman_n to_o be_v commingle_v with_o fornicator_n my_o assumption_n be_v his_o own_o pag._n 24._o where_o he_o tell_v we_o from_o 1_o cor._n 14.34_o 35._o 1_o tim._n 2.12_o that_o woman_n be_v debar_v from_o liberty_n or_o right_n of_o vote_v in_o public_a ecclesiastical_a matter_n then_o let_v he_o see_v to_o the_o conclusion_n another_o proof_n of_o the_o same_o point_n he_o add_v from_o 2_o cor._n 2._o 1●_n where_o he_o write_v to_o these_o same_o corinthian_n to_o receive_v pardon_n and_o comfort_v the_o penitent_a which_o i_o may_v repel_v in_o the_o same_o manner_n but_o there_o be_v a_o word_n in_o that_o same_o chapter_n which_o may_v clear_v the_o thing_n vers._n 6._o sufficient_a to_o such_o a_o man_n be_v this_o punishment_n or_o censure_n which_o be_v inflict_v of_o m●ny_n which_o many_o if_o as_o he_o say_v in_o the_o next_o page_n the_o apostle_n have_v oppose_v to_o himself_o alone_o and_o not_o to_o all_o than_o he_o say_v but_o the_o half_a of_o that_o which_o he_o mean_v to_o say_v he_o will_v have_v the_o corinthian_n to_o think_v it_o enough_o that_o the_o man_n have_v be_v public_o censure_v by_o so_o many_o as_o be_v in_o their_o presbytery_n now_o if_o he_o have_v be_v censure_v by_o the_o whole_a church_n it_o have_v be_v more_o fit_a and_o emphatical_a to_o have_v say_v censure_v by_o all_o but_o there_o be_v another_o sense_n which_o well_o fit_v the_o place_n locum_fw-la heinsius_n observe_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v one_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d another_o thing_n the_o former_a note_v those_o that_o exceed_v in_o number_n the_o latter_a those_o that_o be_v chief_a in_o dignity_n and_o that_o therefore_o the_o apostle_n when_o he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d mean_v the_o ruler_n and_o elder_n of_o that_o church_n so_o that_o the_o read_n shall_v be_v this_o sufficient_a to_o such_o a_o man_n be_v this_o censure_n inflict_v of_o the_o chie●e_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n pi●●rtor_n take_v the_o word_n which_o also_o he_o do_v illustrate_v from_o mat._n 12.41.42_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o great_a than_o jonah_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o great_a than_o solomon_n to_o conclude_v this_o case_n the_o apostle_n as_o in_o other_o epistle_n so_o in_o this_o do_v sometime_o point_n at_o common_a duty_n belong_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n sometime_o at_o the_o duty_n of_o officer_n that_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o corinth_n shall_v have_v sorrow_v for_o the_o incestuous_a man_n and_o that_o it_o be_v a_o common_a duty_n to_o they_o not_o to_o be_v commingle_v with_o fornicator_n 5.11_o and_o to_o have_v no_o fellowship_n with_o the_o unfruitful_a work_n of_o darkness_n but_o rather_o to_o reprove_v they_o in_o like_a manner_n it_o concern_v they_o all_o to_o comfort_v he_o be_v penitent_a but_o as_o for_o the_o judge_a and_o excommunicate_v of_o he_o that_o do_v belong_v only_o to_o the_o presbytery_n of_o corinth_n and_o so_o calvin_n piscator_fw-la paraeus_n and_o many_o other_o expound_v the_o apostle_n word_n his_o digression_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n alone_o 13.14_o do_v not_o give_v forth_o sentence_n judiciary_n upon_o the_o offender_n be_v not_o against_o we_o but_o against_o the_o prelatical_a party_n therefore_o i_o pass_v it_o what_o he_o allege_v from_o act._n 1._o 15.16.17.19_o &_o 6._o &_o 14._o for_o the_o churche●_n right_a of_o suffrage_n in_o the_o election_n of_o officer_n we_o do_v most_o hearty_o assent_v unto_o it_o with_o this_o distinction_n that_o when_o the_o case_n be_v such_o as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o example_n allege_v that_o be_v when_o visible_a political_a church_n be_v to_o be_v erect_v not_o have_v be_v before_o than_o the_o right_n of_o suffrage_n in_o election_n do_v indeed_o belong_v to_o the_o whole_a body_n and_o though_o this_o way_n of_o election_n be_v ordinary_a it_o can_v prove_v that_o the_o people_n have_v the_o power_n of_o that_o authority_n in_o they_o to_o which_o they_o elect_v the_o officer_n no_o more_o than_o the_o elector_n of_o the_o emperor_n have_v in_o they_o power_n of_o the_o imperial_a dignity_n say_v baynes_n but_o now_o it_o be_v not_o ordinary_a for_o when_o there_o be_v already_o a_o settle_a ecclesiastical_a republic_n or_o a_o church_n with_o officer_n the_o officer_n for_o the_o time_n be_v aught_o by_o their_o suffrage_n to_o elect_v the_o officer_n that_o be_v want_v with_o the_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n 17.18_o somewhat_o he_o demur_v upon_o act._n 15._o for_o the_o vindication_n of_o which_o place_n i_o refer_v my_o reader_n to_o the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o former_a treatise_n chap._n 1._o &_o 8._o neither_o shall_v i_o stay_v to_o examine_v by_o what_o method_n either_o this_o discourse_n or_o the_o other_o about_o election_n fall_v into_o the_o proof_n of_o his_o proposition_n concern_v that_o part_n of_o the_o elder_n office_n which_o stand_v in_o the_o censure_v of_o offender_n 21._o he_o fall_v at_o last_o into_o his_o own_o channel_n conclude_v it_o to_o be_v a_o thing_n most_o equal_a that_o the_o whole_a church_n shall_v clear_o and_o undoubted_o take_v knowledge_n of_o the_o contumacy_n of_o the_o person_n that_o be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v &_o of_o the_o crime_n for_o which_o and_o this_o we_o also_o say_v with_o he_o one_o word_n i_o desire_v to_o have_v clear_v before_o we_o proceed_v 20._o one_o of_o his_o ground_n in_o his_o discourse_n about_o election_n be_v that_o the_o church_n officer_n as_o they_o be_v the_o servant_n of_o christ_n jesus_n so_o also_o her_o servant_n for_o jesus_n sake_n 1._o 2._o cor._n 4.5_o the_o professor_n of_o leyden_n say_v well_o that_o they_o be_v not_o proper_o the_o servant_n of_o the_o church_n but_o of_o god_n and_o of_o christ_n they_o be_v not_o lord_n of_o the_o church_n neither_o but_o ruler_n guide_n bishop_n and_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o not_o servant_n of_o the_o church_n except_v objective_n that_o be_v the_o servant_n of_o god_n in_o the_o church_n or_o for_o 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